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Elgin Heritage Commission
November 3, 2015
Minutes
A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:34 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers by Chairman John Wiedmeyer.
1. Members Present: Elizabeth Femal, George Rowe, Judith Van Dusen, Scott Savel,
Judith Rivera, Tom Krebsbach, Rebecca Hunter and John
Wiedmeyer
2. Members Absent: Steve Thoren
3. Others Present: Richard Popko
4. City Staff Present: Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation Planner; Sarosh Saher,
Senior Planner
A motion was made by Commissioner Rivera to move 363 Wellington appeal review before
approval of minutes. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Femal. The motion passed 8‐0.
B. New Business
1. Appeals: 363 Wellington Avenue
It was stated by Commissioner Savel that it would set a bad precedent if the
Commission allowed the applicant to maintain his vinyl siding and vinyl windows as the
applicant did not receive a permit for the work. Commissioner Savel also mentioned
that if the applicant took out a permit for the work completed on the exterior, they
would have been notified that they were in a historic district and were not permitted to
use inappropriate materials such as vinyl. The applicant was concerned that given the
situation he won’t be able to place a renter in the home until the exterior is corrected.
Commissioner Femal reassured him that the Commission does not review interiors and
that the applicant can have a renter live there while the work on the exterior is
completed. The applicant understood that he made a mistake and will do what it takes
to correct the situation so that his work meets the guidelines. Mr. Saher stated that the
applicant may be in the Rivers Edge Redevelopment zone and if so, he may qualify for
tax credits as the property will be used as a rental property. The applicant seemed
interested in any grants that would be available to restore the building.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to uphold the decision of the Design Review
Subcommittee. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter. The motion passed
unanimously.
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C. Approval of Minutes:
1. A motion was made by Commissioner Femal to approve the October 6, 2015 minutes
with the following amendments: Krebsbach abstained from voting on the plaque
application for 420 Douglas; and the date in the header changed to read October 6,
2015. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed 8‐0.
D. Recognize Persons Present: the Commission recognized Robert Popko
E. Plaque applications:
1. 612 Raymond Street ‐ The plaque nomination received the following average score:
Architectural Significance: 3. Since the application for the H. Hubbard House built in
1876 failed to meet the 6 points in Architectural Significance it was deemed ineligible
for a plaque award.
2. 162 College Street – The plaque nomination received the following average scores:
Historic Significance: 9.0; Architectural Significance: 9.0; Current Maintenance: 9.25.
A motion was made by Commissioner Rivera to approve awarding the plaque for the
property with the inscription that would read 1861, P. Jones (Abbreviated for Patrick
Jones).
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter.
The motion passed 8‐0.
3. 844 Brook Street – The item was removed until there is significant work completed on
the porch of the home (2015 second round grant recipient). A motion was made by
Commissioner Rowe to remove the nomination for the H. & I. James house built in 1908
until future work on porch is completed in 2016.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter
The motion passed 7‐0‐1 (Savel abstained).
F. Old Business
1. Reports from Neighborhood Groups on Heritage Related Activities
i. Northeast Neighborhood Association (NENA) will be hosting a “Homes for the
Holidays House Tour,” showcasing eight homes in Elgin’s Historic Northeast
Neighborhood to be held on December 5, 2015 from 12:00PM – 5:00PM. More
information can be found at www.NENAofELgin.org.
ii. Elgin Area Historical Society Annual Benefit will be hosted on Saturday, November
7th from 6:00PM – 10:00PM at the Elgin Country Club. Commissioner Rowe stated
that the tickets have been sold out as of October 31, 2015.
2. December Plaque Awards
i. The awards ceremony will be held on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 from 7:00PM –
9:00PM at the Elgin History Museum. The event will including awarding six plaques
recipients, a lecture on Elgin’s new Bungalow Thematic Historic District as well as
awarding two plaque recipients for their inclusion into the Bungalow Thematic
Historic District.
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3. Mayor’s Initiative Ideas
i. Directional Signage Update
To be discussed at the January 5, 2016 Heritage Commission meeting.
4. Alternative Tour Methods (to replace “Guide by Cell”)
i. Web Based App
To be discussed at the January 5, 2016 Heritage Commission meeting.
ii. Cancellation of Guide By Cell – next steps for current signs
To be discussed at the January 5, 2016 Heritage Commission meeting.
G. New Business
1. Elgin Heritage Commission Budget Update
Ms. Sundquist provided the Commission with its current budget status. She reviewed
upcoming anticipated expenses. The plaque painting and website cost are the only
expected and remaining expenses of the year. In keeping with this, Commissioner Rowe
requested the Commission’s consideration for donating the remainder of the funding to
the Elgin Area Historical Society for the purchase of computer equipment. Staff stated
that the Downtown Neighborhood Association –Design Committee is also requesting
funds for production of a Downtown Elgin Commercial District Historical Walking Tour
booklet. The Commission stated their concerns of the funding request provided by the
Downtown Neighborhood Association –Design Committee as there were no cost
estimates provided. Commissioner Femal stated that she would like to see not only a
cost estimate but a preliminary booklet to show what information would be included.
The Commission agreed that they will partially fund seed money for the Downtown
Neighborhood Association – Design Committee of $500.00. When cost estimates and a
preliminary booklet are provided, the Commission will review the proposal for
additional funds.
A motion was made by Commissioner Van Dusen to fund $500.00 to the Downtown
Neighborhood Association – Design Review Subcommittee and the remaining funds to be
donated to the Elgin Area Historical Society for the purchase of equipment.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Rivera.
The motion passed unanimously.
Staff also stated that the website will cost a fee of $236.00 per year. Commissioner
Femal mentioned that this amount is more cost effective than the Guide‐By‐Cell’s yearly
cost.
A motion was made by Commissioner Rowe to allow staff to pay $236.00 for the year
subscription to the website for 2016.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter.
The motion passed unanimously.
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2. Recommendation – Historic Rehabilitation Grant Program
The Commission asked on the status of grants to be funded next year. Staff stated that
given the current situation with the State budget, Elgin has not been released their
Riverboat funds which are used for all capital improvement projects including the
Historic Rehabilitation Grant program. In light of the funds being released from the
State, the Commission agreed to send a recommendation to the Elgin City Council that
the 50/50 and 75/25 Historic Architectural Rehabilitation Grant Programs be considered
to continue to receive funding in the 2016 fiscal year. Commissioner Savel stated that
this was a great program that had a huge impact on properties within historic districts
and landmarks.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to recommend to the City Council that
funding the grants in 2016 be given strong consideration.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Femal and passed unanimously.
3. Letter of Support for the Elgin History Museum’s IMLS grant application
Ms. Sundquist and Commissioner Rowe provided a background for the letter of support
requested by the Elgin History Museum. The Elgin History Museum is applying for a
grant to the 2015 Institute of Museums and Library Services Museums for America
program to digitize the Gylleck Photograph Collection consisting of 4,094 Elgin images.
The images include Elgin at a variety of different time periods, Elgin homes and
businesses, schools, railroads and a large number of photos of the Elgin Road Race.
Commissioner Femal stated that this would be a wonderful program and resource for
Elgin.
A motion was made by Commissioner Rivera to provide a letter of support to the Elgin
History Museum for their grant application.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed unanimously.
4. DNA – Downtown Elgin Commercial District Historical Walking Tour booklet – funding
request
The Commission stated that they will fund $500 seed money to begin the project
discussed in the Elgin Heritage Commission Budget update discussion (Agenda Item G1).
5. Appeals ‐ 1013 Douglas Avenue
At the hearing, the applicant stated that he received a couple cost estimates to restore
the wrought iron columns. The applicant specified that the cost estimates were close to
$10,000. Commissioner Van Dusen stated that $10,000 is a lot of money for restoration
of the columns. Commissioner Savel noted that the original materials are unique and
what defines it in the neighborhood with this unusual architectural element, however,
he agreed the cost for restoration is high. Chairman Wiedmeyer suggested that the
owner salvages the iron work and place it in his rear yard as a decorative garden arbor.
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It was also suggested that if the applicant did not want to keep the iron work, that they
donate it to a resale store.
A motion was made by Commissioner Rowe to uphold the decision of the Design Review
Subcommittee. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Femal. The motion failed 7‐1
(aye – Savel).
H. Other Business
1. Commissioner Rowe stated that he toured the Wing Mansion on October 17, 2015. He
wanted to thank Commissioner Thoren for offering the tour and for his hospitality.
Chairman Wiedmeyer stated that he also received a personal tour of the Wing Mansion
by Commissioner Thoren and mentioned that Commissioner Thoren welcomes anyone
on the Commission who would like to receive a tour of the home to contact him.
I. Adjournment
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to adjourn the meeting. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Rivera and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at
8:58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation Planner
Community Development Department
Approved: 1/5/2016