HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-11-16 DRSC approved 11-08-16Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
October 11, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Hunter to approve the minutes of September 27, 2016,
as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Damir Latinovic, Senior Planner; Kim Bauer and John Marston, Elgin Heritage Commission
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
59 N Channing St — Construction of handrails and newel posts at front and side porches
126 Hill Ave — Demolition of garage, reconstruction and relocation of new garage
459 N Spring St — Redesign of front porch stairs
3 N Liberty St — Reconstruction of front stoop
18 N. Porter St — Demolition of rear garage
ITEMS TABLED:
459 N Spring St — Redesign of front porch stairs, due to non - representation
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NEW BUSINESS:
59 N Channing St — Construction of handrails and newel posts at front and side porches
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
rehabilitate the front and side porch elements including the balustrade, stairs and stair
handrails.
The existing railing system is not appropriate for the style of the home. Elements on the existing
side and front porch that are original to the home include the newel posts and porch columns.
The applicant has indicated that they would like to install newel posts that have a pummeled
top edge with a ball cap in the same similar design as the existing ball cap. However, they would
not be able to replicate the notched edge design of the existing, original newel posts. The
applicant has also proposed three turned spindle design for review.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the fagade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
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C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. Should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is
made of wood.
C. Should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of
the treads should be bull -nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. Should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the decorative porch elements including the newel posts and porch columns shall
be restored.
2. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, W cove, 2x2 square, turned
balusters, with a maximum of 2 1/2" spacing. That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with
chamfered edges, installed 2" above finished floor.
3. That the stair treads shall 5/4" x 12 (recommended) or 2x12 and bull -nosed on 3 sides
and overhang the risers a minimum of V. Pressure treated wood or composite material
is acceptable. When using pressure treated wood for the stair treads, paint every side to
deter any future cupping of the board. Use 3 -4 deck screws (ceramic coated preferable)
to adhere board to framing.
4. That the newel posts are added to the bottom of the stairs
5. That the newel posts shall be 6x6 with a pummeled top edge and to match existing in
style (Spherical cap) and proportion.
6. The flooring shall be replaced with 1x4 tongue and groove and installed perpendicular
to the house. Pressure treated wood or composite material (recommended) is
acceptable.
All front and side porch details /elements shall be primed and painted.
Bianca Acevedo (owner) and Dennis Acevedo (son) were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Son indicated the carpenter is going to replicate details. Entire balustrade to be replaced.
Preference is spindle option #2. Decking to be tongue and groove pressure treated lumber.
Round ball cap (6 ") with grooves for newel post.
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Posts should be 5 % - 6" for use of true 2 %" (3x3) spindles. Top rail and bottom rail minimum
of 4 % ".
Standard skirting details: 1x4 bottom trim board, 1x6 or 1x8 top trim board (to cover rim joist)
with 1x8 on corner.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements: 1- spindles true 2 %" (3x3) with option #2 design; 2- match newel post
to existing newel post; 3- minimum 4 %" minimum top /bottom rail.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
126 Hill Ave — Demolition of garage, reconstruction and relocation of new garage
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the
existing garage and to construct a new garage on the property. The existing asphalt driveway
will remain and be extended to the rear to provide access to the new proposed garage.
Although the architectural and historical survey conducted in 2008 states the secondary as
contributing, the existing 22' x 22' garage in not original to the home and was built after 1950.
Staff conducted a site inspection on September 9, 2016 and found the structure to be in poor
condition and lacks historic integrity.
The proposed 22' x 22' garage will be located towards the rear of the property in the location of
the historic carriage house that was demolished prior to 1950 and include the following: wood
frame construction, smooth fiber cement board or cedar cladding, gabled roof with a 6:12
pitch, two paneled overhead doors, and paneled service door. Additionally, staff has obtained
information on the details of the trim corner boards, casings and the garage door.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings: Garages, Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms
if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated districts.
These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling such as clapboard,
stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street, secondary buildings may have
exterior substitute siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim and
exposure and cementitious materials.
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F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors are
more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood paneled overhead
roll -up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car garages the
use of two single doors instead of one larger double door is more appropriate for use in a
historic district. However, one double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty -two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not be
appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match the
house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the request to construct the new garage if the following
conditions are met:
1. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar (no knots) and installed
smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
Fiber cement board siding is also acceptable as the garage will be placed further back on
the site and not readily visible from the right -of -way.
2. That the siding and trim is to be painted a color to match or complement the existing
house colors.
3. That the garage roof matches the house in slope and form, but be no less than a 6:12
slope.
4. That the eaves shall be enclosed but not be boxed to match eaves of existing house and
shall extend a minimum of 12 inches away from the garage wall.
5. That the frieze board dimensions match existing house. The frieze board shall be a
minimum of 8" (not to exceed 10 ") to match house. The frieze board shall be painted.
6. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
Nicole Stefanik (owner) and Nelson Bump were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Demolition approval is based on emergency /hazardous conditions.
Service door proposed is a steel smooth 6 panel. No windows proposed for sides or back of
garage structure.
Various details of the garage was discussed and noted below within the committee's motion.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following requirements: 1) 9' walls, 2) 12/12 pitch roof, 3) either a 3'x4' (appx) rectangular
window to be installed above overhead doors (operable or non - operable) or a "hayloft"
opening (final size to be determined by staff) trimmed with 1x6, plus drip cap and 2x sill for
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appearance, 4) 1x8 above overhead door with drip cap, 5) crown under the gables (optional) on
fascia to roof (minimum 1x2), 6) bed molding up to frieze board, 7) no glass in overhead door,
8) 4 -4 %" reveal for clear smooth cedar siding, 9) vertical trim to be 1x4 (sitting proud of the
siding).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
459 N Spring St — Redesign of front porch stairs
No representation for meeting.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to table COA request.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
3 N Liberty St — Reconstruction of front stoop
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install a
temporary handrail system at the front stoop.
The applicant stated that they would like to install a temporary handrail system at the porch
location due to requirements noted by their insurance company. The entire porch will be
reconstructed in 2017 due to uneven landing and porch elements such as the stairs that are
deteriorated.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale and
placement
C. Should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal
and the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be
placed behind the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide
decorative details or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood
floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick)
E. Should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the fagade,
if the porch floor is made of wood.
G. Should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
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H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the
foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1: The porch handrail system shall be primed and painted.
2. The temporary handrail shall be removed within 6 months —1 year, after which the
owner shall have approved plans by the Design Review Subcommittee for the new porch
including a handrail system and newel posts that are appropriate for the style of the
porch.
Aubrey Abernathy (representative for WMFL, LLQ was present for tonight's COA discussion:
The property consists of two apartments and one commercial space. Column is not in good
shape. Railing and column will be replaced in 2017.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed 5 -0 -1. Abstain: Savel
18 N. Porter St — Demolition of rear garage
This request came before the Design Review Subcommittee for review at their regular scheduled
meeting held on September 27, 2016. At that time, the request to demolish the structure failed
(2 -2 -1). New information has been acquired and submitted to be reviewed by the committee.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
demolish the c. 1910 repair shop /garage on the property.
The repair shop /garage was built between 1903 and 1913 and is a contributing secondary
structure according to the 2008/2009 Elgin Historic District Architectural and Historical Survey.
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A contributing resource is any building, structure or object that adds to the historic and /or
architectural integrity that makes a historic district significant.
Staff inspected the repair shop /garage on September 23, 2016 and found that there were some
areas of deterioration, however, the building did not appear to be beyond repair. The
assessment was from the exterior only as staff did not have access into the interior at that time.
The most exposed side was the south elevation where the clapboards were in worst condition.
The west elevation was also in poor condition as the clapboards are pushing outward /detached
from the structure at the base. The east elevation was in the best condition as it was covered
by the roof overhang. The roof structure at the open air "carport" is rotted and causing areas of
the roof to sag.
Staff, Chairman Wiedmeyer and Commissioner Ristow completed a site assessment of the
garage on October 5, 2016. Staff and Commissioner Roberson also completed a site assessment
of the garage on October 5, 2016 but at a different time. With access into the interior of the
building, it was found that more than 50% of the materials were beyond repair. The base plate
at the west elevation did not connect to any structure and the wall was completely detached at
this location. There was also deterioration at the top plate at the west elevation leaving the
structure compromised at this location. The floor boards throughout were rotted and
connected to floor joists that were in direct contact with the ground. There was no concrete
installed for a foundation except at the corners of the structure. In addition, the north elevation
wall at the location of the door exhibits new structure with newer wall material possibly
suggesting that that wall was not original to the building.
The application has indicated that at this time, they are only requesting demolition of the
structure to remove the hazard from the property. There are currently two garages on site.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Guidelines for Demolition
A. Should be avoided of any original feature or part of a pre -1945 building.
B. should not occur, unless:
1. An emergency condition exists and the public safety and welfare requires the
removal of the building or structure;
2. A building does not contribute to the historical or architectural character of the
districts and its removal will improve the appearance of the districts; or
3. The denial of the demolition will result in an Economic Hardship on the applicant
as determined by Chapter 20.10 of Title 20 of the Elgin Municipal Code — "Elgin
Historic Preservation Ordinance."
4. The denial of the demolition will impede rehabilitation, or redevelopment of the
site, and /or adjacent properties from substantially improving the aesthetic,
architectural or economic value of the affected properties and surrounding area.
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Staff Recommendation:
Due to the inspection of the interior of the structure and finding that more than 50% of the
structure is beyond repair, staff does recommend approval of the demolition of this structure
with the following recommendations:
1. Allow the structure to be available for documentation such as measured drawings and
photographs.
2. Salvage any historic elements such as windows and doors, for reuse.
Paul Bedner (owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Based on the interior, a lot of patching has occurred to this structure. Center wall was added,
which caused both portions of the roof sway.
Committee approval of demolition is based on existing emergency /hazardous conditions.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
OTHER:
Casco Industries to discuss their aluminum windows and other products.
Representative Kevin Brown was not in attendance of tonight's meeting. No communication
was received indicating a rescheduling would be required.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
December plaque awards to be held on 12/06/16 at the Elgin Historic Museum.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:15 p.m.
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Respectf ly submitted,
Cindy g A. VU�Ien Approved:
Design Re i§6v Subcommittee Secretar y November 8, 2016