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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
The Elgin Heritage Commission holds its Regular Meetings on the 1st Tuesday of each month
at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, second floor,North Tower of the Elgin Municipal Building.
The Design Review Subcommittee are held on the 2nd and 4th Tuesday's of every month
at 6:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, second floor,North Tower of the Elgin Municipal Building.
First Tuesday Second Tuesday Fourth Tuesday
Heritage Commission Design Review Design Review
Regular Meeting Subcommittee Subcommittee
7:00 p.m. 6:00 p.m. 6:00 p.m.
January 5 January 12 No Meeting **
February 2 February 9 No Meeting **
March 1 March 8 March 22
April 5 April 12 April 26
No meeting * May 10 May 24
June 7 June 14 June 28
July 5 July 12 July 26
August 2 August 9 August 23
September 6*** September 13 September 27
October 4 October 11 October 25
November 1 November 8 November 22
No meeting * December 13 No meeting **
* Heritage Commission meetings will not be held in May and December; due to special events.
** Design Review Subcommittee will not meet on the 4th Tuesday in January, February or
December unless multiple agenda items are brought forth for review.
**** The September 6`h meeting maybe relocated due to potential conflict with other meeting room
schedules. Alternative location will be noted on the agenda.
Each meeting is subject to change of location. The agenda will reflect the location for the current meeting
Note: COA applications and supporting information for Design Review Subcommittee meetings need to
be submitted at least ten days prior to the meeting.
Contact Person: Christen Sundquist
Historic Preservation Planner
(847)931-6004
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,January 12, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. November 24, 2015
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 260 National Street—Painting of brick building without a Certificate of
Appropriateness; installation of awnings
2. 121 Villa Street—installation of egress windows and basement
G. Other
1. Fiberglass Windows- discussion
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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r of the Elgin Heritage Commission
January 12, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:01 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Robert Lee
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
260 National St—Exterior painting without a COA; request for awnings
161 Villa St—Egress windows; and front hand rails
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of November 24,
2015,as amended (pg. 3—Fascia board should be 1x6).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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r NEW BUSINESS:
260 National St—Exterior painting without a COA;request for awnings
The COA application has been filed as a corrective action to the following violations:
1. Painting exterior masonry without a COA.
The applicant has indicated their interest in maintaining the painted brick as the brick was in
poor condition.The applicant stated that they wanted to provide a seal coat to the brick to
prevent further deterioration.
Staff has advised the applicant that the Design Guidelines do not permit the painting of
masonry.
Staff also advised that painting brick traps moisture as the masonry walls are not allowed to
"breath" or evaporate the moisture that has penetrated into the wall. When brick walls are
painted, it can cause water/moisture to freeze (during winter) and eventually spall (the
protective fire face of the brick chips off exposing the softer brick material that is more
susceptible to water infiltration)causing more damage.
Staff assessed the site on 12/03/2015 and noticed some spalled bricks (minor) at random
locations throughout the street elevations, and several areas that had open joints. To decrease
C water infiltration, the areas that exhibit open joints should be re-tuckpointed and the spalled
brick spot replaced. Overall,the street elevations were in good condition.
The common brick wall at the east elevation was in the worst condition with spalled brick, open
joints and step cracking present.This may have been caused by water not being properly shed
away from the parapet walls (coping has several layers of tar, no flashing or drip cap) and the
elevation being previously painted in the past.Typically done in this situation is not to paint
over the brick but to remove and rebuild the top 12 courses on this elevation, install new shelf
angles (with flashing and drip caps)above the windows and door and install new coping with
drip caps and flashing at the parapet. The lower courses of the brick on this facade are in better
condition and could be retuckpointed and cleaned.
To note, although this building is listed as non-contributing,the surveyor may not have known
the age of the building and assumed it was less than 50 years old (to be classified as historic,
buildings must be 50 years or older).The building was built in 1939 as a Gasoline/Service
Station and displays many of its original characteristics in the Art Deco style.
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The applicant is also requesting to install awnings throughout the property.The proposed
location of the awnings will cover some architectural features including the square,glazed brick
inserts; and the vertical cut limestone at the restaurants main entrance at the south elevation.
' The awnings will not cover up the limestone architectural feature found at the angled
entryway.
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rElgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Masonry: Brick, Limestone Block and Cobblestone
A. should be preserved and maintained, if original
B. should be cleaned only if there are major stains or paint build-up. If the staining or
dirt is limited, it may be best to leave it alone. Do not introduce water or chemicals
into brick walls.
C. should be cleaned with detergent cleansers if the brick walls are stained. If you wish
to remove paint from brick,the use of chemical removers is appropriate.This is a job
that usually requires professionals. Information concerning the use of chemical paint
removal products can be found in Chapter XIII.
D. should be repaired carefully to match the original brickwork and mortar, using hand
tools, not electric power saws, to remove mortar, if repairs are necessary.
E. should have repointing (fixing the mortar between the bricks)that matches the
original brick and mortar regarding width, depth, color, raking profile,composition,
and texture. Repointing should never be done with Portland cement or other hard
mortars unless these mortar compounds are original to the dwelling. For most pre-
1920 dwellings, use soft mortars to match the original composition. If the original
composition cannot be determined, use a historic compound such as one part lime
and two parts sand.
F. should not be sandblasted or subjected to any kind of abrasive cleaning. Brick should
r never be cleaned with high pressure water which exceeds 300 pounds per square
inch.
G. should not be coated with silicone-based water sealants. Water sealants or water
repellents generally have the affect of keeping interior moisture from evaporating
through the walls and thereby damaging the brick.
H. should not be painted unless the brick and mortar is extremely mismatched from
earlier repairs or patching. Previously sandblasted brick or brick in poor condition
may be painted to provide a sealing coat.
I. should not be covered in stucco or other coating materials.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical
removers. A paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of
wood siding
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Awnings
A. Should fit the opening to which they are applied. Shed awnings are appropriate for
rectangular openings while arched awnings are appropriate for arched openings.
B. Should be straight sided or have shed designs. The use of bubble, concave, or convex
C forms is appropriate only on round arched openings. Internally lit awnings are not
acceptable.
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' C. Should not cover or conceal decorative transoms containing prism glass or stained
glass
D. Should not be internally it.
Staff Recommendation:
Painting
Staff cannot recommend approval of the certificate of appropriateness application as
submitted,since painting masonry does not meet the requirements of the Elgin Design
Guideline Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
Awnings
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The awning brackets shall be installed in the mortar joints and not through the brick or
limestone.
2. The awnings are placed only above windows and entrances as they would have been
installed historically at these locations.
Miguel Torres,Sr(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Original building constructed in 1939 as a gas station. Addition was added prior to 1973 when a
restaurant was established (Lazara's Pizza).
Owner stated prior to painting the building the Raymond Street (western elevation) brick face
was actually in good condition. National Street (south elevation) brick had had a few issues
with tuckpointing including various shades of mortar. The northern face of the building is all
smooth stucco. While the eastern wall was both brick and stucco material along the alley.
Along the eastern elevation,the northern half is smooth stucco and painted white. The
southern end of the eastern side has brick and stucco which is coming off the building due to
water runoff of the roof. Owner express the need want to stop the water seepage and improve
the National Street view of the eastern elevation.
Western portion of building was an addition and can clearly be distinguished by the brickwork
at the southwest corner of the structure.
Although the survey states this a noncontributing structure in the historic district,this survey
appears to have been miss stated, since the Art Deco details were not recognized in the survey.
Staff has seen occasionally over the years other survey errors.
Commission express great concern of leaving the painted brickwork(which was done without a
COA),which would set a precedence for other potential brick structures within the historic
districts.
Commissioners indicated a "breathable" clear coat should have been applied to the brick.
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rOwner would prefer to have one continuous awning along top edge of the building face.
Awning color is not dictated by the commission, however complimentary colors/tones are
suggested to bring attention to the architectural features such as the Art Deco elements.
Awnings should not to cover any architectural features. As indicated with the guidelines,the
commission would prefer the awnings to be individually over each window opening, and not
continuous along the multiple facades.
Awning anchor bolts should be removed from placement within the limestone and new awning
brackets should be anchored into mortar joints.
Motion#1 made by Committee Member Savel to approve the painting of brick as submitted by
applicant.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion failed unanimously (0-5).
Motion#2 made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as awning(continuous style)
per the rendering submitted as applicant.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion failed unanimously (0-5).
Appeal process was provided to the applicant by Christen Sundquist.
After further discussion, the owner indicated he was willing to eliminate the arched awning
over the entrance and install the awnings over the window and door openings only(not a
continuous awning along the building face); and requested to amend his COA request.
Motion#3 made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve awnings to be installed over
window and door openings only(anchor bolts to be located in mortar joints) and limestone to
be fully exposed; subject to staff's final review and approval.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
161 Villa St—Egress windows;and front hand rails
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install three
egress windows at basement at north elevation as well as install handrails at the front porch.
The applicant is proposing to construct three bedrooms in the basement that require egress.
The current basement windows at the north elevation are awning windows that do not meet
ellih the building code requirements for egress windows.The applicant noted that the new windows
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' will not increase the width of the existing windows but only the height.To note,the windows
are minimally visible from the public way.
The applicant also indicated their interest in installing handrails at the front porch. Staff advised
applicant that the metal chains are original and a significant element of the home and shall not
be removed.The applicant is requesting to install metal handrails that are painted white, as the
building is a lighter color,to not detract from the historic, architectural elements.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size,and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary
facades where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced,but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design.
Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include
but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of
soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window
may be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair
the windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of
appropriate replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match
the original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to
match the original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum
extruded windows are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash
windows, as long as their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E
glass that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that
does not contain a tint should be used.
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
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' B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
1. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
rmatch the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Windows
1. The basement window replacements must fit the width of the original basement
window openings.
Handrails
1. The existing chain stair railing shall remain.
2. That the metal handrails be painted a color that blends in with the paint scheme. If the
building will remain a lighter color,white handrails shall be installed. If the building will
be painted a darker color, black handrails shall be installed.
3. The metal handrails shall not exceed 30 inches in height.
Andy Santillanes(construction manager for MACK Estates)was present for tonight's COA
discussion:
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Currently a single family dwelling containing two(2) bedrooms. The proposed interior
modeling and installation of egress windows will allow the structure to be a five (5) bedroom
home.
Plans submitted indicate concrete window wells. Mr. Santillanes stated that galvanized square
window wells are to be installed. The width of the opening is not being increased.
Commissioners stated a preference of galvanized Y: rounded window well to be installed no
greater than 2" above grade. Mr. Santillanes was amendable to the style change.
The three (3)egress windows proposed are to be wood with aluminum clad with mutton to
appear as double hung design.
Bungelow style houses are typically smaller homes with small basement windows.
Commissioners noted an egress window was previously approved on Douglas Avenue.
Handrails are not required to be replaced at this time by building code unless the stairs are
being modified. If the existing black"chain" barriers are removed,than the railing and spindles
would require building code compliance.
Applicant indicated desire to install new handrails for the safety sake of the next occupants.
Discussion continued between commissioners,applicant and staff regarding styles of handrails
and color. Typically a light colored home would have a light color handrail to compliment the
stair case and make staircase appear to "disappear"from view. Many 1920 homes had metal
railing installed. Any handrail system installed will be seen easily from one direction or another.
Commissioners express their preference for the color of handrail to match the color of stucco;
which the applicant was agreeable to.
Motion#1 made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as egress windows as amended
by applicant(galvanized rounded design, maximum of 2" above grade).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 4-1. (Nay: Roxworthy)
Motion#2 made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as handrail replacement with
staff comments; and color to match principal color of structure.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 3-2. (Nay: Roxworthy and Savel)
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OTHER: Fiberglass window discussion
Per the committee's direction in December 2015, staff has continued research information
regarding fiberglass windows. A group in the state of Oregon stated glass area is reduced
compared to wood windows. In their case,the government entity approved fiberglass window
replacement on the rear of the building and for basement windows.
Robert Lee presented a small section (roughly 5" long)of a fiberglass rail sample for committee
to see and touch. He would like to present fiberglass windows for consideration in the near
future.
Both fiberglass windows and fiberglass clad wood windows were found recently on the
internet.
Overall the research completed by staff and various committee members had found the rails
and styles of the fiberglass windows do change the profile/exposure.
Should fiberglass material be deemed an acceptable material for windows in the historic
district,the commission could specify dimension requirements for rails and styles of any
replacement window. From a distance,the ascetics of the replacement window needs to be
similar or very close to the same profile of a wood window.
All products fail, but wood windows can be repaired.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:58 p.m.
Respect/My Iiy submitted,
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Cindy A.W en Approved:
Design Rev Subcommittee Secretary /?.
Design Review Subcommittee
meeting of 02/09/16
Has been cancelled due to no agenda items.
Please contact Christen Sundquist at 847-931 -6004
with any questions regarding the cancellation.
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
r Tuesday, February 23, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. January 12, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 418 Lowrie Ct—Window Replacement
2. 150 S. Gifford St—Reconstruction of front stairs
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G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
February 23, 2016
Proposed — Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel (6:03), and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller
Paul &Sue Kuester
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
418 Lowie Ct—Window Replacement
150 S Gifford St— Reconstruction of front stairs
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of January 12, 2016,
as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 4-0.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
NEW BUSINESS:
418 Lowie Ct—Window Replacement
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request for the replacement
windows due to issues with energy efficiency (air infiltration). The applicant proposed to install
Casco, aluminum clad wood, double-hung, 1/1 windows.
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Staff conducted a site visit on January 29, 2016. At that time, Staff assessed the window
conditions and determined that many of the windows were replaced previously with wood,
double-hung windows. In addition, several of the window profiles differ from one another. The
replacement windows are in fair condition, however, the majority of the windows have
plexiglass glazing. It was found that there are three original windows, one at the stairwell (fixed
window), and two on the second floor. The original windows are in the worst condition as the
window sashes have varying degrees of deterioration.
Staff advised the applicant that window estimates for the repair and replacement windows
should be submitted. Estimates for replacement were submitted, however, no estimate was
submitted for the repair of the windows. To maintain the overall consistency of the windows,
the applicant has requested approval to replace all of the existing windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
At this time, staff is unable to fully recommend the replacement without the applicant's
submittal of the project repair cost estimates.
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However, should the Design Review Subcommittee concur that the overall consistency of the
window profiles would be best served by the replacement of all of the windows, then staff
would recommend the following:
1. That all windows shall be 1/1 double-hung, aluminum clad wood and must fit original
window openings.
2. The window replacements must match the profile of the original windows.
3. Window glass shall not be tinted.
4. That the existing window wrapping is removed.
5. That new wrapping is not installed.
Juan & Mireida Estrada (owners)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
The basement are not proposed for replacement. There are 15 windows on the house to be
replaced, of which 3 are original windows. Original windows are located:
South elevation - upper
East elevation—stairwell (fixed window)
North elevation—double hung in bedroom
Homeowner provided a sample window from Casco Co (South Elgin, IL) for commission to see.
Commission felt the bottom rail was appropriate in height/profile (3-31/2"), however the top
rail, side styles and meeting rail were too narrow. Top rail needs to be 2-2 %", each side style 2-
2 %", and each meeting rail 1 %2".
Juan indicated he placed several calls for quotes for window repairs, but no one called him back
to arrange for estimates.
House currently has aluminum siding. If the exterior trim is taken off, it could be very difficult
to reinstall the existing trim. Should the siding be damaged, homeowners could have major
issues and possibly have to remove the aluminum and then work with (restore or replace)
whatever material is below.
Commission acknowledge they would be agreeable to replacing the 3 original windows and the
other 12 windows, however the appropriate profile/style of window would need be to be
submitted for consideration. Commission noted there are several manufacturers that make
wood clad replacement windows with appropriate rail dimensions.
Adjacent property owners (Paul &Sue Kuester) commended the homeowner for the
improvement made on the property. Replacement windows would look nice and give
uniformity to the structure, but the trim should remain. Paul also acknowledge the newly
constructed garage with wood siding looks beautiful.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion failed unanimously (0-5).
Homeowner was given two options:
1- Submit a new COA for window replacement with appropriate material/profiles
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2- Appeal DRSC decision to the Heritage Commission. Appeal process was explained to the
homeowners by Christen Sundquist.
150 S Gifford St— Reconstruction of front stairs
Note: Property owner (Jaime Garcia) withdrew the application prior to the tonight's meeting.
Mr. Garcia is communicating with the neighboring unit for possible repairs to the other shared
staircase of the building. Additionally, he wants to apply for one of the historic grants for the
project(s).
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
1- Building Code: Community Development staff is reviewing the International Building Code
for possible amendments. As information becomes available, staff with share proposal of
text amendments with committee members.
2- Grant application submittal deadline is April 1, 2016.
3- Grant information meeting to be held at the Gail Borden Library on March 7th @ 7:00pm.
Several speakers to answer questions regarding the available grants will be there including:
Christen Sundquist (grant application process), Vince Cuchetto (Code), Patricia Williams
(NHS of the Fox Valley), Scott Savel and John Wiedmeyer (commissioners).
4- Discussion of grant poster locations (where they have been placed and other proposed
sites).
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. Walden Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, March 8, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. February 23, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 170 River Bluff Rd —Installation of stoop roof over front door
G. Other
1. Representative of Casco Industries, Kevin Brown
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
March 8, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel (6:02), and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller; Bill Cogley,John &Elizabeth O'Malley(re: 170 River Bluff);Juan & Mireida Estrada
(418 Lowrie Ct);and Kevin Brown (Casco rep)
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
170 River Bluff Rd—Installation of stoop roof over front door
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of February 23, 2016,
as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously(5-0).
ITEMS TABLED:
None
NEW BUSINESS:
170 River Bluff Rd—Installation of stoop roof over front door
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install an
aluminum awning(102"wide by 60"deep by 30"high)over the front stoop.
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The applicant noted that they have been having water drain into the basement at the front
stoop area and would like to cover/protect this area so that rain and snow could be directed
away from the foundation.
The home was built in the 1940s and was built in the Colonial Revival style.The style of the
awning resembles a similar roof design found at the porch at 1013 Douglas Avenue. 1013
Douglas Avenue was built in 1951. In addition, in the 1940's,fabric awnings were gradually
replaced by aluminum ones as they were noted to be longer-lasting and lower-maintenance
than traditional, fabric awnings.
As stated in Preservation Brief 44,"Widely available for the first time, mechanical air
conditioning threatened to make the awning an unnecessary vestige of an earlier era. Awning
companies fought back with arguments that traditional shading systems could reduce the
required size and investment in air conditioning systems.Though canvas awnings continued to
be used on contemporary buildings, new types were often selected to do the Job,aluminum
and fiberglass awnings.
Widely available by the 1950s, aluminum awnings were touted as longer-lasting and lower-
maintenance than traditional awnings.Though used on small-scale commercial structures,they
were especially popular with homeowners. Aluminum awnings were made with slats called
"pans"arranged horizontally or vertically. For variety and to match the building to which they
were applied, different colored slats could be arranged to create stripes or other decorative
patterns.While aluminum awnings were usually fixed, in the 1960s several operable roller
awnings were developed, including one with the trade name Flexalum Roll-Up."
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Awnings
A. Should be designed for traditional locations such as over windows and doors or
attached to porches.
B. Should be of canvas,or similar woven material
C. Should be attached with care to prevent unnecessary damage of original details and
materials.
D. Should be of colors to compliment the dwelling.
E. Should fit the opening to which they are applied.Rectangular window and door
openings should have straight across shed type awnings, not bubble or curved forms.
Awnings over arched windows should have curved or rounded awnings to match the
openings.
F. Should only be applied when evidence suggests.
G. Should not cover or conceal significant architectural details such as window hood
molding.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted,since the material (metal-
awning)does not meet the material requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline Manual for
Landmarks and Historic Districts.
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However,given the age of the home (1940s),the increase in use of metal awnings during this
particular decade and the similarity of this awning/porch roof to 1013 Douglas Avenue, if the
awning is approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee
recommend the following:
1. That the bracket, if needed, be of the Smith design.
2. All details are to match applicant's submitted drawing and specifications.
3. That all applicable permits will be obtained prior to beginning any work.
John & Elizabeth O'Malley(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Awning color to match gutters and downspouts. Illustration indicates awning to be almost to
the side 3 pane window(right of door). Owners indicated the awning would be about the
distance from the brick façade (right of door)to the 3 pane side window.
Although the awning is not for aesthetic purposes,the owners feel it will provide curb appeal
and allow them and their guests some coverage from the inclement weather. A single bracket
would be installed on the eastern portion of the awning to provide support and decorative
element to the awning. Adjacent homes have ornate details for their porch/entry.
Additionally,the front porch is at a lower typography,which seems to pool and seep thru the
basement/foundation located along the plane of their entry. Several options have been done
to try to have the diverted away from the front porch water run away from the entry without
success(landscaping, rebuilding of stoop).
Commissioners discussed the metal awning proposed versus canvas awning. Canvas material
was deemed to non-appropriate for the building. As proposed,the awning style would be
appropriate with the age of the house.
Although an awning may assist with water from falling directly along the building face,the
water seepage may require the basement wall to have a sealant applied.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as submitted with the following
amendment: bracket to be pinned into the mortar joint.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously(6-0).
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Item 1-REPLACEMENT WINDOW FOR DISCUSSION:
Casco Industries Inc.-Kevin Brown (windows representative)
Their company offer both new and replacement windows. A sample window was brought for
display. Currently working with homeowners of 418 Lowrie Court for replacement windows
(reference 02/23/16 DRSC meeting). Casco provides windows and measuring services too.
Drawings were provided of two styles of Casco windows: 1) double hung replacement kit and
2)aluminum clad tilt latch.
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Committee members noticed profile differences between the two window styles.
Committee members noted that several tilt pac/compression jamb replacement kits of similar
products have been approved from other suppliers(Marvin, Pella,Crestline,etc)that meet the
minimum window details: top rail 2-2'/s",tide style 2-2 3/.",meeting rail 11/:" and Bottom rail 3-
3 W.
Staff stated that should the exterior trim/siding of 418 Lowrie Ct be removed,then the owners
would be required to meet the design guidelines for restoration.
Recommendation for window representative to bring in both styles of windows (full size)for
side by side comparison. Committee wants to work with local window business, but the profile
must be appropriate for historic structures.
Mr. Brown indicated he would return with full size window units at meeting scheduled for April
12,2016.
Item 2—BUILDING CODES:
Ms.Sundquist stated building codes were being reviewedby the legal department for possible
updates of the Elgin Municipal Code by city council. Status updates will be provided by staff to
committee members of the impending amendments.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Save!.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Respectf submitte•
Cindy A. W. d n Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary March 22, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, March 22, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 8, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 418 Lowrie Ct—Replacement Windows
2. 159 S Channing St—Installation of garage—2016 Grant Application
3. 477 Arlington Av—Installation of fence
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
March 22, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel (6:01), and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller, Paul Kuester
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
418 Lowrie Ct—Replacement Windows
159 5 Channing St—Installation of garage—2016 Grant Application
477 Arlington Av—Installation of fence
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of March 8, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed (5-0).
ITEMS TABLED:
None
OLD BUSINESS:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
418 Lowrie Ct—Replacement Windows
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request for the replacement
windows due to issues with energy efficiency(air infiltration). The applicant proposed to install
Casco,aluminum clad wood,double-hung, 1/1 windows.
On February 23, 2016,the DRSC denied the applicant's request to replace the windows with the
submitted Casco new construction replacement window and recommended that the applicant
pursue other windows that meet the DRSC specifications. At that time,the applicant was
advised of the appeals process. In lieu of appealing the DRSC's decision,the applicant pursued
obtaining estimates for windows that meet the DRSC specifications/dimensions. Additionally,a
Casco representative spoke with the DRSC at their regular scheduled meeting on March 8,2016
regarding their insert window.The DRSC stated that they have approved this window in the
past. In light of this,the applicant is re-submitting a request for the aluminum clad wood
window installation of the Casco insert window.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location,size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
rB. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design.Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage,excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack,and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That all windows shall be 1/1 double-hung,aluminum clad wood and must fit original
window openings.
2. The window replacements must match the profile of the original windows.
3. Window glass shall not be tinted.
Juan & Mireda Estrada(owner)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
If window trim/casing is removed it must be replaced in kind (same size, profile, style, etc).
Jambs and sills should be measured independently for each window opening.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended by staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
159 S Channing St—Installation of garage—2016 Grant Application
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to demolish the
existing 2-car garage on the property.The garage has deteriorated beyond repair—the roof has
collapsed and the rear wall has buckled.The structure has been condemned by the Code
Enforcement Department for immediate removal as it poses a safety hazard.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a
new garage on the property.The garage will be located in the same location as the existing
garage. The existing asphalt driveway will remain and be extended to the rear to provide access
to the new proposed garage.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Demolition: should not occur, unless:
A. An emergency condition exists and the public safety and welfare requires the removal
of the building or structure;
B. A building does not contribute to the historical or architectural character of the
districts and its removal will improve the appearance of the districts;or
C. The denial of the demolition will result in an Economic Hardship on the applicant as
determined by Chapter 20.10 of Title 20 of the Elgin Municipal Code—"Elgin Historic
Preservation Ordinance."
D. The denial of the demolition will impede rehabilitation, or redevelopment of the site,
and/or adjacent properties from substantially improving the aesthetic, architectural or
economic value of the affected properties and surrounding area.
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in nature.
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B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design,shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling such as clapboard,
stucco,or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street,secondary buildings may
have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate
trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages,wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl,aluminum, or steel.Wood paneled
overhead roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For
two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double door is more
appropriate for use in a historic district. However,one double is unacceptable for
garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not be
appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
rthe house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the application as submitted, as the proposed changes/repairs to
the structure will further enhance its architectural character.
Sergio Vasquez(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion. Committee Member John
Roberson recused himself from the project;his drawings were submitted for this application.
Existing deteriorated garage was built between 1950 and now.
Siding on the house is 2 3/" clapboard siding. Proposed siding for garage is 4" exposure. Garage
is setback considerably from the street. There is a cement product out there with a 2 34"
profile.
Roberson explained the side elevations gables are so high,the top 6"will be stepped out.
Committee acknowledged the following details need to be added to drawings prior to permit
submittal:
fillik Over the upper portion of the garage face to have an 8"-12"frieze board with crown molding.
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rShingles will be architectural design (not 3 tab).
Valley flashing to be metal or weaved shingles.
Service door to be either top 4 lite or solid.
Window trim to match the house.
Brackets to be added to back elevation (three brackets on both the front and back elevations).
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as amended (items listed above
for building permit submittal); and staff to approve give final details regarding a)service door
style, b) crown molding and c)valley flashing(metal or weaving) prior to permit release.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed 5-0-1. Abstain:Roberson
477 Arlington Av—Installation of fence
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a new
privacy fence on the north,south and west side of the house.
The applicant is proposing to install a 6'-0" privacy fence in the rear and side yards. The
applicant indicated that they would like to replace the current 6'-0" privacy fence at the side
yard with another 6'-0"privacy fence. The current side yard fence is located 8'-0" off of the
rear corner of the home in the side yard. The proposed fence shall match the fence installed by
the neighbors located at 476 S. Liberty Street.
Per the Historic District Guidelines, privacy fences shall be located at the rear corner of the
building. If a fence is located past this point in a side yard,then it shall be 50%open with a
maximum height of 42 inches.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Fences
A. Should be proportionate to the house and the design should be compatible with the
character of the building and district.
B. Should be painted white or a trim color related to the house, never left to weather or
given a stain finish.
C. Of cast iron or other material of original design should be preserved.
D. Of cast iron may be added to buildings constructed in the late 19th and early 20th
century. Cast iron fences are generally not appropriate for dwellings built after 1920.
E. If placed along common property lines should not be placed against another fence-
double line fencing is not permitted.
F. Should have posts that are set a minimum of 30 inches below grade and no more than
eight feet apart.
G. If wood, be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine,cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
H. That has a decorative gate or arbors must be submitted with a drawing complete with
dimensions.
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Fences in Front Yards
I Should be no higher than 36 inches with the posts being slightly higher and having caps
J. Should have pickets no wider than four inches with spacing between boards a minimum
of one inch up to the width of the board depending on the design of the fence.
K. If applicable to the layout,should have a minimum of corner posts end posts and gate
posts which are slightly taller than the fence and five to ten inches thick with a cap and
finial. Line posts can be visible and decorative to compliment the main posts or be
hidden behind the picket design. Fences which cross a driveway or walkway should
have gate posts. Gates should be designed to swing onto the private walkway or
driveway, not onto the public sidewalk.
Fences in Rear Yards
L. Built for privacy should not extend beyond the rear yard beginning at the back corner of
the house.
M. Built for privacy should have a minimum of gate post, corner post, and end posts which
are five to ten inches wide and taller than the pickets.
N. Can be constructed in the same low fence design found in the front yard
0. Of wood boards or planks for privacy should be located in rear yards and be no taller
than six feet. Boards should be no more than six inches wide.
P. Privacy fences of flat boards with flat tops in a single row are most appropriate for the
historic districts. Vertical boards topped with lattice or picket are also appropriate as
privacy fences.
rStaff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted,since the height of the fence
in the front and side yards do not meet the height requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline
Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
If the height of the fence is approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review
Subcommittee recommend the following.
1. The fencing shall be a maximum of 6'-0" high.
2. The fencing shall be painted to match the trim of the house.
3. The fence shall be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine, cypress or other rot
resistant wood.
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Danielle Jacobson(owner)&Jon Jacobson(son)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner wants to replace fence in same location as previous fence,which aligns with the
adjacent southern property's fence line.
Commissioners discussed the guideline requirements for"painting"of fences. Painting/white
washing was typical and customary of picket fences. Members feel privacy fences(solid 6'
fence styles)should not be painted and would be allowed to weather or have a clear stain
applied.
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Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as submitted with the following
amendments 1) matching plane of neighbors fence line, and 2) no paint (natural wood).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
General conversation regarding knee walls projects previously reviewed by committee,due to a
property located on Douglas Avenue is considering applying for a preservation grant.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cindy A.Wlaldln Approved:
Design RevkeyA Subcommittee Secretary April 12, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,April 12, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 22, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
2016 Grant Applications
r1. 442 Du Page Street—Installation of historically appropriate balusters and newel
[ posts at front and side porch
2. 376 Prairie Street- Replace any and all rotted exterior trim and siding with rot-
resistant wood to match existing; Scrape, prime and paint body and trim of house;
repair cracked areas of concrete porches to the south and east sides of house; add
decorative scrollwork to bottom of eaves in keeping with style or ornamentation in
peaks and sized to fit shadows found on eaves (48").
3. 159 S Channing Street—Reconstruct front porch including replacement of stairs,
installation of historically appropriate handrails, balusters at stairs and porch and
newel posts.
4. 916 N. Spring Street- Exterior repairs and painting of entire house: repair/restore
windows; prime and paint entire house with three colors; reconstruct porch stairs
with historically appropriate handrails, balusters and newel posts; install gutters and
downspouts on entire home.
5. 802 Douglas Avenue- Restoration of front, wrap around porches including: Removal
of existing flooring and replacement with 1x4 tongue and groove; removal of knee
walls and replace concrete steps on south and east side of house with wood steps;
installation of handrails and balusters to match originals; far column on the south
side to be replaced with wood column to match original, other columns to be
restored; lattice at skirting to be replaced with vertical boards with cut-out pattern
found on Queen Anne style houses; south porch reconstruction including
"* replacement of wood stairs, balusters, newel posts and skirting.
6. 363 Wellington Avenue—Removal of substitute siding, restoration of original siding
or installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original siding condition, removal
of vinyl windows and installation of aluminum-clad wood windows.
7. 352 Prairie Street- Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch; removal of substitute
siding; restoration of original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent
on original siding condition; restoration of side and rear porch; tear-off and reroof
with construction of Prairie Street dormer.
8. 265 Douglas Avenue - Removal of substitute siding on entire house, repair/replace
all trim, corner boards, window casings, drip and skirt boards, install all new cedar
siding primed %"x6", trim to be composite or treated; new front porch to original
size with beveled top rail and 11/. square balusters, tongue and groove floor;
removal of side porch —not original to house and install a landing and stairs with
railing to match front porch; paint entire house.
9. 278 Douglas Avenue - Remove and replace deteriorated/sunken area of concrete
floor on front porch; replace and repair entire front porch wood materials including
columns, railing, column bases and caps, ceiling and details; repair, replace 2nd front
facade trim and detail, repair siding; paint front of house and new porch; repair
masonry foundation on porch.
10. 375 Prairie Street— Restore 4 car garage to display elements/features borrowed
from the house including installation of a cedar roof, rebuild the soffits to match
house design, %2"x4" cedar beveled siding to match siding on home.
G. Other
1. Grant Review scheduled for April 19, 2016 at 6:00PM in the City Council Chambers.
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
April 12, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson,Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Dennis Roxworthy
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve the minutes of March 22, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed (5-0).
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Pat Miller, George Rowe,Jose Cardenas,John Anderson, Carol Anderson, Dragoslav Yordanova,
Elenka Yordanova, Heidi Schroeder, Richard Popko,Grant Born, Robert Tierney, Elizabeth
Tierney,Kim Bauer
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
2016 Grant Applications
1. 442 Du Page Street—Installation of historically appropriate balusters and newel posts at
front and side porch
2. 376 Prairie Street- Replace any and all rotted exterior trim and siding with rot-resistant
wood to match existing;Scrape, prime and paint body and trim of house; repair cracked
areas of concrete porches to the south and east sides of house;add decorative scrollwork to
bottom of eaves in keeping with style or ornamentation in peaks and sized to fit shadows
found on eaves (48").
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3. 159 S Channing Street—Reconstruct front porch including replacement of stairs, installation
of historically appropriate handrails, balusters at stairs and porch and newel posts.
4. 916 N.Spring Street- Exterior repairs and painting of entire house: repair/restore windows;
prime and paint entire house with three colors;reconstruct porch stairs with historically
appropriate handrails, balusters and newel posts; install gutters and downspouts on entire
home.
5. 802 Douglas Avenue-Restoration of front,wrap around porches including: Removal of
existing flooring and replacement with 1x4 tongue and groove; removal of knee walls and
replace concrete steps on south and east side of house with wood steps; installation of
handrails and balusters to match originals;far column on the south side to be replaced with
wood column to match original, other columns to be restored; lattice at skirting to be
replaced with vertical boards with cut-out pattern found on Queen Anne style houses;
south porch reconstruction including replacement of wood stairs, balusters, newel posts
and skirting.
6. 363 Wellington Avenue—Removal of substitute siding, restoration of original siding or
installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original siding condition, removal of vinyl
windows and installation of aluminum-clad wood windows.
7. 352 Prairie Street- Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch; removal of substitute siding;
restoration of original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original
siding condition; restoration of side and rear porch;tear-off and reroof with construction of
Prairie Street dormer.
r 8. 265 Douglas Avenue- Removal of substitute siding on entire house, repair/replace all trim,
corner boards,window casings, drip and skirt boards, install all new cedar siding primed
1/4"x6",trim to be composite or treated; new front porch to original size with beveled top
rail and 1 1/4 square balusters, tongue and groove floor; removal of side porch—not original
to house and install a landing and stairs with railing to match front porch; paint entire
house.
9. 278 Douglas Avenue-Remove and replace deteriorated/sunken area of concrete floor on
front porch; replace and repair entire front porch wood materials including columns, railing,
column bases and caps,ceiling and details; repair, replace 2nd front facade trim and detail,
repair siding; paint front of house and new porch; repair masonry foundation on porch.
10.375 Prairie Street—Restore 4 car garage to display elements/features borrowed from the
house including installation of a cedar roof, rebuild the soffits to match house design, 1/4"x4"
cedar beveled siding to match siding on home.
ITEMS TABLED:
352 Prairie Street—Due to non-representation
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NEW BUSINESS:
442 Du Page Street—Installation of historically appropriate balusters and newel posts at front
and side porch
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove
existing porch details and replace with details that are more appropriate for the style.
The front porch was restored to its original configuration at its period of significance between
1888-1913.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
rconcrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
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rB. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. Porch elements(balusters,handrails,bottom rails, and newel posts) shall match the
submitted specifications.
2. Porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from deck
3. The top and bottom rails shall be sloped/chamfered.
4. Baluster spacing shall be a maximum of 3 inches per submitted specifications.
5. That the stair treads shall 5/4"x 12(recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable.When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads,paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws(ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
6. All front and rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
Chris Berry(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Side porch balusters discussed at 20" with a 2"clearance from the bottom, cap to be 24"from
deck.
Newel post(turned tapered) is appropriate for Queen Anne style. Could also be constructed as
a square post with round ball topper.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended by staff recommendations
and clearance from decking.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
376 Prairie Street-Replace any and all rotted exterior trim and siding with rot-resistant wood
to match existing;Scrape,prime and paint body and trim of house;repair cracked areas of
concrete porches to the south and east sides of house;add decorative scrollwork to bottom of
eaves in keeping with style or ornamentation in peaks and sized to fit shadows found on
eaves(48").
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
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1. Replace any and all rotted exterior trim and siding with rot-resistant wood to match
existing;
2. Scrape, prime and paint body and trim of house to match existing historic colors;
3. Repair cracked areas of concrete porches to the south and east sides of house;
4. Add decorative scrollwork to bottom of eaves in keeping with style or ornamentation in
peaks and sized to fit shadows found on eaves (48").
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass,or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match
the original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the original
siding should be repaired to match the original,caulked and painted. If the "ghosts"or
outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be
replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they should be recorded
through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding.The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. if asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
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D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original.Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood
based materials such as particle board,gyp board, or press board.These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair,or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be
smooth without knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of
original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if
no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards,
base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers.
A paint shaver may be used,but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Architectural Details and Features
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced.
B. Should not be removed or altered if original to the building
C. Should not be covered or concealed with vinyl, aluminum, or other substitute
material
D. Should not be added unless there is physical, pictorial, or historical evidence that
such features were original to the house or consistent with the style which would
allow them to be added to the house.These features should match the original in
materials,scale, location, proportions,form and detailing.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the application as submitted, as the proposed changes/repairs to
the structure will further enhance its architectural character.
elk Hans Klemmer(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Trim,siding (in kind)and painting are reviewed and approved by staff. Based on scroll work
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found in the peaks, original was a 2x14 board. Scale is larger toward the bottom of the eves.
Classis design used on historic structures.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve as amended with staff comments and
for staff to approve final size of template.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed 5-0.
159 S Channing Street—Reconstruct front porch including replacement of stairs,installation
of historically appropriate handrails,balusters at stairs and porch and newel posts.
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application for the
following:
1. Reconstruct front porch including
a. Replacement of stairs;
b. Installation of historically appropriate handrails, balusters at stairs and porch and
newel posts.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
1. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
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C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property.Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck.
2. The top and bottom rails should be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a 34 cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square newel posts (6x6)with square
hipped caps.The top of the handrail should end in the columns or newel post on either
side of the stair.
5. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed,the treads should be constructed in either
5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the
riser by no less than 1 inch.
6. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Sergio Vasquez(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Decking is fine. If steps are replaced,they would need to meet code requirements for height
and depth of treads. Handrails and spindles need to be replaced.
Owner would like to mimic 607 Douglas Avenue gooseneck railing and newel post of 115 Hill.
Turned spindles 2'/,".
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended with staff comments and
the following: 1) serpentine stair railing, 2)gooseneck railing(mimic 607 Douglas), 3)capitol
ornamentation to be approved by staff, and 4)newel post slightly tapered with square cap
(similar to 115 Hill).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed 4-0-1(Abstain: Roberson).
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' 916 N.Spring Street-Exterior repairs and painting of entire house:repair/restore windows;
prime and paint entire house with three colors;reconstruct porch stairs with historically
appropriate handrails, balusters and newel posts;install gutters and downspouts on entire
home.
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application for the
following:
1. Reconstruct front porch including
c. Replacement of front porch stairs;
d. Installation of historically appropriate handrails, balusters and newel posts at
front steps.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats,or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
1. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
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rik B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The top and bottom rails should be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a%" cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
2. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 23 inches apart.
3. The handrails down the stairs should end in round newel posts (6x6)with post and ball
cap.The top of the handrail should end in the columns or newel post on either side of the
stair.
4. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed,the treads should be constructed in either
5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the
riser by no less than 1 inch.
5. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Dragoslav and Elenka Yordanova(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
No powerwashing.
Newel posts would look appropriate in a tapered designed and a ball cap.
Handrail to begin in front of column, if possible.
Slats for skirting underneath stairs.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve as amended by staff comments and
the following: newel post to be tapered.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously(5-0).
802 Douglas Avenue-Restoration of front, wrap around porches including:Removal of
existing flooring and replacement with 1x4 tongue and groove;removal of knee walls and
replace concrete steps on south and east side of house with wood steps;installation of
handrails and balusters to match originals;far column on the south side to be replaced with
wood column to match original,other columns to be restored;lattice at skirting to be
replaced with vertical boards with cut-out pattern found on Queen Anne style houses;south
porch reconstruction including replacement of wood stairs, balusters, newel posts and skirting
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Restoration of front,wrap around porches including:
[ 2. Removal of existing flooring and replacement with 1x4 tongue and groove;
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3. Removal of knee walls and replace concrete steps on south and east side of house
with wood steps;
4. Installation of handrails and balusters to match originals;
5. Far column on the south side to be replaced with wood column to match original,
other columns to be restored;
6. Lattice at skirting to be replaced with vertical boards with cut-out pattern found on
Queen Anne style houses;
7. South porch reconstruction including replacement of wood stairs, balusters, newel
posts and skirting.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch,patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
1. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required,use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property.Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
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elk B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete,if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the application as submitted, as the proposed changes/repairs to
the structure will further enhance its architectural character.
Heidi Schroeder(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Front porch:
Finials are inside and outside. Two columns to be replaced (top is rotting out and filled with
bondo). Same style column to be installed. Capitols are in good shape and will be put back in.
Bases will be replaced.
Cutout of skirting design not presented (could be approved by staff).
Spindles to be moved closer together;currently too far apart.
Side porch:
filik Same design for railings and newel posts as the front porch.
Motion made by Committee Member Hunter to approve as submitted with the following
amendment: cutout design of skirting to be approved by staff.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed 4-0-1 (Abstain: Savel).
363 Wellington Avenue—Removal of substitute siding, restoration of original siding or
installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original siding condition, removal of vinyl
windows and installation of aluminum-clad wood windows.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove
substitute siding,and restore the original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent
on original siding condition; removal of vinyl windows and installation of aluminum-clad wood
windows that fit the existing window opening size as well as reconstruct original window hoods
and details.
On October 13, 2015,the applicant appealed the denial made by the Design Review
Subcommittee to maintain the vinyl siding and vinyl windows that were installed on the
property without a Certificate of Appropriateness or permit. On November 3, 2015,the Elgin
rHeritage Commission found that it would not be unreasonable or impracticable to require the
applicant conform to the design guidelines rather than the proposed and that the work
completed,would not continue to maintain the essential form and the integrity of the historic
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property.At this time,the Applicant chose not to appeal to City Council but rather resubmit a
Certificate of Appropriateness to reflect removal of the substitute siding and vinyl windows and
restore the exterior.
To note, before the applicant placed vinyl siding on the building,the exterior cladding of 363
Wellington Avenue was not original to the home but another substitute siding material.
Staff has also advised the applicant that the Design Guidelines permit the installation of new
siding(wood or fiber cement) over the entire building only if more than 50%of the original
siding is damaged and beyond repair.Staff has advised the applicant that once the non-original
siding is removed any architectural features that can be restored as per the building's shadow
lines will be required. To note,the architectural features including the original window hoods
were removed during installation of the vinyl siding.
The applicant indicated that the windows that were removed were older, replacement vinyl
windows.The applicant has submitted for review aluminum-clad wood windows that will fill the
existing window opening size.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,
wood siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to
match the original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed
beneath synthetic sidings such as aluminum,asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired
and the synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings, the
original siding should be repaired to match the original,caulked and painted. If the
"ghosts"or outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should
generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced, they
should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow
hazardous material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-
based materials such as particleboard,gyp board,or pressboard. These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair, or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
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• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,corner boards, base boards,molding
and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as closely as
possible. The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to prevent moisture
damage.
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary
facades where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
r shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage,excessive
weathering, loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or
insect attack, and cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a
particular window may be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the
estimated cost to repair the windows is more than the estimated cost of the
purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match
the original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to
match the original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum
extruded windows are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash
windows, as long as their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E
glass that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that
does not contain a tint should be used.
r Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
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Siding
1. Upon removal of the vinyl siding and the substitute siding underneath, Staff shall be
consulted to conduct a condition assessment and make a determination as to the
percentage of damaged siding.
2. If more than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than replacement siding
in cedar or fiber cement board siding shall be installed on the entire house with proper
trim around windows, corner boards, base boards,fascia boards and soffits under roof
overhangs meeting the following requirements:
a. The exposure of the exterior siding is no more than 4%-inch exposure.
b. Window trim be no less than 4 inches,with a top board and drip cap in a detail
approved by staff.
c. Corner boards are no less than 4 inches wide.
d. Base boards/water table be no less than 8 inches wide with a drip edge installed.
The water table with drip edge shall be constructed to run around the entire
building.
e. All missing window hoods to match 2012 photographs and shadows must be
installed
3. If less than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than the existing siding
shall be preserved/rehabilitated with the following requirements:
a. Damaged siding shall be repaired,epoxy preferred
b. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred
c. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements in kind to
match the original siding profile and exposure
d. All replacement wood material shall be clear(no knots), cedar preferred and
installed smooth side out
e. All missing window hoods to match 2012 photographs and shadows must be
installed
f. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners
and around doors and windows,which includes but not limited to the corner
boards and front window caps.
g. Siding shall be sanded,primed and painted.
Windows
1. That all windows shall be 1/1 double-hung, aluminum clad wood and must fit original
window openings.
2. The window replacements must match the profile and sizes of what would be typical of
historic windows.
3. Window glass shall not be tinted.
Richard Popko (owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Siding appears to be asphalt shingles, but you can't tell for sure. Question of whether cedar
siding is included in the grant application (similar project at Gifford & Park in 2014?). Siding
profile proposed is 714". Typically 4-4'/:" profile. Frieze board should be 8-10"at top and eves.
Quarter(1/4) round under sill,would be optional. Corner boards can be padded out to sit
rk proud of the siding.
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Window needs cap/crown to match existing(front of house,top window). Eliminate apron
board under sill.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended by staff with the following
amendments: 1) siding exposure of 4-4 Y:", 2)corner boards are to sit proud of the siding,3)
quarter round molding to be installed,if needed,4)eliminate apron board under sill board, 5)
install 8-10"frieze boards,6)window sill board to extend 1" beyond window on both sides.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
352 Prairie Street-Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch;removal of substitute siding;
restoration of original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original
siding condition;restoration of side and rear porch;tear-off and reroof with construction of
Prairie Street dormer.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch;
2. Removal of substitute siding;
3. Restoration of original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original
siding condition;
4. Restoration of side(Chapel Street) and rear porch;
5. Tear-off and reroof with reconstruction of Prairie Street dormer
The existing siding is of a substitute material and not original to the home.The applicant has
indicated their interest in removal of the substitute siding and replacement with fiber cement
board.
Staff conducted a site assessment on May 18,2016. At that time,the condition of the windows,
porches and siding were assessed. Restoration of the windows is not proposed at this time.
Staff performed a quick assessment of the siding and found that that the original siding appears
to have been removed when the substitute siding was installed on the property.
However,staff has advised the applicant that the Design Guidelines permit the installation of
new siding(wood or fiber cement)over the entire building only if more than 50%of the original
siding is missing,damaged and beyond repair. Staff has advised the applicant that once the
non-original siding is removed any architectural features that can be restored as per the
building's shadow lines will be required.
Somewhere between 1913 and 1950,the original 1-story wrap around porch was removed and
a small two story side porch (Chapel Street)was constructed as well as a full width,two story
porch located on Prairie Street.An older image found in Steve Stroud's"There Used to Be,"Vol.
2, shows the small,two-story side porch and the full width,two story porch in what may have
been its original design when the porches were built (1913-1950).
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To note,the applicant's submitted porch design is similar to an approved concept design that
was reviewed by the Design Review Subcommittee on July 27, 2010. However, the applicant is
unable to complete the 2010 proposed wrap around porch,but noted that this is a possibility in
the future.
Applicant noted that the concrete stairs and landings at the side porch (Chapel Street)and front
porch (Prairie Street)will remain.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass,or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
r`" made of wood.
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C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Roofs
A. Should be retained in their original shape and pitch, with original features(such as
cresting,chimneys,finals,cupolas,etc.),and,if possible,with original roof materials.
B. Should be re-roofed with substitute materials such as asphalt or fiberglass shingles if
the original materials are no longer present or if the retention of the original roof
material is not economically feasible.
C. Should be in appropriate colors such as dark grey, black, brown or shades of dark
red; red or green may also be appropriate for Craftsman/Bungalow period dwellings
for new asphalt or fiberglass shingled roofs.
D. Should have sawn cedar shingles added only after a complete tear-off of the existing
roof materials is completed.This is necessary to provide adequate ventilation and
proper drying of the roof during wet conditions.
E. Should have soldered metal panels added as the surface material, if the roof is flat. If
not readily visible, rolled composition or EPDM (rolled rubber) roofing materials are
acceptable.
F. Should have proper water-tight flashing at junctions between roofs and walls,
around chimneys, skylights,vent pipes,and in valleys and hips where two planes of a
roof meet. Metal flashing should be used instead of the application of caulking
material or bituminous coating, which can deteriorate due to weathering and allow
moisture damage
G. Should not have new dormers, roof decks, balconies or other additions introduced
on fronts of dwellings.These types of additions may be added on the rear or sides of
dwellings where not readily visible.
H. Should not have split cedar shakes, in most cases.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced,if original. If replacement is necessary,wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match
the original in size, placement,and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the original
siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or
outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be
replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they should be recorded
through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding.The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood
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based materials such as particle board,gyp board, or press board.These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair,or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather,cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board stock is
preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of
original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no
trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards, base
boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as closely as
possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to prevent moisture
damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers.
A paint shaver may be used,but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck, unless
decking is greater than 39 inches in height from grade,than guard rail shall be 36 inches in
height from decking (second floor balconies).
2. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a%cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6"x6" newel posts with square
hipped caps. The top of the handrail should end in the columns on either side of the stair.
5. New columns shall be square 6"x6"with simple trim detail at top and bottom.
6. The new porch decking(found at rear porch and second floor balconies)shall be 1x4
tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house. Douglas fir,pressure treated
wood or composite material(recommended) is acceptable.
7. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed (at rear porch near garage), the treads
should be constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be
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bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch. % inch cove molding may be
installed under each tread.
8. All porch details shall match submitted architectural drawings.
9. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Siding
1. Upon removal of the substitute siding,Staff shall be consulted to conduct a condition
assessment and make a determination as to the percentage of damaged siding.
2. If more than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than replacement siding in
cedar or fiber cement board siding shall be installed on the entire house with proper trim
around windows, corner boards, base boards,fascia boards and soffits under roof
overhangs meeting the following requirements:
a. The exposure of the exterior siding is no more than 4%-inch exposure.
b. Window trim be no less than 4 inches,with a top board and drip cap in a detail
approved by staff.
c. Corner boards are no less than 4 inches wide.
d. Base boards/water table be no less than 8 inches wide with a drip edge installed.
The water table with drip edge shall be constructed to run around the entire
building.
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
3. If less than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than the existing siding shall
be preserved/rehabilitated with the following requirements:
a. Damaged siding shall be repaired,epoxy preferred
b. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred
c. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements in kind to
match the original siding profile and exposure
d. All replacement wood material shall be clear(no knots),cedar preferred and
installed smooth side out
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
f. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners
and around doors and windows,which includes but not limited to the corner
boards and front window caps.
g. Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
*****
There was no owner representation at the meeting. Item was tabled for April 26, 2016 Design
Review Subcommittee meeting.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to table COA request due to non-representation.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
265 Douglas Avenue-Removal of substitute siding on entire house, repair/replace all trim,
corner boards, window casings, drip and skirt boards, install all new cedar siding primed
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r"+ 34"x6", trim to be composite or treated;new front porch to original size with beveled top rail
and 13.square balusters, tongue and groove floor;removal of side porch—not original to
house and install a landing and stairs with railing to match front porch;paint entire house.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Removal of substitute siding on entire house,
2. Install all new 1/4"x6"cedar bevel siding with 4'/:"exposure,
3. Repair/replace all trim,corner boards,window casings, drip and skirt boards, trim to be
composite or treated;
4. Reconstruction of front porch to original size;
a. Beveled top rail;
b. 1''A square balusters;
c. Installation of 3/"x 3 '/,"tongue and groove decking;
d. Create and install four new columns and three new newel posts for new porch,
i. Columns to be square 6"x6"with simple trim detail at top and bottom,
ii. Newel posts shall be square 6"x6"with squared hipped caps;
5. Removal of side porch which is not original to house;
a. Install a landing and stairs at this location with railing to match front porch
6. Paint entire house
fik Staff completed a site inspection on February 23, 2016 and found substitute siding covering
75%of the building. The original,exposed siding was found to be in fair to poor condition.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels,if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
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1. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass,or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property.Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,
wood siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to
match the original in size, placement, and design.Wood that has been concealed
beneath synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired
and the synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the
original siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the
"ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should
generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they
should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding.The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood
based materials such as particle board,gyp board, or press board. These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair,or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
rmet:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
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b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather,cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board stock
is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal
of original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds.
However, if no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,
corner boards, base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical
removers.A paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of
wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck.
2. The top and bottom rails should be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a 3/cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square newel posts(6x6)with square
hipped caps.The top of the handrail should end in the columns or newel post on either
side of the stair.
5. The porch skirting may be reconstructed as proposed with care taken to ensure that the
porch floor overhangs the skirting frame board by no less than 1 inch.
6. The flooring shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house.
Douglas fir, pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is acceptable.
7. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed,the treads should be constructed in either
5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the
riser by no less than 1 inch.
8. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
r
Siding
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1. If siding is found to be 50%of more damaged, staff recommends that the Design Review
Subcommittee recommend the use of new cedar siding to match same size and detailing as
what is existing.
2. Window casings and trim shall match the existing in size, profile and design.
3. Corner boards shall match the original in size, profile and design,no less than 4 inches wide.
4. Siding,trim and details shall be primed and painted.
*****
Grant Born (owner)and John Anderson (contractor)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Siding: Substitute siding is unknown. Exposed siding is in poor condition. Trim to be replaced.
No window hoods are known to exist. After siding is removed, look for shadows of trim
especially around the windows.
Front porch: Columns to stay. Spindles could to turned or square, needs simple design since
this was a farm house. Must be 1 X"true square balusters,no rounded edges. Newel post with
ball cap. Decking to be 5/4"tongue and groove. Treads to be solid with beveled edges.
Side porch: Not visible from street. Was added about 20 years ago; not original. Would like to
just tear the porch off. No roof proposed. New landing(minimum 3'x3')then straight out to
sidewalk. Details would mimic front porch features: 5/4"decking, no open risers,36"handrail
(if over 30"from grade),skirting to match front(1x4 slates with appropriate corner/trim
boards: 1x6 top &sides and 1x4 bottom)
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve as amended by staff comments and
the following amendment:staff to approve column design.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 4-0-1(Abstain: Savel).
278 Douglas Avenue-Remove and replace deteriorated/sunken area of concrete floor on
front porch;replace and repair entire front porch wood materials including columns, railing,
column bases and caps, ceiling and details;repair, replace 2nd front facade trim and detail,
repair siding;paint front of house and new porch;repair masonry foundation on porch.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Remove and replace deteriorated/sunken area of concrete floor on front porch;
2. Replace and/or repair entire front porch wood materials including columns, railing,
column bases and caps,ceiling and details;
a. Replace existing columns with new columns, column bases, and column bases to
be a close, but not exact match to existing
b. Install new railings in location of existing. New railings to have 2"x4" cedar top
and bottom rails with chamfered edges, 1 3/8" square balusters spaced 2", and
cove detail under top railing. New railings to be same height as existing.
c. Install new%"x 3 1/8" bead-board porch ceiling on existing ceiling framing.
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"m. d. Install new plywood soffit, wood or composite fascia and wood bed molding on
existing roof/soffit framing.
3. Repair, replace 2nd front facade trim and detail, repair siding, existing window and door
casing around eight existing windows and two existing doors and miscellaneous existing
trims;
4. Paint front of house and new porch;
5. Repair masonry foundation on porch.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood,not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch,patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
rif the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass,or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
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C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical
removers. A paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of
wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the application as submitted, as the proposed changes/repairs to
the structure will further enhance its architectural character.
Grant Born (owner)and John Anderson (contractor)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Concrete floor: One section is bad. Plan install plain concrete with a trowel finish. An epoxy
finish will be completed to the entire concrete flooring to give continuous appearance.
rik Front porch: Columns to be composite material (straight, no tapering). Bases in wood or
composite material. Standard historic district railing details. Square corner on balusters.
Ceiling to have 1x4 tongue and groove bead board. Smooth fascia boards with crown added to
match. "Vents"will be installed under the concrete. Trim to match in kind (front facade only).
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve as submitted with the following
amendments: 1)smooth face plywood for soffit and 2) crown added to fascia.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed 4-0-1 (Abstain: Savel).
375 Prairie Street—Restore 4 car garage to display elements/features borrowed from the
house including installation of a cedar roof, rebuild the soffits to match house design,%"x4"
cedar beveled siding to match siding on home.
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to restore 4 car
garage to display elements/features borrowed from the house including installation of a cedar
roof, rebuild the soffits to match house design,)4"x4"cedar beveled siding to match siding on
home.
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Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds,Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling;clearly secondary in nature.
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B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys,and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design,shape, materials,and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling such as clapboard,
stucco,or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street, secondary buildings may
have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate
trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood paneled
overhead roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For
two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double door is more
appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is unacceptable for
garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not be
appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the request to construct the new garage if the following
conditions are met:
1. That the garage siding material will be clear cedar(no knots) and installed smooth side
out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
2. That the siding and trim is to be painted a color to match or complement the existing
house colors.Siding and trim shall match the profile, size, design that is found on the
existing home.
3. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
Robert and Elizabeth Tierney(owners)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Overhead door will need a header to support overhead door opening, approximately 12"
height. Steel beam maybe possible. Same size and pitch of roof. Two new overhead doors,
top row to be with windows (carriage house design similar to 110 Slade).
Needs to extend rafters to put crown and bed molding on to match the house.
Window trim (standard 1x4)with small crown.
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Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended by staff recommendations
following amendments: 1)staff to approve garage overhead door design,and 2)hip roof raised
12-16" in height.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Staff noted that the Grant Review is scheduled for April 19,2016 at 6:00PM in the City Council
Chambers.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A.W n Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary /
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,April 26, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 12, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 279 Raymond Street— Installation of Driveway at side yard
2. 257 Raymond Street—Replacement of 6 windows at 2nd floor due to fire
3. 320 Watch Court—Installation of canopies at entrances
4. 316-322 Division Street—Installation of fence in front yard to hide garbage totes
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 352 Prairie Street—2016 Grant Application—Tabled on 4-12-16
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-56161
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
April 26, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
Chairman Wiedmeyer acknowledged and welcome new board member Lynne Diamond.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson (6:10), Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Save!, and
John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
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RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Pat Miller,Kim Bauer
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
352 Prairie Street—2016 Grant Application (listed on agenda under Tabled Items)
New Business
279 Raymond Street—Installation of Driveway at side yard
257 Raymond Street—Replacement of 6 windows at 2"d floor due to fire
320 Watch Court—Installation of canopies at entrances
316-322 Division Street—Installation of fence in front yard to hide garbage totes
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were presented for consideration.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
352 Prairie Street—2016 Grant Application
This item was tabled at the April 12,2016 DRSC meeting due to no owner representation.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to un-table item for discussion.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch;
2. Removal of substitute siding;
3. Restoration of original siding or installation of cedar siding dependent on original siding
condition;
4. Restoration of side (Chapel Street)and rear porch;
5. Tear-off and reroof with reconstruction of Prairie Street dormer
The existing siding is of a substitute material and not original to the home.The applicant has
indicated their interest in removal of the substitute siding and replacement with fiber cement
board.
Staff conducted a site assessment on March 18, 2016.At that time,the condition of the
windows,porches and siding were assessed. Restoration of the windows is not proposed at this
time. Staff performed a quick assessment of the siding and found that that the original siding
appears to have been removed when the substitute siding was installed on the property.
However,staff has advised the applicant that the Design Guidelines permit the installation of
new siding(wood or fiber cement)over the entire building only if more than 50%of the original
siding is missing, damaged and beyond repair.Staff has advised the applicant that once the
non-original siding is removed any architectural features that can be restored as per the
building's shadow lines will be required.
Somewhere between 1913 and 1950,the original 1-story wrap around porch was removed and
a small two story side porch (Chapel Street)was constructed as well as a full width, two story
porch located on Prairie Street. An older image found in Steve Stroud's "There Used to Be,"Vol.
2, shows the small,two-story side porch and the full width,two story porch in what may have
been its original design when the porches were built (1913-1950).
To note,the applicant's submitted porch design is similar to an approved concept design that
was reviewed by the Design Review Subcommittee on July 27, 2010. However,the applicant is
unable to complete the 2010 proposed wrap around porch, but noted that this is a possibility in
the future.
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Applicant noted that the concrete stairs and landings at the side porch (Chapel Street)and front
porch (Prairie Street)will remain.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood,if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
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Roofs
A. Should be retained in their original shape and pitch,with original features(such as
cresting,chimneys,finals, cupolas,etc.), and, if possible,with original roof materials.
B. Should be re-roofed with substitute materials such as asphalt or fiberglass shingles if the
original materials are no longer present or if the retention of the original roof material is
not economically feasible.
C. Should be in appropriate colors such as dark grey, black, brown or shades of dark red;
red or green may also be appropriate for Craftsman/Bungalow period dwellings for new
asphalt or fiberglass shingled roofs.
D. Should have sawn cedar shingles added only after a complete tear-off of the existing
roof materials is completed.This is necessary to provide adequate ventilation and
proper drying of the roof during wet conditions.
E. Should have soldered metal panels added as the surface material, if the roof is flat. If
not readily visible, rolled composition or EPDM (rolled rubber) roofing materials are
acceptable.
F. Should have proper water-tight flashing at junctions between roofs and walls, around
chimneys,skylights,vent pipes, and in valleys and hips where two planes of a roof meet.
Metal flashing should be used instead of the application of caulking material or
bituminous coating,which can deteriorate due to weathering and allow moisture
damage
G. Should not have new dormers, roof decks, balconies or other additions introduced on
fronts of dwellings.These types of additions may be added on the rear or sides of
dwellings where not readily visible.
H. Should not have split cedar shakes, in most cases.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement,and design.Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the original siding
should be repaired to match the original,caulked and painted. If the "ghosts"or outlines
of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be replicated and
reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they should be recorded through
photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding.The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood based
materials such as particle board,gyp board,or press board.These materials generally
do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However,
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if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond repair,or missing,
substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are met:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be
smooth without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal
of original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds.
However, if no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,
corner boards, base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers.A
paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat guns
to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since this
can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck, unless
decking is greater than 39 inches in height from grade,than guard rail shall be 36 inches in
height from decking (second floor balconies).
2. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a%cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6"x6" newel posts with square
hipped caps.The top of the handrail should end in the columns on either side of the stair.
5. New columns shall be square 6"x6"with simple trim detail at top and bottom.
6. The new porch decking (found at rear porch and second floor balconies)shall be 1x4
tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house. Douglas fir, pressure treated
wood or composite material (recommended)is acceptable.
7. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed (at rear porch near garage),the treads
should be constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be
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bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch. % inch cove molding may be
installed under each tread.
8. All porch details shall match submitted architectural drawings.
9. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Siding
1. Upon removal of the substitute siding,Staff shall be consulted to conduct a condition
assessment and make a determination as to the percentage of damaged siding.
2. If more than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than replacement siding
in cedar shall be installed on the entire house with proper trim around windows,corner
boards, base boards,fascia boards and soffits under roof overhangs meeting the
following requirements:
a. The exposure of the exterior siding is no more than 4%-inch exposure.
b. Window trim be no less than 4 inches,with a top board and drip cap in a detail
approved by staff.
c. Corner boards are no less than 4 inches wide.
d. Base boards/water table be no less than 8 inches wide with a drip edge installed.
The water table with drip edge shall be constructed to run around the entire
building.
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
3. If less than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than the existing siding
shall be preserved/rehabilitated with the following requirements:
a. Damaged siding shall be repaired,epoxy preferred
b. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred
c. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements in kind to
match the original siding profile and exposure
d. All replacement wood material shall be clear(no knots),cedar preferred and
installed smooth side out
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
f. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners
and around doors and windows, which includes but not limited to the corner
boards and front window caps.
g. Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
Salomon Brito Jr and Carlos Santus were present for tonight's COA discussion:
New siding would be no greater than 4%" exposure. (1/2 thick 6" siding) made of clear smooth
cedar.
Ghost images/details may be found when the existing siding is removed. Various elements may
be unveiled as the existing siding is removed. Commission would request to see the details for
consideration and approval.
Window hood details along Prairie Street should be recreated to match the Chapel Street side
window hoods, if space is available. Trim details will need to be returned to original ghost
images if found. Both elevations are highly visible from the street,
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East porch would be totally removed. Proposing a two story porch for south and west
elevations. The posts from the east elevation should be saved/photographed for replication.
Cement foundation will remain. Porch will be constructed above the existing cement
foundation.
DORMER request withdrawn: Applicant withdrew request for dormer. Roof to be completed
roof with architectural shingles
Motion#1 made by Committee Member Savel to approve siding with the following conditions,
1) If other non-clapboard siding is found, GOA must return to the DRSC for commission review
and consideration;
2) If original clapboard siding is found under existing material(s), approved with staff comments
regarding siding,trim, etc.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion#2 made by Committee Member Diamond to approve porch work: A)demolishing East
rear porch and B) approve CONCEPT ONLY of 2 story porch for multi-tenant structure (open rail
design) with the following conditions: 1)columns and caps to be salvaged and used on
proposed south porch. If not salvageable, details to be replicated for the new porch
construction; 2) upper doors to be removed and filled with new smooth clear cedar siding to
match existing profile or install a wood windows matching in size,design and profile. Doors
removed are to be salvaged and reused elsewhere on the building if deemed appropriate by the
Historic Preservationist.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed 5-1 (Nay: Hunter).
General discussion and comments for porch concept noted that full plans must be returned for
commission review of details of(included, but not limited to):columns, balustrade, railings,
handrails,window hoods (which may be affected by the porch roof lines), raise porch floor on
Prairie St.
NEW BUSINESS:
279 Raymond Street—Installation of Driveway at side yard
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a
driveway at the east end of the property located at 279 Raymond Street,
The property is a lawful, non-conforming multi-unit residential property with a pre-existing
parking lot placed at the rear(north)of the property. The property was, until recently, provided
with vehicle use access through an access easement on the property to the south, and such
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flik access has since been removed.The applicant therefore intends to construct a dedicated access
driveway onto the property directly from Raymond Street without the need for the access
easement.
Construction of the driveway leading to the existing residential parking area located at the rear
of the property will cause the total vehicle use area to exceed what is allowed by the zoning
ordinance.The applicant is therefore requesting a variation of the zoning ordinance to allow for
the construction for the new driveway.
As mitigation for the requested variation,the application has proposed to reduce the existing
surface area of the residential parking area located at the rear of the property to the minimum
area that is required to park four vehicles.
Existing retaining walls will be also reduced to 1'-6" in height to help stabilize the yard while
restoring the historic slope of the yard. Poured concrete retaining walls will also be constructed
along the proposed driveway to accommodate the topography of the property.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Driveways
A. Should always be preserved in their original designs, materials, and placement.
B. Should be of brick,concrete,or concrete tracks (narrow strips) if it is a new or
r replacement driveway in the front or side yards.Asphalt or textured concrete
designed to look like brick pavers are also appropriate materials. Gravel driveways
are discouraged because gravel migrates and is difficult to maintain. If approved,
gravel driveways should have proper edging in brick, stone, concrete or metal
installed.
C. Should have their parking areas located behind the front building line and be
screened with hedges, shrubs,or fences where noticeable from the street.The
width of driveways in front of the building line should not exceed ten feet. In width,
sidewalks should not be constructed adjacent to the driveway and should be
distinguished by a landscaped barrier.
D. Should not be sited in front yards if of semi-circular or drive-thru design.
Retaining Walls
A. Should be preserved and maintained,if original to the dwelling (or built before
1945)
B. Should be of poured concrete(not concrete blocks)or in stone designs such as cut
stone, random rubble, coursed rubble,or cobblestones. Retaining walls of brick are
less appropriate but may be constructed. If constructed of artificial or cultured
stone,textures,colors,and random designs should replicate natural stone. If located
in front yards,the walls should be constructed using up to two courses and an
additional cap course, not to exceed twenty inches in height.
C. Should not be removed or replaced with new materials, if built before 1945.
D. Should not be built on the fronts of dwellings if constructed of timbers or railroad
filk ties.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. Front yard retaining wall shall be reduced in height to that of a kick wall (1'-6" maximum
height)and front yard re-graded to restore historic slope of original front yard.
2. Retaining wall shall be of poured concrete and shall have a sloped or curved top face of
the wall.The top face of the wall shall not be flat.
3. Retaining walls along front stairs shall slope with the stairs and then meet the height of
the kick wall.
4. Driveway shall be of concrete or asphalt material.
5. All other details to meet Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
6. Details shall match applicant's submitted drawings (civil drawings to be submitted when
variance is accepted). Staff to review drawings when submitted.
Maggie Guo(owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Brick porch was built around 1996(per John Roberson) prior property being into a historic
district.
Retaining wall should be parged to eliminate seams.
Motion mode by Committee Member Diamond to approve with staff comments and the
following: 1) parge surface of retaining wall, and 2) retaining wall is not to be painted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
257 Raymond Street—Replacement of 6 windows at 2"d floor due to fire
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
damaged windows at the 2"d floor of the property due to a fire.The proposed windows shall be
five (5) aluminum-clad wood,double-hung windows and one(1) casement window that fit the
existing window opening size.
A recent fire damaged the second floor windows, six total. Windows at the first floor were not
damaged and will remain. It was noted that the applicant will need to install an egress window
at a second floor bedroom (northwest elevation)that will be a casement with a simulated
meeting rail to be of the same size of profile of the other replacement windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
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B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design.Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage,excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood,deterioration due to rot or insect attack,and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as
their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Windows
1. That all windows shall be 1/1 double-hung,aluminum clad wood and must fit original
window openings.
2. The window replacements must match the profile and sizes of what would be typical of
historic windows.
3. The casement window shall have a simulated meeting rail applied to the exterior and
interior of the window that is the same dimension/size as the meeting rails found on the
other five, double-hung replacement windows.
4. Window glass shall not be tinted.
John Shay(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
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Casement window in bedroom is needed for egress on NW side of home. Casement window
needs to have a meeting rail to give appearance of double hung window due to visibility.
Replacing existing windows that were installed about 15-20 years ago.
Motion mode by Committee Member Diamond to approve with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
320 Watch Court—Installation of canopies at entrances
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove
existing aluminum siding and replace with vinyl siding and exterior trim; construction of new
canopies at main entrances; and installation of new monument sign to be located at the corner
of Watch Street and the court used to access the other buildings.
The property has five apartment buildings with four dwelling units in each building. None of the
buildings contribute to the historic or architectural character of the Elgin National Watch
Historic District.
The complex was constructed in 1968.The building exteriors are a combination of brick and
aluminum siding.
The applicant is seeking recommendations and specifications for monument sign as it has not
yet been designed.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary, wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings,the original
siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the"ghosts" or
outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be
replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced, they should be recorded
through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle siding
is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with wood or
other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous material
guidelines.
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0. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or
aluminum,if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-based
materials such as particleboard,gyp board, or pressboard. These materials generally do
not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However, if
more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond repair, or missing,
substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather,cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards,base boards, molding
and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as closely as
possible. The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to prevent moisture
damage.
rNew Construction—Primary Buildings
A. Should maintain, not disrupt,the existing pattern surrounding historic buildings along
the street by being similar in:
1. Shape.Variations of asymmetrical, rectangular and square forms are most
appropriate for the locally designated districts;
2. Scale(height and width) New construction should not vary more than one-half
story from the predominate building height typical of dwellings along a block. in
most blocks of the designated districts would require new construction to be no
more than two-and-one-half stories;
3. Orientation to the street. Most dwellings in Elgin's locally designated districts
have their primary facades and main entrances oriented towards the street and
this characteristic should be maintained in any new construction;
4. Roof shape and pitch. Roof slope ration for new construction should be a
minimum of 6:12 to a maximum of 12:12. Roof forms of gable and hipped
variations are more common on most blocks than roof forms which are flat,
mansard or gambrel forms;
5. Location and proportion of porches,entrances and divisional bays. Porches
should have roof forms of gable, hipped or shed design and at least cover the
entrance. Porches extending partially or fully across the front of the building are
recommended. Porches should have columns and railings with balusters that are
traditional in design and compatible with the overall character of the building;
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Signs and Graphic Designs—Residential Areas
A. Should also follow regulations subject to the provisions of Chapter 19.50 of the city's
zoning ordinance.
B. Should be kept to a minimum with preferably a maximum of two per commercial
business or community facility.
C. Should have no more than three colors and use colors that coordinate with the building
colors.
D. Should be anchored into mortar, not the masonry,
E. Should be traditional materials such as finished wood, glass, copper,or bronze,
plywood, plastic, or unfinished wood
F. Should not cover or obscure architectural features
G. Should not be backlit or internally lit
H. Should not be illuminated with visible bulbs, flashing lights, or luminous paints, but with
remove sources.
Staff Recommendation:
The subject property is listed as a non-contributing structure in the survey of the Elgin National
Watch Historic District. Therefore,it is recommended that the proposed work be approved as
submitted.
Adam Templer,Jim Kolback and Damon Duncan were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Original aluminum &brick exterior building materials. The exposed profile would be replaced
in kind (same profile). Fish scales would be put back in above the porches. Vinyl siding for a
non-contributing structure.
Motion#1 made by Committee Member Savel to approve siding.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion#2 made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as porch/canopy details.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
Note: Signage is possible on the site, however details must be submitted with a COA
application for approval.
316-322 Division Street—Installation of fence in front yard to hide garbage totes
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
install a new 4'-0" solid fence in the street yard along Division to hide six (6) garbage totes.
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rbk The property is located on a corner lot and the property owner was recently cited for not
storing garbage totes so they could not be seen from the public way.The building is built within
1'-0"of the north and east property lines and does not have ample space to store totes at these
locations.
The proposed location of fence and totes would be at the east side of the front porch,at
location of electricity meters.
Per the Historic District Guidelines, privacy fences shall be located at the rear corner of the
building. If a fence is located past this point in a side yard,then it shall be 50%open with a
maximum height of 42 inches.To note,if the fence is built per these specifications,they will not
hide the garbage totes.Garbage tote heights include:41.75H x 24.25W x 31.75D
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Fences
A. Should be proportionate to the house and the design should be compatible with the
character of the building and district.
B. Should be painted white or a trim color related to the house, never left to weather or
given a stain finish.
C. Of cast iron or other material of original design should be preserved.
D. Of cast iron may be added to buildings constructed in the late 19th and early 20th
century. Cast iron fences are generally not appropriate for dwellings built after 1920.
E. If placed along common property lines should not be placed against another fence-
double line fencing is not permitted.
F. Should have posts that are set a minimum of 30 inches below grade and no more than
eight feet apart.
G. If wood, be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine, cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
H. That has a decorative gate or arbors must be submitted with a drawing complete with
dimensions.
Fences in Front Yards
I. Should be no higher than 36 inches with the posts being slightly higher and having caps
J. Should have pickets no wider than four inches with spacing between boards a minimum
of one inch up to the width of the board depending on the design of the fence.
K. If applicable to the layout, should have a minimum of corner posts end posts and gate
posts which are slightly taller than the fence and five to ten inches thick with a cap and
finial. Line posts can be visible and decorative to compliment the main posts or be
hidden behind the picket design. Fences which cross a driveway or walkway should
have gate posts. Gates should be designed to swing onto the private walkway or
driveway, not onto the public sidewalk.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted,since the height and style of
the fence in the front yards does not meet the height requirements of the Elgin Design
Guideline Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
If the height of the fence is approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review
Subcommittee recommend the following.
1. The fencing shall be a maximum of 4'-0" high.
2. The fencing shall be painted to match the color of the house.
3. The fence shall be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine,cypress or other rot
resistant wood.
4. Installation of landscape material (shrubs including evergreens for year-round
screening)to be planted in front of the fence to screen it.
Andrew Cuming(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Placement on site is limited due to corner lot and building being located within inches/feet of
lot lines on both the north and east property lines. Garbage totes are 41.75"tall.
Landscaping in front of fencing would soften the appearance from the street.
Owner would like to install picket fence with no spacing. Commission would like design style to
be presented.
Commission suggested setting the fence about a foot back from the porch line.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff's final approval of design
details to include:
1) 42" high fence to be paint to match principal color of building, 2) hip design cap—
maximum 4"high, 3) Balstrade style with closed pickets, and 4)fence line to be set back
one (1)foot from eastern place of structure.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Mayors's awards on May 3rd at the Haight Building.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Hunter.
rThe motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
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The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, ,i�
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Cindy A. W:Ide Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
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Notice of Cancellation of Meeting
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
For the regularly scheduled meeting for
May 10, 2016
The regularly scheduled meeting of Tuesday, May 10, 2016, has been canceled due no items
rbeing submitted for consideration.
Our next meeting will be our regularly scheduled meeting date of May 24, 2016, at 6:00 p.m.,
Second Floor, City Council Chambers, North Wing, City Hall, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120.
Should you have any questions regarding the posting of this cancellation notice, please contact
the staff liaison Christen Sundquist at 847-931-6004.
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, May 24, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 12, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 55 S. Liberty Street—2nd floor stairway to be repaired
2. 413 Douglas Avenue—Window Replacement
3. 400 Arlington Ave— Installation of two dormers
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-56161
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
May 24, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:01 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall)by Vice-Chairman Roberson.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, and Scott Save!
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
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PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
55 S Liberty Street—2"d floor stairway to be repaired
413 Douglas Avenue—Window Replacement
400 Arlington Avenue—Installation of two dormers
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were presented for review.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
SS S Liberty Street—2nd floor stairway to be repaired
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to repair and
add more appropriate architectural elements to exterior stair that leads up to the 2"d floor
apartment.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass,or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level,if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
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C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. 2nd floor stair elements (balusters, handrails,bottom rails,and newel posts)shall match
the submitted specifications.
2. The top and bottom rails shall be sloped/chamfered.
3. Baluster spacing shall be a maximum of 2.5 inches.
4. All exterior second floor stair details shall be primed and painted.
Kathy Klink(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner prefers the Victorian spindle design.
Other exterior railings on the property: Black metal on top of garage to swimming pool to the
east. Pool is not visible from the street.
Base at bottom of proposed staircase replacement can be constructed of wood or PVC. Must
leave space from decking to bottom of railing. Stairs may be require raisers by Code to be
enclosed, not sure. Staff will discuss with Plan Examiner for determination.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as with staff comments and the
following: 1) add chamfered cap to post before placement of ball; 2)ball to be 4.5-5" diameter
(no oval design); and 3)bottom base(height to be determined by staff) to have a chamfered
edge.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
413 Douglas Avenue--Window replacement
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request to replace all of the
second floor and attic windows due to issues with energy efficiency(air infiltration)and the
presence of lead paint.
The applicant has proposed to install the following:
1. 3 attic,casement windows to be replaced with twin double-hung windows at each
location.At the west elevation,the proposed window will be of wood and the north and
south elevations,the proposed windows will be aluminum-clad;
2. 1,second floor bathroom window at the north elevation proposed to be replaced with
aluminum-clad;
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3. 1,second floor laundry room window at the north elevation proposed to be replaced
with aluminum-clad;
4. 3,second floor bedroom windows at the east elevation proposed to be replaced with
aluminum-clad;
5. 1, second floor bedroom window at the south elevation proposed to be replaced with
aluminum-clad;
6. 4, second floor bedroom windows at the west elevation proposed to be replaced with
wood.
To note,the applicant is also proposing to replace the fixed windows found at the closets(both
at east elevation)and the fixed windows found at second floor bedroom at the west elevation
(2)with awning windows to provide more ventilation in these spaces.
Staff conducted a site inspection on May 11, 2016.At that time,Staff assessed the window
condition and determined that the windows were in good to fair condition.The attic windows
found at the north,south and west elevations are not original to the home and are in poor
condition.The south, bedroom window is not original to the home.The window is a Jeld-wen
insert window.The applicant noted that they are planning on restoring the rope and balances
at this location.
The applicant has submitted three replacement cost estimates for review.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood,deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
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G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted. Staff
would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. All 2"d floor window replacements to be in-kind,The replacement windows must fit
the window opening, match the existing windows'material (wood), profile, design,
and dimensions.
2. Window glass shall not be tinted.
Staff cannot recommend approval of design of the front(west facade) 2"d story,fixed windows
nor the east closet,fixed windows as the proposed design (awning) does not meet the design
requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline Manual for replacement windows (replacement to
be in-kind).
Should the Design Review Subcommittee approve the proposed awning windows at these
locations,then staff would recommend the following:
1. That the windows match the existing in material,profile, design,size and must fit
original window openings.
2. Window glass shall not be tinted.
Paul Haske(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Addition on south elevation was installed in the 1960's. Total of 13 windows to be replaced.
Northside is bath & laundry room,which would be replaced with aluminum clad exterior. Lead
abatement is the principal reason for replacement by the homeowner.
DRSC has no jurisdiction regarding lead abatement. Lead paint can be removed, windows
repaired.Typically new construction windows are not used, Should be done with sash
replacement window(saving existing exterior trim). Tempered glass is allowable. Wood
windows must meet the window profile requirements (sills, stiles, meeting rails, and bottom
stool).
No bid was submitted for restoration.
Aluminum clad alter the original structure"visual" appearance. Finger jointed replacement
wood windows are known to fail quickly.
Decorative trim and hoods need to repaired or replaced in kind; requiring a separate COA
approval.
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rFixed attic windows could be replaced with awning style windows, meeting the same profile as
the existing windows.
Withdrawal: Applicant withdrew the request for aluminum cladding. All window replacements
would be solid wood windows.
Motion made by Committee Member Diamond to approve with staff comments and the
following: 1)Awning windows to match profile;2a)All wood windows to match,sash,profile,
meeting rails,styles within 1/8" (staff to review final details), b)Stools must be"one" solid
piece of wood. No finger joints;and 3)exterior trim to match original ghost/shadows,if any
are found.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Save!.
The motion passed unanimously.
400 Arlington Avenue—Installation of two dormers
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to install two (2)dormers located
on the south elevation of the house.The proposed dormers are designed to borrow elements
found on the existing,east elevation dormer.
The dormer design and height has been proposed to accommodate Code requirements for an
interior renovation project that was constructed without permits in the attic by the previous
owner.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications
Dormers
F. should be over skylights in highly visible portions of the roof.
G. should be constructed as two gables and a connector, if larger in volume.
H. should not occupy more than fifty percent of the slope of the roof of which is being
constructed and should be trimmed out in the style of the house. They should be
designed and located for as not to detract from the character of the roof.
Staff Recommendation
Although the proposed design does not align completely with the height of the original, east
elevation dormer, Staff has consulted with the Plans Examiner and given the nature of the
project and Code requirements,the proposed height of the dormer is the only option.
Therefore,staff recommends approval of the COA with the following condition:
1. The dormer casement windows shall have a simulated meeting rail to be affixed on the
exterior and the interior of the window to mimic that of a double-hung found
throughout the home.
Liz&Shepherd Kirk(owners)and Rick Browne(architect)were present for tonight's COA
Cdiscussion:
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Stairs and windows required for egress. Work was done by prior owner without permits.
There are 1920 style bungalows that do not have meeting rails on their windows.
Applicant willing to have single dormer on each side of the roof to give symmetry. Alignment
would be done using the lower windows on each side, not the length of the structure.
Large dormer over front porch was considered, but it is over a porch which is unheated and
would require additional floor supports too. Committee members also acknowledged the
removing the original dormer would not be favorable by the committee. Front dormer should
remain as is.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments and with the
following conditions: 1)casement window with faux meeting rail; 2) larger matching dormers
on each side(north and south). Dormer to be centered over south elevation (as shown)and
north elevation (over the double hung windows next to the interior staircase).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cindy A. alt •n Approved:
Design R "- Subcommittee Secretary
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,June 14, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 12, 2016
2. April 26, 2016
3. May 24, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 625 N. Spring Street—Reconstruction of front porch
2. 18 N. Chapel Street— Installation of pergola in rear yard to cover existing deck
3. 125 Hilton Place—Installation of shed at rear yard
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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of the Elgin Heritage Commission
June 14, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Save!, and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
625 N Spring Street—Reconstruction of front porch
18 N Chapel Street—Installation of pergola in rear yard to cover existing deck
125 Hilton Place—Installation of shed at rear yard
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Hunter to approve the minutes of April 26, 2016, as
amended (pg. 15 balustrade style fence with closed pickets, setback 1'from building plane).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve the minutes of May 24, 2016, as
amended (headers: May 24; pg. 5 should be done with sash replacement window, saving
existing trim;and spelling of"stiles").
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 5-0-1. (Abstain: Weidmeyer)
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
625 N Spring Street—Reconstruction of front porch
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to reconstruct
the front porch with historically appropriate elements including new columns with brackets,
skirting and porch stairs.
The applicant received approval by the Design Review Subcommittee at their regular scheduled
meeting on September 24, 2013 to remove the existing, non-historic front porch with
intentions to construct a porch that is more historically appropriate to the home.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
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B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch deck shall be rebuilt in the same footprint as currently constructed.
2. The porch skirting may be constructed as proposed (1x4 vertical boards spaced 1 inch a
part with a top rimboard as a 1x6 or 1x8 and a bottom rimboard as a 1x4) with care taken
to ensure that the porch floor overhangs the skirting frame board by no less than 1 inch.
3. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides and
overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material is
acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)to
adhere board to framing.
4. The flooring shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house.
Pressure treated wood or composite materials (recommended) is acceptable.
5. All other details shall match the attached drawing.
6. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Abraham Miller(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
r Illustration of north elevation indicated a window,which homeowner and staff acknowledge is
not located there.
Flat roof with mansard edge. Examples can be seen at 514 Douglas&205 N Gifford.
Bracket and corbel elements will be installed.
Under the roofline,fascia with crown molding. Bed molding from soffit to header and around
the corbels.
If gutters are installed,they should be% round design.
Skirting is low to the ground. Recommend 1x6 top board and 1x4 bottom board with 1x6 sides
and post coverings.
Tongue and groove decking length will require more than one joist.
Stop chamfers on corners.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve concept with staff and committee
comments. Porch details to be brought back for final approval by committee.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Save!.
The motion passed unanimously.
18 N Chapel Street—installation of pergola in rear yard to cover existing deck
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application for the
following:
1. Remove existing decking at front porch and install Aeratis (PVC decking) tongue and
rgroove;
2. Remove existing decking at rear patio and install Composite Trex decking
3. Wrap existing posts with LP Smartside to match existing details
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4. Construction of pergola to cover rear patio
a. Pergola will be built with cedar
b. 3 columns will install to support pergola and will have details to match front
porch columns
c. All porch elements will be painted by homeowner
The decking at the front porch is noted to be in fair to poor condition.The Owner has requested
to install a PVC tongue and groove material at this location.
The pergola will be installed over the existing rear patio that abuts the rear addition of the
home.The pergola will be minimally visible from the street.The applicant specified that the
existing newel posts and balustrade will remain.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
rdecorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
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Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property.Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
Pergolas,Arbors,Gazebos, Fountains,Tree Houses, Ponds and Statuary
A. Should be sited in rear yards or side yards
B. Should be of wood construction in designs appropriate for pre-1945 dwellings. Yard
features constructed of materials such as glass,metal or brick can be placed in yards
if situated near the rear of the lot and effectively screened by fencing or
landscaping.
C. Should not be located in street yards.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Front Porch
1. The porch deck shall be rebuilt in the same footprint as currently constructed.
2. The flooring shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house.
Pressure treated wood or composite materials(recommended) is acceptable.
3. The flooring shall overhang the skirting frame board by no less than 1 inch and shall be
bull-nosed
4. All other details shall match the attached specifications.
5. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Rear Patio/Pergola
1. The patio deck shall be installed perpendicular to the house. Pressure treated wood or
composite materials(recommended) is acceptable.
2. The flooring shall overhang the frame board by no less than 1 inch
3. The columns shall have brackets to match the submitted specifications/photographs
4. If the balustrade is to be reconstructed the following shall apply:
a. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, %" cove, 2x2 square,
decorative balusters to match existing in style, with a maximum of 3"on center.
That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered edges, installed 2" above finished
floor.
b. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck.
5. All other details shall match the attached drawings.
6. All patio/pergola details shall be primed and painted.
Glena&Mark Preradovic(owner)and Mike Howell & Frank Delongcker were present for
tonight's COA discussion:
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Rear decking, piers and trellis:
Pergola will have Trex 5/4 decking(non-tongue and groove),since it is locate on the rear of the
structure and not visible from the street view. Deck will extend about 1'greater in depth from
house to allow for new piers to be installed. Width of the rear deck will not be increased.
Newel posts will be wrapped in smooth smart siding.
Total of eight(8)scroll brackets will be installed.
Front porch decking:
Only the decking will be changed out with texture side up. Stair trends will remain as is. Half
round bullnose will be installed on edges of decking. Both decking and edges will be painted.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff comments and staff to
approve final design of brackets.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel
The motion passed unanimously.
125 Hilton Place—Installation of shed at rear yard
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to remove an existing
rshed located at the rear property and install an E-Z build, 10'x16'frame shed in the similar
location as the existing.
The existing shed is in fair to poor condition.The proposed shed is to be constructed in the
southeast area of the property.The shed will be approximately 160 sq.ft with a roof peak
height of 8'-0". It will be constructed of wood with a gable roof.
The proposed shed will be visible from the public way.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling;clearly secondary in nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts.These include at rear lot lines,adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco,or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street,
rsecondary buildings may have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement
fiber board with appropriate trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
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row. F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel.Wood
paneled overhead roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new
garages. For two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is
acceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not
be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for the removal of the existing shed and installation of the
proposed shed as it is set far enough back (100'-0")from the public way and contains a gable
roof and wood construction that is similar in design to the existing home.The following
conditions shall apply for approval:
1. The shed shall be primed and painted with colors to complement the existing home's
paint scheme.
Ebelin Tapia (owner)and Erica Solano were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Siding spacing preferred at no greater than 4".
One or two window openings should be added to break up the large space along the west
elevation. Window should be about 20"x20"with 4"trim on all sides. The window(s)can be
operational or"painted" black/dark gray to mimic a window pane.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments and the following
conditions: 1)siding no greater than 4"spacing;and 2) installation of one 20"x20"window
(real or faux)with 4" wide trim,functioning or none functioning opening to be determined by
owner.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Next meeting a representative from IP siding will be providing a presentation to the
committee.
ADDITIOANAL COMMENTS:
Chairman Wiedmeyer acknowledged the house blessing done recently at the Habitat for
Humanity house on St. Charles St. Recommends staff and committee to look at the
improvement if they happen to be in the area. Praises given to Habitat for a job well done.
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ii / f;
Cindy A.411 den Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary June 28, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,June 28, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 12, 2016
2. June 14, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 582 Park Street—Installation of balustrade and stair handrails
2. 103 S. Gifford St— Recladding of free-standing kindergarten classroom structure
3. 323 Wellington Ave—Reconstruction of front porch stairs and handrails
4. 352 Prairie St— Residing with cedar; installation of missing architectural elements
G. Other
1. LP Smart Siding Representative - Brian Daley
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
June 28, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:04 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter and Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of June 14, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Brian Daley—LP Corporation
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
582 Park Street—Installation of balustrade and stair handrails
103 S Gifford St—Recladding of free-standing kindergarten classroom structure
323 Wellington Ave—Reconstruction of front porch stairs and handrails
352 Prairie St—Residing with cedar; installation of missing architectural elements
ITEMS TABLED:
103 S Gifford St—Recladding of free-standing kindergarten classroom structure;due to non-
representation.
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NEW BUSINESS:
582 Park St—Installation of balustrade and stair handrails
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to restore or
replace the following:
1. Complete restoration of missing features at front porch
a. Installation of goose-neck railing at stairs
b. Installation of balustrade including the following elements
i. 2 x 2 square spindles
ii. 2 x 41 chamfered top and bottom rail with %" cove molding to run full
length of handrail installed on both sides of spindles
c. Installation of 1x4 tongue and groove composite decking
Installation of porch columns and curved roof above porch was approved by the Design Review
Subcommittee on April 28, 2015.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Architectural Details and Features
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced
B. Should not be removed or altered if original to the building
C. Should not be covered or concealed with vinyl, aluminum or other substitute
rmaterial
D. Should not be added unless there is physical, pictorial,or historical evidence that
such features were original to the house or consistent with the style which would
allow them to be added to the house.These features should match the original in
materials,scale, location, proportions,form,and detailing
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
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F H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats,or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the decorative porch elements shall be restored rather than replaced. Elements
beyond repair, shall follow conditions below.
2. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges,%" cove, 2x2 square,
decorative balusters to match existing in style,with a maximum of 3"on center.That the
bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered edges,installed 2" above finished floor.
3. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed,the treads shall be 5/4"x 12
(recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides and overhang the risers a minimum of
1". Pressure treated wood or composite material is acceptable. When using pressure
treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to deter any future cupping of the
board. Use 3-4 deck screws(ceramic coated preferable)to adhere board to framing.
4. The flooring shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house.
Pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is acceptable.
5. The porch skirting may be reconstructed as proposed with care taken to ensure that the
porch floor overhangs the skirting frame board by no less than 1 inch. The skirting shall
have a 1x8 vertical board directly beneath the columns and at the corners of the porch
skirting with a 1x4 bottom rimboard and a top rim board to match the size of the existing
1x6 or 1x8.
6. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
7. All front and rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
Jim Langenberg (owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Porch constructed in 1992. Two concrete piers to the east. Decking of porch needs to be done
too. Request for composite material for longevity. Curved section of handrail will need to be
done by a contractor. Skirting is very good shape.
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Spindle may have been square, difficult to tell from original photo. Turned or square spindles
would be appropriate. Commission would prefer gooseneck railings, however a straight
handrail would be appropriate for the style of the house. Gooseneck design with square
spindles would look best. Spindles and handrail to be a hard wood material (treated lumber,
cedar,cypress,etc).
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve with staff comments and the
following amendments: 1)gooseneck railing not required (option to install gooseneck railing
system should homeowner decided to move forward, design to be approved by staff),
2)serpentine railing for front staircase,3)composite tongue and groove flooring.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
103 S Gifford St—Recladding of free-standing kindergarten classroom structure
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve table request due to non-representation.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
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323 Wellington Ave—Reconstruction of front porch stairs and handrails
Per staff,this item was withdrawn by the applicant (Todd Payne)
352 Prairie St—Residing with cedar; installation of missing architectural elements
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following:
1. Reconstruction of Prairie Street porch;
2. Removal of substitute siding;
3. Restoration of original siding or installation of fiber cement siding dependent on original
siding condition;
4. Restoration of side(Chapel Street)and rear porch;
5. Tear-off and reroof with reconstruction of Prairie Street dormer
The existing siding is of a substitute material and not original to the home.The applicant has
indicated their interest in removal of the substitute siding and replacement with fiber cement
board.
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Staff conducted a site assessment on May 18, 2016.At that time,the condition of the windows,
porches and siding were assessed. Restoration of the windows is not proposed at this time.
Staff performed a quick assessment of the siding and found that that the original siding appears
to have been removed when the substitute siding was installed on the property.
However, staff has advised the applicant that the Design Guidelines permit the installation of
new siding(wood or fiber cement)over the entire building only if more than 50%of the original
siding is missing,damaged and beyond repair. Staff has advised the applicant that once the
non-original siding is removed any architectural features that can be restored as per the
building's shadow lines will be required.
Somewhere between 1913 and 1950,the original 1-story wrap around porch was removed and
a small two story side porch (Chapel Street) was constructed as well as a full width,two story
porch located on Prairie Street. An older image found in Steve Stroud's "There Used to Be,"Vol.
2, shows the small,two-story side porch and the full width,two story porch in what may have
been its original design when the porches were built (1913-1950).
To note,the applicant's submitted porch design is similar to an approved concept design that
was reviewed by the Design Review Subcommittee on July 27, 2010. However, the applicant is
unable to complete the 2010 proposed wrap around porch, but noted that this is a possibility in
the future.
Applicant noted that the concrete stairs and landings at the side porch (Chapel Street)and front
porch (Prairie Street)will remain.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
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I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained, Where repair is required,use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Roofs
A. Should be retained in their original shape and pitch,with original features (such as
cresting, chimneys,finals,cupolas,etc.),and, if possible,with original roof materials.
B. Should be re-roofed with substitute materials such as asphalt or fiberglass shingles if
the original materials are no longer present or if the retention of the original roof
material is not economically feasible.
C. Should be in appropriate colors such as dark grey, black, brown or shades of dark
red; red or green may also be appropriate for Craftsman/Bungalow period dwellings
for new asphalt or fiberglass shingled roofs.
D. Should have sawn cedar shingles added only after a complete tear-off of the existing
roof materials is completed.This is necessary to provide adequate ventilation and
proper drying of the roof during wet conditions.
E. Should have soldered metal panels added as the surface material,if the roof is flat. If
not readily visible,rolled composition or EPDM (rolled rubber) roofing materials are
acceptable.
F. Should have proper water-tight flashing at junctions between roofs and walls,
around chimneys, skylights,vent pipes,and in valleys and hips where two planes of a
roof meet. Metal flashing should be used instead of the application of caulking
material or bituminous coating,which can deteriorate due to weathering and allow
moisture damage
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G. Should not have new dormers, roof decks, balconies or other additions introduced
on fronts of dwellings.These types of additions may be added on the rear or sides of
dwellings where not readily visible.
H. Should not have split cedar shakes, in most cases.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,
wood siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to
match the original in size, placement, and design.Wood that has been concealed
beneath synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired
and the synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the
original siding should be repaired to match the original,caulked and painted. If the
"ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should
generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they
should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding.The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood
based materials such as particle board,gyp board, or press board.These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair, or missing,substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be
smooth without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however,natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal
of original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds.
However, if no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,
corner boards, base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
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rik Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical
removers.A paint shaver may be used,but with caution so as to avoid removal of
wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat
guns to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since
this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck, unless
decking is greater than 39 inches in height from grade,than guard rail shall be 36 inches
in height from decking(second floor balconies).
2. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
The handrail shall have a% cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The balusters should be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6"x6" newel posts with square
hipped caps.The top of the handrail should end in the columns on either side of the
stair.
5. New columns shall be square 6"x6"with simple trim detail at top and bottom.
6. The new porch decking(found at rear porch and second floor balconies)shall be 1x4
tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the house. Douglas fir, pressure
treated wood or composite material(recommended) is acceptable.
7. If the stairs are proposed to be reconstructed (at rear porch near garage),the treads
should be constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should
be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch. %inch cove molding may be
installed under each tread.
8. All porch details shall match submitted architectural drawings.
9. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Siding
1. Upon removal of the substitute siding,Staff shall be consulted to conduct a condition
assessment and make a determination as to the percentage of damaged siding.
2. If more than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than replacement siding
in cedar or fiber cement board siding shall be installed on the entire house with proper
trim around windows,corner boards,base boards,fascia boards and soffits under roof
overhangs meeting the following requirements:
a. The exposure of the exterior siding is no more than 4%-inch exposure.
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b. Window trim be no less than 4 inches,with a top board and drip cap in a detail
approved by staff.
c. Corner boards are no less than 4 inches wide.
d. Base boards/water table be no less than 8 inches wide with a drip edge installed.
The water table with drip edge shall be constructed to run around the entire
building.
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
3. If less than 50%of the original siding appears to be damaged,than the existing siding
shall be preserved/rehabilitated with the following requirements:
a. Damaged siding shall be repaired, epoxy preferred
b. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred
c. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements in kind to
match the original siding profile and exposure
d. All replacement wood material shall be clear (no knots), cedar preferred and
installed smooth side out
e. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed
f. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners
and around doors and windows,which includes but not limited to the corner
boards and front window caps.
Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
("4 Salomon Brito,Jr (owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner has requested to install an operable window on the south elevation on the upper lever.
Commission felt window would be allowable if centered over lower door.
Really wide sheating boards proposed (18").
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments and the following
amendments: 1) upper operable window to be no wider than% -%of the existing upper
windows height and window width to be determined by staff, 2)corner boards 5/4 x 6"to be
installed (padded if needed)to set proud of siding, 3)tear drop molding or Y rounds on outer
edges of corner boards.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
LP Smart Siding Presentation
Brian Daley(Market Development Manager)explained LP's Smart Siding began in 1996. It is an
engineered wood product which is available is smooth or textured finishes in a variety of widths
and lengths. Although the back of the products looks like OSB(Oriented strand board),they are
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not constructed the same manner. LP Smart Siding is made from hard woods, were as OSB is
made from soft woods.
Manufacturer has many stipulations that are required not to void warranty of product.
Samples were left for commissioners to perform their own testing of cutting,treatment of
edges,etc.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 8:47 p.m.
Respectful y submitted,
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Cindy A.W I n Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary July 12, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,July 12, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 12, 2016
2. June 28, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 103 S. Gifford St—Recladding of free-standing kindergarten classroom structure
2. 625 N. Spring Street—Reconstruction of front porch
F. New Business
1. 323 Wellington Avenue— Replace front 2nd floor windows and central mullion
2. 119 Hilton Place— Removal and salvage of porch elements to be installed in 2017
3. 811 Brook Street—Removal of fixed window at 1970s addition and replace with two
casement windows
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,July 26, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. July 12, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 608 E. Chicago Street— Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
2. 821 Brook Street—Removal of 1990 addition and install new addition in same
footprint at rear of property
3. 381 Park Street—Replacement of collapsed masonry foundation wall
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
July 26, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Vice Chairman Roberson.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson and Scott Savel.
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Dennis Roxworthy and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were presented for consideration.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
608 E Chicago St—Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
821 Brook St—Removal of 1990 addition and install new addition in same footprint at rear of
property
381 Park St—Replacement of collapsed masonry foundation wall
ITEMS TABLED:
608 E Chicago St—Tabled due to non-representation.
NEW BUSINESS:
608 E Chicago St--Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
rProperty manager contacted staff earlier today indicating she nor the property owner could
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attend tonight. Applicant requested COA to be heard at the next DRSC meeting.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to table COA due to non-representation.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
821 Brook St—Removal of 1990 addition and install new addition in same footprint at rear of
property
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request for demolition and
reconstruction of rear, 1990s addition with an addition in the same location, no change in size.
Rear addition demolition/reconstruction:The applicant has advised staff and staff has
confirmed that the addition was installed in 1990.The applicant noted that the addition is
allowing water and air to infiltrate into the home.The applicant has requested permission to re-
build the addition with same floor layout and flat roof line with the exception of installing two
pitched skylights for additional light into the interior space.
The scope of work at the addition includes installing the following:
1. 12'-0"x 8'-0" Marvin Ultimate Sliding Patio Door(east elevation)
2. 12'-0"x 5'-4" (4)Marvin Ultimate Wide Casement Windows(south elevation)
3. 12'-0"x 1'-2" (4)Marvin Ultimate Wide Awning Windows (south elevation)
4. 3'-0"x 5'-O" (1)Marvin Ultimate Aluminum-Clad Double Hung window(east elevation)
5. Installation of(2)Velux Fixed Curb-Mount 3030 (35"x 35")skylights.They skylights will
be raised 6 inches off of the roof membrane and angled with its highest height at 1'-0"
to ensure water runoff.
The applicant is also requesting to remove (1)existing window on the larger addition at the rear
(east elevation)and replace with a Marvin Ultimate aluminum-clad wood double-hung window
to match the proposed window found at the proposed addition.The applicant noted that this is
to ensure that the windows on the interior match.The existing window at this location is in
good condition.
To note,this area is not original to the home as it does not exist on the 1950 Sanborn Fire
Insurance Map. However, it was installed between 1950 and 1973.
The proposed addition is at the rear and minimally visible from the main thoroughfare and will
not be visible from the alley to the east.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Additions
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler)than the original dwelling in scale,design,
and placement.
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( C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials, color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights, etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design.Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack,and
cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as
their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Demolition
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler)than the original dwelling in scale, design,
and placement.
C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials,color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights, etc.
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rD. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for each COA request as follows and with the following
conditions:
Rear/Sunroom Addition:
1. The siding shall be cedar shingles to match the existing found at the main house and
larger addition.
2. That the windows match the submitted specifications/drawings.
3. The windows may have low-E glass, but may not contain tint.
4. The double-hung window shall contain simulated divided lites (6/6)with spacer bar
(recommended)or simulated divided lites to give the illusion of a true divided lite
window.
5. The trim on all windows must match the existing window trim found on the main home.
6. Wood step at east elevation shall have a tread of 5/4"x 12(recommended) or 2x12 and
bull-nosed on 3 sides and overhang the riser a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or
fillik composite material is acceptable.When using pressure treated wood for the stair
treads, paint every side to deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws
(ceramic coated preferable)to adhere board to framing.
7. Per the Historic District Design Guidelines,skylights shall be flat or flush with the
roofline. However,given that the skylights are proposed to be installed on a flat roof
and will be installed at the rear of the property,staff recommends approval of the
submitted specifications to ensure no ponding at the skylight locations.
8. All other details shall match the drawing.
9. All elements shall be primed and painted.
Window at larger, 1950-1973 addition:
Staff cannot recommend replacement of the existing window at the larger addition as it is in
good condition. However,this addition is not original to the home and it is at the rear of the
property not able to be seen from the public way.
Should the Design Review Subcommittee agree that the overall consistency of the window
profile with the new window at the proposed addition would be best served by the
replacement of the window at the 1950-1973 addition,then staff would recommend the
following:
1. That the proposed 6/6 aluminum clad wood replacement window fit the existing
opening,is as close of a match as possible to the existing window profiles (sash
dimensions, light/window pane patterns,etc.)that fit the existing opening.
2. The window shall be double-pane,low-E glass,but may not contain tint.
r3. The window shall contain simulated divided lites(6/6)with spacer bar (recommended)
or simulated divided lites to give the illusion of a true divided lite window.
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The trim on the replacement window must match the existing window trim (sill, stiles,flat
stock,etc.) and may not have modern brick mould.
Jim Stendler(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Prior owner had used the "addition"for a hot tub. Due to interior layout of the addition, a
double hung(6 over 6)window and double slider doors would be installed on the east
elevation. A second window on the east elevation will also be changed out to match the new(6
over 6)window. Windows will have divided lites within the two panes. Both 6 over 6 windows
will be wood with aluminum cladding,due to south and east exposures.
Header on the addition will decrease in size due to the height of the double slider doors.
Commission acknowledged the demolition of the addition request is insignificant to the
principal structure. Only slightly visible from any public right of way. Uniformity of the
aluminum clad windows on a non-original portion of the house would be appropriate.
Additionally,a 5' high fence is being installed which will make the replacement addition even
more difficult to see from the public right of way.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve the COA with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
r" The motion passed unanimously.
381 Park St—Replacement of collapsed masonry foundation wall
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request to reconstruct collapsed
foundation wall at the west elevation with cast-in-place concrete, brick veneer (used from
salvaged brick on the property)and installation of windows to match the window openings that
were existing prior to the foundation collapse.
The foundation wall collapsed during a heavy rainstorm on June 23, 2016.The north,east and
south foundation walls are in stable condition and will remain.The west elevation foundation
wall is the only area proposed to be reconstructed.
The applicant was given an example of a double-hung window specifying historic dimensions.
The applicant noted that they will be replacing all the windows in the basement to match the
historic window dimensions found in the example window drawing. The proposed windows will
be aluminum-clad wood windows. However, no specifications have been submitted at this time
as the owner stated he will install windows that meet the Design Review Subcommittee
guidelines and will follow the historic dimensions found in the example window drawing. Staff
stated to the applicant that window specifications will need to be submitted prior to final
approval.
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The existing basement windows were replaced without a permit with Crestline Vinyl double-
hung windows prior to the Owner purchasing the building.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Foundation
A. Should be cleaned, repaired,or repointed to masonry guidelines.
B. Should be parged or stuccoed if the brick and/or mortar is mismatched or
inappropriately repaired
C. Should not be concealed with concrete block, plywood panels,corrugated metal,or
other non-original materials
D. Should not be altered and original designs should be retained. If removal of sections of
the foundation is required,such as for mechanical unit installation, removal should
occur at the rear facade or non-readily visible side facades.
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location,size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced,but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows,as long as
their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for each COA request as follows and with the following
conditions:
1. The proposed rebuild area shall not be concealed with concrete block, plywood panels,
corrugated metal or other non-original materials.
2. Area to be reconstructed (30LF) at west elevation shall be cast-in-place concrete with
brick veneer to match the existing brick in color and size.
3. Remaining foundation walls shall not be removed.
4. Windows shall be replaced with aluminum-clad wood windows with trim that matches
the existing found at the east elevation.
5. The windows may have low-E glass, but may not contain tint.
6. The trim on the replacement windows at the west elevation must match the existing
window trim found at the east elevation (sill, stiles,flat stock, etc.) and may not have
modern brick mould.
7. All other details shall match the submitted drawings.
Miguel Domongues (owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
East foundation wall has a significant bowing occurring and must be corrected soon. All
basement windows will be removed and replaced.
Although the windows are in the basement,they are double hung windows not typically awning
style basement windows. Replacements would be double hung(1 over 1)wood windows with
aluminum cladding.
Foundation could have either i4 bricks installed or a veneer. Foundation with exterior finish
should not exceed the face of the house. Owner has saved the bricks removed from east
foundation and has a method to cut the bricks in half.
Commission would like staff to see and approve any proposed foundation veneer material prior
to installation. Veneer would have to look like brick, complimentary to the principal structure.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendation and the
following: 1) staffs approval of"veneer'','A brick or full brick exterior of foundation wall; and
2)replacement windows be 1 over 1 wood with aluminum cladding.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Staff to attend the biannual 2016 National Alliance of Preservation Commissions biennial conference
held in Mobile,Alabama on July 29, 2016.
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
• The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:47 p.m.
Respectfull submitted,
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Cindy A.Wa . , Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary August 23, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
r Tuesday, August 9, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. July 12, 2016
2. July 26, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 608 E. Chicago Street—Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
F. New Business
r 1. 117 Hinsdell Place—Installation of 6'-0" Privacy fence at side yard
2. 118 Hinsdell Place—Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of
new egress stairs
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
August 9, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall)by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Save!,
and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation;and Cindy Walden,DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Hunter to approve the minutes of July 12, 2016,as
amended (1-commission asked to have items un-tabled noted by address, 2-replacement of
staff report for 323 Wellington).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
608 E Chicago St—Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
New Business
117 Hinsdell PI—Installation of 6'-0" Privacy fence at side yard
118 Hinsdell PI—Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new egress stairs
ITEMS TABLED:
118 Hinsdell PI,due to non-representation.
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OLD BUSINESS:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to un-table items E1(608 E Chicago St)for
discussion (representatives for the properties in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
608 E Chicago St—Installation of metal handrails at south elevation walkway
This item was tabled at the July 26, 2016 DRSC meeting due to lack of owner representation.
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to install a
guardrail and handrail at service walk and stairs on the south elevation.
The guardrail will be of similar design as the fence found at the southwest corner of the
property. Per code,the guardrail and handrail height must be 36 inches in height,with a
maximum of 4 inch spacing at the vertical balusters and the bottom rail.The guardrail and
handrail shall be painted black to minimize detraction from the overall building.
To note,the concrete service walk will be reconstructed to match the existing in height,
material and footprint with an exception of the removal of the stepped ledge. This request was
approved by staff.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing,if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Aubrey Abernathy(property representative)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Attempting to use elements from rear stoop fencing details(stoop located east of hosue),
which has some square and ball elements. Will probably be made of aluminum, not wrought
iron due to cost.
Commission recommends the fence be bolted to the concrete and not anchored into the
concrete.
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Curled handle proposed at bottom of steps should be eliminated.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve the COA with he following requirement:
no decorative handle at the end of the fence.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
117 Hinsdell PI—Installation of 6'-O"Privacy fence at side yard
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a new
privacy fence on the north side of the property.
The applicant is proposing to install a 6'-O" privacy fence in the rear and side yard (north). The
applicant indicated that they would like to install a 6'-O" privacy fence at the north side yard up
to the front of the building as they have experienced damage on their home from play
equipment, such as soccer balls, hitting their home from the adjacent apartment building.To
note,the adjacent apartment building recently removed at 42 inch high fence at this proposed
location.
Per the Historic District Guidelines, privacy fences shall be located at the rear corner of the
building. If a fence is located past this point in a side yard,then it shall be 50%open with a
maximum height of 42 inches.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Fences
A. Should be proportionate to the house and the design should be compatible with the
character of the building and district.
B. Should be painted white or a trim color related to the house,never left to weather or
given a stain finish.
C. Of cast iron or other material of original design should be preserved.
D. Of cast iron may be added to buildings constructed in the late 19th and early 20th
century.Cast iron fences are generally not appropriate for dwellings built after 1920.
E. If placed along common property lines should not be placed against another fence-
double line fencing is not permitted.
F. Should have posts that are set a minimum of 30 inches below grade and no more than
eight feet apart.
G. If wood, be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine,cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
H. That has a decorative gate or arbors must be submitted with a drawing complete with
dimensions.
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A. Should be no higher than 36 inches with the posts being slightly higher and having caps
B. Should have pickets no wider than four inches with spacing between boards a minimum
of one inch up to the width of the board depending on the design of the fence.
C. If applicable to the layout, should have a minimum of corner posts end posts and gate
posts which are slightly taller than the fence and five to ten inches thick with a cap and
finial. Line posts can be visible and decorative to compliment the main posts or be
hidden behind the picket design. Fences which cross a driveway or walkway should
have gate posts. Gates should be designed to swing onto the private walkway or
driveway, not onto the public sidewalk.
Fences in Rear Yards
A. Built for privacy should not extend beyond the rear yard beginning at the back corner of
the house.
B. Built for privacy should have a minimum of gate post, corner post, and end posts which
are five to ten inches wide and taller than the pickets.
C. Can be constructed in the same low fence design found in the front yard
D. Of wood boards or planks for privacy should be located in rear yards and be no taller
than six feet. Boards should be no more than six inches wide.
E. Privacy fences of flat boards with flat tops in a single row are most appropriate for the
historic districts. Vertical boards topped with lattice or picket are also appropriate as
privacy fences.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted,since the height of the fence
in the side yard does not meet the height requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline Manual
for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
If the height of the fence is approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review
Subcommittee recommend the following.
1. The fencing shall be a maximum of 6'-0" high.
2. The fencing shall be painted to match the trim of the house.
The fence shall be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine,cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
Silvia Baeza(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Fence along the northern side of the property is approximately 2.4'from lot line to the
applicant's house structure.
Commission would need to approved the 6'fence from length of the house, since the
guidelines allow for 6'high fence from the rear foundation line to the rear property line.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
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118 Hinsdell PI—Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new egress
stairs
Applicant(s)were unable to attend tonight's meeting and requested staff to have the item
tabled.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to TABLE the COA as requested by applicant.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
1) General discussion of presentation by the Parks& Recreation regarding possible re-use of
the former Elgin Mental Health laundry building.
2) October 1St—Elgin Historic Museum will host a presentation regarding 302 W Chicago St.
3) Elgin Heritage Commission received an award from the National Alliance of Historic
Preservation Commissions for Best Practices—Use of Technology category for the Elgin
Heritage Plaque program that is now accessible at www.historicelgin.com. Both Christen
Sundquist (staff)and John Wiedmeyer(Chairman)attended the award ceremony event in
filik Mobile,Alabama, along with their spouses. Several workshops and tours completed the
event.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:48 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A.Wald Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary August 23, 2016
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
/" Tuesday,August 23, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. July 26, 2016
2. August 9, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 118 Hinsdell PI—Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new
egress stairs
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1. 471 Division St—Installation of new garage doors
2. 440 DuPage St—Installation of new garage doors
3. 177 Lincoln Ave—Installation of 10'x12' shed
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
August 23, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:02 p.m.in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Vice-Chairman Roberson.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy and Scott Savel
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Rebecca Hunter and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion#1 made by Committee Member Diamond to approve the minutes of July 26, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion#2 made by Committee Member Savel to approve the minutes of July 26, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
118 Hinsdell PI—Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new egress stairs
New Business
471 Division St— Installation of new garage doors
440 DuPage St—Installation of new garage doors
177 Lincoln Ave—Installation of 10'x12' shed
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to un-table items El for discussion (representatives
for the properties in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
118 Hinsdell PI—Demolition of existing rear,egress stairs and construction of new egress stairs
This item was tabled at the August 9, 2016 DRSC meeting due to lack of owner representation.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
rebuild the rear, multiple story porch on the building.
The rear deck and access to the building is proposed to be rebuilt. However because of the
lower visibility of the structure from the street,the property owner is proposing a simpler
design.
The structure cannot be seen from the street and is a non-contributing structure to the historic
significance/integrity of the Elgin Historic District.
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Porches:
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale, and
placement.
C. should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal and
the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed behind
the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative details
or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house,or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted. Staff
would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. The porch deck shall be rebuilt in the same footprint as currently constructed.
2. The top rail shall be a 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
3. A bottom rail shall also be installed to be a 2x4 with chamfered edges
4. Balusters shall be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart
5. The handrails down the stairs at the landings and bottom steps should end in a square,
6x6 wrapped newel post,topped with a post cap.
6. The porch floor shall overhang the frame board by no less than 1 inch.
7. All porch elements to be primed and painted.
If the rear, egress stairs are approved as proposed due to lack of visibility from the street, staff
recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee recommend the following:
1. All porch elements to be primed and painted.
Valentina Cejeda(owner),Jerry Pietryla and Travis Juracek(Habitat for Humanity)were
present for tonight's COA discussion:
Commission felt the staircase visibility from any street frontage (public right of way) is nearly
impossible. Even if any/all vegetation were removed, a person would have to be just at the
right"location",with their head angled in just the right "way",then maybe a portion of this
staircase would be visible.
Habitat has a program to assist property owners with "critical home repair" projects. Owners
are responsible for 25%of the project and permit costs,and Habitat assists with the other 75%
of the project.
Deck style details were (outside balusters on trends)was presented. Commission would prefer
a bottom chamfered rail, which will allow for snow removal and longevity of the staircase.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments and the following
amendments: 1) bottom rail (2x4 chamfered edges), 2) paint or solid body stain (paint after
installation is complete, stain application to be done in 2017).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
471 Division St—Installation of new garage doors
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
'' existing wooden garage doors with new steel doors similar in appearance.
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The applicant noted that existing garage doors are deteriorating at the corners of bottom
panels and they have constantly been repairing those areas.The applicant noted that these
doors were replaced in the early 1990s.
The applicant is proposing a more craftsman style garage door with divided lite windows in the
upper panels.The lower panels will be raised. Per the heritage plaque application and the
historic resources survey,the building is categorized as an American Foursquare with Craftsman
Style details.
This style garage door was approved at the property located at 68 N. Liberty Street at the
regular scheduled Design Review Subcommittee meeting held on February 12, 2007.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garages,Carriage Houses and Outbuildings
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Original features should be repaired to match the
original.
B. Should not be moved or relocated to another part of the lot, if original to the property.
Garage Doors
C. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair,they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design of construction of the garage.
D. Should be raised panel designs, with solid core,if proposed to be in metal designs. Flush
design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional doors and
hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
E. If windows are necessary,they should be simple in design with clear glass. Muntins in a
simple design may also be used. The use of ornamental stained glass and openings in
decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
F. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in color appropriate to the
period of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted,since the material of the
existing garage doors is in good condition with minor deterioration at the corners.
However,the existing garage doors are not original to the home.Should the replacement doors
be approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee
recommend the following:
1. That the proposed doors fit the existing garage door openings.
2. The proposed garage doors are painted a color to complement the existing paint
scheme and not left white.
3. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
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Joseph and Laura Becerra (owners)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owners indicated their preference of color for the door to be a dark taupe. Overhead doors
proposed to have 4 small windows above each of the four horizontal rows of raised panels.
Motion made by Committee Member Diamond to approve with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
440 DuPage St—Installation of new garage doors
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
existing wood garage door with new metal door with raised panels.
The applicant noted that existing garage door is deteriorated at the bottom panel and is unable
to open.The existing garage was installed between 1913 and 1950 per the Sanborn Fire
Insurance maps.The garage door is not original to the garage and was installed possibly in the
1980s.Staff completed a site assessment on August 16, 2016 and found the garage door in fair to poor
condition.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garages,Carriage Houses and Outbuildings
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Original features should be repaired to match the
original.
B. Should not be moved or relocated to another part of the lot, if original to the property.
Garage Doors
C. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair,they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design of construction of the garage.
D. Should be raised panel designs, with solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs. Flush
design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional doors and
hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
E. If windows are necessary,they should be simple in design with clear glass. Muntins in a
simple design may also be used. The use of ornamental stained glass and openings in
decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
F. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in color appropriate to the
period of the house.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the proposed door fits the existing garage door opening.
2. The proposed garage door shall be painted a color to complement the existing paint
scheme found on the garage and shall not be left white.
3. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
Filosonio Fernandez(owner)and Hector(translator)were present for tonight's COA
discussion:
Overhead doors proposed to have no windows. Raised panels are requested.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
177 Lincoln Ave—Installation of 10'x12'shed
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to install a 10'x12'
frame shed on the east side of the existing garage.
The proposed shed is to be constructed in the southeast area of the property. The shed will be
approximately 120 sq.ft. It will be constructed of wood with a gable roof.
The proposed shed will be visible from the public way.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages, Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling;clearly secondary in nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials,and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street,
secondary buildings may have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement
fiber board with appropriate trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
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F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood
paneled overhead roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new
garages. For two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is
acceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows In the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not
be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
the house and set off the relief of the panels.
Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for the installation of the proposed shed as it is set far
enough back (70'-0" off of east property line and 60'-0" off north property line)from the public
way and contains a gable roof and wood construction that is similar in design to the existing
home.The following conditions shall apply for approval:
1. The shed shall be primed and painted with colors to complement the existing home's
paint scheme.
Ivonne Hopkins(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner indicated the shed would be painted to match the house (light gray and white). Owner
is proposing to have add a row of small windows installed over the double doors.
As proposed,the shed would be approximately 70 feet from Spring Street; have the east wall
being"blank" (no door, no window).
Planning staff will be consulted for final determination of shed placement allowed east of the
existing garage, due to corner lot (street yard requirements).
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following amendment: small windows requested above the double doors are not to be
installed.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Annual House Walk—September 9th & 10th
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National Alliance Award to be acknowledged by city council on September 14th
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cindy A. ren Approved:
Design Re ew Subcommittee Secretary 09-13-16
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, September 13, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. August 23, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 8-16 S Liberty Street—Removal of deteriorated cupola
2. 33 N Porter Street— Installation of 6'-0" privacy fence in side yard
3. 564 Lillie Street—Installation of 8'x10' shed
4. 312 North Street—Reconstruction of front porch balustrade and handrails
G. Other
1. Representative of Casco Industries—Kevin Brown
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
September 13, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:01 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel,
and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of August 23, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
8-16 S Liberty Street—Removal of deteriorated cupola
33 N Porter Street—Installation of 6'-0" privacy fence in side yard
564 Lillie Street—Installation of 8'x10' shed
312 North Street—Reconstruction of front porch balustrade and handrails
ITEMS TABLED:
Casco Aluminum presentation; due to non-representation.
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NEW BUSINESS:
8-16 S Liberty Street—Removal of deteriorated cupola
The COA application has been filed as a corrective action to the following violations:
1. Removal of deteriorated cupola located on the south end of the east building.
The applicant has indicated their interest in removal of the deteriorated cupola as it is in poor
condition.The applicant stated that there are two cupolas per building and that the other three
cupolas were in good condition.
Staff has advised the applicant that architectural features should not be removed or altered if
original to the building.The cupolas can be seen from the public way.
To note,the building is listed as a non-contributing building to the Elgin Historic District
however, it was built in 1963 and has now reached historic status(50 years old).The building
has a twin adjacent to it listed at 11-25 S. Porter Street.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Architectural Details and Features
A. should be repaired rather than replaced
B. should not be removed or altered if original to the building
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material
D. should not be added unless there is physical, pictorial,or historical evidence that
such features were original to the house or consistent with the style which would
allow them to be added to the house. These features should match the original in
materials, scale, location, proportions,form and detailing.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the certificate of appropriateness application as
submitted,since removal of original, architectural features does not meet the requirements of
the Elgin Design Guideline Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
Nick Scarpelli(owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner indicated he is anticipating reroofing the entire building in 2017. Meanwhile the cupola
in question is leaning significantly to one side and he expressed potential safety issue. Owner is
unaware of the building cupolas being used for any type of ventilation and believes them to be
decorative only. Due to damage/decay, raccoons are getting into the attic and causing more
problems.
Commissioners discussed various aspects of this cupola including:colonial style design, cupola
scaling appeared to be too small for structure, possibly used previously for venting purposes,
and acknowledgement of additional cupolas(same size)on the structure.
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Although the structure has colonial design features, unable to determine if this cupolas are
original to the building or not. Non-contributing structure, however it is greater than 50 years
in age.
Owner requesting to remove the titling cupola and patch the area until the entire roof is
replaced.
Commissioners discussed the need for the cupolas if decorative only and miss proportioned in
design for the structure. Difficult to see cupolas with growth of trees and size of existing
cupolas.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve the removal of the collapsing cupola
now (safety issue) and to remove remaining three cupolas within 1 year of this COA approval.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
A roll call vote was requested by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed 5-2. Nays: Hunter and Roxworthy
33 N Porter Street—Installation of 6'-0" privacy fence in side yard
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a new
privacy fence on the south and west side of the house.
The applicant is proposing to install a 6'-0" dog-eared, privacy fence in the rear and side yards.
The applicant indicated that they would like to replace the current 6'-0" privacy fence at the
side yard and move the location approximately 9'-0" westward,toward the front yard with
another 6'-0"privacy fence. The current side yard fence is located approximately 33'-0" off of
the rear corner of the home in the side yard.
Per the Historic District Guidelines, privacy fences shall be located at the rear corner of the
building. If a fence is located past this point in a side yard,then it shall be 50%open with a
maximum height of 42 inches.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Fences
A. Should be proportionate to the house and the design should be compatible with the
character of the building and district.
B. Should be painted white or a trim color related to the house, never left to weather or
given a stain finish.
C. Of cast iron or other material of original design should be preserved.
D. Of cast iron may be added to buildings constructed in the late 19th and early 20th
century. Cast iron fences are generally not appropriate for dwellings built after 1920.
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E. If placed along common property lines should not be placed against another fence-
double line fencing is not permitted.
F. Should have posts that are set a minimum of 30 inches below grade and no more than
eight feet apart.
G. If wood, be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine, cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
H. That has a decorative gate or arbors must be submitted with a drawing complete with
dimensions.
Fences in Front Yards
I. Should be no higher than 36 inches with the posts being slightly higher and having caps
J. Should have pickets no wider than four inches with spacing between boards a minimum
of one inch up to the width of the board depending on the design of the fence.
K. If applicable to the layout, should have a minimum of corner posts end posts and gate
posts which are slightly taller than the fence and five to ten inches thick with a cap and
finial. Line posts can be visible and decorative to compliment the main posts or be
hidden behind the picket design. Fences which cross a driveway or walkway should
have gate posts. Gates should be designed to swing onto the private walkway or
driveway, not onto the public sidewalk.
Fences in Rear Yards
L. Built for privacy should not extend beyond the rear yard beginning at the back corner of
the house.
M. Built for privacy should have a minimum of gate post,corner post, and end posts which
are five to ten inches wide and taller than the pickets.
N. Can be constructed in the same low fence design found in the front yard
O. Of wood boards or planks for privacy should be located in rear yards and be no taller
than six feet. Boards should be no more than six inches wide.
P. Privacy fences of flat boards with flat tops in a single row are most appropriate for the
historic districts. Vertical boards topped with lattice or picket are also appropriate as
privacy fences.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted, since the height of the fence
in the front and side yards do not meet the height requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline
Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
If the height of the fence is approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review
Subcommittee recommend the following.
1. The fencing shall be a maximum of 6'-0" high.
2. The fencing shall be more decorative than a dog-eared fence such as a solid with lattice
style fence.
The fence shall be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine, cypress or other rot resistant
wood.
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rik Susan Macomb and Thomas Reid (owners)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner would like to install the 6' high fence a foot or two from the eastern portion of the
tower (approximately 7-8' east of the existing fence). Existing fence was designed and installed
about 25 years ago. The top 1' of the fence has already came down and the lower 5'is leaning
significantly.
Commission informed homeowner the existing fence was installed incorrectly. Good side of the
fence is to face the adjacent property owner, while the supports are seen by the home owner.
With the issuance of a fence permit,the building code will require the new fence to be
construction properly.
Staff recommends the style of fence to be decorative due to placement. Owner had a brochure
from "Fence Connection" of which two fence styles would be considered for this project:
#19—A 5' high board on board design with a 1' decorative spindle design.
#20—A 5' high standard straight board design with 1' decorative lattice design.
Homeowner would prefer tight side by side straight boards, not board on board (shadow box)
style.
Some distance/relief from the tower should be provide. A couple of feet would be agreeable by
homeowner and commission.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve a COA with the following conditions:
1-fence height not to exceed six feet (5' (straight board design with 1' decorative spindle
design), boards are to be installed side by side, not board on board (shadow box) style; 2-solid
stain or painted,within one year of COA issuance;3-maximum 4' wide gate; and 4-to be install
a few feet back from the east of tower.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
564 Lillie Street—Installation of 8'x10' shed
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to install a 8'x10'
frame shed on the north east area of their property.
The shed will be approximately 80 sq.ft. It will be constructed of wood with a gable roof.The
proposed shed will be minimally visible from the public way.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds,Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling;clearly secondary in nature.
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rk B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts. These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street,
secondary buildings may have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement
fiber board with appropriate trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum,or steel. Wood
paneled overhead roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new
garages. For two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is
acceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not
be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
rthe house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for the installation of the proposed shed as it cannot be seen
from the public way and contains a gable roof and wood construction that is similar in design to
the existing home.The following conditions shall apply for approval:
1. The shed shall be primed and painted with colors to complement the existing home's
paint scheme.
Jesus Sarmiento(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Glass at top of shed is not appropriate in design and should be removed.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve with staff recommendations and the
following amendment: glass window above doorway is to be removed from design.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
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312 North Street—Reconstruction of front porch balustrade and handrails
The COA application has been filed as a corrective action to the following violations:
1. Reconstruction of front porch handrails without a COA or permit.
The applicant indicated that the previous porch handrails were in bad condition. They were also
unaware that they were located in the Historic District and that they needed a permit for the
work at the front porch.They noted that they will reconstruct the porch handrails to meet the
Historic District Guidelines and the Design Review Subcommittee's comments.
The previous porch handrails did not match the style or age of the home as there were no
newel posts terminating the end of the handrail at the bottom tread.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained.Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
(II D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
[ floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
A. Should have new balusters for the railing, If required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
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F inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The handrail shall have a 2x4'/:"top rail with chamfered edges,%" cove, 2x2 turned,
balusters with sharp edges,with a maximum of 2 1/2" spacing.That the bottom rail is a
2 x 4W with chamfered edges, installed 2" above finished floor.
2. That the newel posts shall be 6x6(wrapped 4x4 post)with pummeled edges and a 5
inch diameter ball cap.
3. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
4. All front porch details shall be primed and painted.
April Welch(owner), Carri Ann Overheidt(Property Mgr.), Mike Sigrist(Grid 7 Properties LLC)
was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Post would be installed in front of the last step overlaying the step. Newel post proposed at
6x6 due to mass of building.
Wrapping height proposed at top and bottom of post discussed in great detail. Taller bottom
wrapping is typical in newer residential developments, not in the historic districts.
filk The proposed placement of a newel post against the house is not traditional. Usually the railing
would be attached to a mounting block, or a'A post would be set into the siding by cutting the
siding to fit the block or post. Edges would be sealed in either case.
Due to post dimensions,the ball needs to be 5-5 W.
Railing height proposed at 36". Within the historic district, owners can sign documentation to
allow handrail of 30".
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendation and the
following amendments: 1) Ball to be 5'/,-51/2",due to newel post width; 2) Bottom wrap of
post on bottom step,to be approximately 8 3/" high; shorter top wrap will be determined by
bottom wrap height (staff to approve final dimensions); 3) cove moulding under handrails;
4)squared balusters will be true 13/4"x 1%" with 2—2'A" spacing; 5) railings to be attached to
the house by either: a)6"x6" mounting block, b) 1/2 newel post, or c) screwed directly into the
wall/siding; 6) railing height of 33"to the top of railing(no graspable rail); 7) newel post
maximum 6%2"; 8)flute on newel post is optional; 9) paint to compliment the house.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
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OTHER:
Representative of Casco Industries—Kevin Brown was not in attendance.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
1) Gifford Park Association's 35th Annual Historic Housewalk-September 10th & 11tH
2) Heritage Commission to present the National Alliance of Preservation Commissions Award
to the Mayor, City Council and the City Manager on Wednesday, September 14, 2016.
This award was received for website technology.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. len Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary September 27,2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, September 27, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. September 13, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 508 Grace St—Window and Door replacement
2. 18 N Porter St— Demolition of rear garage
3. 265 Douglas Ave—Change in design of side porch stairs
4. 263-267 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
5. 269 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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rDesign Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
September 27, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:03 p.m. In the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynne Diamond, and Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation;and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
r Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of September 13,
2016,with spelling correction on page 5 from "satin"to "stain".
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 5-0-1. Abstain:Wiedmeyer
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
John Marston (Heritage Commissioner)
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
508 Grace St—Window and Door replacement
18 N Porter St—Demolition of rear garage
265 Douglas Ave—Change in design of side porch stairs
263-267 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
269 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
508 Grace St—Window and Door replacement
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness request for the replacement of all
of the windows and doors due to the presence of lead.
The applicant is a part of the Kane County's Lead Based Paint Hazard Control Program which
requires licensed lead contractors to perform the work as this is a Federal Program. Due to this,
this increases costs associated with restoration.
The following scope is proposed for the exterior:
1. Removal of 15, double-hung windows to match existing;
2. Removal of five, basement three-lite awning windows with single lite window;
3. Installation of two storm windows to be placed at fixed window locations at front
elevation
4. Removal of front storm door and replacement with full-view storm door;
5. Removal of existing four panel side door with four panel, metal insulated door
6. Removal and replacement of front entry threshold to match existing;
7. Prep and paint exterior wood/trim and porch beadboard.
Staff, along with Chairman Wiedmeyer and Commissioner Savel completed a site assessment
on August 31, 2016. It was found that the windows and doors were in fair to good condition.
However, due to costs associated with using a licensed lead contractor per Federal standards
for abatement, it was noted that restoration would be cost prohibitive.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
A. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
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F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Screen,Storm and Security Windows
A. Should coincide at the original meeting rail, if a sash window is uneven.
Screens
A. Should be correctly sized to fit the window opening, including round arched windows.
B. Should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within the window frames,
not overlap the frames. Screen window panels should be full-view design or have a
meeting rail match that of the window behind It.
Storm Windows
A. Should be sized and shaped to fit the window opening. Round arched window openings
should be preserved and not closed off with wood panels in new storm windows.
B. Should preferably be of wood but aluminum full-view design and with baked-on enamel
or anodized finish in dark colors are also acceptable.
C. Should have built-in lower screens, if triple track
Doors and Door Features
A. Should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style, glazing (type of
glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is
acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. Should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or
Italianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. Should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style of the
house, if applicable.
D. Should only involve artificial materials such as lexan or other acrylic based materials, if
applicable.
E. Should not be removed or altered.The original size of the door opening should not be
enlarged, reduced or shortened in height.
F. Should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
G. Should not be added at locations where they did not originally exist. If needed to meet
safety codes or to enhance the use of the property, doors should be added at the rear or
sides of dwellings where they would not be readily visible.
Screen and Storm Doors
A. Should be correctly sized to fit the entrance opening. Door openings should not be
enlarged, reduced, or shortened for new door installation.
B. Screen doors should be preserved and maintained if original
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C. Should preferably be made of wood, but aluminum full-view design with baked-on 7
enamel or anodized, if new combination storm and screen doors are required.A kick
plate may be used in combination with storm and screen door,with a maximum height
of twelve inches.
D. Should not involve ornamentation on storm door
Staff Recommendation:
Due to extenuating circumstances including the applicant's participation in the federally funded
Lead Based Paint Hazard Control Program, Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of
Appropriateness as submitted and with the following conditions:
1. That all windows shall be aluminum clad wood and must fit original window openings
with the following requirements:
a. Top Rail: 2 1/4"
b. Stiles: 2 1/4"
c. Meeting Rail: 1"
d. Muntins: 1" (if existing window has a muntin)
e. Bottom Rail: 3"
f. Replacement windows that have muntins shall have a simulated divided lite with
a spacer
g. The window replacements must match the profile of the original windows.
h. Window glass shall not be tinted.
2. That the side door must fit existing door opening with the following requirements:
a. Door must be 4-panel doors to match the existing
3. That the front storm door is to be replaced with a Full-View glass storm door and the
existing front door is to remain.
a. Must fit existing door opening and not be enlarged, reduced or shortened
b. Shall be aluminum full-view design with backed-on enamel or anodized finish in
colors complementary to the house
c. Should not involve ornamentation on storm door
4. Storm windows shall fit the existing window opening with the following requirements:
a. Aluminum full-view design with baked on enamel or anodized finish in colors
that are complementary to the house.
Removal of front entry threshold to match the existing in material, size, and profile.
Amanda Collier(owner)and Lowell Tosh (Community Contacts)were present for tonight's
COA discussion:
Lead issues/poisoning is caused by friction. The opening and closing of doors and windows
cause lead dust to occur. Typically, only operable windows and doors are a concern. However,
this house interior is unique,since high levels on lead ratings were also found on interior
window trim (looks like a varnish/lacquer coating),with the highest lead ratings found on the
kitchen walls.
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Community Contacts has a maximum budget allowed per structure and usually address homes
having high lead ratings by installing new vinyl windows, encapsulating (painting)the exterior
trim and porch features and replacing the interior window trim. However, since this house is
within the historic district,vinyl window windows are not an option for this project.
This proposal is for the installation of new wood windows with aluminum clad for all operable
windows. Insert style window replacements to be installed are to match window opening.
Based on insert style windows products on the market, committee members acknowledged the
glass/pane size will be reduced slightly. Rails and styles are not to be the thin/narrow design.
Old wood storm windows will be removed. Damaged or rotten trim, sills, etc. will need to be
replaced.
There are three(3) fixed windows that will not be removed. Installation of storm windows for
these fixed windows has been proposed.
Awing basement windows currently have two styles of panes,single lite and triple lite.
Commissioners indicated windows visible from the street should be installed with the triple lite
design, which was common practice in the building time period.
The front porch will also receive lead paint abatement practices (light wet sanding,then
painting).
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations and
the following requirements: 1) replacement sills,window trim, etc. must be replaced in kind
(style,thickness, etc.), deviation requires staff approval for appropriateness; 2) all windows to
match existing lites, deviation requires staff approval.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed 4-1. Nay: Hunter
18 N Porter St—Demolition of rear garage
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
demolish the c. 1910 repair shop/garage on the property.
The repair shop/garage was built between 1903 and 1913 and is a contributing secondary
structure.Staff inspected the repair shop/garage on September 23, 2016 and found that there
are some areas of deterioration, however,the building is not beyond repair. The most exposed
side is the south elevation where the clapboards were in worst condition. The east elevation
was in the best condition as it was covered by the roof overhang.The roof structure at the open
air"carport" is rotted and causing areas of the roof to sag.
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The application has indicated that at this time,they are only requesting demolition of the
structure to remove the hazard from the property.There are currently two garages on site.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Guidelines for Demolition
A. Should be avoided of any original feature or part of a pre-1945 building.
B. should not occur, unless:
1. An emergency condition exists and the public safety and welfare requires the
removal of the building or structure;
2. A building does not contribute to the historical or architectural character of the
districts and its removal will improve the appearance of the districts; or
3. The denial of the demolition will result in an Economic Hardship on the applicant
as determined by Chapter 20.10 of Title 20 of the Elgin Municipal Code—"Elgin
Historic Preservation Ordinance."
4. The denial of the demolition will impede rehabilitation, or redevelopment of the
site, and/or adjacent properties from substantially improving the aesthetic,
architectural or economic value of the affected properties and surrounding area.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the demolition of this structure as the building is not
beyond repair.
However, if the Design Review Subcommittee approves demolition, staff has the following
comments and recommendations:
1. Allow the structure to be available for documentation such as measured drawings and
photographs.
Paul Bedner(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Single car garage in northwest corner would remain. The workshop with canopy structure with
would be demolished due to condition. The canopy area has a crumbling concrete floor, which
would be removed too.
Several features would be salvaged prior to demolition and retained on site. Should a future
property owner decide to build a larger garage or carriage house these pieces could be
incorporated into the potential project. There is one set of double doors leading into the
workshop, one fixed window and four(4) 4over4 double hung windows.
Owner indicated the workshop is about 18" from the west property line. Overhead utility lines
run along the west property line too. Building has termite damage,two bowing areas on the
roof and no support on majority of the west wall. Building floor appears to be a mud/dirt. East
elevation of the workshop seems sound, south elevation has lots of damage. From inside the
building,the west elevation wall can be seen bowing out about 10-12"with no support except
the corners. Canopy roof supports are severely damaged. Ceiling and exterior
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Ms. Sundquist indicated during her site visit of the property she did see bowing of the west
wall, however she did not have access to the interior of the building for further assessment.
Based on the construction details shown of the accessory structure with canopy, committee
members felt the canopy area was added on after the building's construction was completed.
Committee not sure if this accessory structure should be deemed a contributing secondary
structure, since it appears not to be built at the time the house was constructed.
Committee indicated other accessory structures within the historic districts boundaries have
been raised and appropriate foundation and wall supports installed, which have saved those
accessory structures from demolition.
A site visit by committee members to assess the building condition, should the property owner
would like to schedule an appointment prior to voting on the request for demolition.
Owner requested decision tonight by the committee.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
Chairman Wiedmeyer requested a roll call vote.
The motion failed 2-2-1.
Yeas: Hunter, Roberson. Nays: Roxworthy, Wiedmeyer. Abstained: Saval.
Appeal must be received within 10 business days of this committee's determined. Staff provided
appeal process details to the applicant.
265 Douglas Ave—Change in design of side porch stairs
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to redesign side
porch landing and stairs.The proposed side porch stairs and landing were approved at the April
12, 2016 Design Review Subcommittee meeting.
Due to unforeseen circumstances,the applicant is proposing to reconfigure the stairs to run
parallel to the home versus perpendicular. To note,the design of the side porch will mimic the
front porch design that was approved on April 12, 2016.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
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placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats,or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present,and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor Is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
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John Roberson (architect)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
As a reminder, Mr. Roberson noted the roof was being eliminated from this staircase. The
drawings provided today indicate the decking of the originally approved porch has been
reduced to the width of the staircase that will run along the side of the building. Although the
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width has been decreased, the length was increase to head room and access to the basement
door below.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations with
the following amendment: with the exception of the width, porch details (spindles, railing,
newel post, caps, skirting, etc.) must be installed as previously by the committee in April 2016.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 3-0-2.
Abstained: Roberson (architect) and Saval (prior contractor).
263-267 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
rebuild the rear multi-story porch on the building.
The rear deck and access to the building is proposed to be rebuilt.The structure would not be
visible from the street but is visible from the neighborhood park that is adjacent to the building.
Due to the lower visibility of the structure from the street,the property owner is proposing a
simpler design. The posts will be 6x6 posts with 2x2 balusters. Newel posts will be designed
with pyramidal post caps. Details of the porch reconstruction are included in this packet.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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Porch Columns and Railing !
A. Should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original In dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges,3/" cove, 2x2 square,
balusters,with a maximum spacing of 2.5".That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered
edges, installed 2" above finished floor.
2. All rear porch details shall match the attached drawing.
3. All rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
John Roberson(architect)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Support is needed for this tall/massive porch system. Concrete piers to be installed and will be
visual about 2 feet above grade. Not only do the piers provide adequate support, should a
vehicle hit the pier it will be less likely to cause damage to the porch posts and structure.
Staircase moved directions (up/down)to provide access to the basement door.
Newel posts are 6x6 and should be wrapped with base board accordingly. Square hip cap to be
added (6x6 is not to be notched).
Visibility of this porch is limited at best from any street view. Committee would prefer the stair
treads to be bullnosed, but not required for this porch system.
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Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations with
the following amendments: 1)wrap 6x6 posts with base board, and 2)square hip cap to be
added to newel post.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 4-0-1.
Abstained: Roberson (architect).
269 Douglas Ave—Reconstruction of rear balconies
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to
rebuild the rear multi-story porch on the building.
The rear deck and access to the building is proposed to be rebuilt. Due to the lower visibility of
the structure from the street,the property owner is proposing a simpler design.The posts will
be 6x6 posts with 2x2 balusters. Newel posts will be designed with pyramidal post caps. Details
of the porch reconstruction are included in this packet.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
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B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges,%" cove, 2x2 square,
balusters, with a maximum spacing of 2.5".That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered
edges, installed 2" above finished floor.
2. All rear porch details shall match the attached drawing.
3. All rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
John Roberson (architect) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
First floor decking of this porch is approximately 4.5 feet from grade. Overall length of this
porch has been reduced by roughly 8 feet compared to the existing porch structure. The upper
3rd floor porch roof is being eliminated in this new design, which will help to reduce the overall
appearance of this massive structure.
Concrete piers to be installed and will be visual about 2 feet above grade. Again for both
stability and construction integrity should a vehicle hit the pier, less likely to cause damage to
the porch posts, structure and building.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthyto approve with staff recommendations with
the following amendments: 1) wrap 6x6 posts with base board, and 2) square hip cap to be
added to newel post.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 4-0-1.
Abstained: Roberson (architect).
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ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
1) Open house from noon to 4pm on 10/01/16—Cobblestone house on W Chicago Street
2) 312 North St—COA from 09/13/16,owners will not sign waiver for lower
railing/handrails. They will be installing at 36" height with a graspable handrail
returning into the post. Newel post will not contain fluting.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. den Approved:
Design R iew Subcommittee Secretary October 11, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, October 11, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. September 27, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 59 N Channing St—Construction of handrails and newel posts at front and side
porches
2. 126 Hill Ave—Demolition of garage, reconstruction and relocation of new garage
3. 459 N Spring St— Redesign of front porch stairs
4. 3 N Liberty St— Reconstruction of front stoop
5. 18 N. Porter St— Demolition of rear garage
G. Other
1. Representative of Casco Industries—Kevin Brown
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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of the Elgin Heritage Commission
October 11, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
r APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Hunter to approve the minutes of September 27, 2016,
as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Damir Latinovic, Senior Planner; Kim Bauer and John Marston, Elgin Heritage Commission
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
59 N Channing St—Construction of handrails and newel posts at front and side porches
126 Hill Ave—Demolition of garage, reconstruction and relocation of new garage
459 N Spring St—Redesign of front porch stairs
3 N Liberty St—Reconstruction of front stoop
18 N. Porter St—Demolition of rear garage
ITEMS TABLED:
epok 459 N Spring St— Redesign of front porch stairs, due to non-representation
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eiwk NEW BUSINESS:
59 N Channing St—Construction of handrails and newel posts at front and side porches
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
rehabilitate the front and side porch elements including the balustrade, stairs and stair
handrails.
The existing railing system is not appropriate for the style of the home. Elements on the existing
side and front porch that are original to the home include the newel posts and porch columns.
The applicant has indicated that they would like to install newel posts that have a pummeled
top edge with a ball cap in the same similar design as the existing ball cap. However,they would
not be able to replicate the notched edge design of the existing, original newel posts.The
applicant has also proposed three turned spindle design for review.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
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C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of
the treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the decorative porch elements including the newel posts and porch columns shall
be restored.
2. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, 3/" cove, 2x2 square,turned
balusters,with a maximum of 2 1/2" spacing. That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with
chamfered edges, installed 2" above finished floor.
3. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
4. That the newel posts are added to the bottom of the stairs
5. That the newel posts shall be 6x6 with a pummeled top edge and to match existing in
style (Spherical cap) and proportion.
6. The flooring shall be replaced with 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular
to the house. Pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
All front and side porch details/elements shall be primed and painted.
Bianca Acevedo(owner) and Dennis Acevedo(son)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Son indicated the carpenter is going to replicate details. Entire balustrade to be replaced.
Preference is spindle option #2. Decking to be tongue and groove pressure treated lumber.
Round ball cap (6") with grooves for newel post.
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eilik Posts should be 5 %- 6" for use of true 2'/" (3x3) spindles. Top rail and bottom rail minimum
of 4%".
Standard skirting details: 1x4 bottom trim board, 1x6 or 1x8 top trim board (to cover rim joist)
with 1x8 on corner.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements: 1- spindles true 2 W (3x3) with option#2 design; 2- match newel post
to existing newel post; 3- minimum 4 '/:" minimum top/bottom rail.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
126 Hill Ave—Demolition of garage, reconstruction and relocation of new garage
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the
existing garage and to construct a new garage on the property.The existing asphalt driveway
will remain and be extended to the rear to provide access to the new proposed garage.
Although the architectural and historical survey conducted in 2008 states the secondary as
contributing,the existing 22' x 22' garage in not original to the home and was built after 1950.
Staff conducted a site inspection on September 9, 2016 and found the structure to be in poor
condition and lacks historic integrity.
The proposed 22' x 22' garage will be located towards the rear of the property in the location of
the historic carriage house that was demolished prior to 1950 and include the following: wood
frame construction, smooth fiber cement board or cedar cladding, gabled roof with a 6:12
pitch,two paneled overhead doors, and paneled service door. Additionally, staff has obtained
information on the details of the trim corner boards, casings and the garage door.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages, Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms
if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated districts.
These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling such as clapboard,
stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street, secondary buildings may have
exterior substitute siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim and
exposure and cementitious materials.
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CF. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors are
more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood paneled overhead
roll-up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car garages the
use of two single doors instead of one larger double door is more appropriate for use in a
historic district. However, one double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not be
appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match the
house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the request to construct the new garage if the following
conditions are met:
1. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar(no knots) and installed
smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
Fiber cement board siding is also acceptable as the garage will be placed further back on
the site and not readily visible from the right-of-way.
rill 2. That the siding and trim is to be painted a color to match or complement the existing
house colors.
3. That the garage roof matches the house in slope and form, but be no less than a 6:12
slope.
4. That the eaves shall be enclosed but not be boxed to match eaves of existing house and
shall extend a minimum of 12 inches away from the garage wall.
5. That the frieze board dimensions match existing house.The frieze board shall be a
minimum of 8" (not to exceed 10")to match house.The frieze board shall be painted.
6. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
Nicole Stefanik(owner)and Nelson Bump were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Demolition approval is based on emergency/hazardous conditions.
Service door proposed is a steel smooth 6 panel. No windows proposed for sides or back of
garage structure.
Various details of the garage was discussed and noted below within the committee's motion.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements: 1) 9' walls, 2) 12/12 pitch roof, 3)either a 3'x4' (appx) rectangular
window to be installed above overhead doors (operable or non-operable)or a "hayloft"
opening (final size to be determined by staff)trimmed with 1x6, plus drip cap and 2x sill for
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C appearance,4) 1x8 above overhead door with drip cap, 5) crown under the gables(optional) on
fascia to roof(minimum 1x2), 6) bed molding up to frieze board, 7) no glass in overhead door,
8)4-4 h" reveal for clear smooth cedar siding, 9)vertical trim to be 1x4 (sitting proud of the
siding).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
459 N Spring St—Redesign of front porch stairs
No representation for meeting.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to table COA request.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
3 N Liberty St—Reconstruction of front stoop
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a
temporary handrail system at the front stoop.
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The applicant stated that they would like to install a temporary handrail system at the porch
location due to requirements noted by their insurance company. The entire porch will be
reconstructed in 2017 due to uneven landing and porch elements such as the stairs that are
deteriorated.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
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H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats,or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The porch handrail system shall be primed and painted.
2. The temporary handrail shall be removed within 6 months—1 year, after which the
owner shall have approved plans by the Design Review Subcommittee for the new porch
including a handrail system and newel posts that are appropriate for the style of the
porch.
Aubrey Abernathy(representative for WMFL, LLC)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
The property consists of two apartments and one commercial space. Column is not in good
shape. Railing and column will be replaced in 2017.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed 5-0-1. Abstain: Save!
18 N. Porter St—Demolition of rear garage
This request came before the Design Review Subcommittee for review at their regular scheduled
meeting held on September 27, 2016. At that time, the request to demolish the structure failed
(2-2-1). New information has been acquired and submitted to be reviewed by the committee.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
demolish the c. 1910 repair shop/garage on the property.
The repair shop/garage was built between 1903 and 1913 and is a contributing secondary
structure according to the 2008/2009 Elgin Historic District Architectural and Historical Survey.
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A contributing resource is any building, structure or object that adds to the historic and/or
architectural integrity that makes a historic district significant.
Staff inspected the repair shop/garage on September 23, 2016 and found that there were some
areas of deterioration, however, the building did not appear to be beyond repair. The
assessment was from the exterior only as staff did not have access into the interior at that time.
The most exposed side was the south elevation where the clapboards were in worst condition.
The west elevation was also in poor condition as the clapboards are pushing outward/detached
from the structure at the base. The east elevation was in the best condition as it was covered
by the roof overhang. The roof structure at the open air "carport" is rotted and causing areas of
the roof to sag.
Staff, Chairman Wiedmeyer and Commissioner Ristow completed a site assessment of the
garage on October 5, 2016. Staff and Commissioner Roberson also completed a site assessment
of the garage on October 5, 2016 but at a different time. With access into the interior of the
building, it was found that more than 50%of the materials were beyond repair.The base plate
at the west elevation did not connect to any structure and the wall was completely detached at
this location.There was also deterioration at the top plate at the west elevation leaving the
structure compromised at this location.The floor boards throughout were rotted and
connected to floor joists that were in direct contact with the ground.There was no concrete
installed for a foundation except at the corners of the structure. In addition,the north elevation
C wall at the location of the door exhibits new structure with newer wall material possibly
suggesting that that wall was not original to the building.
The application has indicated that at this time,they are only requesting demolition of the
structure to remove the hazard from the property. There are currently two garages on site.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Guidelines for Demolition
A. Should be avoided of any original feature or part of a pre-1945 building.
B. should not occur, unless:
1. An emergency condition exists and the public safety and welfare requires the
removal of the building or structure;
2. A building does not contribute to the historical or architectural character of the
districts and its removal will improve the appearance of the districts; or
3. The denial of the demolition will result in an Economic Hardship on the applicant
as determined by Chapter 20.10 of Title 20 of the Elgin Municipal Code—"Elgin
Historic Preservation Ordinance."
4. The denial of the demolition will impede rehabilitation, or redevelopment of the
site, and/or adjacent properties from substantially improving the aesthetic,
architectural or economic value of the affected properties and surrounding area.
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Staff Recommendation:
Due to the inspection of the interior of the structure and finding that more than 50%of the
structure is beyond repair, staff does recommend approval of the demolition of this structure
with the following recommendations:
1. Allow the structure to be available for documentation such as measured drawings and
photographs.
2. Salvage any historic elements such as windows and doors,for reuse.
Paul Bedner(owner)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Based on the interior, a lot of patching has occurred to this structure. Center wall was added,
which caused both portions of the roof sway.
Committee approval of demolition is based on existing emergency/hazardous conditions.
Motion mode by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
r OTHER:
Casco Industries to discuss their aluminum windows and other products.
Representative Kevin Brown was not in attendance of tonight's meeting. No communication
was received indicating a rescheduling would be required.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
December plaque awards to be held on 12/06/16 at the Elgin Historic Museum.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:15 p.m.
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Cindy A. I n Approved:
Design Re i Subcommittee Secretary November 8,2016
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Notice of Cancellation of Meeting
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
For the regularly scheduled meeting for
October 25, 2016
The regularly scheduled meeting of Tuesday, October 25, 2016, has been canceled due no items
rbeing submitted for consideration.
Our next meeting will be our regularly scheduled meeting date of November 8, 2016, at 6:00
p.m., Second Floor, City Council Chambers, North Wing, City Hall, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL
60120.
Should you have any questions regarding the posting of this cancellation notice, please contact
the staff liaison Christen Sundquist at 847-931-6004.
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, November 8, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. October 11, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 459 N Spring St—Redesign of front porch stairs
F. New Business
1. 120 Tennyson Court—Restoration of original siding, rehabilitation of front and side
porch
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 (TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
November 8, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Roberson, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynne Diamond
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
enk Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve the minutes of October 11,2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Jose Rizo, Roberto Rizo
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
459 N Spring St—Redesign of front porch stairs
New Business
120 Tennyson Court—Restoration of original siding, rehabilitation of front and side porch
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
459 N Spring St—Redesign of front porch stairs
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct
new steps, handrails and knee wall at the front porch. This is a redesign of what was approved
on October 27, 2015.
The applicant stated that they would like to install knee walls and handrail at the existing stair
location to better match the stucco porch than what was submitted and approved previously.
The proposed handrail height shall maintain a 30 inch height measured at the stair nosing.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed
behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative
details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
1. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
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Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The knee wall shall match existing in height, material,texture and size. It shall also
match details from the submitted, older photograph.
2. The street facing knee wall shall be capped to match the existing cap and trim detailing
as found on the existing side knee walls.
3. A goose-neck handrail shall be installed at the knee wall with the following
specifications: a 2x4 34"top rail with chamfered edges, 3" cove, 2x2 square balusters
with 2.5 inch spacing.
4. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
5. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
6. All front porch details shall be primed and painted.
John Roberson (architect)was present for tonight's COA discussion:
John Roberson stated that a knee wall is more appropriate for this style of home. Staff
indicated that a handrail is needed to meet modern building codes. The Commission allowed
the Applicant with three design options for the reconstruction of the stair system:
1. Knee wall at stairs shall align with the height of the decking of the porch and extend
outward past the first step. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with
wood to match the existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be
installed on both sides of the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be painted black to
blend in.
2. Knee wall at stairs shall be stepped and abut halfway of the height of the existing porch
knee wall.The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with wood to match the
existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be installed on both sides of
the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
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l 3. The knee wall shall be of stucco and follow the contour of the wood, serpentine handrail
that will abut into the existing knee wall at the porch level.
The following specifications abides by all three design options:
1. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended)or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
2. That the stair treads shall have a %" cove molding.
3. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
4. All front and rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements:
1. Knee wall at stairs shall align with the height of the decking of the porch and extend
outward past the first step.The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with
wood to match the existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be
installed on both sides of the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
2. Knee wall at stairs shall be stepped and abut halfway of the height of the existing porch
knee wall. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with wood to match the
r existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be installed on both sides of
the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
3. The knee wall shall be of stucco and follow the contour of the wood, serpentine handrail
that will abut into the existing knee wall at the porch level.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 5-0-1 (Roberson abstained).
NEW BUSINESS:
120 Tennyson Court—Restoration of original siding, rehabilitation of front and side porch
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to rehabilitate the siding on
the house. The house was formerly clad with substitute siding.The applicant obtained a COA
for the removal with the condition that Staff conduct a site inspection following the completion
of the siding removal.The applicant intends to repair the existing siding.
The existing siding is of a substitute material and not original to the home. Staff conducted a
site assessment on November 3, 2016. At that time the substitute siding was removed. It was
found that the original siding was in good condition with select areas in need of replacement
including several window sills, window hoods, quarter round at the several corner boards and a
drip edge to run around the entire building at the water table.
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The trim around the windows,the window hoods as well as the sills are in good condition with
exceptions of a couple areas that will need to be spot replaced.The owner is requesting to
restore the existing siding and spot replace at areas of deterioration that are beyond repair.
The applicant has also submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following rehabilitation of the front and side porches.
The front porch is in varying states of deterioration. There was concrete steps leading up to the
porch that were beyond repair showing signs of holes that were unsafe.The owner removed
the stairs as a safety precaution.The owner is requesting for approval of rehabilitating the front
porch with new,turned spindles with appropriate style handrails and newel posts at the porch
and stair location. The bases of the columns are also in varying condition and are proposed to
be replaced to match the existing in kind.
The side porch is also in varying states of deterioration.The homeowner is proposing
restoration of the columns and the roof above but replace the balustrade, skirting, stairs treads
and newel post.The proposed spindles will be turned (decorative), the top and bottom rail will
chamfered and the newel post will be a 6x6 with pummeled edge topped with a 5 inch ball cap.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed
behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative
details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete(see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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rPorch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary, wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the original siding
should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or outlines
of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be replicated and
reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they should be recorded through
photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood based
materials such as particle board, gyp board, or press board. These materials generally
do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However,
if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond repair, or missing,
substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are met:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
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[ b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be
smooth without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal
of original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds.
However, if no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,
corner boards, base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible.The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers.A
paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat guns
to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since this
can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Sidin
1. Damaged siding shall be repaired, epoxy preferred
2. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred.
3. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements-in-kind to match the
original siding profile and exposure.
4. All replacement wood material shall be clear(no knots), cedar preferred and installed
smooth side out.
5. All deteriorated window hoods that are beyond repair shall match the existing in kind.
6. All deteriorated trim boards,window hoods, corner boards/quarter round molding that
are beyond repair shall match the existing in kind.
7. A drip cap shall be installed above the water table and shall run around the entire
perimeter of the home.
8. Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
Front Porch
1. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck, unless
decking is greater than 39 inches in height from grade,than guard rail shall be 36 inches
in height from decking.
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2. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x6 ripped won to 41/2" with chamfered corners to
allow for water runoff. The bottom rail shall be installed 2 inches above finished floor.
The handrail shall have a 3/cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The spindles shall be turned (decorative) and should be no less than 3x3 spaced no
greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6x6 newel posts with square
hipped caps. The top of the handrail should end in the newel posts on either side of the
stair.
5. Bead mold shall run the perimeter of the porch around the porch box beam
6. Decorative post face brackets and a capital shall be installed at each column.
7. The porch decking shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the
house. Douglas fir, pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
8. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side
with porch/deck enamel to deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws
(ceramic coated preferable)to adhere board to framing.
9. The newel posts shall be added to the bottom of the stairs.
10. Skirting shall have a 1x8 top rim board with a 1x4 bottom rim board with 1x8 corner
boards and 1x4 vertical skirting boards to be spaced 1 inch apart.
11. All porch details shall match submitted drawings.
12.All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Side Porch
1. Columns at the rear porch shall remain.
2. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck
3. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x6 ripped won to 4 X" with chamfered corners to
allow for water runoff.The bottom rail shall be installed 2 inches above finished floor.
The handrail shall have a % cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
4. The spindles shall be turned (decorative) and should be no less than 3x3 spaced no
greater than 2.5 inches apart.
5. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6x6 newel posts with a pummeled
edge and topped with a 5" spherical, ball cap. The top of the handrail should end in the
column at the top of the stair.
6. The porch decking shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the
house. Douglas fir, pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
7. That the stair treads shall 5/4"x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull-nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side
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rik with porch/deck enamel to deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3-4 deck screws
(ceramic coated preferable)to adhere board to framing.
8. The top rimboard at the skirting, if in good condition shall remain,though, if it needs
replacement, replace in kind.The bottom rim board shall be a 1x4 with 1x8 corner
boards and 1x4 vertical skirting boards to be spaced 1 inch apart.
9. All porch details shall match submitted drawings.
10.All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Roberto Rizo(owner)and Jose Rizo(owner)were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Roberto noted that they would like to restore the existing siding and architectural elements on
the home as well as install appropriate porch elements that follows the recommendations given
by the Design Review Subcommittee.They indicated that there were only some areas of
deterioration on the siding and windows that would need to be replaced in kind.They also
asked staff to provide a color scheme that is in keeping with the style of the home.
The brothers noted that they prefer Option 1 or Option 2 in the design of the porch elements.
The Commissioners agreed that the proposed decorative balusters do not fit the style of the
porch and it should be of a simpler design such as square spindles.The Commissioners also
agreed that a stick style balustrade would be appropriate for this house and commended the
owners for wanting to install this type of design as it is uncommon in the historic districts.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations for
the siding and the following requirements:window hoods that are proposed to be replaced
shall match the rear window hoods in size, design and material.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve with staff recommendations for the
porch elements and the following requirements:The balustrade on the front and side porch
shall be stick style to match the submitted specifications.The railing shall be 1 W'x 1%" with
beaded design.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
OTHER:
None
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
None
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:31 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Christen Sundquist Approved:
Historic Preservation Planner November 22, 2016
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, November 22, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. November 8, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 38 N Gifford Street—Removal of window opening at rear elevation of garage
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
November 22, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2' floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Rebecca Hunter,John Roberson and Scott Save!
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
r Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of November 8, 2016,
with one typo (page 3: "was" instead of"were".
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed 3-0-1.
Abstain: Diamond
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
38 N Gifford St- Removal of window opening at rear elevation of garage
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
38 N Gifford St-Removal of window opening at rear elevation of garage
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to re-side over
an existing window opening at the rear(west) elevation of the garage.
The applicant noted that when they bought the property the window was not there and the
opening was boarded up with plywood. They indicated that they would like to side over the
window opening with siding to match the existing(shingle)to make the garage more slightly.
To note,the garage has been altered since it was built (c. 1913) and the window is not visible
from the public way.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
C recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood,deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as
their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
rwithin the window frames.
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[ H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the application as submitted, with the following
recommendations:
1. The framing of the window opening shall remain to allow for possible,future restoration
of the structure.
2. The new siding must match the existing and not be noticeable.
3. All elements shall be primed and painted and be of a consistent color.
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Juan Rajas(owner) and his brother Tomas Rajas were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Property was purchased in 2010. In order to see the back side of the garage,you have to be in
the neighbor's yard. Was unaware of the condition of back of the garage until a code case
recently issued.
Commissioners stated the homeowner needs to be sure to use the siding/wall shingles (square
edges, and tightly butted together), not roofing shingles.
Attendees assured the commission the correct wall style shingles will be purchased installed.
They also indicated the remained of the garage wall (which previously was converted to living
space)would only require painting of the existing wall shingles. Both portions will be painted
white to match the existing wall color.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
1) December 6th is the Plaque Award ceremony at the Elgin Historic Museum. Doors open at
6:00pm,ceremony starts at 7:00pm. All commissioners and the public are invited.
2) The Elgin Heritage Commission will be receiving a "state" award for their website. The
Illinois Association of Historic Preservation Commission will present the award on December
10, 2016, in Joliet, IL at 10:00am at Joliet Area Historical Museum.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
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rik ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:13 p.m.
Resp- ully submitted,
Cindy A. Walde Approv206Design Review L •committee Secretary
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, December 13, 2016
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. November 22, 2016
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 422 North Street— Installation of turned columns at side porch
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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of the Elgin Heritage Commission
December 13, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel,
and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
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Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve the minutes of November 22, 2016,
as amended (date correction within report and "received"to "receiving".
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 5-0-2. (Abstain: Diamond and Hunter)
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
422 North St—Installation of turned columns at side porch
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to reconstruct the
property's side entrance overhang.The COA application has been filed as a corrective action to
the following violations:
1. Side entrance overhang and columns installed without a COA.
The rear entrance overhang was approved in 2014 to be rebuilt to match the existing due to
damage by a tree limb. The side entrance overhang was not approved to be replaced at that
time.
The owners stated that the overhang at the side entrance was rebuilt to match elements found
at the rear overhang that were approved in the existing permit. They were unaware that the
side entrance overhang was not included in their permit. To note,the prior overhang at the side
entrance was not original to the home.
The prior overhang was larger than what was replaced and had two—4x4 posts. The owners
removed the 4x4 posts and replaced them with 6x6 turned columns. The owners are requesting
to maintain the turned columns. Staff noted to the owners that any exterior elements must be
approved prior to installation.
The columns installed are not in keeping with the style of the home and has a column base that
is proportionally too high.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
[ foundation exist.
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CShould not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted. Staff
would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. The columns shall be removed if the overhang is structurally sound without the posts,
or;
2. The columns are replaced with cylindrical columns that are simpler in design to
complement the existing columns at the front porch.
3. All side porch details shall be primed and painted.
If the side entrance overhang with turned columns are approved as proposed, staff
recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee recommend the following:
1. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Daniel Garrido, David & Maria Garrido(owners) and Maria Flores(translator) were present
for tonight's COA discussion:
Owners indicated they had purchased the posts after they had removed the side porch roof,
due to the deteriorated 4x4 post condition. Height from top step to lower portion of the roof
structure is 8'-5".
Commission explained the style of post is not appropriate for the design of the house. Posts
are visible from the public right of way. Anytime existing exterior elements are removed,the
guidelines indicate appropriate replacements must be installed.
Staff indicated they have discussed with owners the COA approval requirement for any exterior
work, and applicable building permits.
Concerns were addressed by the commission regarding the work (roof and new columns) being
completed without a building permit and without a required COA submittal. The roof structure
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r may or may not be structurally sound by building code standards. Staff to work with CODE and
Building to ensure proper roof attachment to building.
Should the roof structure need to be taken down (per Code/Building requirements)the
following recommendations would be appropriate for design of the new porch roof, including
but not limited to: 1) hip style roof, 2) soffit and header(appearance of a box beam), 3) no
bracket from box beam to house (not enough clearance), 4) bead board under roof, 5) tapered
round columns, etc.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve 8" round tapered columns with
plain base and cap (square top & bottom and round rings) made of either fiberglass or wood.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Staff presented the IHPA(Illinois Association of Historic Preservation Commissions) which was
awarded to the Heritage Commission for the city's website technology in preservation.
CORRESPONDENCE:
filk None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cindy A. Walden Approved: 01/10/2017
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
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