HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-08-16 DRSC approved 11-22-16Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
November 8, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Roberson, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynne Diamond
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve the minutes of October 11, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Jose Rizo, Roberto Rizo
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
459 N Spring St — Redesign of front porch stairs
New Business
120 Tennyson Court — Restoration of original siding, rehabilitation of front and side porch
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
459 N Spring St — Redesign of front porch stairs
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct
new steps, handrails and knee wall at the front porch. This is a redesign of what was approved
on October 27, 2015.
The applicant stated that they would like to install knee walls and handrail at the existing stair
location to better match the stucco porch than what was submitted and approved previously.
The proposed handrail height shall maintain a 30 inch height measured at the stair nosing.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed
behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative
details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the fagade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
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Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/412 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull -nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The knee wall shall match existing in height, material, texture and size. It shall also
match details from the submitted, older photograph.
2. The street facing knee wall shall be capped to match the existing cap and trim detailing
as found on the existing side knee walls.
3. A goose -neck handrail shall be installed at the knee wall with the following
specifications: a 2x4 W top rail with chamfered edges, W cove, 2x2 square balusters
with 2.5 inch spacing.
4. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull -nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1 ". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3 -4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
5. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
6. All front porch details shall be primed and painted.
John Roberson (architect) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
John Roberson stated that a knee wall is more appropriate for this style of home. Staff
indicated that a handrail is needed to meet modern building codes. The Commission allowed
the Applicant with three design options for the reconstruction of the stair system:
1. Knee wall at stairs shall align with the height of the decking of the porch and extend
outward past the first step. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with
wood to match the existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be
installed on both sides of the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be painted black to
blend in.
2. Knee wall at stairs shall be stepped and abut halfway of the height of the existing porch
knee wall. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with wood to match the
existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be installed on both sides of
the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
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3. The knee wall shall be of stucco and follow the contour of the wood, serpentine handrail
that will abut into the existing knee wall at the porch level.
The following specifications abides by all three design options:
1. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull -nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1 ". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3 -4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
2. That the stair treads shall have a %" cove molding.
3. All front porch details shall match the attached drawing.
4. All front and rear porch details shall be primed and painted.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements:
1. Knee wall at stairs shall align with the height of the decking of the porch and extend
outward past the first step. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with
wood to match the existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be
installed on both sides of the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
2. Knee wall at stairs shall be stepped and abut halfway of the height of the existing porch
knee wall. The material of the knee wall shall be stucco capped with wood to match the
existing knee wall cap at the porch level. Pipe railing shall be installed on both sides of
the stairs to be 30 inch height and shall be black as to blend in.
3. The knee wall shall be of stucco and follow the contour of the wood, serpentine handrail
that will abut into the existing knee wall at the porch level.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed 5-0-1 (Roberson abstained).
NEW BUSINESS:
120 Tennyson Court — Restoration of original siding, rehabilitation of front and side porch
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to rehabilitate the siding on
the house. The house was formerly clad with substitute siding. The applicant obtained a COA
for the removal with the condition that Staff conduct a site inspection following the completion
of the siding removal. The applicant intends to repair the existing siding.
The existing siding is of a substitute material and not original to the home. Staff conducted a
site assessment on November 3, 2016. At that time the substitute siding was removed. It was
found that the original siding was in good condition with select areas in need of replacement
including several window sills, window hoods, quarter round at the several corner boards and a
drip edge to run around the entire building at the water table.
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The trim around the windows, the window hoods as well as the sills are in good condition with
exceptions of a couple areas that will need to be spot replaced. The owner is requesting to
restore the existing siding and spot replace at areas of deterioration that are beyond repair.
The applicant has also submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
following rehabilitation of the front and side porches.
The front porch is in varying states of deterioration. There was concrete steps leading up to the
porch that were beyond repair showing signs of holes that were unsafe. The owner removed
the stairs as a safety precaution. The owner is requesting for approval of rehabilitating the front
porch with new, turned spindles with appropriate style handrails and newel posts at the porch
and stair location. The bases of the columns are also in varying condition and are proposed to
be replaced to match the existing in kind.
The side porch is also in varying states of deterioration. The homeowner is proposing
restoration of the columns and the roof above but replace the balustrade, skirting, stairs treads
and newel post. The proposed spindles will be turned (decorative), the top and bottom rail will
chamfered and the newel post will be a 6x6 with pummeled edge topped with a 5 inch ball cap.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed
behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative
details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the fagade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull -nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary, wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings the original siding
should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or outlines
of decorative missing features are revealed, these should generally be replicated and
reinstalled. If these features are not replaced they should be recorded through
photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown -in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous
material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood based
materials such as particle board, gyp board, or press board. These materials generally
do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However,
if more than 50% of the original siding material is damaged beyond repair, or missing,
substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are met:
a. the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
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b. Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be
smooth without knots and be accented with trim
c. Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal
of original decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds.
However, if no trim or surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia,
corner boards, base boards, molding and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as
closely as possible. The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to
prevent moisture damage.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers. A
paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat guns
to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since this
can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as.submitted and with the
following conditions:
Sidin
1. Damaged siding shall be repaired, epoxy preferred
2. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred.
3. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements -in -kind to match the
original siding profile and exposure.
4. All replacement wood material shall be clear (no knots), cedar preferred and installed
smooth side out.
5. All deteriorated window hoods that are beyond repair shall match the existing in kind.
6. All deteriorated trim boards, window hoods, corner boards /quarter round molding that
are beyond repair shall match the existing in kind.
7. A drip cap shall be installed above the water table and shall run around the entire
perimeter of the home.
8. Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
Front Porch
1. The porch guardrail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck, unless
decking is greater than 39 inches in height from grade, than guard rail shall be 36 inches
in height from decking.
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2. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x6 ripped won to 4 %" with chamfered corners to
allow for water runoff. The bottom rail shall be installed 2 inches above finished floor.
The handrail shall have a 3/ cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
3. The spindles shall be turned (decorative) and should be no less than 3x3 spaced no
greater than 2.5 inches apart.
4. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6x6 newel posts with square
hipped caps. The top of the handrail should end in the newel posts on either side of the
stair.
5. Bead mold shall run the perimeter of the porch around the porch box beam
6. Decorative post face brackets and a capital shall be installed at each column.
7. The porch decking shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the
house. Douglas fir, pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
8. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull -nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1 ". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side
with porch /deck enamel to deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3 -4 deck screws
(ceramic coated preferable) to adhere board to framing.
9. The newel posts shall be added to the bottom of the stairs.
10. Skirting shall have a 1x8 top rim board with a 1x4 bottom rim board with 1x8 corner
boards and 1x4 vertical skirting boards to be spaced 1 inch apart.
11. All porch details shall match submitted drawings.
12. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Side Porch
1. Columns at the rear porch shall remain.
2. The porch guard rail height should be no greater than 30 inches from the deck
3. The top and bottom rails shall be 2x6 ripped won to 4 %" with chamfered corners to
allow for water runoff. The bottom rail shall be installed 2 inches above finished floor.
The handrail shall have a % cove molding to run the length of handrail at each side of
balusters.
4. The spindles shall be turned (decorative) and should be no less than 3x3 spaced no
greater than 2.5 inches apart.
5. The handrails down the stairs should end in a square 6x6 newel posts with a pummeled
edge and topped with a 5" spherical, ball cap. The top of the handrail should end in the
column at the top of the stair.
6. The porch decking shall be 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular to the
house. Douglas fir, pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
7. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull -nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of 1 ". Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side
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with porch /deck enamel to deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3 -4 deck screws
(ceramic coated preferable) to adhere board to framing.
8. The top rimboard at the skirting, if in good condition shall remain, though, if it needs
replacement, replace in kind. The bottom rim board shall be a 1x4 with 1x8 corner
boards and 1x4 vertical skirting boards to be spaced 1 inch apart.
9. All porch details shall match submitted drawings.
10. All porch details shall be primed and painted.
Roberto Rizo (owner) and Jose Rizo (owner) were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Roberto noted that they would like to restore the existing siding and architectural elements on
the home as well as install appropriate porch elements that follows the recommendations given
by the Design Review Subcommittee. They indicated that there were only some areas of
deterioration on the siding and windows that would need to be replaced in kind. They also
asked staff to provide a color scheme that is in keeping with the style of the home.
The brothers noted that they prefer Option 1 or Option 2 in the design of the porch elements.
The Commissioners agreed that the proposed decorative balusters do not fit the style of the
porch and it should be of a simpler design such as square spindles. The Commissioners also
agreed that a stick style balustrade would be appropriate for this house and commended the
owners for wanting to install this type of design as it is uncommon in the historic districts.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations for
the siding and the following requirements: window hoods that are proposed to be replaced
shall match the rear window hoods in size, design and material.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve with staff recommendations for the
porch elements and the following requirements: The balustrade on the front and side porch
shall be stick style to match the submitted specifications. The railing shall be 1 %" x 1 %" with
beaded design.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
OTHER:
None
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
None
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:31 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Christen Sundquist Approved:
Historic Preservation Planner November 22, 2016