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Elgin Heritage Commission
August 6, 2013
Approved 10-1-13
A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:03 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska.
1. Members Present: William Briska, Elizabeth Femal,Tom Krebsbach,Judith Rivera,
Scott Savel,Judy Van Dusen, and John Wiedmeyer
2. Members Absent: Rebecca Hunter and James Halik
3. Others Present: None
4. City Staff Present: Sarosh Saher, Senior Planner
Amy Munro, Historic Preservation and Grants Planner
B. Approval of Minutes:
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the July 2, 2013 minutes.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Femal. The motion passed 7-0.
C. Recognize Persons Present: Dan Miller
Chairman Briska welcomed and introduced the Commission's new member,Judith Van
Dusen. Chairman Briska lauded Commissioner Van Dusen's genealogical and archival
assistance at the Elgin Area Historical Society Museum.
D. Plaque Applications:
1. 711 Brook St. (Tabled July 2, 2013)
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to untable the item. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Wiemeyer. The motion passed 7-0.
The applicant revised their Statement of Significance to include a more detailed
architectural description regarding the house's Queen Anne architectural style.
Since the plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical
significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each
of the three categories.
Architectural Significance: 7.6; Historical Significance: 7; Current Maintenance:8.58
Because the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it
was eligible to be awarded a plaque.
A motion was made by Commissioner Krebsbach to award a plaque with the following
inscription: 1891, Karl & Louise Schmidt. Motion seconded by Commissioner Savel. The
motion passed 6-0 with one abstention (Van Dusen).
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2. 713 N. Grove Ave.
The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance
and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the
three categories.
Architectural Significance: 8.16; Historical Significance: 6.3; Current Maintenance: 9.08
Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it
was eligible to be awarded a plaque.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to award a plaque with the following
inscription: 1927, Carl & Mathilda Rauschert. Motion seconded by Commissioner Savel.
The motion passed 6-0 with one abstention (Van Dusen).
3. 851 Brook
The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance
and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the
three categories.
Architectural Significance: 4.42; Historical Significance: --; Current Maintenance: --
Because the application must receive a minimum of 6 points in each category to be
eligible for a plaque award, the application was deemed ineligible and denied.The
house is clad with aluminum siding over stucco. Should the siding be removed, the
Commission recommended that the applicant re-submit the application.
4. 372 Congdon
The Commission reviewed the application and requested that additional historical
information be provided in the application's Statement of Significance before
conducting further review of the application.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to table review of the plaque application.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Krebsbach. The motion passed 7-0.
5. 841 Bellevue
The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance
and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the
three categories.
Architectural Significance: 7.85; Historical Significance: 7; Current Maintenance: 7.64
Because the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it
was eligible to be awarded a plaque.
A motion was made by Commissioner Femal to award a plaque with the following
inscription: 1928, Louis& Marie Joerns. Motion seconded by Commissioner Savel. The
motion passed 7-0.
6. 1183 Duncan
The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance
and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the
three categories.
Architectural Significance: 8; Historical Significance: 7; Current Maintenance: 7
Because the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it
was eligible to be awarded a plaque.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to award a plaque with the following
inscription: 1913, Walter& Martha Taylor. Motion seconded by Commissioner Savel. The
motion passed 7-0.
7. 111 N. Porter
The Commission reviewed the application and requested that additional architectural
information be provided in the application's Statement of Significance before
conducting further review of the application.
A motion was made by Commissioner Savel to table review of the plaque application.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Fremal. The motion passed 7-0.
E. Old Business
1. Cell Phone Tour Website Status Update
Ms. Munro updated the Commission on the website.The City's website Multimedia
Production Specialist is working with the graphic designer. A concept webpage will be
available in the near future.
2. NHS and the Elgin Bungalow Initiative Update
Chairman Briska updated the Commission on the Initiative. A Request for Proposals has
been sent to consultants. Proposals are due in August. The proposals will reflect the
development of a Bungalow field guide and recommendations for a potential citywide
thematic historic district.
3. DRSC Appointment Resolutions: Appointments from four members to three to five
members, term limits for DRSC, and at-large member position creation
Ms. Munro announced that she is working on this resolution.
4. 2013 Historic Rehabilitation Grant Update
a. Homeowner Reimbursement Policy Discussion
Staff updated the Commission on the 2013 grant applications. The grants were placed
on the July 24, 2013 Committee of the Whole Agenda. However,the item was tabled
due to a citizen request that the Council consider amending the grant program's
reimbursement policy to include reimbursement for homeowners who serve as their
own contractors. Due to staff's request to allow additional time to assess the benefits
of amending the existing policy and in addition to the Council's request for the Elgin
Heritage Commission to provide a recommendation on this matter,the Council tabled
the item.
Discussion took place regarding the City's Historic Architectural Rehabilitation Grant
Program Guidelines for Homeowner Reimbursement.The current guidelines require
that applicants submit a minimum of two estimates from which, the lowest estimate will
be funded 50%or 75%by the City. In the event that the respective property owner
performs any element of the project on their own,the property owner is reimbursed for
material costs only.
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Mr. Dan Miller presented his request to revise the City's policy. As a past grant recipient
and longtime Elgin historic district resident, he expressed concerns with the current
policy. Mr. Miller stated that the homeowner reimbursement policy was initially
launched to address the Council's concern with the perception of wrongdoing. He
disagreed with this perception and highlighted the City's current policy for the submittal
of two estimates by a homeowner in relation to his request to see a homeowner
reimbursed for labor. He suggested that the City should award the homeowner a grant
based upon the lowest amount and that the homeowner should then be able to apply
this amount to labor and materials. It should not matter to the City whether a
homeowner elects to hire a contractor or do all or a portion of the work themself. He
emphasized that the work would still have to be done within the grant's 18-month
timeframe and follow the City's Design Guideline and Code requirements.
Chairman Briska requested staff to present their recommendation to the Council.
Mr. Saher shared staff's position on the matter. He reiterated the homeowner's
eligibility to participate in the program even if performing the work on his or her own
and the program's 50%or 75% reimbursement of the material costs for approved work.
With regard to the proposed amendment, and the belief that the idea had good merit,
staff evaluated impact that such a change would have to the City. Based upon their
review of the proposal, the staff recommendation is that the existing policy should not
be amended due to the following concerns:
1. The program will cost the city more money. In addition to the cost of materials,
labor costs will now be added.
2. The proposal will undermine the City's bidding process and the effort obtain the
lowest responsive bid. Given the current requirements of applicants to obtain a
minimum of two bids, homeowners have an incentive to obtain the best and lowest
bid. A homeowner's self-performance intent would compromise the bidding
process due to the fact that the homeowner would be seeking to receive funding
from the City rather than making a payment to the City. Any incentive to receive the
lowest bid would be removed as the homeowner's bid search would result in higher
or less competitive bids for the labor.
3. Historic rehabilitation often adds another layer of complexity to construction
projects.The proposed policy may increase the numbers of homeowner to self-
perform on grant work who may not have the skills to complete a project in a
manner that results in a quality historic preservation project and/or within the
expected 18-month project timeframe. Additionally,from an administrative
perspective, inexperienced homeowners who self-perform will require additional
staff time to assure that the Design Guidelines are being met and that the Code
requirements are satisfied.
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4. From a public policy standpoint, staff does not believe that the City should pay a
homeowner for making improvements to their home projects.The spirit of the
program is to enhance a homeowner's rehabilitation efforts, not to provide
additional income. For example, a property owner who goes to Home Depot should
not be paid out for taking the time to do a project that he or she was planning to do.
The Commission discussed the benefits of the proposed homeowner reimbursement policy
amendment as well as the concerns expressed by staff. The Commission also discussed the
potential fraud that could result from this amendment as well as the fraud that can occur as
per the existing program guidelines.The Commissioners discussed the need for a check and
balance system. Under the proposed amendment, Mr. Saher suggested that potentially a
third party verification would be required.This would cost the city additional money.
Commissioners discussed the spirit of the program, as well as details that may need to be
specifically outlined in the program guidelines. Of particular issue is the contractor who may
hire a subcontractor who is the homeowner to perform the work on a project. In this
instance,the homeowner is then being paid for labor; however, several commissioners
raised the issue that the City should not be able to dictate the homeowner's contractor
selection.The Commission suggested that the Legal Department provide a finding as to the
legal requirements.
Mr. Miller, upon hearing the Commission's discussion as well as Staff's recommendation,
expressed his willingness to relinquish the idea; however, he still believes that homeowners
should be reimbursed.
Several members expressed concern about contractor and subcontractor applicants who
are homeowners. Given the number of questions and issues associated with the proposed
amendment,the Commissioners recommended that the existing policy remain in place.
Also, it was highlighted that the current pool of applicants have been waiting and need to
get their projects started. However, the Commission also noted the need for the existing
policy to be reviewed by the Legal Department and directed staff to pursue a legal opinion
regarding the current reimbursement policy and the potential language that may need to be
outlined in the grant program's guidelines to avoid fraud or misinterpretation with regard to
the homeowner and contractor specifications.
A motion was made by Commissioner Krebsbach to recommend to the City Council that the
homeowner reimbursement policy not be amended and to direct staff to seek clarification
from the Legal Department regarding the existing policy to address any details that may
require additional specificity to avoid fraudulent activity. Motion seconded by Commissioner
Fremal. The motion passed 7-0.
F. New Business
1. Heritage Commission Budget Increase Request for Historic Interpretive Signage
Installation
Chairman Briska discussed the need for funding for interpretive signage installation
throughout the City's historic districts. Discussion took place regarding potential signage
installation sites.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Femal to support Chairman Briska's request to the
City for additional funding to be added to the Commission's budget to finance the
signage installation. Motion seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer. The motion passed
7-0.
G. Staff Announcements,Other Business:
None.
H. Adjournment
A motion made by Commissioner Savel to adjourn the meeting. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Krebsbach and passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Munro
Historic Preservation and Grants Planner