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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcw-drsc 11-24-15Design Review Subcommittee of the Elgin Heritage Commission November 24, 2015 Minutes The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers (Located on the 2 °d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Wiedmeyer. MEMBERS PRESENT: Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer MEMBERS ABSENT: None CITY STAFF PRESENT: Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT: None PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION: Old Business None New Business 133 Hill Ave — Construction of garage APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve the minutes of November 10, 2015, as submitted. The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel. The motion passed unanimously. ITEMS TABLED: None Design Review Subcommittee — November 24, 2015 Page 2 of 4 NEW BUSINESS: 133 Hill Avenue — Construction of Garage The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a new garage. Currently, there is no garage on property. The proposed 20x20 garage will be located towards the rear of the property and will include the following: wood construction, gabled roof with a 10:12 pitch, paneled overhead door, and paneled service door. Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications: Secondary Buildings: Garages, Sheds, Other Outbuildings A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in nature. B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of the associated dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms if the dwelling has a hipped roof etc. C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally designated districts. These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling; D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to the associated dwelling; E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible from the street, secondary buildings may have exterior substitute siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim and exposure and cementitious materials. F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages, wood paneled doors are more appropriate than paneled doors of vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood paneled overhead roll -up doors are widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty -two feet. G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but windows may not be appropriate in every case for garage doors. H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be painted to match the house and set off the relief of the panels. I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with traditionally designed structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed to be used. J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots. Staff Recommendation: Staff would recommend approval if the following conditions are met: 1. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar (no knots) and installed smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding. Fiber cement board siding is also acceptable as the garage will be placed further back on the site and not readily visible from the right -of -way. 2. That the siding and trim is to be painted a color to match or complement the existing house colors. Design Review Subcommittee — November 24, 2015 Page 3 of 4 3. That the garage roof matches the house in slope and form, but be no less than a 6:12 slope. 4. That the eaves shall not be boxed but shall match the eaves of existing house. 5. That the frieze board dimensions match existing house. The frieze board shall be a minimum of 8" (not to exceed 10 ") to match house. The frieze board shall be painted. 6. Overhead garage must have recessed panels to match applicant's front elevation drawing (submitted 11/19/15). 7. All other details to match applicant's drawings (submitted 11/19/15). 8. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations. Matt Ellett (owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion: No plans to install gutters on this garage. Roof pitch of house is 12:12. Although a 10:12 pitch on the garage will not look out of place since the garage is set so far back on the lot. However the 12:12 pitch should be used. Side of gable should have a level soffit. Bed molding should be added under the soffit too. Siding should be clear cedar siding or Hardy board, matching the profile of the house. Trim boards need to be padded to provide the 1/4" reveal beyond the siding chosen. Overhead door will not have lites. Service door is not visible from street. Steel or fiberglass door can be used. Proposed six panel design is allowable, since it is not visible from the street. General discussion regarding fence along northern property line. Owner would need to obtain building permit and COA approvals for modifications to existing fence. Motion mode by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve as amended by staff with the following amendments: 1) 12:12 roof pitch preferred, 10:12 minimum; 2) Bed molding to be added under the soffit; 3) Pad out all trim boards provide aY." reveal beyond the siding; 4) Steel door allowable for service entry door; 5) Gutters are optional; 6) Cut rafter tails to 3 %" in height, square edges and enclose soffit. Add 1x2 crown /trim board around structure; and 7) Fascia board should be 1x6. The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow. The motion passed unanimously. ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS: Staff visit to 265 Lessenden Place — Former Chicken Coop? Street pavers were found inside and near the structure. Christen described the one wall having stone work, ledger board, pavers, another ledger and additional pavers headed towards the ceiling. This paver brick state "BARR "; which were manufactured between 1892 - 1923. Design Review Subcommittee — November 24, 2015 Page 4 of 4 Quite a few of these pavers are on site. After the remediation of asbestos, the pavers could be salvaged along with other possible items. Fiberglass window material for replacements A homeowner was inquiring regarding the possible use of fiberglass window replacements. Vinyl material is expressly prohibited in the Design Guideline Manual. The guidelines does not have any details regarding this material for windows. However as time goes on, new materials are manufactured and require review and consideration by the committee and commission for potential use. Concerns expressed by the committee included: • Profile of window • Styles of window available • Color of material • Expansion and shrinkage To consider this material for future projects, staff will need to find independent study of fiberglass windows; since manufacturers tend to tweak numbers in their favor. Commissioners have found quality solid wood and wood with aluminum clad windows via manufacturers such as Marvin, Pella and Anderson. Of course the first question would be, are the existing windows in such poor condition that replacement is required; and not repair of the original windows. CORRESPONDENCE: None ADJOURNMENT: Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson. The motion was seconded by Committee Member Hunter. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Cindy A. Walden Approved: Design Review Subcommittee Secretary January 12, 2016