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Elgin Heritage Commission
Design Review Subcommittee
Tuesday, March 9, 2010
6:00 p.m.
Elgin City Council Chambers
150 Dexter Court
Elgin,IL 60120
Agenda
A. Call Meeting to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Approval of Minutes
1. November 10, 2009
2. November 24, 2009
3. December 8, 2009
D. Old Business
E. New Business
1. 15 N Geneva Street—Addition to building to connect storage room
2. 565 Douglas Avenue—Remove rear door, 2nd floor
3. 160 Kimball—Replace all windows
4. 330-334 Raymond Street—Porch rehabilitation
5. 27 N Porter Street—Remove rear door, 2nd floor
6. 141 Hill Ave—Rebuild back addition
F. Tabled Items
1. 320 N Spring Street—Install garden wall—9.22.09
2. 703 Raymond Street—Restore three porches— 10.13.09
G. Correspondence
1. COA Log
H. Adjournment
e" Minutes
Design Review Subcommittee
of the Elgin Heritage Commission
March 9, 2010
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was called to order at 6:02 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers (Located on the 2nd floor of City Hall)by Chairman Stroud.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Bill Briska, Betsy Couture, Paul Durrenberger, Pat Miller, Dennis Roxworthy, Steve Stroud and
John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Specialist
r PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
15 N Geneva Street—Additional to building to connect storage room
565 Douglas Avenue—Remove rear door, 2nd floor
160 Kimball Street—Replace all windows
330-334 Raymond Street—Porch rehabilitation
27 N Porter Street—Remove rear door, 2nd floor
141 Hill Avenue—Rebuild back addition
OTHERS PRESENT:
Holly Wiedmeyer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Commissioner Couture to approve the minutes of November 10, as amended
(page 5: Roxworthy: "brick mold staying?"); and November 24, and December 8, 2010, as
submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Durrenberger.
eft The motion passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
15 N Geneva Street—Additional to building to connect storage room
The owner has submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for exterior changes to the garage and
an addition to connect the building and the garage. The work to the garage has been completed
without permits. Changes to the garage include removing the overhead door, replacing it with a
wall, door and two vinyl windows, removing the service door and replacing it with bricks and a
glass block window. Doing this work without approval from the city created an unlawful zoning
condition, two occupyable structures on a single lot. In order to continue to use the garage as
office/storage, the contractor is proposing to connect the building and the garage with an
addition.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Garages, Carriage Houses and Outbuildings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Original features should be repaired to match the
original.
B. should not be moved or relocated to another part of the lot, if original to the property.
New Commercial Construction
A. should be at the rear of the building.
B. should be compatible with the original building in scale, proportion and rhythm of
openings, and size.
C. should be built as to result in minimal removal of original walls and details from the rear
of the building. Try to connect the addition with the original building through existing
door or enlarged window openings.
D. should be of exterior materials similar to the existing building.
E. should not be vertical. Rooftop penthouses and additional stories should not be
constructed unless the addition will not be readily visible from the street or other
pedestrian viewpoints. Roof additions should be set back from the main facade.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the COA with the following conditions:
1. The vinyl window is not relocated. The all new windows should be aluminum-clad wood
windows.
2. The new sliding door is aluminum-clad wood.
*****
(contractor): Wajih Alkayed
Wiedmeyeer: Will the bricks match?
Alkayed: Yes, they will match the current addition to the back of the building as close as
possible.
Wiedmeyer: Can you step the new wall back from the existing south wall?
Miller: If you don't do that it will be hard to make it look right. There will be a straight line, not
staggered.
Alkayed: Yes, I can do that.
Miller: Will there be a door on the south side as shown in Exhibit F or like G3?
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Alkayed: No, that was a preliminary sketch (Exhibit F).
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve as amended (to setback south wall one
foot) with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
565 Douglas Avenue—Remove rear door, 2nd floor
The owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove a door
from the rear of the house on the second floor that goes out to a deck. The COA applications
states that a wall will be installed on the interior. The applicant does not state what will happen
with the exterior opening.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Doors and Door Features
A. should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style, glazing (type of
glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is
acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. should not be removed or altered. The original size of the door opening should not be
enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
C. should not be added at locations where they did not originally exist. If needed to meet
safety codes or to enhance the use of a property, doors should be added at the rear or
sides of dwellings where they would not be readily visible.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
The exterior is bricked over.
*****
Steve Babianz (owner): This was a two unit and this was the second exit.
Stroud: Used originally as a boarding house but no original stair,possibly a porch.
Roxworthy: Can it be a window?
Owner: No, are you requiring it to be bricked in?
Staff: No,that was my recommendation based on the fact I didn't think the door opening was
original.
Miller: I think the door opening was original and should be maintained. You should have a
blind door on the outside and wall on the inside.
Owner: I just want to remove the door since it is a safety issue not to have handrails on that
balcony.
Staff: You would make it a non-operable door by removing the hinges and handle and screwing
the door to the frame.
Wiedmeyer: You could replace the door with a wood slab door before making it inoperable.
That would eliminate the glass portion from exposing the inside of the wall.
Owner: The door is so narrow, I don't want to special order another door just to screw it shut.
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Staff: The existing glass would need to be opaque. Either black paint or replace the glass unit
with opaque glass.
Miller: The design of the door is okay(2 panels over one glass lite). You could put painted
plywood behind the glass.
Owner: I'll paint it black.
Stroud: Maybe you could check the feasibility of switching out the etched glass to plain glass
before painting it.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve as amended (door stays as inoperable
with blacked out glass).
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
160 Kimball Street—Replace all windows
The contractor has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace all
windows on the building. In August, 2009, the DRSC approved the replacement of 15 windows
damaged by the fire and the fire department. The contractor has exceeded the approved scope of
work and replaced all the windows. The new windows are Pella,Architect Series, aluminum-
clad wood windows. Eleven new windows have false muntins between the glass panes.
The contractor is also seeking to replace the four rear doors to the apartments due to vandalism.
These are currently six panel steel doors that were installed without a COA a few years ago.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Windows
A. which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with
their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades where
readily visible.
C. should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the recommended
replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and design. Windows clad in
aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement windows for use throughout
the structure. Factors to be considered in determining whether the severity of deterioration of
windows requires replacement shall include but not be limited to the following factors:
damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due
to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a
particular window may be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost
to repair the windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of
appropriate replacement windows.
D. which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the
original. If repair is not feasible,replacement should be with new windows to match the
original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows are
an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their size,
shape and profile match the original windows.
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E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are preferred
over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as historic windows.
New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and installed on both sides of the
glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within the
window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass that will
improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not contain a tint
should be used.
Doors and Door Features
A. should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style, glazing (type of glass
and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is acceptable
materials for use in replacement doors.
B. should be constructed of solid wood panels, such as the four-panel Homestead or Italianate
design may be used on the front if appropriate to the style of the house.
C. should involve glazing in clear etched or beveled glass as appropriate to the style of the
house, if applicable.
D. should only involve artificial materials such as "lexan" or other acrylic based materials, if
applicable.
E. should not be removed or altered. The original size of the door opening should not be
'" enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
F. should not be replaced by doors with new designs, especially those at the front entrance or at
side entrances which are readily visible from the street.
G. should not be added at locations where they did not originally exist. If needed to meet safety
codes or to enhance the use of a property, doors should be added at the rear or sides of
dwellings where they would not be readily visible.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff does not recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
Staff would recommend approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following
conditions:
1. Eleven windows with three over one divided lites shall be true divided lites or
simulated divided lites. SDL are on the outside, inside AND between the glass.
2. Rear doors have four panels,but may be steel.
*****
John Brust(Contractor):
Wiedmeyer: I drove by yesterday and it didn't match staff's description.
Brust: I have started adding the muntins Jennifer asked for already.
Miller: Are you making custom pieces?
Brust: Yes, I am custom milling the wood and gluing them on to the glass.
Miller: The basement windows still have the wire mesh on them. Weren't you going to take
,, that off?
Brust: No, I have repaired them exactly as required. The wire mesh remains for security.
Wiedmeyer: So it's the removal of all the windows that was done without a permit?
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Staff: Yes, last fall he received approval only for the windows that had been boarded over from 4
fire damage.
Couture: What about the ones that had been boarded up before the fire?
Staff: Since he wasn't changing those openings, he wasn't required to put new windows in.
Owner: The building deteriorated between the time I got approval from the DRSC and work
started. Vandals did more damage than the fire department.
Miller: He was only suppose to replace 15 windows?
Staff: Yes, 15 windows were damaged from the fire and/or the fire department.
Stroud: I wish you would do more to the outside of the building like the front entry and
removing the wire mesh.
Wiedmeyer: Will these glued on muntins be exterior and interior?
Brust: Yes.
Miller: And the rear doors will be 4 panel?
Staff: yes, that is under my recommendations.
Motion made by Commissioner Briska to approve as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed 6-0-1.
330-334 Raymond Street—Porch rehabilitation
The contractor has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace the
porches. Work started under the previous owner without a permit. The existing porches are in
various states of deterioration. Work to be completed includes new structural supports, decking,
stairs, newel posts and handrails. The contractor has submitted drawings (Exhibit Gl-G3). Staff
has revised the drawings to be appropriate for the buildings (Exhibit G5).
Additionally, the retaining wall on the property needs replacement. The contractor is proposing
a concrete wall (Exhibit G4).
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Porches
A. should be maintained in their original design with original materials and detailing.
B. should be repaired or replaced to match the original in design, materials, scale, and
placement.
C. should have steps of the same material as the porch floor(e.g. porches with wood floors
should also have steps made of wood,not concrete or brick).
D. should have wood tongue and groove flooring running perpendicular to the façade, if the
porch floor is made of wood.
E. should be filled in as traditional for the type and style of the house, or with decorative
wood framed skirting,vertical slats, or lattice panels, if open areas in the foundation
exist.
Porch Columns and Railings
A. should be preserved and maintained. Where repair is required,use materials to match the
original in dimensions and detailing. 4111)
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B. should be rebuilt in historic designs if the original columns and railings have been
removed or replaced.
C. should have new balusters for the railing, if required. Porch balusters (also called
spindles) should be appropriate for the building's style and period. The height of the
railing should be in line with the window sill level, if present, and no greater than 30
inches in height.
Porch Staircases and Steps
A. should be retained in their original location and configuration, if original to the property.
Wood and concrete steps should be repaired with materials to match the original.
B. should be replaced with wood rather than brick or concrete, if the porch floor is made of
wood.
C. should have their tread constructed in either 5/4x12 or 2x12 lumber. The ends of the
treads should be bull-nosed and overhang the riser by no less than 1 inch.
D. should have newel posts and balusters,treads and risers, to match original porch
construction.
Retaining Walls
A. should be preserved and maintained, if original to the dwelling(or built before 1945).
B. should be of poured concrete (not concrete blocks) or in stone designs such as cut stone,
random rubble, coursed rubble, or cobblestones. Retaining walls of brick are less
appropriate but may be constructed. If constructed of artificial or cultured stone, textures,
colors and random designs should replicate natural stone. If located in front yards,the
walls should be constructed using up to two courses and an additional cap course,not to
exceed twenty inches in height.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
The handrails, spindles, newel posts, stairs, and decking are modified to match Exhibit G5.
*****
Tim Drumm from JV Henik Inc (Structural Engineer):
Miller: Will you be changing the roof?
Drumm: No change.
Miller: (to staff) The skirt frame is 1x6 and the boards are 1x4 right?
Staff: yes, I drew the sketch free hand so it does not appear completely to scale, but the text
specifies the sizes.
Drumm: Can I use lattice?
Wiedmeyer: No, lx4's is the only appropriate material in this case. The spindles should have
square edges as well. And can staff find a better cap than pyramidal?
Staff: Yes, I'll find something else. I was just trying to keep it simple.
Miller: Some of the framing details appear off.
Staff: I'll send Mr. Drumm a typical structural detail to ensure the post,rim joist and column
line up.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve as amended with staff recommendations.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture.
e"' The motion passed unanimously.
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27 N Porter Street—Remove rear door,2' floor
The owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove a door
from the rear of the house on the second floor that goes out to a deck. The opening will be
replaced with a window. The rest of the opening will be re-clad to match the adjacent substrate.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Doors and Door Features
A. should be replaced with new doors appropriate for the style and period of the dwelling.
Replacement doors should be similar in design to the original in style, glazing (type of
glass and area) and lights (pane configuration). Wood or solid core fiberglass is
acceptable materials for use in replacement doors.
B. should not be removed or altered. The original size of the door opening should not be
enlarged, reduced, or shortened in height.
C. should not be added at locations where they did not originally exist. If needed to meet
safety codes or to enhance the use of a property, doors should be added at the rear or
sides of dwellings where they would not be readily visible.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness with the following conditions:
The new clapboards are staggered into the adjacent siding to blend the new with the old.
*****
Scott Savel (Contractor):
Miller: Are you replacing the door with a window?
Savel: yes
Wiedmeyer: Will the trim match the other windows?
Savel: yes, it will match the one next to it.
Miller: Can you move the window to the south so that the trim doesn't run into the bed molding?
Savel: Nope, there is a wall there.
Miller: Can you just remove the door:
Savel: The owner would like some natural light.
Miller: Can the window be on the side of the dormer?
Savel: That's more expensive. I have the opening od the door. It's on the rear of the house. Not
visible from any street.
Miller: This could be a good chance to correct poor design though.
Savel: The whole back of the house is poor design.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendation.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
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141 Hill Avenue—Rebuild back addition
The owner has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the rear
addition and rebuild it exactly to match. The existing one floor addition does not have a proper
foundation. Additionally, the deck on the roof was not installed properly and severe damage has
occurred to the structure as a result. The soffit and fascia are damaged and water is getting in
behind the siding, then weeping out from behind the clapboards. The roof is holding enough
moisture to grow vegetation. The interior plaster is detaching from the walls and ceiling. The
owner wishes to completely remove the addition and rebuild it from the ground up. The
windows and any other exterior elements that are salvageable will be reused. A new door will be
installed to match the existing. The only change to the exterior will be relocating the east
window slightly to the south to accommodate the original built-in cabinets on the interior.
Rebuilding the addition will necessitate the reconfiguration of the basement hatch doors directly
to the south. The owner will rebuild the stairs and walls down to the basement in concrete. A
new metal hatch door will be installed.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications:
Additions
A. should be located at the rear of dwellings,not on the front or readily visible areas of the
sides of dwellings.
B. should be secondary(smaller and simpler) than the original dwelling in scale, design, and
placement.
C. should be of a compatible design in keeping with the original dwelling's design, roof
shape,materials, color, and location of window, door, and cornice heights, etc.
D. should impact the exterior walls of the original dwelling as minimally as possible. When
building additions use existing door and window openings for connecting the addition to
the dwelling.
E. should be constructed to avoid extensive removal or loss of historic materials and to not
damage or destroy significant original architectural features.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted.
David and Jennifer Williams (owner):
Williams: I don't anticipate that I will have to rebuild the entire addition but I wanted to get
approval for a worst case scenario. We will begin interior demolition and then investigate how
far the rot has progressed. The roof was holding so much moisture trees were growing out of the
compost stuck in the decking last year. There is mold and lichen growing on the roof as well.
The plaster inside has been severely damaged.
Wiedmeyer: what is the addition on now?
Williams: We believe the bottom sill plate rest on dirt. And overtime, layers have been added to
the driveway that puts the sill plate approximately 6"below grade. You can see in the pictures
�.. how the siding goes below the asphalt.
Miller: Is this the room with the wainscot? What are you going to salvage?
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Williams: We'll salvage everything we can, clapboards, trim, fascia, soffits, and windows. We
do want a new door. And the east window will be relocated to accommodate the butler's pantry.
But right now we hope to prop the room up, dig a proper foundation,put the room back down
and then sister the roof rafters as required.
Roxworthy: Are you going to put the overhang back?
Williams: Yes, we like having a place to stand out of the weather while we fumble for our keys.
Wiedmeyer: What about the railings and the door out to the deck?
Williams: Over the weekend we removed the railings and deck floor to get a better look at the
roof from there. There was an ice dam right at the edge that has been contributing to the leak
inside. We will replace those railings and deck in the future. The door will be closed off until
we have railings,per code.
Motion made by Commissioner Roxworthy to approve as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture.
The motion passed unanimously.
CORRESPONDENCE:
COA Log
No discussion.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Durrenberger.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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ennifer Fritz-Williams Approved:
Historic Preservation Specialist D j l,Z I 2o/D
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Motion made by Commissioner Durrenberger to approve COA as amended;proposed shed to be
install with a time limitation of one year from date of COA issuance.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Roxworthy.
The motion passed unanimously.
CORRESPONDENCE:
COA Log
No discussion.
Complaint Log
No discussion.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Commissioner Durrenburger.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:27 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy A. en Approved:
Design Review Subcommittee Secretary /7/_. ���,�O/0