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Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Meeting Minutes
April 11, 2017
6:00 p.m .
McKinley Elementary Grade School
Multi-Purpose Room
258 Lovell Street, Elgin, IL 60120
Mayor
David J. Kaptain
City Council
Richard Dunne
Terry Gavin
Rosamaria Martinez
Ti sh S. Powell
John Prigge
Carol Rauschenberger
Toby Shaw
F. John Steffen
City Manager
Richard G. Kozal
Present: Tom Armstrong, Chin Keomuongchanh, Marino Lamantia, Eric Larson, Carl Missele,
Fred Moulton
Absent: Andrew Dogan, Michelle Santucci
Staff: Randy Reopelle, Maria Cumpata, Wayne Carlstedt, Verdelle Corn
I. Call to Order: Eric Larson called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m.
II. St . Francis Park: Dan Dalziel, 3D Design Studio facilitated the discussion with the
residents in attendance to gather their input on what they like about St . Francis Park ,
what they do not like, and what they would like to see added at the park.
Tennis Courts and Pickle all courts:
• Resident #1 who identified himself as Larry DeHaan, uses the tennis courts. The
courts are deteriorated. Kids ride bicycles on the courts, which the surface. He has
seen courts that have a turn-style entrance, which would require the kids to lift their
bicycles over the turn style when entering and exiting. The courts would be used
more often if the courts were in better condition. Mrs. DeHaan , resident #2, noted
that the courts at Lords Park and other parks are heavily used as the courts are in
better shape . St. Francis courts would be used more if they were in good shape. Mr.
DeHaan noted that St. Francis Park is a great location for children to get on the
courts .
• Res ident #3 noted that children learn to ride bicycles on the tennis courts .
• Resident #4 noted that her children learned to be play tennis at St. Francis Park .
• NOTE: A couple residents present voiced concern with pickle ball striping on the
tennis courts, even when a different color, as the court(s) become 'busy' while
playing either sport.
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Playground.
• Resident #5, Joe, an elementary student from the neighborhood, doesn 't l i ke the
sand .
Mr. Dalziel asked if anyone had a preference on the style or type of playground . There
are themed playgrounds available . Nature themed playgrounds are very popular.
Nature themed p laygrounds have options such as water, mud, and logs, and other
options, all which allow child ren to orchestrate their own environment. Children can
move things around that enable cognitive play.
• Resident #5 , Joe, would like a spinner added to the park.
• Resident #6, a young female student, would like swings .
• Resident #4 noted that a pl ayground structure for older children is needed . The
structure at the park currently is for younger children only.
Mr. Dalziel noted playground structures come in different sizes ; there are structures for
2 to 5 year olds, and structures for 5 to 12 year olds.
Sand Volleyball:
Mr. Dal ziel inquired if the sand volleyball court was used. The consensus was that no
one has used them for quite some time. Years ago , teenagers used them .
• Resident #5, Joe , recommended the volleyball area be replaced with a soccer
court/area . He also noted that he and his friends like to play baseball at the park.
• Resident #3 agrees with Joe's comments.
Outdoor Fitness Element:
Mr. Dalziel noted that outdoor fitness elements are very popular and asked for
feedback . No one responded.
Picnic Shelter:
Mr. Dalziel asked for comments regarding the picnic shelter.
• Res ident #5, Joe, would like to see a medium-size shelter replace the existing one.
• Resident #7 noted that the summer free lunch program, which St. Francis Park is one
of the sites for, needs a larger shelter than the current one . She recommended that
a shelter be ab le to fit at least four picnic tables .
Mr. Dalziel asked for the residents input on the style of the gazebo. He pointed out t he
styles most commonly used and displayed on a presentation board . Several present
said they do not want the rectangle and style found in forest preserves. Several
presented voiced that the second design shown of a simple square with aluminum poles
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and roof was not to their liking. Those voicing their preference noted they preferred the
more architecturally pleas ing gazebo style, which is a better historical and charming
match for the neighborhood. The gazebo should also have power.
Miscellaneous:
Mr. Dalziel asked if any other things should be looked into for the park such as bags, bocce
ball, etc .
• Resident #1 , Larry DeHaan, noted that tennis and pickle ball are both great and
would be nice to have a place to grill and eat while kids play and parents socialize.
• Resident #3 noted that it would be nice to have bathrooms at the park.
Mr. Dalziel ask if a nice enclosure with port-o-lets would be okay. (No audible response .)
Randy Reopelle communicated that neighborhood parks do not have toilets. By adding
toilets, it opens the neighborhood park up to more usage and more people from outside
the neighborhood, which is what the regional parks (Lords and Wing) are for.
• Board member Tom Armstrong noted that open space is ideal. Years ago the ring of
trees were added to the park to keep adults from playing soccer until late. Resident
#3 also noted the berms were added for the same reason.
Mr. Dalziel asked if anyone had any other important input.
• Resident #3 communicated that a water/drinking fountain would be beneficial for
the children playing at the park.
• Resident #8, Bill Briska , requested that small signage be added to mark the history of
St. Joseph Hospital, which originally occupied the property. The hospital started out
as a small facility/house on the main floor with people living on upper level. Then
the hospital expanded in later years with a more modern brick structure
considerably larger. St. Joseph and Sherman Hospitals stimulated the medical
community -doctors and other medical professionals moving to the area and
doctors' offices opening in the area . The hospital had a role in developing the
character of the neighborhood .
• Resident #3 requested a walking path, wider than the path that meanders through
the park currently.
• Board member Tom Armstrong noted that the sidewalks around the perimeter of
the park are brand new and 5 feet wide. The interior paths are narrower at 4 feet
wide and are not new.
• Resident #5, Joe , requested more shade and trees.
Summary of Recommendations/Resident Input:
recommendations provided:
Mr. Dalziel summarized the
• Fix tennis courts. If the courts were in better shape they would be used more often
and would be a great programming opportunity, teaching children and adults tennis.
Add a turn sty le and pickle ball lines on one court.
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• Keep the family atmosphere.
• Add a drinking fountain with a bottle filler.
• Playground: no sand , add a spinner, belt swing(s), dual swing with buckets as well.
• Bigger kids playground and younger kids playground
• Replace volleyball area with soccer area.
• Baseball field is good to keep. Enlarge the backstop .
• Charming shelter with architectural character that can accommodate at least four
picnic tables .
• Gri lle
• Shade trees (if space for them)
• Historical interpretive signage is a great opportunity for learning and recall the
history of the entire park.
• Wider pathway through the park.
• Tom Armstrong added that it would be nice if the baseball backstop, which needs to
be larger than it cur rently is, match the tenn is courts.
Mr. Dalziel thanked everyone for their participation and valuable input.
Next Steps: Randy Reopelle communicated that Dan Dalziel will return with concept
plans to present at the April 25 th beginning at 6:00 p .m . meeting. The meeting will be at
The Centre of Elgin , 100 Symphony Way . Meeting room to be determined . Chair Eric
Larson asked that those present be sure to sign add their name, phone number and
preferably an email address to the sign-in sheet so staff can email them notifying them of
future meeting(s) regarding St . Franc is Park .
Ill . Gifford Park Association (GPA) Request: GPA submitted a request for the board to
consider waiving of the Pavilion rental fees for their organization's Lords Park Pavilion
rental on Friday, April 28, to host their annual pot luck dinner. GPA members host and
man a water station for the participants of the annual Fox Trot.
MOTION: Tom Armstrong motioned the board approve the waiver of fees for GPA 's April
28th Pavi lion rental. Eric Larson seconded. Motion unanimously approved .
IV. Adjournment:
MOTION: Tom Armstrong motioned to adjourn the meeting. Carl Missele seconded.
Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 6 :55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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