HomeMy WebLinkAbout9 8 15 Minutes
Minutes
Tuesday,
September
8,
2015
6
PM
Robert
Gilliam
Municipal
Complex,
City
Hall
Second
Floor
South
Conference
Room
150
Dexter
Ct.,
Elgin,
IL
60120
A. Call
to
order
(chairperson)
B. Roll
Call
(staff
liaison)
Chairwoman
Knoerr
and
Commissioners
Aageson,
Frazier,
Hernandez,
Jacobs,
Keare,
Masterson,
and
Segel
present.
C. Approval
of
previous
meeting’s
minutes
August
2015
minutes
were
approved.
D. Communications
1. Welcome
recently
appointed
Commissioner
Amber
Keare.
E. Discussion
Items
1. Presentation,
“New
Stormwater
Management
Technologies
and
Funding
Sources”
Bryan
Miko,
Engineer
with
Advanced
Drainage
Systems,
Inc.,
will
present
on
new
ideas
and
technologies
being
utilized
across
the
country
for
dealing
with
the
increased
stormwater
demands
on
municipalities.
Both
engineering
practices
and
funding
mechanisms
will
be
the
central
focus
of
the
presentation.
Additionally,
a
short
segment
on
how
green
infrastructure
does
not
always
have
to
be
the
color
green
will
be
included.
Bryan
Miko
introduced
himself
and
his
company,
Advanced
Drainage
Systems,
Inc.
He’s
a
regional
engineer
that
works
a
lot
with
municipalities.
Bryan
is
a
new
resident
to
Elgin
and
he
wants
to
gauge
where
the
city
of
Elgin
is
at
with
water
projects,
and
what
they
may
be
looking
to
do
regarding
sustainability.
ADS,
Inc.
is
the
largest
recycler
of
HDPE.
He
described
stream
health
and
that
the
desired
impervious
cover
is
10%.
When
you
reach
above
10%,
there
are
negative
effects
for
the
entire
ecosystem.
They
help
provide
technologies
to
mimic
the
water
flow
and
water
volume
of
areas
prior
to
construction.
Their
strategy
is
to
attack
the
problem
at
its
source,
and
help
provide
funding
for
infrastructure
upgrades.
We
could
implement
a
green
infrastructure
incentive
program
based
upon
that.
Native
soils
don’t
tend
to
let
a
lot
of
infiltration
in.
ADS,
Inc.
are
experts
in
underground
detention/retention
systems,
and
there
are
a
variety
of
surface
and
subsurface
infiltration
systems.
He
explained
that
subsurface
infiltration
systems
have
superior
performance
in
cold
weather,
with
less
variability
than
surface
systems.
He
also
discussed
rainwater
harvesting,
like
rain
barrels
and
gray
water
applications,
which
are
use
both
above-‐ground
and
below-‐ground
storage
tanks.
Commissioner
Masterson
asked
what
he
would
recommend
for
repairing
watersheds
with
such
bad
erosion.
Bryan
explained
that
even
with
ordinances
in
place,
you
need
infrastructure
to
help.
There
are
several
factors
that
affect
each
creek/stream.
Commissioner
Frazier
said
that
while
the
city’s
efforts
are
minimal,
more
of
the
responsibility
falls
on
the
property
owners.
She
suggested
have
been
more
reactive
at
this
point,
when
we
communicate
our
ordinances,
so
we
that
are
making
more
of
an
effort
to
educate
people.
Commissioner
Hernandez
asked
since
he
moved
here
a
year
ago,
if
he
had
noticed
anything
in
particular
that
needs
work.
Commissioner
Frazier
said
he
should
definitely
sit
down
with
Kyla
to
talk
about
ways
to
help
the
Swan
and
eastern
Elgin
neighborhoods.
Liaison
agreed
to
send
Byran
Kyla
Jacobson’s
contact
information.
Bryan
described
FlexStorm,
a
product
collects
all
sediment
from
construction
runoff.
It
sits
under
the
grate
and
it
has
a
bypass
that
allows
water
to
flow
over
the
sides
with
high
flows,
but
sediment
in
first
flush
is
still
caught
in
the
fabric.
This
may
be
a
technology
the
city
of
Elgin
would
be
interested
in.
2. Solar
Ordinance
Discussion
on
permits
applied
for
and
issued
since
the
adoption
of
the
solar
ordinance,
and
how
we
can
help
market
this
option
to
residents.
Liaison
introduced
the
discussion
item
and
filled
in
commission
on
current
ordiance
standings.
The
city
of
Elgin
has
currently
only
had
one
application
for
solar,
and
given
a
permit
to
that
company.
Commissioner
Jacobs
brought
this
discussion
item
to
the
agenda
as
he
finds
the
current
ordinance
to
be
extremely
cumbersome,
costly,
and
overall
difficult
for
a
homeowner
to
both
obtain
the
permit
and
install
the
solar
panels.
In
his
experience,
he
had
to
hire
an
engineer
to
verify
a
brand
new
roof
was
in
place
could
handle
the
weight
of
a
solar
panel
on
the
roof.
This
seems
to
be
counter-‐productive,
as
the
city
does
not
require
a
permit
to
get
a
new
roof,
which
is
much
heavier
in
comparison.
He
suggests
we
need
to
adopt
a
more
resident-‐friendly
system,
and
he
believes
it
needs
to
be
fundamentally
changed.
There
was
no
advertising
to
community
groups,
in
monthly
newsletters,
etc.
to
educate
residents
on
the
ordinance.
He
suggests
that
how
would
one
cope
with
trying
to
put
solar
panels
on
their
building
as
well
as
rebates
and
tax
incentives
need
to
be
understood.
The
state
of
Illinois
has
stopped
grants
for
2015,
and
future
grants
will
depend
upon
how
the
state
budget
pans
out.
Federal
income
tax
gives
30%
credit
on
the
cost,
but
that
expires
at
the
end
of
2016.
Commissioner
Frazier
asked
how
Commissioner
Jacobs
would
like
the
ordinance
to
read
and
suggested
we
get
all
the
key
players
involved
in
a
discussion.
Commissioner
Jacobs
suggested
it
should
look
similar
to
other
nearby
city’s
solar
ordinances,
like
Aurora,
Schaumberg,
and
Naperville.
Commissioner
Aageson
commented
that
Aurora
teams
up
with
the
EPA,
where
they
put
the
city
on
their
website
and
help
promote
city
efforts.
Their
ordinances
are
less
restrictive.
The
City
of
Chicago
has
“solar
express,”
where
you
submit
an
application
and
receive
a
response
within
24
hours.
Commissioner
Frazier
asked
if
we
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
submit
another
amendment.
Commissioner
Masterson
suggested
we
do
our
homework
and
find
regional
municipalities
to
compare
their
ordinances
to
ours.
Chair
Knoerr
suggested
we
also
talk
to
installation
companies
to
see
what
issues
they
run
into
with
solar
legislation.
Commissioner
Keare
suggested
we
ask
the
communities
themselves
what
the
benefits
are,
what
they
are
getting
from
the
solar
ordinance,
success
rate,
how
many
people
are
doing
using
solar,
etc.
Commissioner
Jacobs
said
the
Illinois
Power
Association
could
help
advise,
and
maybe
we
should
ask
them
to
review
our
ordinance.
Commissioner
Masterson
agreed
to
look
into
solar
in
Oak
Park,
Evanston,
and
Rockford.
Commisioner
Jacobs
and
Chair
Knoerr
agreed
to
research
the
City
of
Chicago,
while
Commissioner
Aageson
looks
at
Aurora
and
Commissioner
Frazier
at
Naperville.
Commisioner
Keare
will
contact
Illinois
Power
Association
and
inquire
if
they
have
a
list
of
registered
contractors,
requirements,
etc.
Most
cities
have
it
set
up
their
ordinance
that
if
you
have
a
licensed
electrical
contractor,
that’s
all
you
need.
Commissioner
Aageson
suggested
we
also
ask
people
what
they
did
to
market
it
and
let
people
know
they
have
the
option
to
use
solar.
It
seems
most
of
the
issues
faced
with
our
ordinance
have
to
do
with
safety,
that
being
the
weight
of
the
solar
panels.
Commissioner
Jacobs
had
panels
that
were
5x5
feet,
each
weighing
4
pounds.
If
you
have
a
tree
blocking
solar
panel
area
(Item
8,
page
6),
you
are
required
to
have
a
tree
survey
to
see
what
trees
will
be
removed.
The
ordinance
also
says
utility
companies
must
be
notified.
The
main
topics
of
research
and
improvement
to
the
City
of
Elgin’s
current
ordinance
include
response
time,
utility
companies,
tree
issues,
solar
panel
weight
&
available
hookups,
marketing
of
opportunity,
number
permits
of
permits
issued,
and
whether
or
not
they
allow
leased
solar
panels.
Commissioner
Keare
asked
if
we
should
survey
residents
to
see
how
they
feel
about
solar
and
their
related
interest
levels.
There
was
a
suggestion
made
that
Commissioners
send
Liaison
ideas
for
questions
to
ask
other
localities
about
their
solar
power
ordinances.
Liaison
was
to
incorporate
all
suggestions
into
a
data
base/spreadsheet,
which
would
be
used
by
each
Commissioner
when
gathering
information
from
other
cities.
Commissioner
Masterson
motioned
for
everyone
to
do
his
or
her
research
and
we
would
discuss
the
item
further
at
our
October
meeting.
The
motion
was
passed.
3. 2016
Sustainability
Commission
Budget
Review
Review
proposed
budget
for
the
Sustainability
Commission
funds
Liaison
provided
a
breakdown
of
the
commission’s
2016
budget
into
4
categories
(Friends
of
the
Fox,
Mighty
Acorns,
Event
Sponsorship,
Education
&
Outreach).
The
commission
has
a
budget
of
$24,000
for
the
2016
year,
with
agreements
to
pay
$5000
to
Friends
of
the
Fox
and
roughly
$4000
to
the
Conservation
Foundation
for
Mighty
Acorns
programming
at
Hillcrest
Elementary.
The
commission
passed
the
budget
with
seven
in
favor,
and
one
abstention
(Commissioner
Segel).
Chair
Knoerr
suggested
we
need
a
project
that
people
can
see,
feel,
touch,
etc.
and
we
need
to
focus
on
that
project.
Chair
Knoerr
has
looked
into
projects
done
in
the
name
of
sustainability
and
transit
is
one
idea.
She
thinks
we
need
to
focus
on
a
big
community
project,
and
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
grants
for
funding,
than
relying
on
our
budget
that
can
be
spent
otherwise.
F. Old
Business
1. Plastic
Bag
Ordinance
Continued
discussion
on
the
research
and
possibility
of
developing
a
plastic
bag
ordinance
for
the
city
of
Elgin.
Commissioner
Masterson
discussed
his
research
and
that
many
things
suggested
engaging
with
big
retail
stores
and
entice
them
to
give
away
bags,
or
sell
that
at
a
very
reasonable
cost.
He
thinks
this
would
be
a
better
alternative
than
the
thick
plastic
option,
like
Chicago
is
using.
Commissioner
Keare
said
having
a
incentive,
like
5
cents
off
for
each
bag
you
don’t
use
is
an
option.
She
went
somewhere
and
they
let
her
put
her
name
in
a
raffle
for
bringing
her
own
bag,
and
liked
that
idea
as
well.
Commissioner
Jacobs
had
contacted
the
Meijer
environmental
compliance
and
sustainability
contact,
and
Meijer
is
not
currently
affected
by
a
plastic
bag
ordinance,
but
he’d
be
willing
to
work
with
us
on
a
local
policy.
Commissioner
Masterson
said,
“why
not
go
back
to
paper
bags?”
Commissioner
Aageson,
who
works
for
Aldi
Corporate,
said
either
big
box
stores
need
to
come
around
to
the
idea
or
we
will
need
to
impose
an
ordinance.
She
suggested
it
could
be
beneficial
to
have
on
a
survey
to
the
public
as
well.
Money
talks,
and
maybe
we
approach
companies
with
the
Aldi
business
model
of
efficiency
to
show
them
how
much
money
both
they
and
customers
could
save,
and
the
environment
would
win
too.
She
also
said
Ireland
enacted
such
an
ordinance
and
their
plastic
bag
use
went
down
94%.
It’s
working
in
other
places,
it
could
work
here.
Commissioner
Keare
suggested
it’s
like
smoking
in
restaurants,
there’s
an
uproar
at
first,
but
over
time,
it’s
embraced
and
becomes
the
norm.
Commissioner
Jacobs
suggested
we
work
with
Waste
Management
to
help
with
the
effort,
as
they
could
also
provide
insight
and
statistics.
Commissioner
Jacobs
said
that
he
would
contact
Waste
Management
to
learn
about
the
problems
associated
with
plastic
bags
in
the
garbage.
Chair
Knoerr
motioned
to
keep
this
item
on
Old
Business
for
next
meeting,
and
that
the
group
continue
to
research
this
topic
and
have
conversations.
The
motion
was
approved.
2. Partners
for
Places
grant
proposal
Continued
discussion
on
project
idea,
requirements,
and
timeline.
Chair
Knoerr
made
a
motion
to
table
this
item
until
next
meeting.
The
motion
was
approved.
3. Freedom
Field
trip
Discuss
marketing
plan
for
September
26
visit
to
Freedom
Field.
Liaison
will
post
and
boost
post
for
trip
on
City
of
Elgin
social
media
pages.
Commissioner
Masterson
made
a
motion
for
the
commission
to
pay
up
$150
for
promotion
of
the
event.
The
motion
was
approved.
G. Commissioner
comments/announcements
Liaison
stated
there
was
still
no
driver
arranged
for
the
Freedom
Field
trip,
but
she
would
update
on
the
status
via
email
as
soon
as
available.
H. Adjourn
A
motion
to
adjourn
was
passed.
The
City
of
Elgin
is
subject
to
the
requirements
of
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
(ADA)
of
1990.
Individuals
with
disabilities
who
plan
to
attend
this
meeting
and
who
require
certain
accommodations
in
order
to
allow
them
to
observe
and/or
participate
in
this
meeting,
or
who
have
questions
regarding
the
accessibility
of
the
meeting
or
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coordinator,
at
(847)
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(847)
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promptly
to
allow
the
City
of
Elgin
to
make
reasonable
accommodations
for
those
persons.