HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-23-16 DRSC approved 09-13-16Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
August 23, 2016
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:02 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2 "d floor of City Hall) by Vice - Chairman Roberson.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lynne Diamond, Bill Ristow, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy and Scott Savel
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Rebecca Hunter and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion ##1 made by Committee Member Diamond to approve the minutes of July 26, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion #2 made by Committee Member Savel to approve the minutes of July 26, 2016, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
118 Hinsdell PI — Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new egress stairs
New Business
471 Division St — Installation of new garage doors
440 DuPage St — Installation of new garage doors
177 Lincoln Ave — Installation of 10'x12' shed
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to un -table items E1 for discussion (representatives
for the properties in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
118 Hinsdell PI — Demolition of existing rear, egress stairs and construction of new egress stairs
This item was tabled at the August 9, 2016 DRSC meeting due to lack of owner representation.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
rebuild the rear, multiple story porch on the building.
The rear deck and access to the building is proposed to be rebuilt. However because of the
lower visibility of the structure from the street, the property owner is proposing a simpler
design.
The structure cannot be seen from the street and is a non - contributing structure to the historic
significance /integrity of the Elgin Historic District.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches:
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
C. should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal and
the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed behind
the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative details
or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the fagade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted. Staff
would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. The porch deck shall be rebuilt in the same footprint as currently constructed.
2. The top rail shall be a 2x4 with chamfered corners to allow for water runoff.
3. A bottom rail shall also be installed to be a 2x4 with chamfered edges
4. Balusters shall be no less than 2x2 spaced no greater than 2.5 inches apart
5. The handrails down the stairs at the landings and bottom steps should end in a square,
6x6 wrapped newel post, topped with a post cap.
6. The porch floor shall overhang the frame board by no less than 1 inch.
7. All porch elements to be primed and painted.
If the rear, egress stairs are approved as proposed due to lack of visibility from the street, staff
recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee recommend the following:
1. All porch elements to be primed and painted.
Valentina Cejeda (owner), Jerry Pietryla and Travis Juracek (Habitat for Humanity) were
present for tonight's COA discussion:
Commission felt the staircase visibility from any street frontage (public right of way) is nearly
impossible. Even if any /all vegetation were removed, a person would have to be just at the
right "location ", with their head angled in just the right "way ", then maybe a portion of this
staircase would be visible.
Habitat has a program to assist property owners with "critical home repair" projects. Owners
are responsible for 25% of the project and permit costs, and Habitat assists with the other 75%
of the project.
Deck style details were (outside balusters on trends) was presented. Commission would prefer
a bottom chamfered rail, which will allow for snow removal and longevity of the staircase.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments and the following
amendments: 1) bottom rail (2x4 chamfered edges), 2) paint or solid body stain (paint after
installation is complete, stain application to be done in 2017).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
471 Division St — Installation of new garage doors
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
existing wooden garage doors with new steel doors similar in appearance.
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The applicant noted that existing garage doors are deteriorating at the corners of bottom
panels and they have constantly been repairing those areas. The applicant noted that these
doors were replaced in the early 1990s.
The applicant is proposing a more craftsman style garage door with divided lite windows in the
upper panels. The lower panels will be raised. Per the heritage plaque application and the
historic resources survey, the building is categorized as an American Foursquare with Craftsman
Style details.
This style garage door was approved at the property located at 68 N. Liberty Street at the
regular scheduled Design Review Subcommittee meeting held on February 12, 2007.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garages, Carriage Houses and Outbuildings
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Original features should be repaired to match the
original.
B. Should not be moved or relocated to another part of the lot, if original to the property.
Garage Doors
C. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair, they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design of construction of the garage.
D. Should be raised panel designs, with solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs. Flush
design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional doors and
hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
E. If windows are necessary, they should be simple in design with clear glass. Muntins in a
simple design may also be used. The use of ornamental stained glass and openings in
decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
F. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in color appropriate to the
period of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff cannot recommend approval of the application as submitted, since the material of the
existing garage doors is in good condition with minor deterioration at the corners.
However, the existing garage doors are not original to the home. Should the replacement doors
be approved as proposed, staff recommends that the Design Review Subcommittee
recommend the following:
1. That the proposed doors fit the existing garage door openings.
2. The proposed garage doors are painted a color to complement the existing paint
scheme and not left white.
3. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
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Joseph and Laura Becerra (owners) were present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owners indicated their preference of color for the door to be a dark taupe. Overhead doors
proposed to have 4 small windows above each of the four horizontal rows of raised panels.
Motion made by Committee Member Diamond to approve with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
440 DuPage St — Installation of new garage doors
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
existing wood garage door with new metal door with raised panels.
The applicant noted that existing garage door is deteriorated at the bottom panel and is unable
to open. The existing garage was installed between 1913 and 1950 per the Sanborn Fire
Insurance maps. The garage door is not original to the garage and was installed possibly in the
1980s.
Staff completed a site assessment on August 16, 2016 and found the garage door in fair to poor
condition.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garages, Carriage Houses and Outbuildings
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Original features should be repaired to match the
original.
B. Should not be moved or relocated to another part of the lot, if original to the property.
Garage Doors
C. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair, they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design of construction of the garage.
D. Should be raised panel designs, with solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs. Flush
design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional doors and
hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
E. If windows are necessary, they should be simple in design with clear glass. Muntins in a
simple design may also be used. The use of ornamental stained glass and openings in
decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
F. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in color appropriate to the
period of the house.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the proposed door fits the existing garage door opening.
2. The proposed garage door shall be painted a color to complement the existing paint
scheme found on the garage and shall not be left white.
3. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
Filosonio Fernandez (owner) and Hector (translator) were present for tonight's COA
discussion:
Overhead doors proposed to have no windows. Raised panels are requested.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
177 Lincoln Ave — Installation of 10'x12' shed
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to install a 10'x12'
frame shed on the east side of the existing garage.
The proposed shed is to be constructed in the southeast area of the property. The shed will be
approximately 120 sq.ft. It will be constructed of wood with a gable roof.
The proposed shed will be visible from the public way.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings: Garages, Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated
dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped
roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated
districts. These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a
dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated
dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street,
secondary buildings may have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement
fiber board with appropriate trim and exposure and cementitious materials.
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Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors
are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood
paneled overhead roll -up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new
garages. For two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is
acceptable for garages of less than twenty -two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not
be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match
the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed
structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval for the installation of the proposed shed as it is set far
enough back (70' -0" off of east property line and 60' -0" off north property line) from the public
way and contains a gable roof and wood construction that is similar in design to the existing
home. The following conditions shall apply for approval:
1. The shed shall be primed and painted with colors to complement the existing home's
paint scheme.
Ivonne Hopkins (owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion:
Owner indicated the shed would be painted to match the house (light gray and white). Owner
is proposing to have add a row of small windows installed over the double doors.
As proposed, the shed would be approximately 70 feet from Spring Street; have the east wall
being "blank" (no door, no window).
Planning staff will be consulted for final determination of shed placement allowed east of the
existing garage, due to corner lot (street yard requirements).
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the
following amendment: small windows requested above the double doors are not to be
installed.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
Annual House Walk —September 9th & 10th
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National Alliance Award to be acknowledged by city council on September 1411
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Diamond.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. V a en Approved:
Design Re ew Subcommittee Secretary 09 -13 -16