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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
The Elgin Heritage Commission holds its Regular Meetings on the 1st Tuesday of each month
at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, second floor,North Tower of the Elgin Municipal Building.
The Design Review Subcommittee are held on the 2nd and 4th Tuesday's of every month
at 6:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, second floor,North Tower of the Elgin Municipal Building.
First Tuesday Second Tuesday Fourth Tuesday
Heritage Commission Design Review Design Review
Regular Meeting Subcommittee Subcommittee
7:00 p.m. 6:00 p.m. 6:00 p.m.
No Meeting**** January 8 No Meeting **
February 5 February 12 No Meeting **
March 5 March 12 March 26
April 2 April 9 April 23
No meeting * May 14 May 28
June 4 June 11 June 25
July 2 July 9 July 23
August 6 August 13 August 27
September 3*** September 10 September 24
October 1 October 8 October 22
November 5 November 12 November 26
No meeting * December 10 No meeting **
* Heritage Commission meetings will not be held in May and December; due to special events.
** Design Review Subcommittee will not meet on the 4th Tuesday in January, February or
December unless multiple agenda items are brought forth for review.
*** The September 3rd meeting will be relocated due to conflict with other meeting room schedules.
Alternative location will be noted on the agenda.
****The January 2"d Heritage Commission meeting will not be held due to a lack of business.
Each meeting is subject to change of location. The agenda will reflect the location for the current meeting.
Note: COA applications and supporting information for Design Review Subcommittee meetings need to
be submitted at least ten days prior to the meeting.
Contact Person: Amy Munro
Historic Preservation and Grants Planner
(847)931-6004
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,January 8, 2013- 6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. November 13, 2012
2. November 27, 2012
3. December 11, 2012
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 932 Brook St—Install windows
2. 384 Raymond St— Install exterior siding
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
2. 56 N. Channing- (9.25.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
January 8, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Briska, Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segal (6:02), Steve Stroud and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
932 Brook St— Install windows
384 Raymond St— Install exterior siding (withdrawn by applicant from tonight's meeting)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the minutes of November 13,
2012, as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously (6-0).
ITEMS TABLED:
None •
NEW BUSINESS:
932 Brook St— Install windows
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
replace all of the windows located on the southwest corner of the building's rear addition (see
applicant's sketch, Exhibit D). The applicant has proposed Jeld-Wen aluminum clad wood
awning windows for four of the windows (identified on the applicant's sketch, Exhibit D), with
the remaining windows to be single light Jeld-Wen, aluminum clad wood windows. The
applicant has also proposed the removal of the aluminum from the exterior walls and
requested to replace it with a natural stone (Birchstone style)to complement the building's
existing exterior brickwork. The applicant would also like to adjust the window height by 11"
and use colored aluminum ("French Vanilla) as infill. All changes proposed by the applicant have
been done in a manner to complement the house's existing architectural details and materials.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
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H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
The Design Guidelines permit greater latitude for alterations that are not visible from the public
right-of-way and for building additions. Because of the location of the proposed COA project on
the building's rear elevation and its lack of public visibility together with the applicant's effort
to make changes that contribute to preserving the cohesiveness of the rear addition's design
and color, Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Dale& Pat Johnson (owners) were present for tonight's COA discussion.
The existing windows are aluminum with wood supports between. The wood has rotted from
water damage. New windows are wood interior with aluminum cladding. On each elevation,
two awning style windows will be installed to allow air flow. On the south elevation there are a
total of six windows; four will be stationary, and the two windows farthest east will have the
awning style windows. On the west elevation there are a total of three windows; one will be
stationary, and the two farthest north will be awning style. Vertical trim boards will be
approximately 4 %2-5" wide. The trim board will go from the soffit to the floor every two
windows on the south elevation. All trim boards will be covered with aluminum (painted
French Vanilla to match house trim) for maintenance purposes.
Above the windows, there will be an 11" drop of the soffit; which is needed to support the roof
properly. Below the windows, currently is 22" wood base; which will be changed to stonework.
Committee Comments:
Below the window, the stonework will probably need to be raised to 36" to meet Code
requirements; otherwise tempered glass will be required and the awing style window would
need to be at the top portion of the window. Staff will work with applicant for final building
requirements.
Need to install a cap/sill below the window and above the stonework.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as amended (stonework to be 36"
height to meet CODE compliance).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
Additional Staff Comments:
384 Raymond St—Staff explained the applicant requested the COA hearing be postponed until
the February 2013 meeting; to allow additional time to provide complete details for review.
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:36 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. 110ILen Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary C1�/y/
I
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. December 11, 2012
2. January 8, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 1028 Douglas Ave. — Reconstruct front porch columns
2. 514 Sherman Ave. —Install windows and doors
3. 358 Bent St. — Reconstruct rear staircase
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St— Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
2. 56 N. Channing- (9.25.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Proposed — Minutes - Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
February 12, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:04 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Pat Segel, Steve Stroud and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Briska, Bill Ristow and Scott Savel
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
1028 Douglas Ave. —Reconstruct front porch columns
514 Sherman Ave. —Install windows and doors
358 Bent St. —Reconstruct rear staircase
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve the minutes December 11, 2012
and January 8, 2013, as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
1028 Douglas Ave. — Reconstruct front porch columns
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
four deteriorating wood columns with replacements-in-kind. The columns have been destroyed
by carpenter ants. The petitioner's proposed replacement includes four wooden columns with
caps and bases. The columns will be primed and painted white.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Thomas C. Rydell(owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Committee members noted the existing columns have unique/ornate fluting at the about the
ring at the top of the column. The design should be preserved or replicated.
Composite bases with venting will benefit the replacement column; combating both moisture
and the carpenter ants direct access to the wood.
Soft pine material should not be used for replacement column, as they fail too quickly.
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve as amended by committee: 1)
Custom wood replacement column replicating existing column details, or 2) Cut below existing
fluting and ring, and replace lower portion of the round column in same style and size.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
514 Sherman Ave. —Install windows and doors
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement windows and
doors and to remove the southeast (front) and east (side) entrances. The house is a two-unit
building and the property owner is converting the building to a single family residence. The
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property owner will cover over the removed door openings with cedar shake siding to match
the building's existing siding.
The property owner has also requested the replacement of the majority of the building's
windows. Upon review of the estimates and to assure the uniformity of the windows, the
applicant's request is to replace all of the building's existing and missing double-hung windows
as well as the basement windows, and to install aluminum clad wood replacement double-hung
windows. In addition to the window specifications, the property owner has submitted cost
estimates for the repair vs. the replacement of the windows. The following numbers reflect the
associated window repair/replacement costs:
1. Complete window restoration - $38,900.00.
2. Partial window restoration (framing only) - $19,900.00.
3. Complete window replacement with double-hung, aluminum clad wood windows -
$15,593.03. (To reduce the costs, the property owner would install the windows.)
The property owner intends to rehabilitate the 1St story picture window (located on the south
elevation) and two single light windows located on the west and east elevations. Due to
Building Code and safety concerns, he would like to remove a single light 2nd story window
opening entirely. This opening would be covered over by cedar shake siding. The property
owner's preference is to replace the southwest enclosed porch windows; however, he is open
to rehabilitating the windows upon recommendation of the DRSC.
The applicant has discussed the front door replacement with Staff and per the Guidelines,
would like to replace the existing door with a solid core fiberglass, % half light, 2 panel entry
door. For the rear and side entrances, the applicant has proposed 6 panel steel entry doors.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
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D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as
their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Doors and Door Features
A. Should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the
dwelling. Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style,
glazing (type of glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid
core fiberglass is acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. Should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or
Italianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style
of the house, if applicable.
D. Should only involve artificial materials such as "lexan" or other acrylic based
materials, if applicable.
E. Should not be removed or altered. The original size of the door opening should
not be enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. Should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
Staff Recommendation:
Although the Guidelines emphasize repair over replacement, factors to consider in window
replacement include costs associated with the repair vs. replacement. Should the cost of
window replacement outweigh the cost to repair the windows, replacement is viewed as an
appropriate option. Given the cost estimates submitted by the property owner, the window
replacement appears to be the more cost-effective alternative.
Therefore, Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted
and with the following condition:
1. That the front door specifications be approved by Staff prior to installation.
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Raoul Negron(contractor)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Applicant explained majority of the windows were 50-60% damaged due to water seeping into
the building during the foreclosure process. There are a few windows he would like to keep
and maintain.
A photo of the home from days gone by, indicate the left side of the front of the house was an
open porch, and the right side was the main entrance. Committee is not inclined to approve
the removal of the original right side entrance.
Details were also discussed regarding the rear left side of the house, which at one time had a
small open porch. A portion of the 2nd floor to the rear of the house appears to be an add-on
for the existing bathroom. Tan existing small 2'x2' window is located on the 2nd floor rear right
(north) side of the house about 6-8" from the floor. Committee felt the window may have been
for a former interior stairway window (stairway eliminated over the years to make additional
interior floor area).
Committee discussed the style of the house and the types of windows and porches that would
typically be appropriate for such homes. The front window was typically had a large single
stationary pane with stained glass above or above and along the side of the single pane. Porch
cover details (roofs and brackets)would range from very simple to slightly ornate. Chairman
Stroud provided several images of other similar porch details from various homes in the area
for the applicant and contactor to see (on the overhead projection).
The request to remove the 2nd floor 2' x2' window and 1st floor doorway and roof cap on the
north elevation did not meet opposition. Staggered cedar shake siding to be installed, and
would be closely matched the existing profile and texture.
The following windows are to be retained and restored: 1) front window (including the muntins
for the 20 panes exposure); 2) two single pane windows along the existing interior staircase; 3)
five windows on porch (left side of house) to have multi-muntins on top over single pane. The
two outer windows will have 2 muntins; while the three inner windows will have 3 muntins.
Both front doors should match and have 1/2 lites with two vertical panels; in either solid wood or
fiberglass. South side entrance and rear entrance doors should not be 6 panels (steel or
otherwise); a 4 panel fiberglass door would be more appropriate aesthetically.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve COA per amendments by the
committee: 1) Rear and side to be 4 panel (either solid wood or fiberglass); 2) Front doors to
match in design, %2 lite over 2 vertical panels; and 3) Windows to be restored (as noted above);
remaining windows to be replaced per specifications submitted with COA application.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
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358 Bent St.— Reconstruct rear staircase
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
reconstruct the building's rear deck and staircase. The dilapidated condition of the deck and
staircase is not code compliant and the property owner has submitted an application to address
the safety issues. The property owner has also submitted architectural drawings for the
proposed deck and staircase reconstruction project.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Decks
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings only, where they are not readily visible from
the street.
B. should be stained with an opaque stain or painted to blend with the colors of the
dwelling.
C. should be kept simple in design. Wood decks are recommended to have traditional
style wood balusters complementary to the design of the building.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness if the following
conditions are met:
1. The handrail shall have 2 x 4 top and bottom rails with chamfered edges, with 3/"cove
molding.
2. The newel posts shall have 6" ball cap.
3. The stair tread shall be constructed in 2x12 lumber and the treads shall be bull-nosed
with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10" wide.
4. Risers, max. 7 3/4", flush with stringer.
5. The skirting board shall be 1x4 vertical boards and installed behind the 1x6 frame, 1"
spacing with 8" header.
6. All deck and stair elements to be wood and stained or primed and painted (opaque stain
is acceptable).
7. All remaining details shall match the architectural drawings.
Casey Tomoen (contractor for Property Solutions)was present for tonight's COA discussion
Proposed posts are 4x4, which would need to be wrapped the entire post trim to installing
detail/trim work or installed as 6x6.
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By using a 6x6, the posts would only need to be wrapped at the top of bottom. Lower to be 8"
high and beveled at the top. Top wrapping to be either a 1x3 or 1x4 and beveled on the lower
portion of the wrap. Above the top wrapping, a 2 by flat cap beveled on the top edge; then top
with a 6" ball.
All skirt (rim joist) should 8" for consistency.
The 12" treads have a tendency to warp. Treads should be two 6" boards (separated by a
pencil width). Front board will need to be bull nosed with a 1" overhang on front and sides.
Proposed 5/4" treated decking boards have the slightly rounded edges and would be allowable
for a rear deck/porch (not visible from the street).
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve as amended by staff and
committee comments including: 1) 6x6 posts with trim details noted above; 2) skirting/rim joist
to be 8"; and 3) treads to be two 6" boards with details as noted above.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
Additional Staff Comments:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. Walden Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, March 12, 2013- 6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. February 12, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 486 Park St— Install Garage Door
2. 446 Park St—Install Windows
3. 303 Douglas— Install Rear Deck/Stoop
4. 414 N. Spring St— Front Porch Repair
5. 384 Raymond St— Install Siding
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
2. 56 N. Channing- (9.25.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
March 12, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Bill Ristow, Pat Segel, Scott Save!, Steve Stroud and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Briska
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
486 Park St—Install Garage Door
446 Park St—Install Windows
303 Douglas—Install Rear Deck/Stoop
414 N. Spring St—Front Porch Repair
384 Raymond St—Install Siding
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve the February 12, 2013 minutes, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
414 N. Spring St —Tabled due to non-representation.
384 Raymond St—Tabled for soffit removal and window restoration detailed information to be
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added to applicant's work plan proposal.
NEW BUSINESS:
486 Park St—Install Garage Door
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to repair
the trim detail on the garage and to replace the garage overhead door. The existing garage
door is deteriorating. To accommodate the replacement door installation and operation, the
property owner has proposed the removal of the angled upper corners of the garage door
frame by squaring the corners and would also like to repair other minor trim details around the
opening.
The proposed door specifications are attached (Clopay#4050). The proposed door will be
white, short paneled (raised), solid-core metal and without windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garage Doors
A. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair, they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design and period of construction of the garage.
B. Should be raised panel designs, with a solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs.
Flush design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional
doors and hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
C. Should have windows simple in design with clear glass, if windows are necessary.
Muntins in a simple design may also be used.The use of ornamental stained glass and
openings in decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
D. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in a color appropriate to the
period of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Aaron Heider(owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Mr. Heider noted the alterations to the garage door opening and explained why the squared
corners needed to be modified to accommodate the garage door replacement
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve as submitted. The motion was
seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
446 Park St. —Install windows
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to replace all of the
windows on the house (20). Several of the existing windows are vinyl and the replacement
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windows have been proposed in an effort to preserve window uniformity. With the exception
of the basement windows which will be wood awning, the remaining windows will be replaced
with Pella Architect Series double-hung, aluminum clad wood windows. The project has been
funded through Community Contacts Inc.'s Housing Rehabilitation Program.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the proposed replacement basement windows mimic the existing divided 3-light
design.
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2. That the existing basement storm windows be repaired and re-installed.
Richie Belcastro, Community Contacts(contractor)and Isabel and William Vega were present for
tonight's COA discussion.
Mr. Belcastro advised the Committee that with the exception of the basement wooden
windows, the existing windows openings had either vinyl or storm windows installed. Although
replacement windows for the basement were proposed, he expressed his willingness to follow
the direction of the Committee's request with regard to their preservation.
The Committee discussed the proposed front picture window replacement and noted that two
double-hung windows, similar to those located on the house's side (east) elevation, be installed
rather than the proposed single window. The Committee members also discussed the
basement window styles and options for their preservation. It was recommended that efforts
to repair the windows be pursued. If the basement window preservation is not possible, than
the other option would be to install aluminum clad wood windows with three divided lights to
match the existing windows' pattern. The Committee advised that snap in muntins are not
permitted.
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve COA per amendments by the
committee: 1) Windows to be replaced and restored (as noted above); remaining windows to
be replaced per specifications submitted with COA application.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
303 Douglas Ave.— Install rear deck/stoop
The property owners have submitted an application to install a rear deck/stoop. In May 2012,
the property owners submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to replace the rear deck,
doors, repair the roof, and replace the basement windows. The application included blueprints
for the deck installation which were approved by the Design Review Subcommittee (DRSC) on
May 22, 2012. Since that time, the property owner has revised the rear deck/stoop plans and
resubmitted a new drawing (attached).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Decks
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings only, where they are not readily visible from
the street.
B. should be stained with an opaque stain or painted to blend with the colors of the
dwelling.
C. should be kept simple in design. Wood decks are recommended to have traditional
style wood balusters complementary to the design of the building.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
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B. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
1. The decking shall be 1x4,wood preferred but composite material is acceptable (such as
Azek, tongue and groove flooring)
2. The decking must run perpendicular to the house.
3. The handrail shall be at a minimum 30" but no more than 36" in height above finished
floor.
4. The handrails shall have a 2x4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, 2" AFF.
5. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, %" cove, 2x2 square
balusters, with a maximum of 3" on center, square corners, SFS. To ensure that the
balusters have straight corners rather than round corners, it is recommended that the
balusters be cut from 4x4s.
6. The newel posts shall have a top and bottom 4x4 wrapped square design with a 2x flat
top, beveled edge, and 6" ball cap.The newel post top wrapping shall be either 1 x3 or 1
x 4 and beveled on the lower section.
7. The skirt frame shall have a 1x8 top board, 1x6 side boards, and a 1x4 lower board.
8. The skirting board shall be 1x4 vertical boards and installed behind the frame, 1" spacing
with 8" header.
9. The stair tread shall be constructed in 2x12 lumber and the treads shall be bull-nosed
with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10" wide.
10. That all other details to match the applicant's drawing.
11. That the deck/stoop details shall be primed and painted.
12. That all applicable permits will be obtained prior to beginning any work.
Edgar Perez on behalf of Maria Cortez(Property Owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion
The Committee discussed the applicant's submitted drawing. Questions were raised regarding
the need for an extra tread and riser and staff was directed to verify whether an additional step
is needed. Also, Committee members recommended that the newel post located by the entry
door on the applicant's drawing be removed and that wrapping be added to the top and
bottom of the newel post.
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve as amended by staff and
committee comments including: 1) newel post should die at the house 2) vertical skirting
should be added 3) wrapping should be added to the top and bottom of the newel posts 4) that
the balustrade should die at the house and 5) construction should follow staff drawing.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
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Additional Staff Comments:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro Approved: April 9, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 414 N. Spring St— Front Porch Repair (Tabled 3-12-14)
2. 384 Raymond St.—Install Siding (Tabled 3-12-14)
F. New Business
1. 100 E. Chicago St—Stealth Wall Installation
2. 815 N. Grove— House Construction (Concept approval request)
3. 500 S. Liberty—Window Installation; Front Door Installation
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
2. 56 N. Channing- (9.25.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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Minutes- Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
March 26, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:02 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Ristow, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel, Pat Segal, Steve Stroud and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Briska and John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
414 N.Spring St—Front Porch Repair(Tabled 3-12-14)
384 Raymond St—Install Siding(Tabled 3-12-14)
New Business
100 E. Chicago St—Stealth Wall Installation
819 N. Grove Ave (vacant lot directly north of 815 N. Grove Ave)—House Construction (Concept
approval request of Prairie Style house)
500 S. Liberty St—Window Installation; Front Door Installation
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were presented for consideration.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
OLD BUSINESS:
Agenda Item El (414 N Spring St) was not heard tonight. Applicant had contacted staff prior to
the meeting and requested the item be heard at the next DRSC meeting due to appointment
conflict.
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Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to un-table item E2 for discussion
(representatives for the properties in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Segal.
The motion passed unanimously.
384 Raymond St—Install Siding(Tabled 3-12-14)
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE MARCH 12,2013 MEETING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO BE
OUTLINED WITHIN THE APPLICANT'S WORK PLAN PROPOSAL. THE ATTACHED PROPOSAL INCLUDES NEW
SPECIFICATIONS;HOWEVER,AN UPDATED VERSION WILL BE EMAILED ON MONDAY, MARCH 25,2013.
The application to install James Hardie cement fiber siding with a 4" exposure on the house and
garage was first brought before the Design Review Subcommittee (DRSC) on October 9, 2012.
An on-site special meeting was conducted on October 15, 2012, with subsequent discussion
taking place at the DRSC's October 23, 2012 and November 13, 2012 meetings. Upon review of
the proposed project in conjunction with the Design Guidelines,the DRSC made the
determination that over 50%of the building's original siding is intact and denied the application
of the James Hardie cement fiber siding.
The DRSC denied the applicant's request, but approved the COA based upon their October 23,
2012 and November 13, 2012 recommendations.
Following the November 13, 2012 DRSC COA denial of the COA as submitted, the property filed
filed an appeal request. A public hearing was conducted on December 20, 2012 by the Heritage
Commission. Following the close of the public hearing,the Commission conducted a special
meeting and voted unanimously to uphold the denial decision of the DRSC.
Given the questions related to the percentage of intact siding,the Commission discussed a
willingness to consider the application of the James Hardie Board siding in the event that the
property owner provided a specific plan for the property that would address the window
setback,window cap, historic architectural feature restoration as per the shadow lines,
aluminum soffit removal, and other associated issues on the building. Staff communicated the
Commission's discussion with the property owner and his contractor.
On January 4, 2013, the property owner requested to withdraw his appeal, and authorized his
contractor to pursue the submission of a new COA that would address the Commission's
request for detailed specifications. The contractor has submitted a work plan (attached) which
includes information pertaining to the restoration of the window hood architectural details.
Previously,fiber cement board material was discussed for use in the restoration of the window
• architectural details; however, the applicant has proposed that the details be reconstructed
with wood. The contractor intends to subcontract the window restoration work to a historic
preservation firm.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Wood Siding _
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A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary, wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath synthetic
sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired and the synthetic sidings
removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings,the original siding should be repaired
to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing
features are revealed,these should generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features
are not replaced,they should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future
replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle siding is
deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with wood or other
substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow hazardous material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or aluminum,
if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-based materials such
as particleboard, gyp board, or pressboard. These materials generally do not possess
textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However, if more than 50%of
the original siding material is damaged beyond repair, or missing, substitute materials may
be applied if the following conditions are met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of substitute
materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be smooth without
knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board stock is
preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards, base boards, molding
and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as closely as
possible. The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to prevent moisture
damage.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval of the COA to install siding on the house and garage together
with painting the house if the following conditions are met:
HOUSE SIDING INSTALLATION
Staff has provided recommendations for two scenarios for the house siding installation:
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1. Wood siding preservation.
2. Install fiber cement siding.
Option#1— Wood siding preservation
Entire House
1. That cedar be used for the window trim and hood restoration.
2. That the aluminum soffit is removed.
3. That the new siding beveled with reveal (approximately 4—5") to match the existing
siding profile.
4. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners and
around doors and windows, which includes but is not limited to the corner boards and
front window caps.
5. Patch nail holes with putty, epoxy preferred.
6. Replacement corner boards must be 5/4 x 4(except front east porch) with% round in
the corner.
7. Water tables and drip caps shall be replaced and/or installed as necessary.
8. Window infill must be staggered into existing siding.
9. All window trim, hoods, and drip edges that have been exposed shall be
repaired/replaced with replacements-in-kind.
10. False window casing should be removed to expose missing details; repair/replaced with
replacements-in-kind.
11. Window drip caps must be installed.
12. If existing%: round gutters are removed,they must be reinstalled.
13. All wood must be primed and painted.
Front(East)Elevation
14. Porch siding must match existing siding, 1 x 3 corner board
15. A water table should be added.
North Elevation
16. Interior corner board (5/4) should be installed to clearly delineate the house addition.
The water table should be set slightly higher from the original section of the house.
17. Window hoods are not to be added.
Rear(West)Elevation
18. Clapboard siding and water table to be exposed above the foundation line.
19. The property owner together with City staff shall choose one of the following three
options for the siding installation (options are listed in order of priority).
• Siding should be removed from below the water table to expose the concrete
foundation.
• Siding should be removed from below the water table and replaced with vertical bead
board.
• Siding installation should cover the entire elevation, extending to the ground level.
South Elevation
20.The siding located on the south entry addition shall remain as is.
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Option#2-Fiber Cement Board Installation
1. That the fiber cement board be installed in a profile to match the existing original
clapboard profile.
2. That the aluminum soffit be removed.
3. That the window historic architectural details be restored.
4. That all preceding steps identified in Option#1, with the exception of those related to
the installation of cedar siding, be followed.
5. All wood must be primed and painted.
6. That all remaining details follow the applicant's submitted work plan.
GARAGE SIDING INSTALLATION
1. New fiber cement siding shall be installed to match the house siding profile, material,
and exposure and must run down each elevation.
2. Install corner boards and trim boards for windows,garage door opening and service
door.
SCRAPE AND PAINT:
1. No power washing.
2. Original clapboards should be lightly sanded and washed. It is recommended that TSP
solution be used to clean the exterior siding. Rinse. Allow to thoroughly dry.
3. All wood must be primed and painted.
4. That all remaining details follow the applicant's submitted work plan.
Daniel Raffo(representative for contractor)was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Under the aluminum soffit, no brackets were found. The bed molding will remain; replace as
needed (in kind).
Example images#1&2 provided to applicant of siding details lining up properly.
Trim around the windows were discussed. Concern of hardy board being used for trim; and the
need to have a minimum of 1/8" revel. Siding is not to project beyond the corner and/or trim
boards.
Interior corners to be 5/4 x 2.5".
Drip cap/table to be replicated is a piece is found. If not, 1 x 4.5"with 1"tapered molding
above. Molding projection to be a minimum of 1" past the table.
Front windows to be flashed above.
Corner boards to be hardy board or wood.
Window trim boards to be wood.
West elevation only: Siding will be divided by the water table. Lower portion can be either
4'x8' hardy board sheets or hardy board installed vertically.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff comments, as amended.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
100 E. Chicago St—Stealth Wall Installation
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to install
three stealth walls on the Tower Building (local landmark).The proposed antennas, in the form of a
"stealth wall"will not greatly detract from the overall character of the building.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
New Commercial Construction
A. should be at the rear of the building.
B. should be compatible with the original building in scale, proportion and rhythm of
openings, and size.
D. should be of exterior materials similar to the existing building.
E. should not be vertical. Rooftop penthouses and additional stories should not be
constructed unless the addition will not be readily visible from the street or other
pedestrian viewpoints. Roof additions should be set back from the main facade.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval of the COA as submitted with the following condition:
1. That the color and texture of the stealth walls match the color and material of the
Tower Building's exterior.
Wan Chayitmis (AT&T Mobile representative) was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Example of stealth wall. The wall is to shield the antennas. Antennas are 6' high, and wall is
12'7". There are six (6) antennas on site currently. AT&T will be adding two (2) more.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Segal.
The motion passed unanimously.
Empty lot north of 815 N. Grove Ave—House Construction (Concept approval request)
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a house on the
subject empty lot. This is for concept approval only. The owner will submit drawings with final
design and dimension details based upon the recommendations of the DRS. The applicant is
looking for suggestions and guidance on whether or not a project of this scope, on the front of
the house, would be approved.
Context:
The area surrounding the subject lot is diverse in architectural style. Most notably, directly
west of the lot is the classical revival style David C. Cook Building. Directly south of the property
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is a vernacular cross gable farmhouse (815 Grove[C]). Directly east of the property is green
space. Directly north of the subject property is green space.
Other housing styles along the block include the following:
53 Slade Ave.—Side Gable Cottage, circa 1957 (NC)
853 Grove—Bungalow, circa 1915 (NC)
851 Grove—Ranch, circa 1951(NC)
845 Grove—Side Gable, 1902 (C)
811 Grove—Gabled Ell Cottage, 1959 (NC)
54 Lincoln—Spanish Eclectic, circa 1930(5)
The applicant's proposed residential design is for a 1400-1600 sq.ft. single story prairie style
house. The submitted sketch is based upon an online pattern found by the applicant.The
intent of the applicant is to use brick that would match the David C. Cook Building's brick in
color. The applicant also intends to incorporate the David C. Cook property's landscaping
features within his residential landscaping.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Primary Buildings-New Construction
A. should maintain, not disrupt,the existing pattern of surrounding historic buildings along the
street by being similar in:
1. Shape.Variations of asymmetrical, rectangular, and square forms are most appropriate
for the locally designated districts;
2. Scale(height and width). New construction should not vary more than one-half story
from the predominate building height typical of dwellings along a block. In most blocks
of the designated districts this would require new construction to be no more than two-
and-one-half stories;
3. Orientation to the street. Most dwellings in Elgin's locally designated districts have their
primary facades and main entrances oriented towards the street and this characteristic
should be maintained in any new construction;
4. Roof shape and pitch. Roof slope ratio for new construction should be a minimum of
6:12 to a maximum of 12:12 (6:12 refers to six inches of rise to 12 inches of run in
measuring slopes). Roof forms of gable and hipped variations are more common on
most blocks than roof forms which are flat, mansard, or gambrel forms;
5. Placement on the lot. Front and side yard setbacks should respect the setbacks found
along the block on which the building is sited.
6. Location and proportion of porches,entrances,and divisional bays. Porches should
have roof forms of gable, hipped or shed design and at least cover the entrance. Porches
extending partially or fully across the front of the building are recommended. Porches
should have columns and railings with balusters that are traditional in design and
compatible with the overall character of the building.
7. Location and proportion of windows. New window openings should be rectangular in
shape. Window proportions on the main facade should not exceed three-to-one in the
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height/width ratio or be any less than two-to-one in the height/width ratio (two-to-one
proportions are preferred). No horizontal sash, casement, or awning type windows
should be placed on the fronts of buildings. Special window types (i.e. oriel, bay,
stained, beveled glass) may be considered when compatible with the new structure's
design as well as the surrounding area;
8. Foundation height. Height of foundations should generally be similar to foundation
heights in the area. Foundation heights can increase along the sides or at the rear of a
building if necessary to follow slope contours. No slab foundations or at-grade
foundations should be utilized on the fronts or readily visible sides of buildings;
9. Porch height and depth. Porch heights and depths should be consistent with those of
adjacent dwellings;
10. Material and material color.
a. Foundations: Most historic dwelling foundations are of stone or cast concrete and new
construction should continue the appearance of these foundation materials. Poured
concrete, concrete block, and split faced concrete are acceptable foundation materials.
Stucco or other finishes are recommended to provide a textured surface.
b. Brick Dwellings: If the new construction is of brick,the brick should closely match typical
mortar and brick color tones found in the locally designated districts and along the
block. White or light mortars provide too much contrast with typical dark brick colors
and should be avoided.
c. Frame Dwellings: If the new construction is of frame,the preferred exterior material is
wood or a material which is similar to original materials in the area like clapboard,
shingle, stucco, etc.The use of cement board siding, or similar materials is acceptable if
it meets size recommendations and proper construction detailing of traditional siding
materials. If wood siding is used; its exposure should reflect the exposure of traditional
wood siding.
d. Windows:Wood construction is preferred for windows. However, the use of aluminum
clad windows is also acceptable as long as they are sized to be compatible with historic
window openings. The use of dark tinted windows, reflective glass and coatings for
windows is discouraged on readily visible sides of buildings.
11. Details and texture.The details and textures of building materials should be applied in a
manner consistent with traditional construction methods and compatible with
surrounding structures.
Staff Recommendation:
Although the houses located to the north and south of the property together with the D.C.
Cook building are of different styles, efforts to complement the commonalities of these houses
and those within the neighborhood, e.g. roof pitch, window openings, material, color etc.
should be reflected in the final drawing.
Staff recommends consideration of the concept with the condition that the applicant will
submit finalized drawings for approval by the DRSC.
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Doug Tomsha (prospective land buyer) was present to discuss the concept for new construction
of a single family residence. Plans being considered are 2600sf to 3200sf"Wright" style,which
can be modified to be much smaller.
Architectural features from D.C. Cook building across the street might be used. Same or similar
color brick with smaller mortar joints.
Other"Wright" homes are found several blocks away from this lot.
Proposing house without a garage. Staff explained city municipal code requires one off street
parking must be provided within an enclosed structure.
Single family with a loft (glass area) above.
Final drawings would be brought back to the committee for final review of architectural
features.
Committee indicated the structure should have piers and/or sandstone(elements of other
prairie style)from the neighborhood. Simplier design should be used for the prairie style
(corner stones, add some wood possibly, appearance of wood banding).
No action taken at this time. Applicant will need to return with complete design details for
final review consideration.
500 S. Liberty—Window Installation; Front Door Installation
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to replace
a door and install two windows.The COA has been submitted as a corrective action to the
property owner's installation of two vinyl windows and a front door without a COA. To correct
the violation, the applicant has proposed the removal of the vinyl windows and the installation
of wood sash double-hung windows on the front bay window and rear 2"d story, bedroom
window.The existing front door style is a % light door with a decorative glass. Staff has
discussed the window detail with the applicant and advised that the curvilinear detail is not
sympathetic to the bungalow style house. The applicant has expressed a willingness to replace
the front door window with non-decorative glass.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size,and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair.As
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to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Doors and Door Features
A. Should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the
dwelling. Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style,
glazing (type of glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid
core fiberglass is acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. Should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or
Italianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style
of the house, if applicable.
D. Should only involve artificial materials such as "lexan" or other acrylic based
materials, if applicable.
E. Should not be removed or altered.The original size of the door opening should
not be enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. Should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval of the COA as submitted and with the following conditions:
1. That the replacement windows are wood double-hung and installed to match the
existing historic windows in size and dimension.
2. That the existing front decorative' light is removed and replaced with a plain % light.
Tim Ramseyer(owner)was present for tonight's discussion.
Front/bay window: Previously one very large two over one window. Vinyl windows were
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recently installed without permit. Prefer a single fixed window; with a meeting rail added.
Willing to install two double hung wood windows. Dimensions need to match opening. Fixed
window is acceptable.
Rear elevation: Operating window to be installed. Double hung one over one wood window to
fit original opening dimension.
Front door: Door installed without COA is not appropriate style. Need to install steel or
aluminum full view or% lite with two vertical panels below.
Inquiry of storm door: Full view style appropriate.
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve staff comments amended: 1)full
view storm door; 2)front window rails and styles to match existing window dimensions/details.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
Additional Staff Comments:
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
S/Cindy Walden
Cindy A.Walden Approved: May 28, 2013
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,April 9, 2013-6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 12, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 414 N. Spring St— Front Porch Repair (Tabled 3-26-13)
2. 384 Raymond St.—Siding Installation COA Clarification
F. New Business
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St— Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
2. 56 N. Channing- (9.25.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
April 9, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Briska,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Bill Ristow, Scott Savel, Steve Stroud and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Pat Segel
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
414 N. Spring St—Front Porch Repair
384 Raymond St—Install Siding
New Business
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve the March 12, 2013 minutes, as
amended.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed 6-0 with one abstention (Committee Member Briska).
ITEMS TABLED:
OLD BUSINESS
414 N.Spring St — Front Porch Repair(Tabled 3-26-13)
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE MARCH 26,2013 MEETING DUE TO LACK OF OWNER
REPRESENTATION.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
rehabilitate the front porch.The application has been submitted to address the property
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owner's front stair code violation. In addition to repairing the front stairs,the property owner's
petition includes repairing the front stair handrails, porch decking, and porch balustrade. The
proposed changes would be replacements-in-kind.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
C. should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal and
the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed behind
the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative details
or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircase and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
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C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
In the event that the front stairs need to be completely reconstructed,Staff recommends
approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
1. That the stair treads shall be 5/4x12 with bull-nose.Treads shall overhang riser by
no less than 1".
2. That the front stair handrails match the existing porch balustrade in dimension and
design.
3. That the stair handrail height is parallel to the porch handrail.
4. That the newel posts are attached to the bottom riser.
5. That the newel posts shall match the existing newel post located at the top of the
stairs in design and dimension.
6. That the porch flooring is 1 x 4 tongue and groove, wood preferred but composite
material is acceptable (such as Azek).
7. That all porch repairs and replacements match the porch's existing style and
materials.
Robert Plagemann (owner) was present for tonight's COA discussion.
Mr. Plagemann expressed his goal to rehabilitate all details of the porch as needed and with
replacements-in-kind; however, he will need to conduct the project in stages. The first priority
and to correct the Code issues, is the front steps. To address maintenance issues, Mr.
Plagemann inquired about coating the stairs and the porch flooring with a vinyl topcoat that he
observed on a house within his neighborhood; however,the Committee was unfamiliar with
the project. More information is needed to confirm the material type and its ability to meet the
Design Guidelines. Committee members suggested that the property owner provide staff with
the specific address.
The Committee discussed wood and wood composite options for the proposed project.
Members approved the use of clear wood, no knot, pressure treated wood for the stairs. Wood
composite was also approved; however, if used on the porch flooring, the floorboards the wood
composite would only be permitted if used on the entire floor only. Wood replacement boards
to match the existing flooring would be permitted. If using wood, Committee Members
recommended the use of Douglas Fir. Members also noted the unique handrailings. Any
replacement of balusters and other porch details must match the original style, profile, and
dimension.
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve as submitted.The motion was
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seconded by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
384 Raymond St—Siding Installation COA Clarification
At the contractor's request, Staff requested clarification on the Committee's approval of the
vapor barrier and A" fanfold installation. Previously, concern about the 1/8" reveal/minimum
setback requirement, led the Commission to recommend one or the other, but not both;
however, Ms. Munro advised that City Code requires the vapor barrier installation.
The Committee discussed the project and in an effort to assist the applicant in assuring that the
minimum setback was met, still advised against the fanfold installation. However, if the
contractor wishes to pursue the fanfold installation,the COA was approved for the 1/8"
minimum setback and therefore,the Commission said that the contractor may use his
discretion with installing both; however, in the event that the 1/8" setback is not met, the
project will need to be re-done.
NEW BUSINESS:
None.
Additional Staff Comments:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Committee Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
KNYtkr—
Amy Munro Approved: April 23, 2013
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, April 23, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. April 9, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 56 N. Channing— Front porch repair (9.25.12)
F. New Business
1. 270 Lessenden PI—Garage demolition
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-56161
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
April 23, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segal,Steve Stroud and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Briska
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Sarosh Saher Senior Planner; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
56 N. Channing—Front porch repair(9.25.12)
New Business
270 Lessenden PI—Garage demolition
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Roberson to approve the minutes of April 9, 2013, as
amended ("dimensions" bottom of page 3).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
None
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OLD BUSINESS:
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to un-table items El for discussion
(representatives for the properties in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
56 N. Channing—Front porch repair(9.25.12)
This item was tabled on September 25, 2012 due to the DRSC's request for detailed drawings
for the handrails. Prior to the September meeting,the applicant had appeared before the
DRSC (August 28, 2012) had been advised by the DRSC,that in the event that the stair handrail
was removed from the stairs, then new handrailings would be required that met the Design
Guidelines.At the September meeting meeting,also discussed was the new siding that had
been installed at the base of the columns without a Certificate of Appropriateness.The
applicant was advised to remove the wood shingles to expose the base.This has not been done;
however, Staff will obtain photos prior to the meeting.
Staff has shared design options with the property owner(attached) and the property owner will
install handrails to match the recommended drawings.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials,scale, and
placement.
C. should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal and
the open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed behind
the original features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative details
or result in the removal of original porch materials.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
G. should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
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Porch Columns and Railing
A. Should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the repairs with the following conditions:
1. That the stair handrail is parallel to the existing porch handrailing.That handrail is
attached to the columns'face.
2. The handrail shall have 2 x 4 top and bottom rails with chamfered edges,with%"cove
molding.
3. The newel posts shall be 4 x 4 wrapped lx or 6 x 6 (preferred as wrapping would only be
necessary at the top and bottom).The base shall be 1 x 8, beveled at the top. The top
wrapping shall be either 1 x3 or 1 x 4 and beveled on the lower section.
4. The newel posts shall have a 2x flat top, beveled edge, and 6" ball cap.
5. That the balusters are 2x2's with%" cove at top, and spaced no more than 3" on center.
To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than round. corners, it is
recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
6. That the newel posts are attached to the bottom riser.
7. That the newel posts shall be 6x6 chamfered posts with 1x4 wrapping and have a ball cap,
minimum of 5" (to match attached drawing).
8. All other details to match attached drawing
9. That the column base material be modified per the DRSC's recommendation.
Felipe Loe(owner)and John& Rosa Martinez (translator)were present for tonight's COA
discussion.
Handrail at top of porch must elbow 90 degrees to the column. A small (block)foot would be
needed below the lower railing. (example can be seen at 252 N. Liberty St).
Under the siding was 2x4s; no column/pier.
Need to build a column base with a flat panel. Raised or recessed detailing. Railings should be
attached to the panel (if possible).
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff comments and details
listed above.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
270 Lessenden PI—Garage demolition
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to demolish the
garage. The garage has several structural issues, including a collapsing rear roof. The property
owner is concerned about safety and vandalism to the building due to its existing condition as
well its location on property that contains a vacant house.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Demolition
A. should be avoided of any original feature or part of a pre-1945 building.
B. should not occur, unless:
1. An emergency condition exists and the public safety and welfare requires the
removal of the building or structure;
2. A building does not contribute to the historical or architectural character of the
districts and its removal will improve the appearance of the districts; or
3. The denial of the demolition will result in an Economic Hardship on the applicant
as determined by Chapter 20.10 of Title 20 of the Elgin Municipal Code—"Elgin
Historic Preservation Ordinance."
4. The denial of the demolition will impede rehabilitation, or redevelopment of the
site, and/or adjacent properties from substantially improving the aesthetic,
architectural or economic value of the affected properties and surrounding area.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Bob Trueblood (Fox River Water Reclamation District (FRWRD) representative) was present to
discuss the COA request.
Mr.Trueblood provided details regarding the future plans for underground water storage
tanks. Not only would the underground tanks assist with storm water; FRWRD would provide a
playground and open space for the community to use.
In the future, FRWRD would propose giving away the existing home(s) within the project area
to be relocated to other site(s).
Anticipate 2-4 years to final project decisions.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
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Additional Staff Comments:
None
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Briska.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. Walden Approved: May 28, 2013
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 26, 2013
2. April 23, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 940 S Spring St- Fence
2. 115 Lincoln Ave-Gazebo
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
May 14, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:03 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, Bill Briska,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Save!, Pat Segel and John
Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Sarosh Saher, Senior Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
New Business
1. 940 S Spring St- Fence
2. 115 Lincoln Ave-Gazebo
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes were deferred to the following meeting as not all Subcommittee members had
received them.
ITEMS TABLED:
No items were tabled.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. 940 S Spring St—Fence—Property owner: Cristina Castro
Project Background:
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The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to construct a 4.4 foot
high open picket fence in the side yard.The current height allowance for a fence of this type in this
location is 3%feet high.The fence is proposed to connect to an existing 6 foot high fence located within
the side yard of the property to the north.The length of fence proposed to be installed is approximately
8 feet.
The property owner is proposing to install the fence to screen the stoop located at the side entrance of
the house.The fence will also contain a gate to access the side yard.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
FENCES IN FRONT YARDS
I.should be no higher than 36 inches with the posts being slightly higher and having caps
J.should have pickets no wider than four inches with spacing between boards a minimum of one inch up
to the width of the board depending on the design of the fence.
FENCES IN REAR YARD
L. built for privacy should not extend beyond the rear yard beginning at the back corner of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted,since the impact of the
added height of the fence(1 foot)is minimal on the overall character of the house.
Questions were asked on what the design of the fence would be.
Ms. Castro responded that the fence would be wood with an arched top.The highest portion of
the fence would be 54 inches.The lower portions would be approximately 4 feet and would
connect to the adjacent fence to the north.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request for a COA as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
1. 115 Lincoln Ave-Gazebo
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to construct a
free standing gazebo at the rear of the house.The gazebo will be screened in,with an entrance
door.The screen panels will sit on a sold balustrade clad in cedar siding.The slope of the
gazebo roof is proposed at 12:4, with a 6 inch overhang.
The gazebo is proposed to be constructed at a location that will not be visible at all from a right-
of-way.The portion of this portion of property is surrounded by neighboring property.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Pergolas, Arbors, Gazebos, Fountains, Tree Houses, Ponds, And Statuary
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A. should be sited in rear yards or side yards
B. should be of wood construction in designs appropriate for pre-1945 dwellings. Yard features
constructed of materials such as glass, metal or brick can be placed in yards if situated near the rear of
the lot and effectively screened by fencing or landscaping.
C. should not be located in street yards.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The contractor for the project, Mr. Ron Dahl was present to represent the property owner.
There was discussion on the structural construction of the gazebo. It was suggested that
reducing the gazebo by two sides could possibly reduce the cost of construction of the
structure.The contractor indicated that he would run this idea by the property owner.
Additionally, it was also required that the entire structure be painted rather than be left
natural.
There was also discussion on the portion of the request that pertained to the fence. Staff
indicated that the fence met the requirements of the guidelines and could be administratively
approved.
A motion was made by Commissioner Briska to approve the gazebo as submitted, or as
modified to reduce the number of sides,with the additional condition that it be painted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. Passed unanimously.
Additional Staff Comments:
1. City Gazebo at Observatory Park—Mr.Saher stated that the Parks Department had
submitted a request to the Community Development Department to construct a new metal
gazebo in Observatory Park. He provided the members with drawings, maps and views of
the structure. If agreeable to the Subcommittee, he requested to be provided with
authority to approve the design of the structure and issue a permit.
There was brief discussion on the materials proposed to be used for the gazebo,the roof
and cupola design.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to provide staff with the authority to
review and approve the design of the gazebo in lieu of the fact that the structure met the
requirements of the design guidelines.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson. Passed unanimously.
CORRESPONDENCE:
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None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Briska.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
s/Sarosh Saher Approved: June 25, 2013
Senior Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. March 26, 2013
2. April 23, 2013
3. May 14, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 159 S. Channing Street— Demolish Garage
2. 730 Douglas Avenue—Reconstruct side porch
3. 418 Lowrie Ct—Repair/replace front stairs
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St— Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
May 28,2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Briska, Pat Segel, and Bill Ristow
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Sarosh Saher, Senior Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
New Business
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage
2. 730 Douglas Avenue—Reconstruct side porch
3. 418 Lowrie Ct—Repair/replace front stairs
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the minutes from the Design Review
Subcommittee meeting held on March 26, April 23 and May 14, 2013.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
The following items were tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage—the applicant approached staff just prior to
the meeting to inform them that they were not the property owner and therefore could not
request action to demolish the garage on the property. They indicated that the property
owner was the bank that had acquired the property on the demise of the owner and had
requested the applicant not to take any action on their behalf. Staff therefore requested
that the Subcommittee table this application until a determination on the property owner
could be made.
2. 730 Douglas Avenue—Reconstruct side porch—the property owner or a representative
was not present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
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A.motion was made by Commissioner Roberson to table the two items until further
information could be obtained, and until the property owner or a representative was present
to discuss the application.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel and passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
418 Lowrie Ct—Repair/replace front stairs
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to install a new
guardrail and handrail on the front and rear porch of the house, and to repair the roof
overhanging the front porch of the house.
On visiting the property, only the front porch could be inspected since the property is not
occupied at this time, and the rear porch is contained within a locked fenced-in area. In
inspecting the front porch, it appears that the level of deterioration extends beyond the just the
hand and guard rails. It appears that the stair treads and risers, decking and skirting on the porch
have suffered significant damage due to exposure to weather and staff would recommend their
replacement. Staff would also recommend that the footings and framing of the porch be
examined for structural integrity.
The roof over the front porch is flat with its soffit and fascia missing.
Additionally, staff noted two satellite dishes installed on the front elevation of the building
without a COA. Staff has provided the applicant with notice to remove the dishes and relocate
them, if required to the rear of the building.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and placement.
C. should be screened only if the structural framework for the screen panels is minimal and the
open appearance of the porch is maintained. Screen panels should be placed behind the original
features such as columns or railings and should not hide decorative details or result in the
removal of original porch materials.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
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E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of concrete (see
section on Porch Steps).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade, if the
porch floor is made of wood.
G. should have trellises made of wood, if trellises are appropriate.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative wood
framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the porch's open
appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match the
original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been removed or
replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called spindles)
should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the railing should be in
line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made of
wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the treads
should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch construction
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of a COA to replace the handrails, guardrails, stair treads and risers,
decking and skirting be replaced to meet the requirements of the guidelines, and with the
following conditions:
1. Use the details provided to the applicant in the attached drawing to complete the repairs
to the front porch.
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2. Provide access to staff to inspect the rear porch in order to document the condition of the
porch, determine the level of deterioration, and propose the scope of work necessary to
meet the requirements of city codes and the guidelines.
3. The roof over the porch should be repaired structurally where necessary and the soffit
should be reinstalled using bead board painted or stained, and a fascia board should be
reinstalled to the width of the joists.
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The property owner, Mr. Juan Estrada was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Staff indicated that since the gate was locked, an inspection to assess the conditions and take
photographs could not be carried out. However, staff indicated that if the porch was designed in a
simple style, that the standard details could be used in its reconstruction.
Discussion also took place on the need for the overhanging roof above the front steps. There was
discussion on whether it should be there or not. It appears to have been installed later than the
date of construction of the house. However, to provide for the needed shelter from the elements,
it was decided to allow it to remain, but repair it in accordance with the conditions in the packet.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request for a COA as
submitted, with the conditions provided by staff. Additionally, staff was granted the authority to
approve the rear porch based on an inspection and the details suggested by staff.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson. Passed unanimously.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
s/Sarosh Saher
Sarosh Saher Approved: June 25, 2013
Senior Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 159 S. Channing Street— Demolish Garage
2. 730 Douglas Avenue— Reconstruct side porch
F. New Business
1. 890 Douglas Ave. —Construct one-story rear addition
2. 150 N. Gifford — Repair/Reconstruct Windows
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
I. Staff Comments
1. COA Neighbor Notification Process
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 (TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
•
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
June 11, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:03 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, William Briska,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Save►
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
John Anderson (Representing 150 N. Gifford St.)
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
1. 159 S. Channing St—Demolish Garage
2. 730 Douglas Ave—Reconstruct side porch
New Business
1. 890 Douglas Ave—Construct one-story rear addition
2. 150 N. Gifford St — Repair/Reconstruct Windows
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes were not submitted for approval
ITEMS TABLED:
The following items were tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage—the property ownership is still under
consideration.
2. 730 Douglas Avenue—Reconstruct side porch—the property owner or a representative
was not present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel and passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
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Agenda Item El (159 S. Channing St.) was not heard tonight due to lack of owner
representation.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roberson to table Item 1E until further information
could be obtained.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to un-table item E2 for discussion (A
representative for the property was in attendance for tonight's meeting).
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
730 Douglas Ave—Reconstruct side porch
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application to reconstruct the side
porch on the house that faces south.The reconstructed porch will restore the porch to an open porch.
The proposed work involves the following:
• Demolish the existing porch decking,wall across the front of the porch that encloses the porch,
all trim stairs and skirting.
• Rebuild the structure of the porch including new footings, and framing. The area of the porch
will not change; neither will it extend beyond the elevation of the house.
• Support the new header with new 9' high decorative tapered porch posts supported on 3' high
square bases.The cross-section dimension of the posts is not provided.Additionally, it appears
that the posts on the front porch are turned, and those on the southeast corner of the front
elevation are square, but not tapered.
• Install new porch railing 36 inches high, with a diagonal lattice-like design (derived from the
front porch, but not matching) consisting of two panels separated by an intermediate vertical
support post.
• No skirting is proposed at this time.
• Construct new stairs to the porch with hand rails designed in a manner similar to the porch
railing.The stairs to the porch will be wider than existing and be complementary to the
character of the porch.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches(pertinent guidelines)
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and placement.
D.should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors should also
have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative wood framed
skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
Porch Columns and Railing(pertinent guidelines)
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B.should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been removed or
replaced.
C.should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called spindles) should be
appropriate for the building's style and period.The height of the railing should be in line with the
window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps(pertinent guidelines)
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber.The ends of the treads should be
bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D.should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch construction
Staff Recommendation:
The reconstruction of the porch will return its character to more closely resemble what was originally
constructed on the house.Therefore, staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness
with the following recommendations and conditions:
Recommendations:
1. Staff was unable to determine the sill height of windows on the exterior wall opening into the
porch (the porch is currently enclosed). However, staff recommends that if there are windows
opening onto the porch that the applicant considers matching the railing height to the height of
the window sills. However,the height of the railings as proposed does not significantly detract
from the character of the house.
2. The columns currently proposed are tapered square columns on square bases 36 inches high.
The design of these columns is more reminiscent of a craftsman style as opposed to the Queen
Anne style of the house. Staff recommends that the design of the columns be derived from the
style and design of columns that exist on the house, but with a simpler amount of detail, since
this is a side porch.
Conditions:
1. The porch is constructed with skirting whose design is derived from that of the existing porches
but with a simpler amount of detail,since this is a side porch.
2. The design of the treads and risers of the porch stairs match the design of those on the front
porches to the house.
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The property owner, Ms. Nicole Brahms-Tuhy was present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. She also distributed updated drawings to the Subcommittee. Discussion took
place regarding the railing height, skirting, and post details. Ms.Tuhy confirmed that the posts
will be similar to the front porch post details. She also confirmed that the columns as well as
the railing height will match the front porch details.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request for a COA as
submitted, with the condition that the railing height be approved by staff prior to installation.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson. Passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
890 Douglas Ave.—Construct one-story rear addition
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
construct a one-story addition to the property's rear (west) elevation. The submitted
architectural drawings reflect the applicant's effort to construct an addition that will contribute
to the building's historic character in material and architectural detail. To accommodate the
new addition, the applicant intends to demolish the sun room and wood deck located on the
building's rear elevation.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Residential Additions
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary (smaller and simpler) than the original dwelling in scale, design,
and placement.
C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials, color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights, etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
F. should not imitate an earlier historic style or architectural period. For example, a ca.
1880 Queen Anne style rear porch addition would not be appropriate for a 1920s
Craftsman/Bungalow house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the COA as submitted and with the following condition:
1. That the casement windows proposed for the addition's west elevation be of a
simulated double-hung 4/4 light pattern to match the house's existing historic window
details rather than the proposed 6/6 pattern. (Similar style to the applicant's proposed
east elevation window detail.)
The property owner's representative, Mr. Amias Turman, was present to answer questions of
the Subcommittee. Mr. Turman distributed revised drawings to reflect a reduction of one
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elevation of the addition by 3 feet and its adjacent side extension of approximately 18 inches.
Mr.Turman also highlighted that the drawings had been corrected to reflect a change to the
window light pattern on the addition's west elevation from 6/6 to 4/4 lights. Upon review of
the drawings, Commissioners complimented the applicant's submitted drawings and their level
of detail.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request for a COA as
submitted, with the updated revisions.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson. Passed unanimously.
150 N. Gifford St
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for
several projects. Several have been approved administratively; however, Staff is seeing the
review of the Design Review Subcommittee for the property owner's window rehabilitation
request. The property owner has requested approval to repair and as necessary, replace
windows in disrepair. The property owner has indicated that the following windows may
require replacement: 5 basement windows, two dormer windows. On May 31, 2013, Senior
Planner, Sarosh Saher conducted a site visit and assessed the windows and confirmed that the
sash of several windows is deteriorated. At that time, the applicant was advised that every
effort should be made to repair the windows and in the event that windows are beyond repair,
that windows to match the existing historic windows should be installed. Of particular note, Mr.
Saher advised the property owner that the muntin details should be preserved. The property
owner has indicated that he is willing and able to replicate the existing historic windows in
material and design (including the muntins). The property owner will provide an example
replacement window at the June 11, 2013 meeting.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
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D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness for the window rehabilitation
as submitted.
The property owner, Mr. Oscar Jimenez was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Mr.Jimenez provided the Subcommittee with an example of his proposed reconstructed
window for the windows that are beyond repair. His reconstructed window showed the
replication of the muntin detail that is found on the house's existing windows.
Discussion took place regarding the windows that will be repaired versus replaced. Mr. Jimenez
intends to replace the basement windows and dormer windows. The remaining windows will
be repaired.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request for a COA as submitted,
with the condition that new windows be installed with replacements-in-kind only.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
Ms. Munro approached the Subcommittee to request administrative approval for an update to
a COA that was approved by the Subcommittee on November 13, 2012 for garage repairs at
150 N. Gifford St. on November 13, 2012. The applicant,John Anderson, requested a revision
to the COA to accommodate frame and siding issues. Mr. Anderson requested approval to
install fiber cement board to match the house and to modify the garage door opening.
Discussion took place regarding the request and the Subcommittee granted informal approval
for the proposed revision, with formal approval to be provided a future meeting.
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Briska.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved:July 23, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,June 25, 2013-6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. May 28, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 159 S. Channing Street— Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
F. New Business
1. 543 E. Chicago St— Repair rear porch
2. 555 Douglas Ave—Install windows
3. 426 Prairie—Install windows; Replace front sidewalk and stairs
4. 359 Park St— Restore parade, front and side porch details
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 567 Park St—Reconstruct rear porch (7.10.12)
I. Staff Comments
1. COA Neighbor Notification Process
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-56161
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
June 25, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:03 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel,John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Ristow, Pat Segel, and William Briska
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Bob Anderson
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
1. 159 S. Channing St—Demolish Garage
New Business
1. 359 Park St— Restore parade porch, front and side porch details
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the minutes from the Design
Review Subcommittee meeting held on May 28, 2013.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
The following item was tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 159 S. Channing Street— Demolish Garage—Staff contacted the applicant for an update
and was advised that property ownership is still being determined. The applicant will
contact staff upon property ownership confirmation.
2. 543 E. Chicago St— Repair rear porch -the property owner or a representative was not
present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
3. 555 Douglas Ave—Install windows-the property owner or a representative was not
present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
4. 426 Prairie— Install windows; Replace front sidewalk and stair-the property owner or a
representative was not present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to table the four items until further
information could be obtained, and until the respective property owner or a representative
was present to discuss the application.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Save!and passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS:
359 Park St. — Restore parade porch, front and side porch details
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to reconstruct the
property's parade porch.The porch will be reconstructed as per its historic photograph. The
applicant has also proposed to match applique details located on the building's existing front
and side (west) porches which are similar to details located on its "sister" house in Wheaton,
Illinois.The property owners have proposed the use of Cyprus wood for the porch's
reconstruction.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and
detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale,
and placement.
C. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with
wood floors should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
D. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the
façade, if the porch floor is made of wood.
E. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with
decorative wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in
the foundation exist.
F. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
Porch Columns and Railings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to
match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of
the railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater
than 30 inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
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Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
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The property owners, Maureen and Tom Lee were present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. and Mrs. Lee confirmed that the restoration would be conducted in a
manner to replicate an historic photograph of the house. The property owners clarified that the
gingerbread trim details on the front and side porches would also be restored. Discussion also
took place regarding the property owners' intent to paint the house with historically
appropriate colors.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request for a COA as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
Ms. Munro requested direction from the Subcommittee regarding the Certificate of
Appropriateness (COA) adjoining neighbor notification process. Typically, COA neighbor
notification notices for all properties identified on the Subcommittee's agenda. It was noted by
Ms. Munro and Subcommittee members that only in rare instances, have neighbors addressed
the COA projects relative to the actual project details. City staff receives very few phone calls,
and the majority of them are inquiries related to incorrect addresses or incorrect assumptions
about the COA project applicability to their property rather than the one identified in then
notice. Subcommittee members discussed the neighbor notification and recommended that
notices be mailed for COAs that are contentious, will change the overall context of the
neighborhood such as demolitions and new house construction, or other projects as staff
deems appropriate.
Discussion also took place regarding exhibits that are included with the DRSC agenda packets.
Subcommittee members agreed that maps are not necessary, with the exception of Sanborn
maps when changes to a house's footprint are proposed.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to revise the COA neighbor notification
process and direct staff to mail notices only when COA applications are contentious, will
potentially change the neighborhood context such as demolition or reconstruction, or as staff
deems appropriate.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. Passed unanimously.
Discussion took place regarding COAs for projects that will replicate historic photographs which
reflect the original building.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to direct staff to administratively approve COAs for
projects that utilize historic photographic evidence to rehabilitate a house.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. Passed unanimously.
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CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved:July 23, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,July 9, 2013- 6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 16 N. Gifford— Reconstruct Garage (Update approved COA from 11-13-12; 6-11-13)
2. 815 Grove (empty lot)—Construct House
3. 543 E. Chicago St—Repair Rear Porch
4. 555 Douglas Ave—Install Windows
5. 426 Prairie—Install Windows; Replace Front Sidewalk and Stairs
F. New Business
1. 525 E. Chicago St— Install Fence
2. 818 Brook St.—Install Garage Door
3. 1006 N. Spring St—Install Garage Door
4. 521 Villa St.— Install Windows
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
July 9, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, William Briska, Bill Ristow, John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat
Segel, John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Kyle Tomsha,
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
1. 16 N. Gifford— Reconstruct Garage (Update approved COA from 11-13-12; 6-11-13)
2. 815 Grove (empty lot)—Construct House
3. 543 E. Chicago St—Repair Rear Porch
4. 426 Prairie— Install Windows; Replace Front Sidewalk and Stairs
New Business
1. 525 E. Chicago St—Install Fence
2. 1006 N. Spring St—Install Garage Door
3. 521 Villa St. — Install Windows
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes were not provided for approval.
ITEMS TABLED:
The following item was tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 818 Brook St. —Install Garage Door-the property owner or a representative was not
present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
2. 555 Douglas Ave. - the property owner or a representative was not present to discuss or
answer questions of the Subcommittee.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to table the two items until the respective
property owners or representatives were present to discuss the applications.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel and passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
16 N. Gifford—Reconstruct Garage (Update approved COA from 11-13-12; 6-11-13)
The applicant,John Anderson, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Anderson explained project details and the need to revise the original COA garage door opening
request.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request for a COA as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson. The motion passed 7-0, with one
abstention (Commissioner Save!).
815 Grove (empty lot)—Construct House
The property owner, Douglas Tomsha and his contractor, David Jurina, were present to update
the Subcommittee on the project. On March 26, 2013, the project received concept approval
from the Subcommittee with the following conditions:
1. The final house design elements should incorporate details from other Prairie Style
homes on Douglas Ave.
2. Final drawings showing all dimensions and specifications must be submitted for the
Design Review Subcommittee's review and approval.
Since that time, Mr. Jurina has been working with Mr. Tomsha to incorporate elements from
neighboring Prairie Style homes and to modify the home per Mr. Tomsha's requested size
reduction.The materials are still being determined. Potentially, the brick may not match the
David C. Cook Building's brick, the siding will be reverse board and batten, and the house will
not have gutters.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and expressed concerns with several details, including
the proposed loft design and chimney location. Additional details pertaining to its proportion
as well as the potential need to lower the chimney were also discussed. The Subcommittee
also requested additional detail work pertaining to the doors, windows and garage. In
particular, the soffits should not be wrapped with aluminum.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to table further review of the item until
additional project details are provided by the applicant.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel and passed unanimously.
543 E. Chicago St—Repair Rear Porch
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THIS ITEM WAS TABLED ON JUNE 25, 2013 DUE TO LACK OF PROPERTY OWNER
REPRESENTATION.
The property owners have submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate the rear
porch located on the southwest corner of their house. The property owners have proposed the
installation of new wood flooring and replacements-in-kind of the columns (as needed). The
applicants would also like to install tongue and groove Douglas Fir. At the time of their
application submittal, the applicants indicated that the deteriorated condition of the columns
would not be known until the flooring was removed. If the columns are salvageable, the
property owners intend to repair the columns. If the columns require replacement, the
property owners intend to replace the columns with replacements-in-kind.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches (pertinent guidelines)
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
D. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
Porch Column and Railings
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
Staff Recommendation
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following condition:
1. Should the columns' condition require replacement, that the new columns be
replacements-in-kind to match the existing columns.
The property owner, Anna Janus, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Ms.
Janus has proposed the replacement of the rear porch flooring with 1" x 4" tongue and groove,
Douglas floor flooring and also requested approval to repair and restore the columns as per
details in an historic drawing that she presented to the Subcommittee. The drawing was made
by a previous property owner and shows details once found on the columns. At this time, Ms.
Janus expressed that until the flooring is removed, it is unclear as to whether the columns will
need full replacement.
A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to approve the request for a COA as submitted and
with the condition that all details match the historic drawing provided Ms. Janus.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
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426 Prairie—Install Windows; Replace Front Sidewalk and Stairs
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED ON JUNE 25, 2013 DUE TO LACK OF PROPERTY OWNER
REPRESENTATION.
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
two windows located on the 1st floor of the building's west elevation. The property owner has
proposed the installation of double-hung wood windows (Pella, Architect Series) to match the
house's existing windows. The proposed replacements are due to the windows' interior
deterioration and inoperability.
The property owner has also proposed replacing the concrete front sidewalk and stairs with
brick pavers (Unilock, Hollandstone, Heritage Brown).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
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Sidewalks and Walkways
A. should be preserved, if original to a dwelling or block
B. should be constructed of smooth concrete poured in detail,
dimension, and placement as that of original or early sidewalks.
C. should not be of aggregate or pebble-surfaced concrete. Smooth
poured concrete, flagstone pavers, brick pavers, or pavers that
replicate brick such as stamped concrete can be used.
D. should not be constructed of asphalt, if situated in the front yard, but
may be permitted in less visible areas of the property.
E. should not abut existing driveways and should be located a
minimum distance of three feet from any existing driveway.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
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The property owner, Craig Dresang, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Mr. Dresang clarified his request for installing a brick veneer over the existing front concrete
sidewalk stairs and sidewalk. Due to maintenance and economics, Mr. Dresang also proposed
the installation of two fixed, single pane windows with snap-on muntins to mimic a double-
hung window which would replace the existing double-hung windows which flank the bay
window.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and advised Mr. Dresang that either window repair or
aluminum clad wood, double-hung windows are the accepted replacement and that the
window project, as proposed does not meet the Guidelines. The Subcommittee clarified the
sidewalk and staircase project as being brick veneer over the stairs to match the brick pavers
proposed for the sidewalk. The Subcommittee suggested that a stair handrailing may be
required for Code compliance. Staff was directed to confirm Code compliance.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roberson to approve the request for a COA as submitted
and with the conditions as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. Passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
525 E. Chicago St—Install Fence
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
replace the property's rear yard chain link fence located on the west lot line. The applicant's
fence request includes placement in the existing fence's location. The proposed replacement is
a 6' cedar privacy fence (solid board, privacy louvered). Adjacent to the chain link fence is a 28'
picket fence.
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The property owner has also requested approval to replace the damaged picket fence located
at the edge of the house and extending to the west lot line with a 4' ornamental metal fence.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Fences (applicable guidelines)
A. Should be proportionate to the house and the design should be
compatible with the character of the building and district.
B. Should be painted white or a trim color related to the house, never
left to weather or given a stain finish.
E. If placed along common property lines should not be placed against
another fence -double line fencing is not permitted.
F. Should have posts that are set a minimum of 30 inches below grade
and no more than eight feet apart.
G. If wood, be of cedar, redwood or pressure treated pine, cypress or
other rot resistant wood.
Fences in Rear Yard
L. Built for privacy should not extend beyond the rear yard beginning
at the back corner of the house.
M. Built for privacy should have a minimum of gate post, corner post,
and end posts which are five to ten inches wide and taller than the
pickets.
N. Can be constructed in the same low fence design found in the front
yard.
0. Of wood boards or planks for privacy should be located in rear yards
and be no taller than six feet. Boards should be no more than six
inches wide.
P. Privacy fences of flat boards with flat tops in a single row are most
appropriate for the historic districts. Vertical boards topped with
lattice or picket are also appropriate as privacy fences.
Staff Recommendation:
Although the Design Guidelines do not permit the proposed fence location, the proposed
location is a pre-existing condition that the property owners have requested to maintain. Staff
does not believe that the proposed location detracts from the overall historic character of the
house and neighborhood.
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the fence corner, gate and end posts are five to ten inches wide and taller than the
pickets.
2. That the privacy fence is painted white or in a trim color that matches the house.
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3. That the privacy fence boards/planks are no more than six inches wide.
The property owner, Dan Coolidge was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Coolidge clarified that he intends to replace the existing chain link fence along the property's
west line with a wood privacy fence and the he intends to replace the existing wood picket
fence extending from the edge of the house to the west lot line with a 4' ornamental fence.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and concurred with the applicant's request to stain,
rather than to paint the privacy fence.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request for a COA as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
1006 N. Spring St—Install Garage Door
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
the property's garage door due to its inoperability. The property owner has proposed the
installation of an overhead white, steel raised panel door, without windows (specifications
attached, C. H. I., Model 2250, Short Panel). The existing garage door has recessed panels;
however, the property owner is unable to confirm if it is original to the building. Staff has
discussed the garage door specifications with the property owner and advised the property
owner that a recessed panel garage door may be more appropriate.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garage Doors
A. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair, they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design and period of construction of the garage.
B. Should be raised panel designs, with a solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs.
Flush design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional
doors and hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
C. Should have windows simple in design with clear glass, if windows are necessary.
Muntins in a simple design may also be used. The use of ornamental stained glass and
openings in decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
D. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in a color appropriate to the
period of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following condition:
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1. If the garage door is original to the building, that the replacement garage door be a
recessed panel door to match the existing door (example specifications attached).
The property owner, Radwan Abordan was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee inquired about his willingness to follow the Staff recommendation for
installing a garage door with recessed panels to match the existing garage door. Mr. Abordan
confirmed his agreement.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request for a COA per Staff's
recommendation.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
521 Villa St.—Install Windows
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
two windows. The windows are located on the first level of the property's east and west
elevations. Upon Staff's site inspection of the building's front and side elevations, only three of
the building's windows appeared to be historic (2/2, double-hung wood windows). The
windows that are proposed for replacement do not appear to be original to the building. The
applicant has proposed aluminum clad wood, double-hung replacement windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
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historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Given the building's alterations together with the fact that the majority of its windows have
been replaced, including the subject two windows, and to maintain the overall cohesiveness of
the building, Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as
submitted.
The property owner, Scott Chiang, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and inquired about original windows on the building.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request for a COA as
submitted and with the condition that the replacement windows fit the existing window
openings.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
Staff updated the Committee on the DRSC appointments. The historic district representatives,
Steve Stroud, Pat Segel,John Roberson, and Dennis Roxworthy have agreed to serve another
term. The Elgin Heritage Commission member representation is William Briska, Scott Savel, and
John Wiedmeyer. Bill Ristow will serve as an EHC representative until his vacancy is filled.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Savel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved: August 27, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,July 23, 2013 - 6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. June 11, 2013
2. June 25, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 818 Brook St.—Install Garage Door
2. New Business
1. 150 N. Gifford St. —Rear Staircase and Porch
2. 376 S. Liberty—Replace Garage Door
3. 458 Arlington Ave.—Replace Concrete Sidewalls
3. Other
4. Tabled Items
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
5. Staff Comments
6. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
July 23, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, Bill Ristow,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and Pat Segel
MEMBERS ABSENT:
William Briska and John Wiedmeyer
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
New Business
1. 150 N. Gifford St. —Rear Staircase and Porch
2. 458 Arlington Ave.— Replace Concrete Sidewalls
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Commissioner Roberson to approve the minutes from the Design Review
Subcommittee meetings held on June 11, 2013 and June 25, 2013.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy and passed 4-0 with one abstention
(Commissioner Ristow).
ITEMS TABLED:
The following items were tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 818 Brook St.—Install Garage Door-the property owner or a representative was not
present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
2. 376 S. Liberty St.—Replace Garage Door.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to table the two items until the respective
property owner or a representative was present to discuss the application.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson and passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
150 N. Gifford St.—Rear Staircase and Porch
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
reconstruct the building's rear deck and staircase. The property owner has submitted an
application to address safety concerns.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Decks
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings only, where they are not readily visible from
the street.
B. should be stained with an opaque stain or painted to blend with the colors of the
dwelling.
C. should be kept simple in design. Wood decks are recommended to have traditional
style wood balusters complementary to the design of the building.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness if the following
conditions are met:
1. That the decking shall be 1x4 wood, tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular
to the house. (Wood composite is also acceptable.)
2. The handrails shall have a 2x4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, 2" AFF.
3. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, 3/" cove, 2x2 square
balusters, with a maximum of 3" on center, square corners, SFS. To ensure that the
balusters have straight corners rather than round corners, it is recommended that the
balusters be cut from 4x4s.
4. The newel posts shall be either a top and bottom 4x4 wrapped square design or a 6 x 6
(preferred as wrapping would only be necessary at the top and bottom) with cove
molding and square post cap.
5. The stair tread shall be two (2) 2 x 6 decking boards with no more than a pencil width in
between and the treads shall be bull-nosed with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10"
wide.
6. Risers, max. 7 3/4", flush with stringer.
7. All skirt boards (rim joist) shall be 1 x 8.
8. The skirting board shall be 1 x 4 vertical boards and installed behind the 1x6 frame, 1"
spacing with 8" header.
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9. All deck and stair elements to be wood and stained or primed and painted (opaque stain
is acceptable).
10. All remaining details shall match the submitted drawing.
The property owner, Oscar Jimenez was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. He
clarified that the project is for a rear stoop on the house rather than the existing rear staircase.
The Subcommittee reviewed the submitted drawing and discussed the project. They suggested
that the applicant consider a wood composite for the porch decking and stairs and agreed that
stair decking is appropriate given the location of the porch.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request for a COA per staff
recommendations and with the condition that railing height be staff approved, minimum 30"
but not to exceed 36"and that the flooring be installed perpendicular to the longest wall of the
house.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
458 Arlington Ave.—Replace Concrete Sidewalls
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace
the front stair knee walls. The property owner was cited for a paint code violation. Upon taking
corrective actions to the violation, the property owner has proposed the replacement of the
knee walls with poured concrete. The existing concrete stairs and knee walls are covered with
a layer of plaster and exhibit signs of deterioration. The property owner has cited deterioration
as the reason for the proposed COA request.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches (relevant guidelines only)
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
E. should have poured concrete steps if the porch, patio or terrace floor is made of
concrete (see section on Porch Steps).
Porch Staircase and Steps
A. Should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the
property. Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the
original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions
and recommendation:
Conditions:
1. That repair of the concrete be explored and take place if possible.
2. In the event that repair is not possible, that the replacement knee walls be installed
according to the footprint, design and material of the existing walls.
Recommendation:
1. That the concrete and stairs are painted in a color that complements the house.
The applicant, Rosa Flores and property owner, Raymond Flores, were present to answer
questions of the Subcommittee. Ms. Flores inquired about the possibility for installing a brick
veneer over the concrete walls. She also indicated that at this time, it is unknown as to whether
the stairs will be replaced.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and stated that brick would not be an appropriate
veneer, however, stucco would be an acceptable covering. The Subcommittee also
recommended that the exposed concrete staircase remain unpainted.
A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to approve the request for a COA to replace the
knee walls stairs with replacements in kind in the existing configuration and granted approval
for the application of stucco to the concrete.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
None.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:36 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved: August 27, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, August 13, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 818 Brook St.—Install Garage Door (7-2-13)
2. 376 S. Liberty St.—Install Garage Door(7-23-13)
F. New Business
1. 158 N. Liberty St.— Install front stair handrail
2. 162 College St. —Rehabilitate front, south, and west porches
3. 435 Raymond St.— Install windows and front and rear doors
4. 145 Hill Ave.—Install front porch hand railings
5. 473 S. Liberty St.—Install retaining wall
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 159 S. Channing Street— Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
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CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
POSTED:AUGUST 9, 2013
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
August 13, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:05 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, William Briska, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
New Business
1. 158 N. Liberty St.— Install front stair handrail
2. 162 College St. —Rehabilitate front, south, and west porches
3. 435 Raymond St. —Install windows and front and rear doors
4. 145 Hill Ave. —Install front porch hand railings
5. 473 S. Liberty St.— Install retaining wall
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
None.
ITEMS TABLED:
The following items were tabled due to the reasons contained therein:
1. 818 Brook St. —Install Garage Door-the property owner or a representative was not
present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
2. 376 S. Liberty St.—Replace Garage Door.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to table the two items until the respective
property owner or a representative was present to discuss the application.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson and passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
158 N. Liberty St.—Install One Front Handrail
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to install
a handrail on the front porch. Due to the location of the door opening, the applicant has
requested permission to install only one handrail to the left of the door opening (porch faces
east).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and railings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use
materials to match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and
railings have been removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters
(also called spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style
and period. The height of the railing should be in line with the
window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges, %" cove, 2x2 square
balusters, with a maximum of 3" on center, square corners. That the bottom rail is a 2x4
with chamfered edges, 2" AFF. To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather
than round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
2. That a newel post is added to the bottom of the stairs.
3. That the newel post shall be 4 x 4 and have a post ball cap.
4. That all other details match the attached drawing.
5. That the handrail shall be primed and painted.
The property owner, Kathleen Reichert, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
She has agreed to install a handrail similar to the handrail recommended by Staff as per the
Design Guidelines.
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The Subcommittee reviewed the project and recommended that the handrail be mounted at
the edge,just slightly to the side rather than mounted at the side. The Subcommittee
confirmed that the newel post will be either a 4x4, wrapped lx or a 6x6.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request for a COA per staff
recommendation.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. Passed unanimously.
162 College St.—Rehabilitate front, south, and west porches
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application for the
following projects:
1. Front Porch Handrail Reconstruction (Faces East):The property owner has proposed a
rehabilitation of the porch balustrade. The repair involves the reconstruction of the
balustrade to match the south porch balustrade.
2. South Porch Reconstruction:The property owner has proposed the reconstruction of the
stairs to replace the temporary stairs.
3. West Porch Reconstruction: The proposed rehabilitation will be conducted in a manner
sympathetic to the south porch architectural details. The porch will be reconstructed.
The applicant has also proposed the removal of the existing awning and the installation
of a roof to match the south elevation porch.
4. Scrape and Paint Exterior.
5. Gutters:The owner has proposed half-round aluminum gutters.
6. Shutters:The property owner has proposed removal.
7. Scrape and Paint:The color scheme will match the existing house colors.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Architectural Details and Features
A. should not be added unless there is physical, pictorial, or historical evidence that such
features were original to the house or consistent with the style which would allow them
to be added to the house. These features should match the original in materials, scale,
location, proportions, form, and detailing.
Porches
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A. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
B. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
C. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
D. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
Porch Columns and Railings
A. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
B. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Gutters
(Relevant Guidelines)
B. should be located away from significant architectural features on the front of the
building.
C. should provide proper drainage through use of downspouts and splash blocks to avoid
water damage to the building. Round downspouts are more appropriate than
rectangular forms; however, rectangular forms are also acceptable.
D. should be designed to channel the water as far away from the
dwelling as possible. Downspouts should extend at least 4 to 6 feet,
or utilize a splash block.
E. should be half-round rather than "K" or ogee, is of hang-on type. Ogee is permissible if
fascia is vertical
F. should have straps nailed under, not on top, of roofing material. Metal flashing should
also be properly installed so as not to conceal any crown molding in the roof eaves.
G. should not result in the removal of existing eave features.
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H. should be sized proportionate to the building. Gutters and downspouts should not
exceed 6".
Shutters
C. should not be added unless there is physical or photographic evidence that the dwelling
originally had them.
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers. A
paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding
B. should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat guns
to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire.
C. should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water
blasting since this can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted for the following
projects:
1. Gutters.
2. Shutter Removal.
3. Scrape and Paint.
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with
conditions for the following projects:
4. Front Porch Balustrade
• The balustrade should match the attached City file photos.
• The balusters should be installed no more than 3" on center. The bottom handrail
must be 2" above finished floor.
5. South Porch
• Although a photograph was provided, Staff was unable to access the rear of the
property to inspect the porch. In order to document the condition of the porch
stairs, and propose the scope of work necessary to meet the requirements of city
codes and the guidelines.
6. West Porch
• The wood decking (composite is acceptable) shall be 1 x 4 tongue and groove and be
installed perpendicular to the house.
• The handrail shall be at a minimum 30" but no more than 36" in height above
finished floor.
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• The handrail shall have a 2 x 4 top rail with chamfered edges, %" cove, the spindles
shall match the spindles on the front and south porches no more than 3" on center.
• The handrails shall have a 2 x 4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, 2" above
finished floor.
• The newel posts shall have a top and bottom 4 x 4 wrapped square design with cove
molding and cap.
• The skirt frame shall be 1 x 6 with a 1 x 4 lower board.
• The skirting board shall be 1 x 4 and installed behind the frame, 1" spacing with 8"
header.
• The stair tread shall be constructed in 2 x 12 lumber and the treads shall be bull-
nosed with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10" wide, and overhang the risers by 1".
• That the new roof match the existing south porch roof material and design details.
The applicant,John Boline, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr. Boline
confirmed that he intends to install the front and west porch balusters as exact replicas to the
existing south porch balusters. He also confirmed that his proposed flat roof for the west porch
will have a flat roof with dentil molding to match the south porch details. Mr. Boline further
confirmed that the west porch columns will match the front and south porch columns exactly.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and asked questions confirming the fabrication of the
architectural details. Mr. Boline confirmed that the all architectural details will be custom
fabricated.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request for the COA as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. Passed unanimously.
435 Raymond St. —Install windows,front and rear doors
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
replace the vinyl basement windows and to replace the front doors. The property owner
recently purchased the property and installed the basement vinyl windows without a COA. The
house also has existing vinyl windows on its upper levels, but at this time, Staff has been unable
to determine their installation date.
Staff has advised the applicant of the City's Design Guidelines expectations for historic district
residents. Staff has also advised the applicant that vinyl windows are not permitted. The
applicant has requested the installation of aluminum clad wood windows as a corrective action
to the vinyl window installation.
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The applicant has also requested approval to replace the front doors. Staff recommended the
installation of a 1/2 light, Queen Anne style front door. The applicant has agreed to this
recommendation.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Doors and Door Features
A. should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style, glazing (type of
glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is
acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
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B. should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or
Italianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style of the
house, if applicable.
D. should only involve artificial materials such as "lexan" or other acrylic based materials, if
applicable.
E. should not be removed or altered.The original size of the door opening should not be
enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
1. That the new windows are aluminum-clad or wood windows to fit the existing openings.
2. That the door shall have a half-light, and be constructed of solid wood or smooth, solid
core fiberglass.
3. That the specifications of the new door be provided to staff prior to obtaining the
permit for the door replacement.
The property owner, Ignacio Perez was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. A
new owner of the subject property, Mr. Perez expressed that he was unaware of the City's COA
process and due to the economics of replacing the windows, requested permission to retain the
existing vinyl basement windows which he installed without a COA. Additionally, Mr. Perez
requested permission to install Colonial style doors with decorative windows.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and advised Mr. Perez that vinyl windows are not
permitted in the historic district. Questions were raised pertaining to the existing upper level
vinyl windows. At this time, based upon the survey conducted in 1997 and the corresponding
photos of wood windows, it appears that the vinyl windows were installed without a COA. The
date is unknown, but pre-dates Mr. Perez's ownership.The Subcommittee discussed Mr.
Perez's options as per the Design Guidelines as to his right to appeal their decision. Mr. Perez
advised the Subcommittee that he would like to move forward with his application as
submitted. The Subcommittee also discussed Mr. Perez's request to install Colonial style doors
and advised Mr. Perez that his proposed door style is not appropriate for his house style. Mr.
Perez advised the committee that he would like to move forward with this request, but would
consider the door option recommended by staff.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request to retain the vinyl basement
windows.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. A roll call vote was taken and the
request failed unanimously.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request to install Colonial
style front and rear doors.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. A roll call vote was taken and the request
failed unanimously.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve a COA to install Queen Anne style,
1/2 light,two recessed panel door for the front and rear entrances.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. Passed unanimously.
145 Hill Ave.—Install front porch hand railings
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to replace
the front porch hand railings. In July 2013, the applicant submitted a COA to repair the porch
damage caused by an accident. At that time, the applicant provided photos of the damage and
it appeared that the repairs would not involve the full replacement of the porch handrailing.
Therefore, upon discussion with the contractor, Staff approved the repairs to the handrailings
(replacements-in-kind) as necessary, repairs to the column bases, front stair treads, and
southwest corner porch skirting. (Permit attached.) Staff's administrative approval specified
that any repairs that took place must match the existing porch details. On July 29, 2013, Staff
was contacted by the property owner who expressed concerns regarding the project. Staff
conducted a site visit on July 29, 2013 and noted issues with the COA approved project.
Approximately 75%of the balustrade had been replaced and did not match the existing
handrailing.There were also front stair replacement issues. A major portion of the skirting had
been replaced as well..
Staff has consulted with both the property owner and the contractor and advised each party of
the corrections that should take place. The contractor is correcting the stairs and column base
items. However, rather than re-building the handrail to match the existing balustrade, the
applicant has requested that the replacement handrailing be permitted for the entire porch.
The contractor has also requested approval to replace the skirting that was installed in error.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and railings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use
materials to match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and
railings have been removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters
(also called spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style
and period. The height of the railing should be in line with the
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window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following specifications:
Balustrade:
6. That the handrail height is parallel to the porch handrail.
7. That the handrail is 2x4 with chamfered top.
8. That the balusters are 2x2's with %" cove at top, and spaced no more than 3" on center.
To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than round corners, it is
recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
9. That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered edges, 2" AFF.
10. All other details to match existing porch rail in design and dimension.
Skirting:
1. That the existing skirting lattice is removed.
2. That the new skirting be 1 x 4 vertical boards with 1" spacing.
3. That the skirting boards are installed behind the frame.
4. That the skirt frame shall have 1 x 6 top and corner boards and a 1 x 4 lower board.
The applicant,James Carrigan, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Carrigan provided an overview of the project and clarified issues with installation of the hand
railings, skirting, and columns. He advised the Subcommittee that the column base will match
the porch's historic columns.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and inquired about details related to the hand railings
and column bases. Mr. Carrigan advised the Subcommittee that the property owner's concerns
are due to unfinished aspects of the project and that the identified issues expressed by the
applicant are related to finishing details which will be resolved upon project completion. Mr.
Carrigan is also correcting issues related to the stair treads and porch skirting.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. Passed unanimously.
473 S. Liberty St.—Install retaining wall
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to
maintain an existing retaining wall located in his rear yard. The concrete retaining wall was
installed without a COA in 2012. Since that time, the applicant has obtained zoning and building
approval for the wall. The existing wall height varies from 24" to 42".
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Retaining Walls
A. should be preserved and maintained, if original to the dwelling (or built before 1945).
B. should be of poured concrete (not concrete blocks) or in stone designs such as cut
stone, random rubble, coursed rubble, or cobblestones. Retaining walls of brick are less
appropriate but may be constructed. If constructed of artificial or cultured stone,
textures, colors and random designs should replicate natural stone. If located in front
yards, the walls should be constructed using up to two courses and an additional cap
course, not to exceed twenty inches in height.
C. should not be removed or replaced with new materials, if built before 1945.
D. should not be built on the fronts of dwellings, if constructed of timbers or railroad ties.
Staff Recommendation:
The Design Guidelines indicate that a front yard retaining wall should be constructed using up
to two courses with an additional cap course, not to exceed 20"; however, it does not specify a
height requirement for the rear yard. In some instances, the DRSC has approved retaining wall
heights of 24" in rear yards. Although portions of the retaining wall exceed 24", given the wall's
location and lack of visibility, Staff does not believe that the height variation significantly
compromises the historic integrity of the property.
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The property owner, Efrain Zepeda, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and discussed the height of the wall. The
Subcommittee also discussed the lack of visibility of the retaining wall and agreed that due to
this, the wall height does not negatively impact the property's historic character.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
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None.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Savel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:54 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Iirw-
Amy
Munro Approved: August 27, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday,August 27, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
`� Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. July 9, 2013
2. July 23, 2013
3. August 13, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 458 Arlington Ave. —Install Front Stair Handrail
r2. 416 Park St.—Reconstruct front porch
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
2. 818 Brook St.—Install Garage Door (7-2-13)
3. 376 S. Liberty St. —Install Garage Door (7-23-13)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
r
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
August 27, 2013
Minutes
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:05 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, William Briska, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
New Business
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the minutes from the Design
Review Subcommittee meetings held on July 9, 2013,July 23, 2013, and August 13, 2013, as
amended.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel and passed 6-0 for the July 9, 2013 and
August 13, 2013 minutes and 5-0 with one abstention for the July 23, 2013 minutes
(Commissioner Wiedmeyer).
ITEMS TABLED:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
458 Arlington Ave.—Install Front Stair Handrail
Project Background:
On July 23, 2013, the Design Review Subcommittee approved the property owner's request to
replace the front knee walls and stairs as necessary, with replacements-in-kind. The DRSC
recommended that the concrete remain exposed, but also approved the installation of stucco
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or plaster as a covering. Subsequent to the meeting and upon additional staff review, it was
determined that handrails are required and must be installed. Staff has discussed this Code
requirement with the property owner. The property owner has consented to the installation of
hand railings per the Design Guidelines and staff recommendation.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and Railings
A. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
B. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps (relevant Guidelines)
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
1. That the handrail shall match the attached Staff drawing.
2. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top and bottom rail with chamfered edges, 34" cove, 2x2
square balusters, with a maximum of 2.5" on center.To ensure that the balusters have
straight corners rather than round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut
from 4x4s.
3. The newel posts shall be 4 x 4 wrapped lx or 6 x 6 (preferred as wrapping would only be
necessary at the top and bottom).
4. The newel posts shall have a top and bottom 4x4 wrapped square design with cove
molding and cap.
5. That the newel posts are attached to the bottom riser.
6. That the handrails are primed and painted.
********
The applicant, Rosa Flores, and property owner, Raymondo Flores were present to answer
questions of the Subcommittee. The property owner has agreed to install a handrail similar to
the handrail recommended by Staff as per the Design Guidelines.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and inquired about the Code requirement for the
handrailing. Discussion regarding the negative visual impact of the handrailing took place. The
applicant would prefer not to install a handrailing. The Subcommittee directed staff to look
into whether a waiver may be possible for the handrailing. In the event that the handrailing is
required, then the Subcommittee recommends that a pipe handrail be installed.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to direct staff to inquire about a Code waiver
for the handrailing installation and if a waiver is not possible, to approve the installation of a
pipe handrail to be located on the interior sides of the knee walls.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Segel. Passed unanimously.
416 Park St. — Reconstruct Front Porch
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to rehabilitate the
front porch. Rehabilitation efforts include the following:
1. Demolish the existing porch, concrete foundation, and stairs.
2. Dig and pour 12" x 42" concrete pier
3. Frame new porch with 2x 6 treated wood.
4. Install 5/4" x 12" Douglas Fir Flooring.
5. Install skirting: vertical boards with diamond and circular cut outs.
6. Install hand railing to match existing railing in design, material and height of 28".
7. Replace existing porch column to match attached specifications (Urban 5 %" x 51/4").
8. Replace balusters with replacements-in-kind (to match existing balusters exactly).
9. Install new wood stairs.
10. Install new wood ceiling.
The property owner would like to install exact replicas or if not available, as close to possible
replacements of the existing porch architectural details. Upon Staff's site visit, the handrail is
currently 34" AFF. The balusters appeared to be in fair to good condition. The porch column is
deteriorating. Upon consultation with building staff, the proposed height of 28" would be
acceptable.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
B. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
C. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
D. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
Porch Columns and Railings
A. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
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B. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval as submitted and with the following conditions:
1. That the flooring is installed perpendicular to the front door entrance.
2. That the skirting board design proposed by the applicant is installed behind the skirt
frame.
3. That the skirt frame is 1 x 6 with a 1 x 4 lower board.
4. That the existing balusters be preserved and replaced only as necessary with exact
replicas.
5. That the stair tread shall be constructed in 2" x 12 lumber and that the treads shall be
bull-nosed with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10" wide, and overhang the risers by
1".
6. That the handrail matches the existing handrail in design and is installed 2" above
finished floor (AFF) with a minimum height of 28".
7. That all wood is primed and painted.
The property owner, Michael Buechner, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
He confirmed that the proposed column replacements will be cedar.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and given the maintenance issues, suggested that the
applicant consider composite material for the porch flooring, stairs, and column. The
Subcommittee also made the following recommendations:
• That the flooring is installed perpendicular to the long wall.
• That the skirting board design proposed by the applicant is installed behind the skirt
frame.
• That the skirt frame is 1 x 6 with a 1 x 4 lower board.
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• That the existing balusters be preserved and replaced only as necessary with exact
replicas.
• That the stair tread should be constructed in 2 x 12 lumber (5/4 x 12 is preferred) and
that the treads shall be bull-nosed with 1" overhang on three sides (except on the tread
that is directly adjacent to the building), min. 10" wide, and overhang the risers by 1".
Douglas Fir or composite material is acceptable.
• That the handrail matches the existing handrail in design and is installed 2" above
finished floor (AFF) with a minimum height of 28".
• That all wood is primed and painted.
• That all other details match the applicant's submitted photos/specifications.
• The ceiling wood should be tongue and groove, installed perpendicular to the long wall
preferred, but not required.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request as submitted and with
the Subcommittee's amendments as outlined above. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Segel. Passed unanimously.
Chairman Stroud facilitated a discussion regarding Commissioner recommendations of product
materials versus specific product brands to property owners, and while specific brands may be
seemingly superior to others, there are potential liabilities associated with brand
endorsements.
STAFF COMMENTS:
None.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro Approved: September 10, 2013
Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, September 10, 2013-6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. August 26, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 815 Grove—New House Construction (Tabled 7-9-13)
F. New Business
1. 435 Raymond St.—Install windows
2. 490 Division St.—Install front door; install front porch balustrade
3. 353 Spring St.—Replace front porch balustrade and columns
4. 407 Arlington—Install siding (Concept Approval)
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
1. 159 S. Channing Street—Demolish Garage (5-28-13)
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
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Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
September 10, 2013
MINUTES
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:05 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud,William Briska, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Kyle Tomsha
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
OLD BUSINESS
819 N. Grove—New House Construction (Tabled 7-9-13)
NEW BUSINESS
435 Raymond St.—Install windows
490 Division St.—Install front door; install front porch balustrade
353 Spring St.—Replace front porch balustrade and columns
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Wiedmeyer noted an amendment pertaining to incorrect property information
under"New Business"to the August 27, 2013 minutes.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the minutes as amended from the
Design Review Subcommittee meetings held on August 27, 2013.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Briska and passed 6-0.
ITEMS TABLED:
The following item was tabled due to the reason contained therein:
401 Arlington—Install siding (Concept Approval)—the property owner or a representative was
not present to discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
OLD BUSINESS:
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819 N.Grove[Empty Lot]—New House Construction
Project Background:
This item was tabled at the July 9, 2013 meeting until revised drawings showing all dimensions
and specifications could be provided by the applicant.
On March 26, 2013,the Design Review Subcommittee reviewed the property owner's
conceptual plan for new residential construction. The proposed building will be constructed on
an empty lot.At the March meeting,the Subcommittee requested that the building's design
incorporate Prairie style elements that are found throughout the neighborhood (i.e., piers
and/or sandstone, corner stones and wood banding). Based upon these recommendations,the
Subcommittee granted conceptual approval,with final project approval contingent upon the
property owner's submittal of final drawings for their review.
At the March meeting,the property owner was advised that the City requires that a garage be
constructed on the property. The property owner's submitted drawings also include a garage
drawing.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Primary Buildings-New Construction
A. should maintain, not disrupt,the existing pattern of surrounding historic buildings along the
street by being similar in:
1. Shape.Variations of asymmetrical, rectangular, and square forms are most appropriate
for the locally designated districts;
2. Scale (height and width). New construction should not vary more than one-half story
from the predominate building height typical of dwellings along a block. In most blocks
of the designated districts this would require new construction to be no more than two-
and-one-half stories;
3. Orientation to the street. Most dwellings in Elgin's locally designated districts have their
primary facades and main entrances oriented towards the street and this characteristic
should be maintained in any new construction;
4. Roof shape and pitch. Roof slope ratio for new construction should be a minimum of
6:12 to a maximum of 12:12 (6:12 refers to six inches of rise to 12 inches of run in
measuring slopes). Roof forms of gable and hipped variations are more common on
most blocks than roof forms which are flat, mansard, or gambrel forms;
5. Placement on the lot. Front and side yard setbacks should respect the setbacks found
along the block on which the building is sited.
6. Location and proportion of porches,entrances,and divisional bays. Porches should
have roof forms of gable, hipped or shed design and at least cover the entrance. Porches
extending partially or fully across the front of the building are recommended. Porches
should have columns and railings with balusters that are traditional in design and
compatible with the overall character of the building.
7. Location and proportion of windows. New window openings should be rectangular in
shape.Window proportions on the main facade should not exceed three-to-one in the
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height/width ratio or be any less than two-to-one in the height/width ratio (two-to-one
proportions are preferred). No horizontal sash, casement, or awning type windows
should be placed on the fronts of buildings. Special window types(i.e. oriel, bay,
stained, beveled glass) may be considered when compatible with the new structure's
design as well as the surrounding area;
8. Foundation height. Height of foundations should generally be similar to foundation
heights in the area. Foundation heights can increase along the sides or at the rear of a
building if necessary to follow slope contours. No slab foundations or at-grade
foundations should be utilized on the fronts or readily visible sides of buildings;
9. Porch height and depth. Porch heights and depths should be consistent with those of
adjacent dwellings;
10. Material and material color.
a. Foundations: Most historic dwelling foundations are of stone or cast concrete and new
construction should continue the appearance of these foundation materials. Poured
concrete, concrete block, and split faced concrete are acceptable foundation materials.
Stucco or other finishes are recommended to provide a textured surface.
b. Brick Dwellings: If the new construction is of brick,the brick should closely match typical
mortar and brick color tones found in the locally designated districts and along the
block. White or light mortars provide too much contrast with typical dark brick colors
and should be avoided.
c. Frame Dwellings: If the new construction is of frame,the preferred exterior material is
wood or a material which is similar to original materials in the area like clapboard,
shingle, stucco, etc.The use of cement board siding, or similar materials is acceptable if
it meets size recommendations and proper construction detailing of traditional siding
materials. If wood siding is used; its exposure should reflect the exposure of traditional
wood siding.
d. Windows:Wood construction is preferred for windows. However,the use of aluminum
clad windows is also acceptable as long as they are sized to be compatible with historic
window openings.The use of dark tinted windows, reflective glass and coatings for
windows is discouraged on readily visible sides of buildings.
11. Details and texture.The details and textures of building materials should be applied in a
manner consistent with traditional construction methods and compatible with
surrounding structures.
Staff Recommendation:
Upon review of the drawings, the applicant has incorporated several DRSC suggestions, most
notably, the proposed loft design and chimney location as well as the exterior material. The
Subcommittee also requested additional detail work pertaining to the doors,windows and
garage. The applicant has addressed these issues in their application.
Staff would recommend approval based upon the following conditions:
1. That the eaves and fascia boards are not wrapped with aluminum.
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2. That the solar panel tube panel be less pronounced in visibility.
Motion made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to un-table to the item.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Briska.
The motion passed unanimously.
The property owner, Doug Tomsha together with his architect, David Jurina,were present to
answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.Tomsha presented the committee with a sample
of steel roofing material which mimics architectural shingles that he is considering for his
building. Subcommittee members discussed the roofing appearance and the material's
durability. Although more expensive than asphalt shingles, Mr.Tomsha is considering them for
maintenance members. Should he prefer to install the steel shingles,the Subcommittee
requested the Mr.Tomsha return to them for approval. Mr.Tomsha also provided a sample of
the brick that he intends to use.
The Subcommittee reviewed the applicant's submitted drawings. At issue was the aluminum
wrapped fascia and soffit. The Subcommittee recommended that the applicant use pvc
composite material for these building features. Mr.Jurina confirmed that the building exterior
texture will be simulated stucco with a smooth finish. The Subcommittee also inquired about
the solar dome. Mr.Jurina confirmed that the dome will not be visible from the street. Due to
this,the Subcommittee did not have a concern with the dome. Should materials change from
the drawing,the Subcommittee requested that Mr.Tomsha return to the Subcommittee for
approval.
Motion made by Committee Member Briska to approve the COA as submitted and with the
Subcommittee's recommended amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
435 Raymond St.—Install Windows
Project Background:
The request to install/maintain vinyl basement windows that were installed without a
Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)was denied by the Design Review Subcommittee on
August 13, 2013. At that time,the applicant was advised of his right to appeal the
Subcommittee's decision. Per the Municipal Code,a written request must be submitted within
ten (10) days following the DRSC's decision. The applicant was advised of this requirement via
certified mail and also by phone.Staff did not receive a written request. Recently, however,
Staff was contacted by the applicant who expressed his intent to appeal the DRSC's August 13,
2013 decision. Given the expired timeframe,the applicant was advised that he would need to
re-appear before the DRSC to submit his COA request.
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The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
replace the vinyl basement windows.The property owner recently purchased the property and
installed the basement vinyl windows without a COA. The house also has existing vinyl
windows on its upper levels, but at this time,Staff has been unable to determine their
installation date.
Staff has advised the applicant of the City's Design Guidelines expectations for historic district
residents. Staff has also advised the applicant that vinyl windows are not permitted.The
applicant has requested the installation of aluminum clad wood windows as a corrective action
to the vinyl window installation.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size,and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage,excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair.As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
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Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.Staff
would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness if the following condition is
met:
1. That the new windows are aluminum-clad or wood windows to fit the existing openings
and that the specifications are approved by Staff prior to installation.
The property owner, Ignacio Perez was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Ms. Munro explained that the applicant's deadline to submit an appeals request expired and as
a result, he needed to appear before the Subcommittee to move forward with his intent to
appeal the DRSC's August 13, 2013 decision to deny his vinyl window installation request.
The Subcommittee asked Mr. Perez if he still wanted to maintain his vinyl basement windows.
Mr. Perez confirmed that he wished to do so.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request to retain the vinyl basement
windows.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.A roll call vote was taken and the
request failed unanimously.
490 Division St.-Install front door;install front porch balustrade
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to restore the front porch
balustrade and to install a front door. The applicant's COA request also includes repairs to the
porch columns, roof,window trim, siding, soffit,fascia, and cellar door.
Currently,the front porch does not have hand railings; however,the applicant's 1960s
photograph of the house as well as the City's 2008/2009 historic survey/inventory photos show
hand railings. (The front porch also exhibits shadow lines from the hand railing placement.) At
that time,the hand railing design was not appropriate for the building. The applicant has
submitted a photo of the proposed balustrade which exists at the adjacent property at 488
Division and would be appropriate for the style of the building. Both houses were built by John
Fluck.The railing at neighboring property appears to be original and therefore,the applicant
has requested permission for installing an exact replica at 490 Division.
The applicant has also submitted a request to install a salvaged full-view,wood replacement
front door(photo attached).
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Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and Railing(Applicable guidelines only)
A. Should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
B. Should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Doors and Door Features(Applicable guidelines only)
A. should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style,glazing(type of
glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is
acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or
Italianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style of the
house, if applicable.
E. should not be removed or altered.The original size of the door opening should not be
enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The property owner, Scott Savel, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Savel provided additional information for the Subcommittee regarding the handrails.
The Subcommittee discussed the project.
A motion was made by Commissioner Briska to approve the request as submitted
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. The motion passed 5-0, with one
abstention (Commissioner Save!).
353 Spring St.—Replace front porch balustrade and columns
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to replace the front porch
balustrade and columns. The existing railings and columns are wrought iron.Staff has
discussed the Design Guidelines with the applicant and the applicant has agreed to Staff's
recommended drawings (attached).
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Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and Railings(Applicable Guidelines)
A. should be preserved and maintained.Where repair is required, use
materials to match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and
railings have been removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters
(also called spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style
and period.The height of the railing should be in line with the
window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps(Applicable Guidelines)
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
Porch Columns
1. The porch columns should be wood or composite material.
2. The porch column design should be a Tuscan porch column as identified in the attached
drawing.
Porch Balustrade
1. That the handrail shall match the attached Staff drawing.
2. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top and bottom rail with chamfered edges,%" cove, 2x2
square balusters spaced no more than 3" on center.To ensure that the balusters have
straight corners rather than round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut
from 4x4s.
Front Stair Hand Railings
1. Per Code requirements,the stairs will require a hand railing.
2. That the stair handrail height is installed parallel to the porch handrail.
3. That the handrail and newel posts are installed parallel to the porch hand railing.
4. That the handrail is attached to the columns'face
5. The newel posts shall be 4 x 4 wrapped lx or 6 x 6(preferred as wrapping would only be
necessary at the top and bottom) and have a top and bottom 4 x 4 wrapped square design
with cove molding and cap.
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6. That the newel posts are attached to the bottom riser.
7. All other details to match porch balustrade in design and dimension.
The property owner's representative, Freddy Rogel,was present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee reviewed the project and given the maintenance issues, suggested that the
applicant consider composite material for the porch flooring, stairs, and column. The
Subcommittee also made the following recommendations:
Columns
• New columns shall be Tuscan style (round, 8") and tapered to match the
submitted drawing. Columns should be treated wood (composite material is
acceptable).
Balustrade
• That the balustrade be installed to follow curve of the porch.
• That the top rail is 2x4 with chamfered top.
• That the bottom rail is a 2x4 with chamfered edges, and installed 2" (AFF).
• That the balusters are 2x2's with %" cove at top, and spaced no more than 3" on
center.To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than round corners,
it is recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
Front Stair Handrailing
• The hand railing top and bottom railings and balusters must match the porch
balustrade in size and dimension.
• That the stair handrail height is installed parallel to the porch handrailing.
• That the handrail is attached to the columns'face.
• That the newel posts are attached to the bottom riser.
• To match the existing columns(8" round),the front porch newel posts shall be half-
height columns and constructed to match the porch's full-length columns.
• The front porch newel posts shall have a flat top with 6" ball cap.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request as submitted and with
the Subcommittee's amendments as outlined above. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Wiedmeyer. Passed unanimously.
STAFF COMMENTS:
None.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro Approved: October 8, 2013
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
rElgin Heritage Commission
2013 Historic Rehabilitation Grant Application Grant Review Subcommittee Meeting
Thursday,September 19,2013- 8:30 a.m.
City Hall
Community Development Department Conference Room
150 Dexter Court, Elgin,IL 60120
AGENDA
A. Welcome
B. Selection of Subcommittee Chairman
C. Review of 2013 Historic Rehabilitation Grant Applications, Round 3
a. 50/50 Application Review and Grant Recommendation
1. 413 Douglas Ave.
2. 733 Douglas Ave.
3. 711 Douglas Ave.
4. 844 Brook St.
5. 134 Hinsdell PI.
6. 16 Rugby PI.
C 7. 600 Margaret Pl.
8. 40 N. Gifford St.
b. 75/25 Application Review and Grant Recommendation
1. 427 St. Charles St.
2. 357 St. Charles St.
3. 712 Brook St.
4. 564 N.Spring St.
D. Other
E. Adjournment
POSTED: September 16,2013
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT(847) 931-5620 (TDD (847) 931-5616)
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
r
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 205 N. Gifford— Install Siding
2. 141 Hill Ave.— Demolition of Rear Addition and Side Entrance Re-Location
3. 16 Rugby PI. —Install Window
4. 55 S. Liberty St.— Install Windows
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
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Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
September 24, 2013
MINUTES
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:05 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud,William Briska, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson and Dennis Roxworthy
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Judy Van Dusen,Julie Schmitt
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
205 N. Gifford—Install Siding
141 Hill Ave.—Demolition of Rear Addition and Side Entrance Re-Location
16 Rugby PI.—Install Window
55 S. Liberty St.—Install Windows
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes were not submitted for approval.
ITEMS TABLED:
None.
OLD BUSINESS:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
205 N. Gifford—Install Siding
Project Background:
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The property owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness application for the
following projects:gutter installation, paint,and siding replacement.
The property owner intends to install half-round gutters and to scrape and paint the entire
house. The applicant has also requested approval for the removal of the existing siding and in
his project summary(attached) identified the following issues and proposed rehabilitation plan
for the siding.
Siding Issues
• Cupped boards: much of the existing cedar clapboard siding is severely cupped far beyond
facilitating the ability to pull it back into its original position
• Brittle boards: attempts to replace the existing damaged boards(both by myself and by a
professional siding company), resulted in the cedar boards above and/or below the cupped
boards to split rendering themselves damaged and themselves in need of replacement
• Broken boards: some planks have sections(chunks), broken off of the exposed portion
resulting in the under portion exposed to the weather
• Split boards: many of the boards are split resulting in varying degrees of gaps and weather
exposure
• Siding misalignment: many of the inside comers are misaligned to the adjacent wall.This does
not result in a potential integrity risk to the structure, it does however reveal an issue of
quality that I believe, is not in keeping with the desired outcome that the Heritage
Commission is hoping to create for the City of Elgin.
Rehabilitation Plan
• Retain all of the existing trim on and around the windows and doors
• Retain most the existing trim on the corners of the house where the siding butts into the
corners. However,six corner faces would be replaced
• Replace all the existing cedar clapboard siding with new cedar clapboard siding.
• All siding will be 6"x1/2" beveled cedar siding.All exposure to the weather will be 4-1/2".
• All siding will be primed and painted.
• House wrap will be applied before siding installation.
• Leveling and plumbing the siding will be accomplished with a transom.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Gutters
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced if possible.
B. Should be located away from significant architectural features on the front of the
building.
C. Should provide proper drainage through use of downspouts and splash blocks to avoid
water damage to the building. Round downspouts are more appropriate than
rectangular forms; however, rectangular forms are also acceptable.
D. Should be designed to channel the water as far away from the dwelling as possible.
Downspouts should extend at least 4 to 6 feet, or utilize a splash block.
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E. Should be half-round rather than "K" or ogee, is of hang-on type. Ogee is permissible if
fascia is vertical.
F. Should have straps nailed under, not on top, of roofing material. Metal flashing should
also be properly installed so as not to conceal any crown molding in the roof eaves.
G. Should not result in the removal of existing eave features.
H. should be sized proportionate to the building. Gutters and downspouts should not
exceed 6".
Paint Removal and Surface Preparation
A. Should be performed by manual scraping or by using appropriate chemical removers.
A paint shaver may be used, but with caution so as to avoid removal of wood siding.
B. Should be performed cautiously when removing paint through heat plates or heat guns
to avoid unnecessary damage to the wood through charring or fire
C. Should not be removed by abrasive techniques such as sand or water blasting since this
can damage the wood and introduce moisture into the building.
Wood Siding(Applicable Guidelines)
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,
wood siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to
match the original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed
beneath synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired
and the synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings,the
original siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the
"ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should
generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced, they
should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-
based materials such as particleboard,gyp board, or pressboard. These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair, or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
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The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However,if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards, base boards, molding
and windows should be installed.
Staff Recommendation:
Upon a site visit conducted on September 20, 2013, it did not appear that over 50%of the
original siding was damaged and beyond repair. Therefore,while Staff recommends approval
of the applicant's paint and gutter request, staff does not recommend approval of the COA
siding request as submitted.Staff would recommend approval and with the following
conditions based upon one of two options:
Option 1
If the Design Review Subcommittee determines that less than 50%of the siding is intact,that
the existing siding is preserved and that boards are replaced only as necessary with a profile to
match the existing material, size, and dimension.Siding must be primed and painted.
Option 2
If the Design Review Subcommittee determines that over 50%of the siding is beyond repair,
that the exterior siding is installed as per the details outlined in the applicant's request. Siding
must be primed and painted.
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The property owner, Mark Graves, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Graves highlighted issues with the existing siding and the reasons therein for requesting the
replacement of all of the exterior siding.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and agreed that over 50%of the siding was
deteriorated. The Subcommittee recommended that the replacement siding be installed as
follows: all exterior siding should be replaced with clear cedar(no knots) installed smooth side
out,follow existing horizontal lines(line up with the windows rather than the corners), and that
the visible (outside) corner siding line up.All other details should match the property owner's
submitted specifications.
Motion made by Commissioner Savel to approve the COA as submitted and with the
Subcommittee's recommended amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
141 Hill Ave.—Demolition of Rear Addition and Side Entrance Re-Location
Project Background:
The owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the
rear addition of the house. The Commission previously approved the demolition of the addition
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on March 9, 2010.At that time, the demolition request was put forward with anticipation that
the rear addition would be reconstructed.Since that time,the property has changed
ownership, and the current owners have proposed the demolition to allow for a patio. (Please
see attached project description.)
The applicant has proposed the creation of an entrance on the east elevation and in doing so
has requested approval for the removal of the existing north door entrance and closing it over
with an exterior wall.
Due to time and expenses associated with repairing the property's garage doors as well and in
an effort to create easier accessibility,the applicant has also proposed the installation of
overhead steel garage doors for the structure's three bays.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Demolition
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler)than the original dwelling in scale, design,
and placement.
C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials, color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights, etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
Garage Doors
A. Should be maintained to the greatest extent possible, but may be retrofitted with
modern hardware and custom garage door openers. If the original doors are missing or
too deteriorated to repair,they should be replaced with new doors that fit the original
opening and are appropriate to the design and period of construction of the garage.
B. Should be raised panel designs,with a solid core, if proposed to be in metal designs.
Flush design doors (without raised panels) unless retrofitted to look like traditional
doors and hollow core metal doors should be avoided when possible.
C. Should have windows simple in design with clear glass, if windows are necessary.
Muntins in a simple design may also be used.The use of ornamental stained glass and
openings in decorative shapes such as sunbursts and oval designs are not permitted.
D. Should have painted metal panel doors to match the house in a color appropriate to the
period of the house.
Staff Recommendation:
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Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. That the overhead garage doors match the applicant's submitted specifications(CHI Model
5250).
2. That the overhead garage door windows be installed per the CHI Stockton window design
and match the existing doors' divided lite patterns.
The property owners,Jean and Paul Bednar were present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. and Mrs. Bednar explained the reasons for the proposed re-location of the
north elevation's entrance(to the rear elevation of the property). They also clarified that
although the rear addition would be demolished, a roof overhang would be installed to cover a
patio.The Bednars also discussed the economic hardship involved with repairing the garage
door versus installing their proposed overhang garage doors.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and determined that the property owners should
return to the Subcommittee for approval of the rear roof overhang.The Subcommittee also
suggested that photographs be taken of the existing garage doors for documentation purposes.
Motion made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request to demolish the rear elevation, to
cover over and relocate the north side entrance to the rear of the building, to install garage
doors as per Staffs recommendation, and to require the applicant to return to the
Subcommittee with drawing of the proposed rear roof overhang.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
16 Rugby PI.—Install Window
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to modify
the 2"d floor window opening on the building's north elevation. The request has been made
due to interior renovations that have presented issues with the practicality of the window's
existing location and the property owner's effort to accommodate the interior design.As a
result,the applicant has proposed changing the window opening from that which fits a double-
hung window to fitting a horizontal window.The applicant has proposed the installation of a
stained glass window whose color will complement another stained glass window located on
the building.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications
Windows
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A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size,and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair.As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The property owners,Jean and Paul Bednar were present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. The proposed window replacement and redesign of the opening is to
accommodate interior bathroom rehabilitation efforts.
The Subcommittee discussed the project. Questions were raised regarding the impact of the
altered window opening to the existing rhythm of the building's windows' placement. The
Subcommittee recommended that the altered window opening should center align with the
two lower level windows. To make the window appear longer and to fit in better with the
elevation's overall window placement and design, the Subcommittee recommended that a
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curved element(similar to 653 Douglas Ave.) be added below the lower sill.Several suggestions
were provided and the applicant was requested to obtain final staff approval for the design.
A motion was made by Commissioner Briska to approve the request as submitted and as per the
amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Save!. The motion passed unanimously.
55 S. Liberty St.—Install Windows
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to repair
and/or replace the windows located on the building's northwest and southwest turrets and to
install curved wood storm windows on the building's northwest turret.The property owner has
proposed replacement windows with appropriate jambs and curved wood sashes for the
double-hung windows. The applicant's request also includes the repair of the crown molding
between the 2nd and 3rd floor on the northwest turret and to repair or replace rotted sills,trim,
shingles, and siding on the building's turret,tower, northeast and southeast alcoves.
Replacement siding,window sills, corner trim, drip cap, and water table board on the first floor
below the bay windows facing south have been proposed.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size,and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design.Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair.As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size,shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
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F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Wood Siding(Applicable Guidelines)
D. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
original in size, placement,and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath
synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired and the
synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings, the original
siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or
outlines of decorative missing features are revealed,these should generally be
replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced, they should be recorded
through photographs or drawings for future replication.
E. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards, base boards, molding
and windows should be installed.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The property owner's representative,John Wiedmeyer,was present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. Wiedmeyer described the project.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and clarified which windows would be repaired versus
replaced.They also confirmed that the proposed siding replacement would be clear cedar.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as submitted
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Segel. The motion passed 4-0, with one abstention
(Commissioner Wiedmeyer).
STAFF COMMENTS:
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Prior to the meeting, Staff received a Certificate of Appropriateness request from the property
owner of 137 N. Channing St.to install newel posts.The applicant and property owner,Julie
Schmitt was present at the meeting and requested approval for her proposed replacement
newel posts.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and determined that more review time was needed
and that the newel post project should be placed on the October 8,2013 agenda.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Briska.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved: October 8, 2013
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
PUBLIC HEARING
October 1, 2013
City Council chambers
150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
AGENDA
Meeting Commences 7:00 p.m.
Roll Call:
New Business:
1. Appeal of Design Review Subcommittee decision:435 Raymond St.
A. Welcome
B. Introduction of the members of the Commission
C. Explanation of Procedures:
D. Information on the property at 435 Raymond St.
E. Closing Comments:
Adjournment
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Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
October 8,2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:05 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2"d floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
William Briska
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Betsy Couture, Krissy Palermo
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
1. 137 N. Channing—Install front porch staircase newel posts
2. 111 N. Liberty—Install windows; remove front entrance
3. 605 Grace St.—Rehabilitate Siding
4. 356-358 N. Spring —Install side porch handrails
5. 644 Douglas Ave.—Install rear stoop
6. 435 Raymond St.—Install basement windows
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes were not submitted for approval.
ITEMS TABLED:
None.
OLD BUSINESS:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
137 N. Channing—Install front porch staircase newel posts
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Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to install
newel posts for her front porch.The existing newel posts are deteriorated and in disrepair. The
applicant has submitted specifications for the newel posts(attached). The applicant's selected
newel posts have been proposed to complement the front porch turned balusters.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Stairs and Steps(Applicable Guidelines)
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
At the time of Staff's review,the circumference of the newel post and ball cap was unknown
and staff is confirming the details with the applicant. Should the post dimensions meet the
Design Guidelines Standards, Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of
Appropriateness as submitted.
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The property owner,Julie Schmitt,was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. In an
effort to match the porch's balusters, Ms. Schmitt advised the Subcommittee that her
requested replacement newel posts will be special ordered.
Ms. Munro presented emailed comments from local resident, Dan Miller,who suggested that
the posts should match the columns rather than the balusters and requested the Subcommittee
to consider this suggestion.The Subcommittee discussed the comments and also addressed
them with Ms.Schmitt who indicated that her preference was for her proposed newel posts.
Upon further discussion, it was determined that Ms.Schmitt's proposed newel posts
satisfactorily met the Design Guidelines.
Motion made by Commissioner Savel to approve the COA as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed 5-0-1(Commissioner Wiedmeyer).
111 N. Liberty—Install windows; remove front entrance
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement windows,to
remove one of the two front entrances and the respective concrete entryway stairs(southwest
entrance), and to enlarge the remaining front entryway on the multi-unit building.
The house is a two-unit building and clad with aluminum siding. It was identified as non-
contributing in the Elgin Historic District Survey. The applicant has proposed the installation of
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an aluminum clad bay or bow style window to replace the front picture window. The applicant
has proposed the installation of a double-hung aluminum clad wood window as a replacement
to the removed front entryway.The double-hung design of the window has been proposed to
match the existing double-hung windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack,and
cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as
their size,shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Doors and Door Features
A. Should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the
dwelling. Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style,
glazing (type of glass and area) and lights(pane configuration). Wood or solid
core fiberglass is acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
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B. Should be constructed of solid wood panels,such as the four-panel Homestead or
ltalianate design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style
of the house, if applicable.
D. Should only involve artificial materials such as "lexan"or other acrylic based
materials, if applicable.
E. Should not be removed or altered.The original size of the door opening should
not be enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. Should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front
entrance or at side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted with the
following condition:
1. Pending the light configuration of the proposed bay window, new muntins shall not be
snap-on muntins. Instead, the muntins shall be installed on both sides of the window.
2. That the proposed new double-hung window opening dimensions match the existing
double-hung window openings.
The property owner,Juan Zuniga,was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Zuniga requested to install double doors for his existing single-door front entrance. For concept
approval, he presented the Subcommittee with photographs of doors he took from around the
historic district. Mr.Zuniga also advised the Subcommittee that he intends to remove the siding
from the house in the future.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and addressed the following items as follows:
Removal of southwest front entrance and concrete stoop
The of southwest front entrance and concrete stoop is approved.The infill/patched siding to
cover over the entrance must match the existing siding and be staggered.
Window replacement
• All replacement windows must be wood or aluminum clad wood windows.
• The picture window will be replaced with a bay window flanked by two double-hung
windows (1/1 light)to fit the existing opening.Trimwork must match the existing
window trim details on the house.
• A double-hung(1/1 light)window will be installed to replace the removed front
entrance (southwest location).The replacement window opening height must be
parallel to the picture window height. The width of the opening and trim work must
match the building's existing double-hung window openings. Shutters that match the
existing shutters must be added to the window.
• All window awnings must be removed.
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• The light fixture located at the southwest front entryway must be relocated to the south
side entrance.
Front door replacement.
Victorian double doors similar to doors found within the historic district may be installed;
however,the width of the door entrance must not exceed 54" and the door entrance height
may not exceed 84". The Subcommittee recommended that the applicant consider exploring
salvaged doors for replacement options. The awning must be removed. Final approval for the
doors may be approved by staff.
Motion made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as submitted and with the
Subcommittee's recommended amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
605 Grace St.—Rehabilitate Siding
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to rehabilitate the siding on
the house.The house was formerly clad with aluminum siding.The applicant obtained a COA
for the removal with the condition that Staff conduct a site inspection following the completion
of the siding removal.The applicant intends to repair the existing siding. The applicant has
requested permission to remove the siding which partially encloses the side porch located on
the northeast corner of the building.
Upon staff's site inspection,the siding appears to be in good to fair condition. Of significance, is
that the shadowlines of the window hoods are visible.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Wood Siding
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary,
wood siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to
match the original in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed
beneath synthetic sidings such as aluminum, asbestos,or vinyl should be repaired
and the synthetic sidings removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings,the
original siding should be repaired to match the original, caulked and painted. If the
"ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing features are revealed, these should
generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features are not replaced,they
should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to
the siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
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C. Should have original asbestos shingles kept stained or painted. If asbestos shingle
siding is deteriorated or poses a health hazard, it may be removed and replaced with
wood or other substitute siding. Removal of asbestos siding should follow
hazardous material guidelines.
D. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or
aluminum, if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-
based materials such as particleboard,gyp board,or pressboard. These materials
generally do not possess textures or designs which closely match original wood
siding. However, if more than 50%of the original siding material is damaged beyond
repair,or missing, substitute materials may be applied if the following conditions are
met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
The application of these materials must not result in the concealment of or removal of original
decorative detailing or trim including window and door surrounds. However, if no trim or
surrounds exist then new wood trim in the form of fascia, corner boards, base boards, molding
and windows should be installed.
Substitute materials should match the dimensions of the original wood siding as closely as
possible. The cement board should abut the wood trim and be caulked to prevent moisture
damage.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends the approval of the COA as submitted and with the following conditions:
1. Damaged siding shall be repaired, epoxy preferred
2. Nail holes must be patched with putty,epoxy preferred.
3. New siding shall be installed only as necessary with replacements-in-kind to match the
original siding profile and exposure.
4. All replacement wood material shall be clear(no knots), cedar preferred and installed
smooth side out.
5. All missing window hoods to match shadows must be installed (design should be similar to
205 N. Gifford and 256 Division—photos attached).
6. Appropriate trim boards shall be repaired or installed as necessary at the corners and
around doors and windows,which includes but is not limited to the corner boards and
front window caps.
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7. Siding shall be sanded, primed and painted.
The property owner representative and contractor,Juan Robillard was present to answer
questions of the Subcommittee. Mr. Robillard provided a brief overview of the siding project.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and suggested that the following items take place:
• Damaged siding shall be repaired, epoxy preferred.
• A drip cap shall be added above the water table.
• All bed molding,window trim,window hoods, and corner boards shall be
repaired/replaced with replacements-in-kind.
• Shadow lines indicating window hoods and trim and other details must be replaced
with exact replicas in size and dimension. The Subcommittee recommended that
the final design have staff approval.
• A half post should be added to the porch.The metal hand railings shall be removed;
however, replacement handrails will need final approval of the Design Review
Subcommittee prior to installation.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as per staff
recommendations and as per the amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. The motion passed unanimously.
356-358 N.Spring —Install side porch handrails
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to install
handrails on the stoop located on the building's south elevation.The applicant has installed
temporary handrails for safety reasons. However,the temporary handrails were installed
without an approved COA. The applicant has submitted a drawing for the handrails.
Upon Staffs site visit, Staff assessed minor repairs to the siding(approximately 4-5
replacement boards approved under a previous COA). Staff has advised the applicant that the
siding is not appropriate as its profile and exposure does not fit the existing dimensions. Staff
has advised the applicant that the siding will need to be removed and replaced with
replacements-in-kind.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and railings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use
materials to match the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and
railings have been removed or replaced.
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C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters
(also called spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style
and period.The height of the railing should be in line with the
window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30 inches in height.
Porch Stairs and Steps
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted and with the
following conditions:
1. The handrail shall have a 2x4 top rail with chamfered edges,%" cove,2x2 square
balusters,with a maximum of 3" on center,square corners.That the bottom rail is a 2x4
with chamfered edges, 2"AFF.To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather
than round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
2. That a newel post is added to the bottom of the stairs.
3. Newel posts to be 8" round columns, half height,with 6" ball caps.
4. That the handrails shall be primed and painted.
5. Should the stair treads require replacement that the treads be constructed in 2x12 lumber
and bull-nosed with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10"wide.
6. That the infill siding is replaced with smooth cedar siding, no knots installed smooth side
out to match the building's existing(original) clapboard profile and exposure.
The property owner, Reena Mohan,was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Local neighborhood residents, Betsy Couture and Krissy Palermo discussed concerns with the 2-
unit building and changes that have been taking place on the property, including window and
front door replacements.Several of the changes that appear to have been conducted without
the required COAs. Ms. Munro addressed the concerns and said that Code Enforcement had
assessed the property and determined that the front doors had not been replaced and also that
the property owner had been advised of the City's COA process. Ms. Munro also updated the
Subcommittee regarding the window concerns on site and her conversation with the property
owner. At that time, Ms. Munro had been advised by the property owner that the windows
had only had the panes replaced. However, due to the pending concerns and respective
alteration clarifications needed, Ms. Munro said that she would follow-up with Code
Enforcement and the property owner to address the issues involved.
The Subcommittee inquired about the window and door alterations and Ms. Mohan stated that
it was only window repairs of new panes that had taken place and that the front doors had not
been replaced.
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The Subcommittee discussed the subject COA request and made the following
recommendations:
• The newel posts shall be 4 x 4 wrapped lx square design with cove molding and
pyramid cap.
• The handrail shall be installed directly below the newel post cap.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request as submitted and with
the amendment above to Staff's recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. The motion passed unanimously.
644 Douglas Ave.—Install rear stoop
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to reconstruct the
property's rear stoop. The COA was filed upon City staffs notification that the rear stoop new
construction had begun with an approved permit.The applicant has advised Staff that the
former stoop was deteriorating(photo attached) and unsafe.
Upon Staffs inspection,the new decking and stoop handrails do not meet the guidelines. The
flooring has not been installed perpendicular to the house and the balustrade is not
appropriate.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
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B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles)should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Due Staff recommends the approval of the COA as submitted and with the following conditions:
• The wood decking shall be 1 x 4 tongue and groove and be installed perpendicular to
the house.
• The handrail shall be at a minimum 30" but no more than 36" in height above finished
floor.
• The handrails shall have a 2 x 4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, 2" above finished
floor.
• The handrail shall have a 2 x 4 top rail with chamfered edges,%" cove,2 x 2 square
balusters, 3" on center.To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than
round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut from 4 x 4s.
• The newel posts shall have a top and bottom 4 x 4 wrapped lx square design (6x6 is also
acceptable)with cove molding and cap.
• The skirt frame shall be 1 x 6 with a 1 x 4 lower board.
• The skirting board shall be 1 x 4 and installed behind the frame, 1"spacing with 8"
header.
• The stair tread shall be constructed in 2 x 12 lumber and the treads shall be bull-nosed
with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10" wide, and overhang the risers by 1".
• All other details to match the attached Staff recommended drawing.
The property owner's representatives, Donna Middleton and Adam Kylconen were present to
answer questions of the Subcommittee. Ms. Middleton advised the Subcommittee that the
project had proceeded without a COA as she was unaware that projects located on the rear of
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the house required the COA. She further advised the Subcommittee that the stoop required
replacement due to its deterioration and the respective safety concerns.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and made the following amendments to the request:
• Due to the absence of a roof overhang,the flooring may be 5/4" decking and be
installed perpendicular to the house.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request as submitted as per
Staff recommendations and with the amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. The motion passed unanimously.
435 Raymond St.—Install basement windows
The request to install/maintain vinyl basement windows that were installed without a
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)was denied by the Design Review Subcommittee on
September 10, 2013. At that time,the applicant was advised of his right to appeal the
Subcommittee's decision. Per the Municipal Code, a written request must be submitted within
ten (10) days following the DRSC's decision.Staff received the request to appeal the DRSC's
Decision and a public hearing was scheduled for October 1, 2013. Unfortunately,the applicant
did not appear and the public hearing was not conducted. Because the public hearing was not
opened,the DRSC must render a new decision to the applicant's request to install the vinyl
windows and the corresponding request to appeal the decision must be re-submitted to comply
with the Code required timeline.
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
replace the vinyl basement windows.The property owner recently purchased the property and
installed the basement vinyl windows without a COA. The house also has existing vinyl
windows on its upper levels, but at this time,Staff has been unable to determine their
installation date.
Staff has advised the applicant of the City's Design Guidelines expectations for historic district
residents. Staff has also advised the applicant that vinyl windows are not permitted.The
applicant has requested the installation of aluminum clad wood windows as a corrective action
to the vinyl window installation.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location,size,and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
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design.Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement
windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining
whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but
not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness
or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair.As
to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be
replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than
the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their
size,shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within
the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.Staff
would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness if the following condition is
met:
1. That the new windows are aluminum-clad or wood windows to fit the existing openings
and that the specifications are approved by Staff prior to installation.
The property owner, Ignacio Perez was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee asked Mr. Perez as to whether he still wished to pursue the retention of the
vinyl basement windows. Mr. Perez indicated his willingness to install aluminum clad wood
windows; however,for economic reasons, he is unable to do so all at once. He inquired about
the length of time allotted for installing the windows. The Subcommittee identified a six month
period as the expected project completion expectation. Upon hearing this, Mr. Perez indicated
that he would be able to install the aluminum clad wood windows and that he would not
appeal the DRSC's decision. Because the DRSC previously made the decision (9-10-13)denying
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the vinyl windows, but approving the aluminum clad wood window installation, a vote was not
required.
STAFF COMMENTS:
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Segel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved: 10-22-13
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, October 8, 2013-6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. October 8, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. 115 Hill Ave. —Replace stair treads and second floor front hand railing
2. 141 Hill Ave.—Install windows
3. 398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage
4. 490 Division—Install garage door
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
1. Administrative Approval for Replacement Windows
J. Adjournment
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Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
October 22, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud,John Roberson, Dennis Roxworthy,Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
William Briska, Pat Segel
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller was present to request the Subcommittee's consideration of his proposed visual
porch guidelines.The visual guidelines would provide historic district residents with specific
images that clearly communicate the Guideline specifications. He requested to be placed on a
future meeting's agenda to discuss in greater detail. He also distributed his guidelines to the
Subcommittee members and expressed his willingness to share them in electronic format as
well.The Subcommittee discussed Mr. Miller's porch guidelines' proposal and also identified
their long time goal to produce a visual field guide for all of the Guidelines' specifications.The
Subcommittee thanked Mr. Miller for sharing his ideas and directed staff to place his item on a
future agenda.
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
1. 115 Hill Ave.—Replace stair treads and second floor front hand railing
2. 141 Hill Ave.—Install windows
3. 398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage
4. 490 Division—Install garage door
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to approve the minutes October 8, 2013
meeting, as amended.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
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ITEMS TABLED:
1. 115 Hill Ave.—Replace stair treads and second floor front hand railing-the property
owner or a representative was not present to discuss or answer questions of the
Subcommittee.
2. 398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage—the request was tabled until revised garage
drawings are submitted.
OLD BUSINESS:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
141 Hill Ave.—Install windows
Project Background:
The owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace three
windows located on the south elevation of the building's second story bay window, and an
additional second story window on the located to the west of the bay window.The proposed
window replacements are replacements-in-kind (wood, double-hung, 1/1).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location,size, and design and
with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors:damage, excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
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G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
The property owners,Jean and Paul Bednar were present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. and Mrs. Bednar presented their proposed window replacement project,
which includes special ordering a sash kit to match the existing windows.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and advised that the proposed replacements as
submitted do not contribute to the rounded/arched detail of the bay window opening.To
assure that the arched shape is maintained,the Commissioners requested that corner pieces be
added to maintain a continuous appearance of the window openings.
Motion made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as submitted and with the
amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxowrthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct
demolish the existing one-story,two car garage and to replace it with a two-story garage,two
car garage. The applicant has proposed a garage that will have a tower feature. The applicant's
drawings indicate that the wood siding will match the house's existing wood siding profile.
(Currently,the house and garage are clad with synthetic siding.)
At the time of COA submittal, staff received drawings for the south and west elevations only.
Staff has requested drawings for the north and east elevations but to date, has not received
them.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Demolition
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler)than the original dwelling in scale, design,
and placement.
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C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials, color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights,etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds,Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in
nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of
the associated dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the
dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms if the dwelling has a
hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally
designated districts.These include at rear lot lines,adjacent to
alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials,and roof shape to
the associated dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible
from the street,secondary buildings may have exterior substitute
siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim
and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages,
wood paneled doors are more appropriate than paneled doors of
vinyl, aluminum,or steel.Wood paneled overhead roll-up doors are
widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car
garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one
double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but
windows may not be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be
painted to match the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with
traditionally designed structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed
to be used.
1. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
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Staff recommend does not recommend approval as submitted. Staff would recommend
approval if the following conditions are met:
1. That drawings for the north and east elevations be submitted for approval.
2. That garage's tower feature be removed from the drawing and that the proposed design
be simplified to match the house's architecture. Staff does not believe that the tower
architectural detail of the building complements the house's architecture. Per the
Guidelines, garages should be simple in design to match the character of the house.
3. That the specifications for the garage service and overhead doors be submitted for
approval.
4. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar, no knots and installed
smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
The applicant,Javier Alfaro was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee. Mr.Alfaro
discussed his project and requested concept approval for the proposed garage design. He
indicated his willingness to modify the design according to the Subcommittee's
recommendation.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and agreed with the Staff recommendation that the
tower was not appropriate for the building, and suggested that the garage drawing should
incorporate additional details that complement the house, including the gable ornament and
cross gables.The Subcommittee recommended several historic district garages that that Mr.
Alfaro may want to consider for ideas. Mr.Alfaro will work with staff to revise his drawings to
meet the Design Guidelines.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to table further consideration of the request.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel. The motion passed unanimously.
490 Division St. -Install garage door
The property owner has submitted a request to amend his previously submitted application for
garage door installation (COA Approved by DRSC: 12-11-12; Building Permit No. 12-21435).
In December 2012,the property owner submitted an application to restore the garage's original
doors; however, since that time,the property owner has amended his request due to
installation issues.The amended Certificate of Appropriateness request is to install a steel,
overhead garage door(specifications attached: Model MSST, 6 panels, no windows).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in
nature.
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B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of
the associated dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the
dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms if the dwelling has a
hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally
designated districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to
alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials,and roof shape to
the associated dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible
from the street,secondary buildings may have exterior substitute
siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim
and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages,
wood paneled doors are more appropriate than paneled doors of
vinyl, aluminum, or steel.Wood paneled overhead roll-up doors are
widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car
garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However,one
double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but
windows may not be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be
painted to match the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with
traditionally designed structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed
to be used.
1. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the COA as submitted.
The property owner, Commissioner Savel recused himself from the Subcommittee and
presented his project.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and inquired as to reasons for replacing the garage
door with a new door, rather than an original as intended.After considerable thought, due to
the installation issues, Mr. Savel determined that an overhead door was a better option.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve the request as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. The motion passed 4-1-0(Abstention:
Commissioner Savel).
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STAFF COMMENTS:
Recently, Staff has received several window replacement requests and inquired as to the
Subcommittee's preference for administrative approval versus Subcommittee approval. In the
past,staff has approved window replacements located on the elevations that lack visibility from
the street and on the rear elevation that meet the Guidelines. The Subcommittee advised staff
that unless a COA is submitted that replaces a significant amount of windows, that Staff should
provide administrative approval for requests that clearly meet the Guidelines in that are either
in-kind or aluminum clad wood window replacements. Additionally,the Subcommittee
directed staff to provide administrative approval for garage doors, but recommended that staff
encourage applicants to pursue carriage house door designs as appropriate for the building's
design.
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Segel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roberson.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro Approved: November 26, 2013
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 115 Hill Ave.— Replace stair treads and second floor front hand railing
(Tabled 10-22-13)
2. 398 Bent St—Garage Construction (Tabled 10-22-13)
F. New Business
1. 851 N. Spring St— Install windows
2. 10-12 Geneva St— Install front porch balustrade and stairs
3. 330 Division— Install windows
4. 369 May St—Install two front entrance stoops, remove west elevation entrance
5. 711 Douglas Ave— Rehabilitate front porch
G. Other
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 -6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers, 150 Dexter Court, Elgin, IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. October 22, 2013
D. Recognize Persons Present
E. Old Business
1. 851 N. Spring St—Install windows (Tabled 11-12-13)
2. 398 Bent St—Reconstruct Garage (Tabled 10-22-13; 11-12-13)
F. New Business
1. 605 Grace St- Install rear porch hand railings
2. 163 N. Channing St. —Install rear porch
3. 109 Hill Ave. —Reconstruct Garage
G. Other
1. Design Guideline Porch Drawing Discussion
H. Tabled Items
I. Staff Comments
J. Adjournment
THE CITY OF ELGIN IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO PLAN TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND WHO REQUIRED CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OBSERVE AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, OR WHO
HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE MEETING OR THE FACILITIES, ARE REQUESTED TO
CONTACT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ADA COORDINATOR AT (847) 931-5620 {TDD (847) 931-5616}
PROMPTLY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF ELGIN TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE PERSONS.
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
November 26,2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:10 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers(Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, Pat Segel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
William Briska
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
OLD BUSINESS
1. 851 N. Spring St—Install windows—Replace stair treads and second floor front hand
railing(Tabled 10-22-13)
2. 398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage
NEW BUSINESS
1. 605 Grace St- Install rear porch hand railings
2. 163 N. Channing St.—Install rear deck
3. 109 Hill Ave.—Reconstruct Garage
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were submitted for approval.
ITEMS TABLED:
109 Hill Ave.— Reconstruct Garage-the property owner or a representative was not present to
discuss or answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel table the item.The motion was seconded by
Committee Member Commissioner Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
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Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to untable the items.The motion was
seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
851 N.Spring St.—Replace stair treads and second floor front hand railing
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED ON NOVEMBER 12,2013 DUE TO LACK OF PROPERTY OWNER REPRESENTATION.
The applicant has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace eight double-hung(1/1)
wood windows with eight double-hung(1/1) aluminum clad wood windows to match the
existing windows in size,design, and dimension. Three windows are located on the building's
south(1)and rear(2)elevations and five windows on the 2"d story front(faces west) elevation.
On October 25, 2013,Staff inspected the windows.The sash of several of the windows exhibits
signs of disrepair, much of which may be due to the absence of storm windows. Many of the
windows would also need to be re-glazed and re-roped.The windows are repairable; however,
the applicant has submitted cost estimates which show the repair costs at$22,000 and
replacement costs at$9,500.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design
and with their original materials and numbers of panes(glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades
where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary,the
recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and
design. Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as
replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in
determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement
shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage,excessive weathering,
loss of soundness or integrity of the wood,deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and
cost to repair.As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may
be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the
windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate
replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions.Aluminum extruded windows
are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows,as long as
their size,shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
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F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins.True divided muntins are
preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as
historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and
installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit
within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass
that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not
contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
The Subcommittee has authorized staff to provide administrative approval on a case by case
basis. With regard to the subject COA request, due to the property's "Significant"survey rating
as well as the number of proposed replacement windows and visibility,Staff is placing this
application before the DRSC for review and consideration.
Although the optimal preservation treatment for the windows is repair, upon review of the
applicant's submitted cost estimates and the applicant's proposed replacement of aluminum
clad wood windows which meets the Guidelines' standards,Staff recommends approval of the
Certificate of Appropriateness with the following condition:
1. That the proposed aluminum clad wood replacement windows fit the existing
opening, match the original windows in size, design, shape and profile, and that the
proposed low-E glass does not contain tint.
The property owner, Cindy Kundrat, was present to answer questions of the Subcommittee.
Due to the costs associated with the window repair versus their replacement, Ms. Kundrat
requested permission to install eight aluminum clad wood windows.
The Subcommittee recognized the historic significance of the house and also that the windows
appeared to be repairable. Several Subcommittee members had concerns about the proposed
estimate and suggested that there were various details that could be removed, which would
reduce the costs. Additionally, discussion took place regarding the installation of wood storm
windows and the energy benefits. The Subcommittee asked Ms. Kundrat if she would consider
obtaining additional estimates that better reflect the repairs that need to be done. It was
suggested that she contact contractors who specialize in historic window repair. Ms. Kundrat
stated that she would like to proceed with her request to install replacement windows.
Motion made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion failed (0-5: Roberson, Roxworthy, Savel, Segel, Wiedmeyer).
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Following the Subcommittee's decision, Ms. Munro advised Ms. Kundrat of her right to appeal
the Design Review Subcommittee's decision.
398-400 Bent St.—Reconstruct garage
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE NOVEMBER 12, 2013 MEETING DUE TO LACK OF PROPERTY
OWNER REPRESENTATION.
Project Background:
This item was tabled at the October 22, 2013 meeting until revised drawings showing all
dimensions and specifications could be provided by the applicant.
For the Design Review Subcommittee's concept approval,the applicant submitted an
application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct demolish the existing one-story,
two car garage and to replace it with a two-story garage,two car garage. At that time,the
applicant proposed a garage that would have a tower feature. The applicant's drawings also
indicated that the wood siding would match the house's existing wood siding profile and that
the new windows would match the house. (Currently,the house and garage are clad with
synthetic siding.)
At the October 22, 2013 meeting,the Design Review Subcommittee suggested the removal of
the tower as pictured in the original drawing and also recommended that the property owner
evaluate local historic district garages for conceptual design ideas,consult with Staff on
potential ideas,and then re-submit drawings based upon his assessment. The applicant has re-
submitted drawings which reflect the Commission's recommendations.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Demolition
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings, not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler)than the original dwelling in scale, design,
and placement.
C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape, materials,color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights,etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds,Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in
nature.
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B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of
the associated dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the
dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms if the dwelling has a
hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally
designated districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to
alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to
the associated dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible
from the street, secondary buildings may have exterior substitute
siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim
and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages,
wood paneled doors are more appropriate than paneled doors of
vinyl, aluminum, or steel.Wood paneled overhead roll-up doors are
widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car
garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However,one
double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but
windows may not be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be
painted to match the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with
traditionally designed structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed
to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar(no knots) and installed
smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
2. That the proposed windows match the house's original window dimension details,
including the trim work(the aluminum wrapped window trim would need to be
removed to identify the appropriate measurements/dimensions).
3. That the window pattern on the upper north elevations reflect the south elevation's
pattern.
4. That final specifications for the garage overhead and service doors be provided for staff
approval.
5. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
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The property owner, Leobardo Rodriguez,was present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee.
The Subcommittee complimented Mr. Rodriguez on the drawings. The Subcommittee also
discussed the project and expressed concern with the height and specific details regarding
dimensions of the window trim, soffit, corner boards,overhead and service doors. Ms. Munro
stated that the plans had been submitted for conceptual approval and that following the Design
Review Subcommittee's approval, Mr. Rodriguez' contractor will submit detailed plans.
A motion was made by Commissioner Roberson to approve the request as a concept with the
condition that the applicant must re-appear before the Subcommittee upon obtaining Code
review of the height as well as specific details regarding the dimensions of architectural features
of the garage including but not limited to the window trim, soffits, corner boards, overhead and
service doors.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
605 Grace St-Install rear porch hand railings
Project Background:
The applicant submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)to rehabilitate the siding on the
house.The COA for the siding removal was approved that the October 8, 2013 meeting with the
condition that the applicant return to the Subcommittee for approval for the rear porch
balustrade installation.
As per the discussion at the Subcommittee's October meeting,the applicant has found pre-
fabricated porch balustrade details that he would like to propose for installation.Additionally,
due to the deteriorated condition of the existing porch posts,the applicant has also proposed
replacements-in-kind for the post. The applicant has also constructed example windows hoods
as per his approved COA and is seeking the Subcommittee's direction. He will present the
specifications at the meeting.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porch Columns and Railing
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
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C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff is unable to provide a recommendation as the applicant has not submitted the requested
specifications.
The property owner's contractors,Juan Robillard and Roberto Lagares,were present to answer
questions of the Subcommittee. Mr. Robillard inquired about whether the front and rear porch
posts need to be identical and if so,which posts the Subcommittee would prefer that he select.
The Subcommittee advised Mr. Robillard that the rear porch posts should be similar to the front
porch but that historically,front and rear porch posts were not necessarily identical.The
Subcommittee also asked Mr. Robillard to consider stick style balusters for the rear porch
balustrade. They suggested that he work with staff on an appropriate style. Mr. Robillard
agreed to install the stick style balusters. The Subcommittee also proposed the following
changes to the COA request:
Replace rear porch balustrade and posts
• Porch balusters must be stick style and match the attached drawing.
• Porch posts/columns must be similar to the front porch posts/columns.
• Handrail shall not exceed 30". The top rail shall terminate in the square base of the
column, not the turned portion.
• The handrail shall have a 2 x 4 top rail with chamfered edges,3/" cove molding.
• The handrails shall have a 2 x 4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, %" cove molding
and installed 2" above finished floor.
• That the newel posts are no more than 36" in height.
• That the newel posts shall be 6x6 posts with 5" ball caps (must match attached photo).
• 1 x 4 vertical skirt boards with 1" air gap.
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• 1 x 6 side skirt frame board, with 1x4 lower skirt frame boards,containing 1x4 boards
spaced at 1 inch.
• Prime and paint.
Window hood and trim details
• The drip cap should extend over the window molding a minimum of h"to%".
• The drip cap should be rounded over on the bottom.
• The window crown shall be installed to the edge of the casing'A"to%".
• The window hood shall extend past the casing'A"to%".
Motion made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the request as submitted and with the
amendments as stated above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Segel.
The motion passed unanimously.
163 N. Channing St.—Install rear porch
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness(COA)
reconstruct the property's south elevation porch (closest to the rear of the building).The
existing porch is in disrepair and will need full replacement. The applicant has specified his
intent to follow the Design Guideline specifications for the rear porch reconstruction.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood,glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
D. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
E. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
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F. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers,to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the COA as submitted and with the following conditions:
1. That the decking shall be 1x4 Douglas Fir(pressure treated wood or composite also
recommended),tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the house.
2. That newel posts are installed at the top of the stairs and on top of the bottom stair
tread.
3. The handrails shall have a 2x4 bottom rail with chamfered top edge, 2"AFF.The
handrail height shall not exceed 30"AFF.
4. The handrail shall have a 2 x 4 top rail with chamfered edges,3/" cove, 2 x 2 square
balusters, 3" on center.To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than
round corners, it is recommended that the balusters be cut from 4 x 4s.
5. That the newel posts shall be 4x4 posts wrapped lx (or 6x6 is also acceptable)with 5-6"
ball caps.
6. That the newel posts are located at the top of the stairs and on the bottom stair treads.
7. The skirt frame shall be 1x6 with a 1x4 lower board.
8. The skirting board shall be 1x4 and installed behind the frame, 1" spacing with 8"
header.
9. The stair tread shall be constructed in 2x12 lumber or 5/4 x 12" and the treads shall be
bull-nosed with 1" overhang on three sides, min. 10"wide.
10.That the porch shall be primed and painted.
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The property's representatives, Brian Faber and Rich Smith were present to address questions
of the Subcommittee. Mr. Faber described the project and stated that the rear porch needed
replacement due to its deteriorated condition.
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The Subcommittee discussed the project and confirmed that the flooring would be pressure
treated 5/4 decking board that would run perpendicular to the house.The Subcommittee also
recommended that the newel post caps be square hipped caps and due to the location of the
stairs to the driveway, suggested that the bottom posts be located in the center of the bottom
stair tread.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to approve the request as submitted with Staff
recommendations and the changes as outlined above.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy. The motion passed unanimously.
OTHER:
Mr. Dan Miller shared his recent database project which includes porch details identified from
Chairman Stroud's pictorial history books. Details can be sorted by type, architectural style etc.
Mr. Miller also shared his revised pictorial porch guidelines. He asked the Subcommittee to
consider incorporating this into the existing Design Guidelines. The Subcommittee discussed
the Guidelines and agreed with Mr. Miller that this is an important tool for Elgin's historic
district property owners. The Subcommittee expressed their appreciation to Mr. Miller for
drafting the Guidelines and recommended that he continue to work on the details with the goal
that this will be submitted to the Elgin Heritage Commission for inclusion in the Design
Guidelines. Ms. Munro shared Subcommittee and Elgin Heritage Commission Chairman William
Briska's emailed comments that perhaps the Heritage Commission could underwrite some of
the printing costs for the project.
In conjunction with this project, Chairman Stroud proposed that the Subcommittee consider
taking fifteen to twenty minutes at the close of each meeting to view historic photos of Elgin's
historic district properties. In doing so, opportunities to further enhance the porch pictorial
Guidelines Mr. Miller has put together as well as other house detail guidelines would be
increased. The intent of the historical viewing would be to pull sample historical photos for
staff to recommend and applicants to consider for their Certificate of Appropriateness requests.
STAFF COMMENTS:
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Segel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Briska.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 8:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Amy Munro Approved: 02/11/2014
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
Design Review Subcommittee
Of the Elgin Heritage Commission
December 10, 2013
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall) by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Steve Stroud, William Briska, Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Roberson and Pat Segel
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation & Grants Planner
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
Dan Miller
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
rb.
OLD BUSINESS
1. 109 Hill Ave.— Reconstruct Garage (Tabled 11-26-13)
NEW BUSINESS
1. 559 Wellington Ave. — Reconstruct front porch
2. 366 May St. — Reconstruct roof and install siding
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Wiedmeyer recommended an amendment to the minutes regarding clarification
on the 10-12 S. Geneva St. property handrail dimensions and baluster spacing. A motion was
made by Commissioner Savel to approve the November 12, 2013 minutes as amended. Motion
seconded by Commissioner Segel. The motion passed unanimously.
ITEMS TABLED:
109 Hill Ave.— The item was tabled so additional information could be obtained.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy table the item. The motion was seconded by
Committee Member Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
l 559 Wellington Ave. — Reconstruct front porch : The item was tabled so additional information
could be obtained.
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Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer table the item. The motion was seconded by
Committee Member Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
109 Hill Ave.— The item was tabled so additional information could be obtained.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel table the item.The motion was seconded by
Committee Member Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
366 May St—The item was tabled so additional information could be obtained.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy table the item.The motion was seconded by
Committee Member Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
Motion made by Committee Member Wiedmeyer to untable the item.The motion was
seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
109 Hill Ave.— Construct new garage
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED ON NOVEMBER 26,2013 DUE TO LACK OF PROPERTY OWNER REPRESENTATION.
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a
new garage.
The property's garage was demolished in 2012. (This demolition was approved by the Design
Review Subcommittee on December 13, 2011.) Since that time the applicant has submitted
drawings based upon a Home Depot pattern titled, "Cape Cod."
The applicant has proposed the following a garage that will follow a similar footprint to the
demolished garage's. features of the proposed garage include the following: wood
construction,two dormers on the front and rear elevations, carriage style overhead doors,
Queen Anne Style service door, and vinyl windows.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Secondary Buildings:Garages,Sheds, Other Outbuildings
A. Should be smaller in scale than the dwelling; clearly secondary in
nature.
B. Should be simple in design but reflecting the general character of
the associated dwelling. For example, use gable roof forms if the
dwelling has a gable roof, hipped roof forms if the dwelling has a
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hipped roof etc.
C. Should be built at traditional locations for outbuildings in the locally
designated districts.These include at rear lot lines, adjacent to
alleys, and at the back side of a dwelling;
D. Should be compatible in design, shape, materials, and roof shape to
the associated dwelling;
E. Should be of an exterior material to match the associated dwelling
such as clapboard, stucco, or brick. However, if not readily visible
from the street, secondary buildings may have exterior substitute
siding materials such as cement fiber board with appropriate trim
and exposure and cementitious materials.
F. Should be of traditional materials if readily visible. For garages,
wood paneled doors are more appropriate than paneled doors of
vinyl, aluminum, or steel. Wood paneled overhead roll-up doors are
widely available and are appropriate for new garages. For two car
garages the use of two single doors instead of one larger double
door is more appropriate for use in a historic district. However, one
double is unacceptable for garages of less than twenty-two feet.
G. Should have windows in the garage doors are recommended, but
windows may not be appropriate in every case for garage doors.
H. Should have raised panel steel doors are acceptable and should be
' painted to match the house and set off the relief of the panels.
I. Should be in designs that are more appropriate for use with
traditionally designed structures, if prefabricated sheds are proposed
to be used.
J. Should not be constructed of rough sawn cedar with knots.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff would recommend approval if the following conditions are met:
1. That the proposed garage siding material will be clear cedar(no knots) and installed
smooth side out in a profile and exposure to match the house's existing wood siding.
2. That the garage door windows have a linear rather than arched design.
3. That the windows are double-hung 1/1, wood or aluminum clad wood windows to
match the dimensions of the existing double-hung windows on the house.
4. To further complement the house, that the garage design has only one center dormer
on the front and rear elevations.
5. That the proposed windows match the house's original window dimension details.
6. That the brackets not be included on the overhead garage door.
7. That the %2 light Queen Anne Service door has two recessed panels.
8. That all other details meet the Design Review Subcommittee's recommendations.
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The property owner, Richard Hirschberg, was present to answer questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. Hirschberg acknowledged agreement with several staff recommendations;
however, he had concerns about staff recommendations for the windows as well as the center
dormer.
The Subcommittee discussed the design as submitted by Mr. Hirschberg.The drawing
submitted by the applicant reflects its Cape Code style. It was suggested that the two dormer
appearance be modified to a single dropped dormer similar to the original garage dormer. The
Subcommittee recommended that Mr. Hirschberg look at other garages within the historic
district, including Commissioner Briska's. Mr. Hirschberg agreed to modify his submitted
drawing and will-resubmit the drawing for concept approval at a future meeting.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to table further review of the COA until revised
drawings are submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
559 Wellington Ave.—Reconstruct front porch
Project Background:
The property owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA)to
reconstruct the front porch of the house. The existing porch was recently replaced without a
COA permit. As a corrective action, the property owner submitted this request to retain the
existing porch. The property owner has expressed that he was unaware that he needed to
replace the porch if the replacement matched the current porch.Also, he installed the new
porch to address safety concerns due to the former porch's deterioration.
Staff has advised the applicant of the City's Design Guidelines expectations for historic district
property owners. Staff has also advised the applicant that the newly constructed porch does
not meet the Design Guidelines.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
D. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
F. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the facade, if
the porch floor is made of wood.
H. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
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I. should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the
porch's open appearance.
Porch Columns and Railing
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required, use materials to match
the original in dimensions and detailing.
B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters(also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the windowsill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made
of wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters, treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend COA approval to retain the existing porch. However, should the
applicant pursue the reconstruction of the porch, staff would recommend approval with the
following conditions:
1. The wood decking shall be 1 x 4 tongue and groove (Douglas fir, pressure treated or
composite) and be installed perpendicular to the house.
2. That the porch columns are turned posts.
3. The balustrade shall be at a minimum 30" but no more than 36" in height above finished
floor(AFF).
4. The handrail shall have 2 x 4 top and bottom rails with chamfered edges, with %"cove
molding.The top rail shall terminate in the square base of the column, not the turned
portion.The bottom rail shall be installed 2" AFF.
5. That the balusters are 2x2's with %" cove at top, and spaced no more than 3" on center.
To ensure that the balusters have straight corners rather than round. corners, it is
recommended that the balusters be cut from 4x4s.
6. That the newel post shall be a 6x6 post, have a 2x flat top and have a 5"ball cap.
7. That the newel post is attached to the bottom stair tread.
8. The skirt frame shall be 1 x 6 with a 1 x 4 lower board.
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9. The vertical skirting board shall be 1 x 4 and installed behind the frame, 1" spacing with 8"
header.
10. The stair tread shall be constructed in 5/4 or 2 x 12 lumber and the treads shall be bull-
nosed with 1" overhang on two exposed sides, min. 10" wide, and overhang the risers by
1".
11. Wood shall be used for the porch features and architectural details. The porch shall be
primed and painted.
The property's representative, Anthony Simmons was present to address questions of the
Subcommittee. Mr. Simmons advised the Subcommittee that the existing stairs and porch were
installed to address safety concerns.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and identified several concerns with the existing
staircase and porch. Due to the design and building code issues,the Subcommittee advised Mr.
Simmons that he should re-build the porch and stairs to reflect compliance with the Design
Guidelines and with Code. Mr. Simmons agreed that he would submit drawings for approval at
a future meeting date.
Motion made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to table further review of the COA until revised
drawings are submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
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The motion passed unanimously.
366 May St. - Reconstruct roof and install siding
Project Background:
The applicant has submitted a COA to reconstruct the house's roof. Due to fire damage, the
roof was destroyed. The applicant has proposed a roofline to match the original roof.
Additionally, a significant amount of siding was destroyed and will require replacement. The
existing siding is aluminum and the applicant has requested the installation of fiber cement
siding.The building's skirt boards will also require replacement. Staff has consulted with the
applicant. The drawings show lattice skirting; however, staff recommended vertical 1x4 boards
and the applicant has agreed to this.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Roof replacement
A. Should be retained in their original shape and pitch, with original features (such as
cresting, chimneys,finials, cupolas, etc.), and, if possible, with original roof materials.
B. Should be re-roofed with substitute materials such as asphalt or fiberglass shingles if the
original materials are no longer present or if the retention of the original roof material is
not economically feasible.
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(14 C. Should be in appropriate colors such as dark grey, black, brown or \shades of dark red; red
or green may also be appropriate for Craftsman/Bungalow period dwellings for new asphalt
or fiberglass shingled roofs.
D. Should have sawn cedar shingles added only after a complete tear-off of the existing roof
materials is completed.This is necessary to provide adequate ventilation and proper drying
of the roof during wet conditions.
E. Should have soldered metal panels added as the surface material, if the roof is flat. If not
readily visible, rolled composition or EPDM (rolled rubber) roofing materials are
acceptable.
F. Should have proper water-tight flashing at junctions between roofs and walls, around
chimneys, skylights, vent pipes, and in valleys and hips where two planes of a roof meet.
Metal flashing should be used instead of the application of caulking material or bituminous
coating, which can deteriorate due to weathering and allow moisture damage.
G. should not have new dormers, roof decks, balconies or other additions introduced on fronts of
dwellings.These types of additions may be added on the rear or sides of dwellings where not
readily visible.
H. should not have split cedar shakes, in most cases.
Wood Siding(Applicable Guidelines)
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if original. If replacement is necessary, wood
siding and shingles should be replaced with new cement board or shingles to match the
roriginal in size, placement, and design. Wood that has been concealed beneath synthetic
sidings such as aluminum, asbestos, or vinyl should be repaired and the synthetic sidings
removed. Following the removal of synthetic sidings, the original siding should be repaired
to match the original, caulked and painted. If the "ghosts" or outlines of decorative missing
features are revealed, these should generally be replicated and reinstalled. If these features
are not replaced, they should be recorded through photographs or drawings for future
replication.
B. Should be insulated if the addition of the insulation does not result in alterations to the
siding. The creation of plugs or holes for blown-in insulation is not acceptable.
C. Should not be concealed beneath synthetic materials such as vinyl, Masonite, or aluminum,
if original. Original siding should also not be concealed beneath wood-based materials such
as particleboard, gyp board, or pressboard. These materials generally do not possess
textures or designs which closely match original wood siding. However, if more than 50%of
the original siding material is damaged beyond repair, or missing, substitute materials may
be applied if the following conditions are met:
• the existing damaged siding materials are removed prior to the installation of
substitute materials;
• Vinyl material is not permissible. Rather, cement board is and should be smooth
without knots and be accented with trim
• Finger jointed board stock is acceptable, however, natural continuous board
stock is preferable for use as siding.
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Porches (Applicable Guidelines)
A. Should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. Should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
C. Should have steps of the same material as the porch floor (e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood, not concrete or brick).
F. Should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade, if the
porch floor is made of wood.
H. Should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative wood
framed skirting, vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation exist.
I. Should not be removed if original to the dwelling.
J. Should not be enclosed with wood, glass, or other materials which would alter the porch's
open appearance.
Staff Recommendation
Staff recommends approval of the COA as submitted and as per the following conditions:
Roof
12. That the shingles are architectural shingles.
Skirig
1. That the replacement skirting boards shall be vertical 1 x 4 and installed behind the
frame, 1" spacing.
13. If the skirt frame and trim boards are replaced, that the skirt frame shall be 1 x 6 with a 1
x 4 lower board. The skirting shall have an 8" header.
Siding
1. Due to the fire damage, the siding will require compete replacement. Although
ssmooth cedar(no knots) in a profile to match the building's existing wood siding and
installed smooth side out is preferred, cement fiber board is acceptable in a profile to
match the existing clapboard profile.
2. Should new cement board siding be installed, proper trim around windows, corner
boards, base boards, fascia boards and soffits under roof overhangs must be installed.
3. Nail holes must be patched with putty, epoxy preferred.
4. Windows may not be wrapped with aluminum.
5. Siding shall be (sanded, if wood replacement) primed and painted.
All other details to follow applicant's submitted drawings and Code requirements.
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The property's representative, Karolina Boldyrew was present to address questions of the
Subcommittee. Ms. Boldyrew provided an overview of the project and reviewed the submitted
drawings. Windows located on the upper level of the east elevation are being considered for
removal.
The Subcommittee discussed the project and agreed with the raised roof. Discussion took place
regarding the existing windows. The two second story windows should be two double-hung
windows and located side-by-side. Window trim and caps should be installed and the aluminum
wrapping should be removed from the existing windows.The window hood with flat top should
be similar to the front door. Additionally, the rafter tails should be trimmed and the fascia tails
should be square cut rather than plumb cut, quarter round should be added to the corner
board to give it definition.
Due to the amount of detail that was not included on the drawings, the Subcommittee
requested that the applicant return to the January meeting with detailed drawings.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to grant concept approval for the structural roof
component of the project, but to table further review of the COA until revised detailed
drawings are submitted for the remainder of the project.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
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OTHER:
Mr. Dan Miller shared his recent database project which includes porch details identified from
Chairman Stroud's pictorial history books. Details can be sorted by type, architectural style etc.
Mr. Miller also shared his revised pictorial porch guidelines. He asked the Subcommittee to
consider incorporating this into the existing Design Guidelines. The Subcommittee discussed
the Guidelines and agreed with Mr. Miller that this is an important tool for Elgin's historic
district property owners. The Subcommittee expressed their appreciation to Mr. Miller for
drafting the Guidelines and recommended that he continue to work on the details with the goal
that this will be submitted to the Elgin Heritage Commission for inclusion in the Design
Guidelines. Ms. Munro shared Subcommittee and Elgin Heritage Commission Chairman William
Briska's emailed comments that perhaps the Heritage Commission could underwrite some of
the printing costs for the project.
In conjunction with this project, Chairman Stroud proposed that the Subcommittee consider
taking fifteen to twenty minutes at the close of each meeting to view historic photos of Elgin's
historic district properties. In doing so, opportunities to further enhance the porch pictorial
Guidelines Mr. Miller has put together as well as other house detail guidelines would be
increased. The intent of the historical viewing would be to pull sample historical photos for
staff to recommend and applicants to consider for their Certificate of Appropriateness requests.
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STAFF COMMENTS:
CORRESPONDENCE:
None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Savel.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:19 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro Approved: February 11, 2014
Historic Preservation &Grants Planner
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