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Home My WebLink About1998 NSC Minutes LONI MECUM CITY CLERK Minutes M Neighborhood Services CommitL.... December 15, 1998 10 : 00 a.m. Members Present Jim Burns Tom Migatz Jim Quinn Joe Evers Mike Millikan Tom Shergold Herb Klunk Ray Moller Bob Smith Curt Kramer Clay Pearson Eric Stuckey Jan Ward Minutes The November 17 , 1998 minutes were approved as written. III A. General survey of existing signage The Police Department conducted a survey for a re-evaluation of existing parking signage covered under 11 . 60 . 070 to determine usefulness of signage . The survey resulted with only signage removal on Crystal Street between Lawrence and Mill being suggested by residents . City Council has addressed this item and already voted to remove the "No parking" signs at this location. ACTION: Jim Burns will contact Rob Hartman who has been working with the Near West side residents with regard to the Crystal and South Street intersection, parking on Crystal, and parking on railroad property on the east side of Crystal . The Police Department will check cars parking on the railroad property. This item will be returned to the committee . Survey shows that residents at all other locations desire to leave the signage except of 200 thru 400 south on Ryerson. There was much discussion about the Ryerson blocks . Time restriction signs will remain at the three parking spaces to the north near the cul- de-sac area. B. Congdon Avenue Survey Results The survey results show that all signage should remain on Congdon Avenue (allowing parking to continue as exists) . C. Hendee/Harding Survey Results The neighbors are in favor of no overnight parking (2am - 6am) with towing. A resident brings cars and lets them remain on the street for a period of time . ACTION: Committee members agreed to do a 90-day temporary No parking from 2am to 6am with a tow zone . Herb Klunk will furnish Tom Migatz a map of the Hendee/Harding area surveyed for the posting of signs . NSC Minutes December 15, 1998 Page 3 Officer Jim Genz are scheduled to meet with the principal on December 17 to discuss crossing guards and this issue will be added to their agenda for discussion. Add on Item #1 Request for crossing guard at Channing School at Laurel and Channing and Streets, Prairie and Channing, Fulton and Channing, DuPage and Channing, and East Chicago and Channing ACTION: Bob Smith and Officer Jim Genz will meet with Channing School principal this week to discuss crossing guard request . Followup Item # 1 Truck Traffic from Central Blacktop Road to Bowes A number of complaints were received from Fox Bluff employees and nearby residents regarding heavy truck traffic on Central Blacktop Road. Most complaints were received during construction of the Home Depot site . ACTION: The truck traffic cannot legally be denied access to using these roads and City staff contacted Lake County and asked that trucks discontinue using Central Blacktop Road and Bowes Road because due to complaints . Lake County cooperated and re-routed traffic and Bowes Road is closed off with gates . Follow up Item #2 Downtown survey for no parking in the Central Business District from 4am to 6am Responses are being returned with most voting to support the 4am-6am no parking. Votes will be tallied and request formally submitted to NSC. Follow up Item #3 Wing and Aldine Streets Neighbors complained that Aldine was used as a cut through route to avoid the stop light at McLean and Wing. Clay presented the first liwo7L) Minutes Neighborhood Services Committee Tuesday, October 13 , 1998 10 : 00 a.m. Members Present: Pat Andrews Tom Migatz Jim Burns Clay Pearson Jack Darr Tom Shergold Joe Evers Bob Smith Herb Klunk Eric Stuckey Curt Kramer Guest: New employee Jan Ward, Senior Planner, Planning Dept . Minutes The September 22, 1998 minutes were approved as written. Comments Clay Pearson will author a thank you note to Donna Wendling for her invaluable assistance with the Neighborhood Services Committee . Bob Smith requested clarification of the request for Cooper & Duncan stop signs . Mr. Smith thought that Duncan & Dundee was the target . Herb Klunk reported seeing no obstructions . There is nothing significant in the 3 year accident history. Tim Migatz reported that it appears hard to see if eastbound in the southwest corner but it seems like a tree trimming issue . There is no follow up required. Clay Pearson is to write a letter of response . III. A. Request for parking restrictions on Hastings, Lavoie and Illinois Avenue and No Parking in front of Huff School Dave Lawry, Dave Osborn, Herb Klunk and Clay Pearson met with members of the PTO. This issue is being resolved. There will be no parking on the north side of Hastings between Lavoie and Illinois Avenue . Clay Pearson asked if we can coordinate all future street surfacing with school traffic; there were a couple _ of things that could have been addressed during resurfacing. ACTION: An agenda item has been drafted for the City Council Meeting of October 28 , 1998 , for no parking on north side of Hastings . B. Request for speed limit or stop signs on Hill Avenue between Summit Street and Chester Avenue Ms . Christine Frantz requested consideration of either speed limit signs or stop signs on Hill Avenue between Summit Street and Chester Avenue . Herb Klunk advised there are no speed limit signs from Summit Street north to Chester Avenue . There is no significant accident - history. Between Summit and Chester speed signage is needed. Hill between Summit and Chester is open. Hill Street is to be resurfaced next year. It would be better to sign now with one 30 mph sign posted on both sides of the street . Per Bob Smith, these signs should be placed every 3 blocks to 900 feet apart . Merely posting at both ends of the corridor won' t do the job . To address the speeding issue, Bob Smith suggests using a speed recording device other than the Mitron unit for more reliable data. ACTION: Bob Smith will survey the area and make recommendations for sign placement based on the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices. The collected data will be provided to the citizen to demonstrate actual speeds occurring in the area. C. Request for review of signage for school zones with consideration of a flashing yellow light on McLean Boulevard from Larkin to Erie Street School crossing guard at McLean/Erie requested consideration of a flashing yellow light in that area. Bob Smith advised there is an overhead sign that hangs out over the roadway but costs possibly $20K to $40K. He advised that mounting a light on a 20 mph school zone sign is passive and is not sure it would have much impact . He advised that if 50 or more students are crossing at a severe location, there is justification for a full set of traffic signals, but the cost would be approximately $115K. We need to bear in mind that the high volume of students for this school crossing area is a relatively narrow time frame - 7 : 55 - 8 : 30 a .m. , one hour at noon, and 2 : 30 p.m. to 3 : 00 p.m. State & Oak, which is only 2 lanes, has flashing lights at the top of the hill . ACTION: Bob Smith is to obtain information on the overhead sign. Also, Bob will glance at the situation at Van and McLean regarding Larkin High School students . D. Request for removal of "No Parking" signs on west side of Crystal south of Lawrence The issue with these signs is a question of enforcement with the new townhouses from Mill Street south to Ball Street . Tom Migatz _ inquired if the need for the signage been reviewed and is it an ordinance? ACTION: Tom Migatz to write a COW memo if this no parking ban is per ordinance . Herb Klunk will also double check if it is per ordinance and if not, signage will be removed. E. Request to move "No Parking Here to Corner" signs on Channing Street for additional visibility Clay Pearson asked if a 4-way stop was needed by the Channing YMCA. Per Eric Stuckey, monies are proposed for a study/demonstration of traffic calming for the entire neighborhood. Pat Andrews felt this location would be a good candidate for this study. A general discussion of traffic calming devices was held and Curt Kramer provided a handout relating to this issue. This winter we will determine the impact of traffic calming devices on Public Works regarding snow removal . ACTION: Tom Migatz, Public Works, will provide parking setbacks (here to corner) at this location. F. Crossing Guard Report for Sheridan School The recommendations of Bob Smith reference his study conducted on Sheridan School are to add crossing guards at Hill Avenue and Park Street, Hill Avenue and Franklin Street, and Hill Avenue and Ann Street, plus additional signage. Clay Pearson asked what should the school be doing. Bob Smith advised the school should get a copy of the report, and the school administration must take ownership of the situation. Bob reported that kids shouldn' t stand in the street, more teacher presence and supervision is. needed, school bus operations need controlling, and kids are still darting out in the street . Additional studies are being conducted at Creekside and Illinois Park Elementary Schools . ACTION: Clay Pearson will draft a letter to Sheridan School and will include a copy of the study. This will be directed to the school liaison whose name will be provided by Curt Kramer. Follow up Item 1 Intersection of Airlite and Country Knolls Herb Klunk advised that the Mitron Speed Monitoring Report does not indicate that a 4-way stop is warranted. ACTION: Clay Pearson to write a cover note to Councilman John Walters of the committee' s findings . Drop off zone in front of Kim' s Black Belt on Spring @ Chicago ACTION: The 3 minute drop off zone will be allowed to become permanent . Discussion of 4-way stop at intersection of Royal Boulevard- _ Valley Creek Drive-Clearwater Way Bob Smith reported his field work should be complete by 10/14 and the report should be available next week. In summary, there are signage needs, sight issues due to trees needing trimming or removal, stop signs being blown by drivers, and cars passing on the right where the crossing guard and children are . Preliminary recommendations include one additional crossing guard for Creekside at N. Airlite and Valley Creek. ACTION: Clay Pearson will draft a status letter to the PTO. Unscheduled Items Clay Pearson announced that on 10/14/98, he would be meeting with some representatives of the Engineering Department on Nautical Way at the location of the new Post Office Distribution Center being constructed at that location. The neighbors in that area - have expressed concerns . A letter from Ken Kresmery, property owner of 389 N. Crystal, was distributed with a request for the city to either vacate or sell him a portion of the unused alley at the north side of the building at 389 N. Crystal . Determination needs to be made if this is railroad easement; to be discussed at the next NSC meeting. Meeting adjourned at 12 : 00 p.m. Next meeting scheduled - Tuesday, October 27, 1998, 10 : 00 a.m. Agenda items due Monday, October 19, 1998 Respectfully submitted, Barb Pampel Recording Secretary e Minutes Neighborhood Services Committee Tuesday, September 8, 1998 10 : 00 a.m. Members Present : Herb Klunk Tom Shergold Tom Migatz Eric Stuckey Mike Millikan Bob Smith Debra Niers Minutes - September 9, 1998 Herb Klunk stated he checked back with residents in the Duncan/Dundee Avenue and they are very interested and approve the proposed plans for changes to this area. With no further comments, the remaining minutes were approved as written. III. A. Parking restrictions on Hastings, Lavoie, and Illinois Avenue A petition was received from Sharon Morach and 67 signatures to request no parking on one side of above streets during Pee Wee Football season and for consideration of no parking on year round basis . Pee Wee Football meets one morning per weekend during season and residents wish to restrict parking of vehicles in their neighborhood created by the Pee Wee spectators . ACTION: Eric Stuckey will call our Parks and Recreation Department to discuss some type of action on a short term basis to alleviate parking across driveways and in neighborhood. Eric will contact the requestor for more detailed information as to exact areas of streets and which sides of street no parking is requested. Eric will suggest to requestor that an informational flyer be distributed in the neighborhood and depending on feedback, residents will be surveyed for restricted parking. _ This item will be returned for September 22 agenda for further discussion. B. Parking restrictions on North Crystal between Highland and Chicago Streets NSC Minutes September 8, 1998 Page 3 E. No parking in front of Huff School A letter was received from Laurie Williams, Huff School PTO, requesting no parking in front of the school; crosswalks and stop lines repainted, and no parking signs . Tom Shergold suggested that a comprehensive plan for signage at school locations be followed for consistency throughout neighborhoods . NSC members suggested the school may be interested to have their own personnel direct traffic by placing cones for buses and vehicles, rather than the City posting so many signs . Sheridan school uses this plan and seems to be effective . ACTION: Tom Migatz will repaint the pavement markings, stop lines, and crosswalks . Eric Stuckey will contact the requestor to suggest using cones and further discuss traffic problems around the school . This item will be returned to the September 22 agenda for further discussion. F. Crosswalks, signs, and speed limit on South Street A letter was received from Jolene Kappes requesting speed limit signs on South Street, west of Gale and east of Randall; painted crosswalks at South and Gale and signage for presence of children. ACTION: Tom Shergold asked Herb Klunk to contact Jolene Kappes for additional information, and call U-46 Transportation for clarification of jurisdiction if in city or county. Bob Smith asked Herb to notify him the time of day students and buses are on this street as he will be in this vicinity next week. This item will be returned to the September 22 agenda for further discussion. G. Results of St.Charles/Arlington Area Parking Ban Survey A total of 26 surveys out of 90 residents (29%) were returned to the City as of September 4 , 1998 . Originally the neighbors were told this issue would be returned to the committee for further evaluation after they experienced the parking restrictions . Loni Mecum City Clerk Minutes Neighborhood Services Committee Tuesday, August 25, 1998 10 : 00 a.m. Members Present: Pat Andrews Dave Osborn Herb Klunk Clay Pearson Tom Migatz Bob Smith Deborah Nier Minutes-August 11, 1998 The minutes were approved as written. Comments Herb Klunk stated the Police Mitron trailer was located on Royal Boulevard beginning Monday, August 24 and will remain in the area all week to help slow traffic for new Creekside school students . Tom Migatz stated the remaining signage for no parking on Airlite will be completed today. Clay asked Herb to check visibility of stop signs with regard to tree trimming. III . (A) Highland Avenue-sidewalks, crosswalk light and speed limit Consuelo Hormel, 455 North Airlite, requested sidewalks along Highland Avenue from McLean to Lyle, a crosswalk light at Highland and Lyle intersection and speed limit signs on Highland from McLean Boulevard to Randall Road. NSC discussed the pedestrian usage along Highland Avenue and concluded there is a need for sidewalks along this street . At present, there is a drainage ditch on the north side of Highland and partial sidewalks and gravel shoulder on the south side . Dave Osborn suggested placing a temporary bike path along Highland until sidewalks could be installed. The bike path material envisioned would need maintenance every two weeks by the Parks Department . Impressions were that the Highland/Lyle 4-way stop intersection handles traffic flow well . If sidewalks were installed, it would accommodate pedestrians walking and crossing at intersection. Speed limit signs are posted on Highland from McLean Boulevard to Randall Road. NSC Minutes August 25, 1998 Page 3 ACTION: Clay asked Herb K1unk to survey the remaining residents for parking restrictions, then return this item to NSC. Follow up Item-July 21 agenda - No Parking/Spyglass Hill Court (College Green subdivision) Herb stated the street measures 20 feet in width and City ordinance states "No Parking" signs can be posted if street width does not exceed 20 feet . Tom Migatz suggested the homeowners association be contacted to discuss the restriction of no parking within 30 feet of a stop sign. ACTION: NSC recommended no parking on the inside of circle only at this time . Tom Migatz will provide sigage . Suggestions was to have something submitted to College Green Association with a reminder about not parking within 30 feet of a stop sign. Comprehensive Sign Study of College Green - Over the summer Isidoro Ruiz from the DCA worked with Tom Migatz to inventory all the College Green signae . Stop sign installation for controlled intersections should be installed at the following: stop Sawgrass at St . Andrews Circle; stop LaCoslo at St . Andrews; and Carnouslie at Castle Pines; and Aberdeen Ct . At Annondale Drive . ACTION: Public Works will install the stop signs at the above noted locations . Tom Migatz will prepare a memo for stop signs for the COW. Neighborhood Design and Traffic Calming Seminar, September 10-11, Madison, Wisconsin. Bob Smith, Dave Lawry and Clay Pearson will be attending this seminar. Duncan Avenue update Bob Smith submitted two alternatives- for changes to Duncan Avenue . NSC members reviewed and discussed possibilities for each exhibit and made suggestions for additional changes to Exhibit 1 . Pat Andrews suggested extending the curb to create a choker for the Dundee/Duncan left turn lane and have an "exit only" from Duncan onto Dundee Avenue . With the exit only, residents on Duncan Avenue would have two-way traffic . Minutes Neighborhood Services Committee Tuesday, August 11, 1998 10:00 a.m. Members present: Herb Klunk Clay Pearson Curt Kramer Charles Pitt Dave Lawry Jim Sheppard Tom Migatz Bob Smith Mike Millikan Eric Stuckey Debbie Nier Guest : Helga Stafford, Communications Specialist, CMO Minutes - July 25, 1998 There was one correction of the last name for Sharon Schuman, PTO representative, Creekside School . There being no other corrections, the remaining minutes were approved. III. A. Report on communications plan for Creekside School Helga Stafford presented the communications plan for announcing the opening of the Creekside School . The communications plan was also given to the Creekside School principal . Public service announcements are scheduled for WRMN/WJKL radio, Jones Intercable bulletin board, advertisement in Daily Herald, and Courier News . Flyers will be distributed by businesses in the area to help communicate that children will be walking to the new school . Temporary signs will be placed at the entrance of Valley Creek at Lyle and Highland, Royal and McLean, and at the Fire Station lawn on Royal . Helga is also coordinating communication through the U-46 District . The Police Department plans to station the Mitron trailer at various locations on Royal Boulevard and around the school to increase awareness of police presence to help slow traffic . NSC Minutes August 11, 1998 Page 3 ACTION: Clay Pearson will contact the requestor and suggest neighbors submit a petition regarding parking restrictions . Public Works will install the no parking here to corner signs and schedule a traffic count for this location. E. Four-way stop at River Bluff Road and Sherwood Avenue Daneen Bell requested a 4-way stop at this location after seeing a potential accident . NSC denied request as this intersection does not meet the warrants for a 4-way stop. There is already a 4-way stop at Duncan and River Bluff . ACTION: Clay Pearson will talk to the principal of Coleman to see if there is increased traffic volume at intersections near the school . Clay will contact the requestor regarding reasons request denied. F. Four-way stop at Ford Avenue and First Street Mr. & Mrs George S. Fischer requested a 4-way at this location to help slow traffic. NSC denied request as this intersection does not meet warrants for a 4-way stop. ACTION: Clay Pearson will contact the requestor regarding NSC decision. G. Speeding problems on Adams Street and Parking Restrictions Complaints of speeding problems on Adams continue to increase. NSC agreed this street is a candidate for traffic calming measures . ACTION: Bob Smith, traffic engineering consultant, and Dave Lawry have discussed this area previously. Bob will submit a proposal for traffic calming, along with traffic counts, and alternative solutions involving bulb outs and various other treatments to reduce speed on this street . Clay Pearson will contact the requestor to advise of the City' s plans to address problems on Adams Street . I . NSC Minutes August 11, 1998 Page 5 traffic volumes and change of traffic flow. Bob plans to submit an opinion within the next two to four weeks . 2 . No Parking-Three Way Stop at Preston and Eastview Per a request of Ken Franks for a three-way stop, traffic counts were made at this location. This area is under construction at this time and the Mitron data shows much lower counts . This area will be rescheduled for a traffic count . ACTION: Herb Klunk will contact Mr. Franks to advise that traffic counts will be done again in approximately one month after construction is completed and item will be returned to NSC. Other Discussion Eric Stuckey stated this Saturday, 10 : 00 a.m. there will be a demonstration of the traffic circle at Gifford and Division and neighborhood residents are invited. Fire Department vehicles will demonstrate maneuvering around the circle and Public Works should bring any large vehicles for demonstration. Speed for alleys - State statute already covers lowering speed limit in alleys to 15 mph. The alley leading off of Morgan Street will be posted at 15 mph by Public Works Department . Bob Smith, traffic engineer plans to work on background information for a 25 mph city wide speed limit proposal to present to Legal Department and City Council . Meeting adjourned at 11 : 30 a.m. Next Meeting - August 25, 1998, 10 : 00 a.m. 2nd Floor Conference Room Agenda Items due Monday, August 17, 1998 Respectfully submitted, . w Donna Wendling 1 Recording Secretary . , T Minutes Neighborhood Services Committee Tuesday, July 21, 1998 10 : 00 a.m. Members present: Pat Andrews Tom Migatz John Demmin Debbie Nier Charles Gruber Dave Osborn Herb Klunk Clay Pearson Dave Lawry Charlie Pitt Bob Smith Guests: Karen Carlson, Principal, Creekside Elementary School Sharon Human, PTO representative, Creek side School Paul Peterson, representative, Creek side School III Dave Lawry introduced Bob Smith, as interim traffic engineer, Pavia-Marting, who will be working with the staff offering guidance to improve traffic design, work toward traffic calming plans, and help resolve various issues for traffic improvements . The July 7 minutes were approved as written. A. Stop sign at Royal Boulevard and Valley Creek Drive Representatives from Creek side Elementary School requested a stop sign at Royal Boulevard and Valley Creek Drive because of the new school opening this fall and expressed their concerns of safety for children crossing the Royal Boulevard. They also felt a stop sign would tend to slow the traffic and make drivers more aware of children in the area. The City has installed sidewalks east along Royal Boulevard, added pavement markings, planted trees in effort to calm traffic and still allow Royal Boulevard to move a high volume of traffic as it was designed. A three-way stop is already planned for Airlite and Valley Creek intersection. Creekside principal confirmed a student patrol will be located at this intersection. NSC plans to follow the same guidelines as set for all elementary NSC MINUTES July 21, 1998 Page 3 B. Stop sign on Airlite at Country Knolls John Walters called and requested a stop sign at this location. At the present time, the traffic stops on Country Knolls at Airlite . Additional background information is needed before further consideration can be given to this request . C. Four-way stop at Salem and Jamestown Traffic should be stopped at Salem for traffic control . ACTION: Tom Migatz will prepare a memo for the COW to stop traffic at Salem. D. Reconsideration of parking restrictions on Ash/Birch/Woodview John Demmin distributed maps and stated the issue involves two different types of parking in this area: (1) No parking, tow away zone on Ash and Birch (red on map) and (2) No parking, midnight to 6 : 00 a.m. on Woodview Drive (yellow on map) . Due to a typographical error this request is presented for correction and clarification. Currently there is "No parking midnight to 6 : 00 a.m. " on Basswood Court and Hackberry Court . Last year Poplar Creek Drive was made no parking, tow away zone. These parking restrictions are consistent with parking restrictions in the area. Over 50 percent of surrounding business owners and the owner of the bowling alley are satisfied with the proposed parking restrictions . With these restrictions, Police Department can more effectively patrol for abandoned vehicles and gangs conducting business from vehicles. With the no parking on Woodview from midnight to 6 : 00 a.m. , the bowling alley and banquet facility can utilize the street for extra parking until midnight . There are three entrances to the bowling alley parking lot and the "tow away" zone would begin at the very northern entrance of the parking lot which goes into the Ash and Birch area and completely around the circle . (See map) Everything south of this entrance of the bowling alley would be "No parking, midnight to 6 : 00 a.m. " ACTION: NSC agreed to the parking restrictions as stated for Ash and Birch as "tow away zone" and "no parking from midnight to 6 : 00 a.m. for Woodview Drive for a 90 day trial period. NSC MINUTES July 21, 1998 Page 5 I. Neighborhood Watch Residents on Morgan Street Russ Einhorn, 420 Morgan, submitted a letter representing the neighborhood group with requests for lighting at 440-450 Morgan and in the alley. Mr. Einhorn also reported speeding problems in the alley between Morgan and Adams . The lighting at this location has been resolved as of this meeting. ACTION: NSC agreed speed should be reduced to 15 mph. Dave Lawry will check with Legal if ordinance exist to lower speed in alleys . J. SEEN WALK Clay Pearson prepared a listing of residences and results of the walk on July 11, 1998 . A copy of the report was distributed to all committee members . There was some discussion of the various locations that need improvements. Clay stated Southeast residents will be surveyed the end of July. K. Demonstration of traffic flow on Spring Street with consideration of parking space in front of Kim' s Academy A video was shown with traffic moving on Spring Street approaching Chicago Street "without" a vehicle parked in the requested parking stall . This video showed maximum number of cars used the curb lane with intentions to go straight at the light . Suggestions at this time : Debbie Nier suggested to make the first parking space south of the crosswalk into a loading zone. Clay Pearson supported Debbie' s suggestion. Pat Andrews suggested the recommendation be a 90 day trial period. Ray Moller attended the NSC meeting for the reconsideration of parking in front of Kim' s Academy. He reported the New Century Partnership committee is pleased with the temporary parking and hope the space will be granted on a long term basis . Another video tape will be made with a vehicle in the parking stall . 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