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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010 Heritage Commission bait ' City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission January 5, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Betsy Couture, Evelyn Chapman, William Ristow, Rebecca Hunter, Paul Durrenberger and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Kathy Skaggs and James Halik 3. Others Present: Kathy Moore, Pat Hill, Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Specialist B. Approval of Minutes: Minutes of the November meeting were not distributed to the commission and will be in next month's packet. C. Plaque Applications: After a general discussion of all the applications from the SWAN neighborhood, a consensus was reached that the applications lacked the architectural statement, historical documentation of the neighborhood, and a list of alterations. 1. The following houses received the minimum score of 6 in all three required categories and will receive a plaque pending submission of the missing items. • 448 Oak Street • 531 Morgan Street • 454 Orange Street • 408 Orange Street • 623 Orange Street • 334 Orange Street • 310 Morgan Street • 365 Elm Street • 325 Ryerson Avenue • 387 Ryerson Avenue • 464 S State Street A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque to these homes with the appropriate inscriptions. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously 2. 503 Hendee Street: Discussion was held regarding the siding being original or substitute and other alterations. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to table this application until the commission members could further review the application. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously 3. 352 Moseley Street and 506 Lindberg Court: A discussion was held regarding the severe /� alterations to these properties. t A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the appropriate inscriptions for these properties. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and failed unanimously. Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 January 5, 2010 4. 22 S DuBois Avenue: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, 411) historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 7.2 Historical Significance: 7.5 Current Maintenance: 7.8 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Durrenberger to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1901 W. Fischer. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously 5. 16 S DuBois Avenue: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 7.8 Historical Significance: 7.2 Current Maintenance: 7.8 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1901 J. Kampman. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously 411) B. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: Jerry Turnquist needs $200 more,then he will submit application to the state. 2. Historic District Signs: Chairman Briska asked staff if there was a timeline for the replacement of the street signs. The federal law gives municipalities until January 2012 to meet the reflectivity requirements. There is nothing in the budget for 2010. However, after suggesting that the existing HD street signs be auctioned off to make money for new sign toppers, city staff liked the idea. 3. Historic Marker Survey: Commissioner Halik was not present. 4. Preservation Month Planning Committee: i. Mayor's Awards Banquet: The subcommittee has ruled out charging for dinner as most of the invitees are award recipients. A dessert bar only would run at least $500 if we bought all the supplies and food ourselves at Costco. Catering the event was ruled out as too expensive. Commissioner Couture will contact JoEllen Doscher to see if she would be interested in assisting the commission. ii. Invitations: To save money they will be postcards only. Staff will contact Laura Jacobsen for a quote but may use Commissioner Ristow's printer. iii. Posters: Posters will be free, 1 1x17. Dave Metzger will design and print for us. iv. Brochure: Want to keep the cost down. Limit color, 1 lx17 tri-fold, approx. 300. Dave Metzger will design for us. ,► Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 January 5,2010 v. Events: Awards Dinner May 6,ABODE Bowling, GPA Golf, Great Unveiling May 1, Sustainable Home and Garden Expo May 8, Observatory Tour,Museum day at EAHS. 5. Grant Program Contest: Staff presented letter to be mailed to top 15 projects. Minor grammatical revisions. Owners have until January 29 to submit pictures. 6. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: Highway clean-up crew was reported to the police. Funny story all resolved peacefully. v. ARCHES: vi. Historical Society: vii. DNA: C. New Business. 1. 175th Anniversary: Anniversary of the settlement could confuse some people. Staff will give ideas to Cherie. 2. 2010 Budget: Budget has been set at$5000. D. Other Business. 1. Grant Subcommittee: Chairman Briska would like to meet before February to review scoring criteria, warranties, definitions of maintenance, repair, rehab and restoration, etc. Meeting scheduled for January 26 at 1 pm. Staff will invite Sarosh as well. E. Correspondence.None. F. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Ristow to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. 2. The meeting was adjourned at 8:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, 'fer Fritz-Wi s istoric Preservation Specialist City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, February 2, 2010 Immediately following Public Hearing City Council Chambers 2" Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin, IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. *November 3, 2010 2. *January 5, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *380 Congdon Avenue D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. Survey of Existing Historic Markers 3. Preservation Month Planning (Subcommittee meeting at 6pm) 4. Grant Program Contest Update 5. Tabled House Plaque Application—503 Hendee Street 6. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii. EAHS E. New Business F. Other Business G. Correspondence H. Adjournment City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission eft. February 2, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:24 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Betsy Couture, William Ristow, Rebecca Hunter,James Halik, Kathy Skaggs, and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Paul Durrenberger and Evelyn Chapman 3. Others Present: Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Specialist B. Approval of Minutes: Minutes of the November 3, 2009 and January 5, 2010 meetings were submitted for the review and approval by the Commission. 1. A motion was made by Commissioner Wiedmeyer to approve the minutes as submitted. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Skaggs and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 380 Congdon Avenue: Discussion was held regarding the siding and windows being replaced. Also window hoods and the vestibule were added. The garage has been expanded and there is a large dormer out back. The garage door is not original and the corner boards of the vinyl siding change the details and proportions of the house. The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance only to see if the changes disqualified the home from receiving a plaque. Architectural Significance: 5.0 Since the application failed to receive more than the minimum of 6 points in this category it was not eligible to be awarded a plaque. D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: Jerry Turnquist has $1800 so far due to his efforts. The marker will be at Rt 20 and Nessler. A masonry base will cost more but be more attractive. 2. Historic Marker Survey: Commissioner Halik will present at the next meeting. 3. Preservation Month Planning Committee: i. Mayor's Awards Banquet: JoEllen will run the dessert bar with punch, coffee and water for$1500. Piece of Cake will donate a cake to celebrate the 15th anniversary of the grant program. ii. Invitations: Will be by Kismet for$255. iii. Posters: Posters will be free, 11x17. Dave Metzger will design and print for us. iv. Brochure: Want to keep the cost down. Limit color, 11x17 tri-fold, approx. 300. Dave r Metzger will design for us. v. Events: Awards Dinner May 13, ABODE Bowling, GPA Golf, Great Unveiling May 1, Sustainable Home and Garden Expo May 8, Observatory Tour May 7, Museum day at Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 February 2, 2010 EAHS May 20, Artifact Garden Dedication May 15, and Gifford Park Golf Classic May 28. 4. Grant Program Contest: Staff has photos from everyone except 268 Douglas. The contest will be featured during Jeff Myers' Elgin Today program. 5. House Plaque Application: 503 Hendee: The commission asked staff to set up a time when they could visit the site to determine what is original versus alterations. 6. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: Mtg 2/3/10 7pm at DNA vi. Historical Society: Feb. 20th is an observatory tour/open house. The museum opens March 14th for the 2010 year. On April 9th the Planning/Bennett exhibit will be at the Public Museum. vii. DNA: Now running the facade and projecting sign program E. New Business. 1. National Street TOD Study: Staff released preliminary documents on the progress of the National Street TOD study. The commissioners were encouraged to attend the next public meeting on Tuesday March 2 to find out more. 411) 2. Blackhawk History Project: Blackhawk Neighborhood is working on an oral history project with Elgin Academy. Commissioner Briska will research the history of the area. F. Other Business. 1. 320 N Spring Street: Some discussion was held based on the testimony given during the Public hearing. Motion made by Commissioner Halik to uphold the decision of the Design Review Subcommittee to deny the Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion failed 2-5. G. Correspondence.None. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Hunter to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. 2. The meeting was adjourned at 8:32 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ^ / / ofnnifer Fritz-Wi ,611 s 411, Historic Preservation Specialist City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 2" Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. *February 2, 2010 C. Plaque Applications D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. Survey of Existing Historic Markers 3. Preservation Month Planning (Subcommittee meeting at 6pm) 4. Grant Program Contest Update 5. Tabled House Plaque Application— 503 Hendee Street 6. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA v. ARCHES ii. GPA vi. DNA iii. SWAN vii.EAHS iv. ABODE E. New Business 1. Grant Review Subcommittee Recap 2. Mayor's Award Nominations i. Bluff City Cemetery v. Carl &Nicole Brahms ii. Stacy Reynolds &Kathy Moore vi. First Congregational Church iii. Sears Catalogue House vii. Habitat for Humanity Trolley Tour viii. Paul Eyrich iv. Laurie Faith Gibson-Aiello ix. JB Harris Construction F. Other Business G. Correspondence ,, H. Adjournment City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission March 2, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Betsy Couture, Rebecca Hunter, James Halik, Kathy Skaggs, Paul Durrenberger, Evelyn Chapman and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: William Ristow 3. Others Present: Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: Minutes of the February 2, 2010 meetings were submitted for the review and approval by the Commission. 1. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to approve the minutes as corrected. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: Jerry Turnquist has now collected$2300 due to his efforts. The State has recommended a larger marker since there is a lot of info. That incurs an additional cost, so he needs at least$3000. 2. Historic Marker Survey: Commissioner Halik is working on it. 3. Preservation Month Planning Committee: No meeting this month. 4. Grant Program Contest: Almost 400 votes so far,not all of them are eligible. The three top projects are 156 S Gifford, 653 Douglas and 434 E Chicago. 5. House Plaque Application: 503 Hendee: Staff has not talked to the homeowner about the commissioners coming out to the house. 6. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: The neighborhood plan is in the final stages. ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: vi. Historical Society: vii. DNA: E. New Business. Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 March 2, 2010 1. Grant Review Subcommittee recap: The subcommittee would like to see the following changes for next year: i. The applicants must submit color schemes if painting is part of the grant ii. One grant must be completed and paid out in full (all code issues addressed,before they can apply for another. iii. Details on scrape and paint. Is it going down to bare wood or only loose, flaking,peeling paint. What method is being used to remove paint? iv. No money for aluminum storm windows and doors. Staff should double check application to make sure ineligible projects list is complete and accurate. v. The 50/50 program gives 5 points for maintenance but the 75/25 gives none. They should be the same. vi. Applicants must have an approved COA before applying for a grant. vii. Two separate meetings may be required since 75/25 applicants do not have their tax returns done by the end of January. viii. Criteria should reflect the scope of the project. ix. Only certified RRP or lead-abatement contractors may bid on projects. Contractors should provide proof of insurance and warranty. 2. Mayor's Award Nominations: Chairman Briska asked the commissioners to be a bit more discerning in choosing projects for recognition. i. Bluff City Cemetery: There was discussion on whether the city employees were paid for their time and if this was really above and beyond their regular duties. The vote was 1-7. ii. Stacey Reynolds&Kathy Moore: SWAN got an award last year for raising awareness of the historic architecture in their neighborhood, but this is for the individuals. The vote was 5-3. iii. Trolley Tour: The trolley tour was part of SWAN's award last year,but this is also to recognize an individual. The vote was 5-3. iv. Laurie Faith Gibson-Aiello: The zoo is over 100 years old and she saved it from closing. She is helping to raise money to sustain the zoo. The vote was 5-3. v. 730 Douglas: The work is not done. It is a small project. But they didn't have to go back and completely redesign the porch after it was already approved by the DRSC to match a photograph found. The vote was 2-6. vi. First Congregational Church: This was above and beyond what anybody expected them to do. The vote was 8-0. vii. Habitat for Humanity: This award could encourage them to do more rehabilitations and less vinyl boxes. The vote was 6-2. viii. 809 N Spring: Wow! He is almost completely done on the exterior. The vote was 8-0. ix. JB Harris Construction: This is not an Artisan Award,just recognition for rehabilitations across the city over the years. The vote was 8-0. F. Other Business. 1. 372 N Spring Street: Staff passed out copies of the transcripts from the public. G. Correspondence. Handouts. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Durrenberger to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Halik and passed unanimously. 41) 2. The meeting was adjourned at 8:05 p.m. Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 • March 2,2010 Respectfully submitted, 9 nnifer Fritz-Wil ' s Historic Preservation Planner rik r City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, April 6, 2010 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 2" Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. *March 2, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *467 Division Street 2. *524 Bent Street D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. Survey of Existing Historic Markers 3. Preservation Month Planning (Subcommittee meeting at 6pm) 4. Grant Program Contest Update 5. Tabled House Plaque Application—503 Hendee Street 6. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii. EAHS E. New Business F. Other Business G. Correspondence H. Adjournment City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission April 6, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:03 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Betsy Couture, Rebecca Hunter, William Ristow, Evelyn Chapman and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Kathy Skaggs, James Halik and Paul Durrenberger 3. Others Present: Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: Minutes of the March 2, 2010 meetings were submitted for the review and approval by the Commission. 1. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to approve the minutes as submitted. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Chapman and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 467 Division Street: Discussion was held regarding the incomplete front porch. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to tabled the application until the house was finished. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Chapman and passed unanimously. 2. 524 Bent Street: A brief discussion was held regarding if this was a Gorden VanTyne Kit House. The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance,historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 7.5 Historical Significance: 7.3 Current Maintenance: 8.3 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1926, A. Swanson. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: We are right at the required dollar amount. Shales McNutt will provide the installation on the pole. The city is donating the pole 2. Historic Marker Survey: Commissioner Halik was not present. 3. Preservation Month Planning Committee: There will be 16-17 plaques, 9 awardees, and the three best grant projects. We need to keep the evening going so not to bore people. 4. Grant Program Contest: About 1000 votes submitted so far. The current top three projects are 156 S Gifford, 653 Douglas and 434 E Chicago. 5. House Plaque Application: 503 Hendee: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance,historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 6.5 Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 April 6, 2010 Historical Significance: 6.3 Current Maintenance: 6.6 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1922, C. Taylor. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Chapman and passed unanimously 6. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: Mark Runyan has been elected ABODE president. v. ARCHES:Next meeting Wed. April 7th @ DNA 7pm. vi. Historical Society: Field trip to CNT, Lincoln Park. Factory Bell has been hung, needs to be welded. Museum re-opened with new exhibits. Dan Miller was the guest speaker on Elgin Architecture. Bike to work week is coming. Mr. Turnquist will lead a bike tour. vii. DNA: E. New Business. 1. 100th Anniversary of Road Race: There will be a tour of the race route with the Model-T car club. The marker will be dedicated August 7th around noon. 2. Memberships: Jennifer Fritz-Williams presented membership renewals for the commission. AI) Given the limited budget, staff recommends only renewing Landmarks Illinois,NAPC, and IAHPC. i. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to renew memberships based on staff's recommendation. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and approved unanimously. F. Other Business: 1. Wing Park Sign Dedication: Commissioner Couture mentioned setting a date with Sue Olafson for the public dedication of the markers(local and National). 2. Settlement Marker: Chairman Briska mentioned that the neighborhood may need more funds to complete the marker. G. Correspondence. Handouts. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Ristow to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 7:52 p.m. Respectful) submitted, 4111111 - ennifer Fritz- etifr ms Historic Preservation Planner (Agenda only City Clerk Elgin Heritage Commission Design Review Subcommittee Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:00 p.m. Elgin City Council Chambers 150 Dexter Court Elgin, IL 60120 Agenda A. Call Meeting to Order B. Roll Call C. Approval of Minutes 1. April 13, 2010 2. April 27, 2010 D. Old Business E. New Business 1. 320 N Spring Street— Side Porch and retaining wall 2. 107 Lovell Street—Replace porch floor, treads, skirting 3. 141 Tennyson Ct—Replace balustrade on side porch (along North Street) 4. 527 Arlington Avenue— Replace soffits F. Tabled Items 1. 703 Raymond Street—Restore porches (10-13-09) 2. 625 N Spring Street—Restore porch (4-27-10) G. Correspondence 1. COA Log 2. Violation Log H. Adjournment eak City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, June 1, 2010 Immediately following the Public Hearing City Council Chambers 2" Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. April 6, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *467 Division Street D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. Survey of Existing Historic Markers 3. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii. EAHS E. New Business 1. *Preservation Month Recap 2. *Budget Report 3. Request for Settlement Marker 4. *Cell Phone Tour 5. Wing Park Golf Course Plaque Installation 6. *Appeal of DRSC decision re: 255 Bartlett Place F. Other Business G. Correspondence H. Adjournment City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission June 1, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 8:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Betsy Couture, Rebecca Hunter,William Ristow, and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: James Halik and Paul Durrenberger 3. Others Present: Dan Miller, Doug Tomsha, and Mark Billings 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: No minutes submitted for review. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 467 Division Street: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 8.2 Historical Significance: 7.8 Current Maintenance: 9.0 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1891, Aaron T. Ashbrook. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: The dedication will be August 7th at 1pm. On the 8th from 10-3 is the parade of Model T cars making one lap of the course. Sherman West Court will have costumes, games exhibits. 2. Historic Marker Survey: Commissioner Halik was not present. 3. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Garage Sale June 11, 12 at 820 Douglas Avenue ii. GPA: Garden walk in neighborhood on June 12th iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES:Next meeting Wed. June 9th @ DNA 7pm. vi. Historical Society: There Used to Be: Volume III is almost ready. Mr. Alft is working on a Hispanic history book as well. vii. DNA: Design Center up and running. We are working with Hilltop Skate shop to update the exterior of their building. E. New Business. 1. Preservation Month Recap: Chairman Briska complimented JoEllen and Betsy on the wonderful catering. He also complimented staff for their attention to detail. Commissioner Couture replied that the staff at the Centre was difficult to deal with. They didn't want an outside vendor, only someone on their pre-approved list because of insurance. Randy Reopelle had to approve JoEllen as the caterer. Staff suggested the 8th floor of the Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 June 1,2010 Professional Building for next year. This building is a local landmark and has the capabilities to host the awards. Commissioner Wiedmeyer stated that the seating worked out great as well. A recap of the attendance for each event was discussed. Also, staff gave the final vote count for the Grant Contest to the commissioners. 2. Budget Report: Jennifer Fritz-Williams distributed the expenses to date. The EHC has approx. $2100 left in their budget. Chairman Briska thanked Betsy and JoEllen for keeping the Mayor's Awards under budget. 3. Request for Settlement Marker: Chairman Briska gave a brief history of the Settlement Marker saga and how the marker has come to be in its present state. Mark Billings presented a proposal to finish the marker for about$1000. He asked the EHC to contribute $600.00. The neighborhood would fund the rest. After a brief discussion, Commissioner Ristow made a motion to provide half the original amount or$750. Commissioner Wiedmeyer amended the motion to"not to exceed$750"with the neighborhood providing whatever they can. The amended motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture and passed unanimously. 4. New Cell Phone Tour Location: Mark Billings presented a proposal to add the Channing Elementary Park to the Cell phone tour. The Elgin Rotary Club is installing an education signage along the walking path and this would be a good tie in. The rotary sign will be dedicated July 1 in the morning. The cost would be approx. $35 for the voice recording and $35 for the sign,pole and installation as well. A motion as made by Commissioner Couture to install a new cell phone tour location for a cost not to exceed$100. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. 5. Wing Park Golf Course Plaque Installation: Commissioner Couture discussed the uninstalled local and national register plaques at the golf course. Chairman Briska said the plaques had come to the museum and the museum staff had given them back to the parks department. He had talked to a certain employee who is frustrated with the lack of respect the golf course staff has shown for the plaques and the cache they lend to the golf course. It was generally discussed that something should be done to get the plaques installed at the golf course. 6. Appeal of DRSC decision re: 255 Barlett Place: Commissioner Couture expressed her dissatisfaction with the attitude of the owners. Commissioner Wiedmeyer noted that the owners had two years to put together drawings before beginning work. Commissioner Ristow noted that the owner thought he was right to do what he did and know amount of reasoning would sway his opinion. Wiedmeyer noted that Michael seemed ready to compromise but Greg was very proud of his work. Ms. Chapman asked if a new floor could laid on top of the old one to get the correct layout. Commissioner Wiedmeyer stated that would trap moisture. Chairman Briska noted that both property owners were talking out of both sides of their mouths. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to uphold the decision of the DRSC. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. F. Other Business: G. Correspondence.Handouts. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Ristow to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Jennifer Fritz-Williams Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 June 1,2010 l i...'il e.... storic Prese On Planner rilk rk City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, July 6, 2010 7:00 PM Conference Room 2°d Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. April 6, 2010 2. June 1, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *16 N Charming Street D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. *Budget report 3. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii.EAHS E. New Business 1. Crocker Theatre facade reuse 2. Fence Guideline Subcommittee 3. Bungalow Historic District 4. Membership F. Other Business G. Correspondence H. Adjournment City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission July 6, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, James Halik, Betsy Couture, Rebecca Hunter, William Ristow, and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Paul Durrenberger 3. Others Present: Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: No minutes submitted for review. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 16 N Channing Street: A discussion was held regarding the current maintenance of the building and the concrete steps. Jennifer Fritz-Williams confirmed that the COA to repair the steps had been pulled. Commissioner Couture mentioned that the original drawings show the house was cladded. A few commissioners noted that it may never have been cladded, possibly a design change during construction or the owner opted for stucco from the beginning. The stucco is flush with the trim around the windows and doors though. The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 8.2 Historical Significance: 8.8 Current Maintenance: 7.2 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1899, Thomas A Munshaw. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Halik and passed unanimously. D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: Chairman Briska mentioned that the road race marker will face the street and not be a great attraction for people going to the bank. So it was proposed that a local historic sign be made to attach to the back of the State's marker. He presented a mock- up of the text, graphics, and color for the commission to consider. The cost estimates for this additional signage could be up to $300. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to spend up to $300 on the signage. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed 5-0-1. 2. Budget: Most preservation month receipts have been paid. Waiting on one from the cake company. But after factoring in repaints and new plaques for the rest of the year, the commission has about$1400 (not including the $300 just budgeted). 0 Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 July 6 2010 3. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Every neighborhood group should have a parade float. ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: Our float was awesome! v. ARCHES: vi. Historical Society: There Used to Be: Volume III is out. $24.95 at the Museum. vii. DNA: The whole parade was awesome! E. New Business. 1. Crocker Theater facade Reuse: Commissioner Couture mentioned that Tom Armstrong had suggested that ArtSpace use the Crocker façade way back when they first presented the idea of being downtown to city council. Nothing has happened though. Some discussion was held regarding how to best remind ArtSpace that this opportunity exists. The commission decided that a letter to City Council, Sean Stegall and the Mayor would be the best way to proceed. Commissioner Halik volunteered to write the letter. 2. Fence Guideline Subcommittee: Chairman Briska asked the commission to consider forming a subcommittee to review the current fence guidelines. He sees this as an opportunity for continuous process/quality improvement. The guidelines need tweaking from time to time and some comments have been made that the fence guidelines are not specific enough. Commissioner Wiedmeyer stated that the fence guidelines are pretty specific. The guidelines are not a bible or right versus wrong,but rather guidelines open for interpretation. Commissioner Halik asked for a list of fences that have been approved in the last twelve months. He noted that the guidelines need to be kept open for personal, artistic preferences, and aesthetic choices. Commissioner Couture agreed. She stated that fences are personal. If it was up to her,there would be no fences in the front yards at all and no 6' fences in rear yards. But she doesn't except everyone to follow her personal choices. She likes the diversity that there is now in the guidelines. Chairman Briska added that all processes need to be tweaked from time to time. His neighbor put up a fence and asked him for advice. There could be value in provided a drawing to COA applicants. Commissioner Ristow noted that unless he knew what had been approved, he could not comment. Commissioner Halik added that the guidelines can't dictate only one way of doing something, that is too restrictive. Commissioner Couture added that the commission should remember that fences are not permanent features. Commissioner Wiedmeyer suggested a"good, better,best"drawing for staff to hand out. Jennifer Fritz-Williams stated that this whole discuss comes out of the June 8th DRSC meeting when Mr. Miller disagreed with staff's interpretation of the guidelines, specifically Item K. She stated that requiring in-line corner posts and gate posts on all fences would not be appropriate. The historic districts have a variety of architectural styles and housing types. Fancy corner posts, gate posts, and inline posts with recessed panels and caps were a Victorian high style fence. This would not be appropriate for the many vernacular homes and post Victorian architectural homes in our historic districts. Her preference would be to allow the fence guidelines to stay as they are written, "appropriate to the house style." Chairman Briska noted that staff should not take the criticism as a personal attack on her work but how the process could be better. Commissioner Halik noted that he would like to see what staff has approved first before making any adjustments to the fence guidelines. Mr. Miller noted that"fences are close to my heart," since he rewrote the fence guidelines a few years ago based on his research of 30-40 other fence guidelines around the country. He mentioned that Sarosh did not make all the changes he requested at that time. This has lead to do-it-yourselfers slapping fencing sections from Menards together. The homeowners are Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 July 6 2010 not following the old-timers techniques for fence construction. At a minimum corner and gate post must be required. He stated this would" add class."He wants to add language that would required all posts to be wrapped with lx like porch posts are wrapped. A motion was made by Commissioner Halik to allow the commission 60 days to review staff approvals over the last year to determine if changes are necessary to the guidelines. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. 3. Bungalow Historic District: Chairman Briska brought this idea to the commission after talking with Steve Stroud. It seems the mayor supports the idea. But is it possible? Jennifer Fritz-Williams said she would contact the legal department but the ordinance would probably have to be amended to include noncontiguous language. Commissioner Hunter mentioned that Joliet has a bungalow ordinance. She offered to get a copy for the commission to review. Commissioner Couture asked if this would be similar to Chicago's program. Chairman Briska said yes, owners would opt in,but the title of the property would be restricted. He was unaware if Chicago had this step in place. 4. Membership: Chairman Briska noted that the commission is down two members with Evelyn Chapman's and Kathy Skagg's terms expiring. Commissioner Hunter mentioned that she spoke to Margaret Keen but she was unavailable do to other commitments. Other suggestions were Tom Krebsbach or a local architect. F. Other Business: ribk 1. Spring/Douglas Toppers: Commissioner Halik and Couture were upset that the street toppers were taken down. Jennifer Fritz-Williams informed them that due to the parade route along Douglas, it was requested that public works install new street signage that meets the new reflectivity standards. This required larger poles. The larger poles made the existing topper holder not fit. Public Works ordered new topper holders and all the HD toppers were re-installed before the parade. The toppers were only down a few days. 2. Cell Phone Tour: Jennifer Fritz-Williams announced that she forgot to request the sign for Channing Park before her vacation so it was not ready for the Rotary Club unveiling. Chairman Briska mentioned that other signs remain un-installed. Jennifer stated that one sign (Ziegler Court)has a spelling error and needs to go back to the sign company. Five others still need to be installed. Commissioner Wiedmeyer offered to install the one at Lord's Pavilion. 3. Golf Course Plaques: Chairman Briska announced he ran into Randy Reopelle and mentioned the landmark plaque situation. Randy was unaware the plaques had come down and said he would look into it for the EHC. 4. 510 N Worth Ave: Chairman Briska mentioned that this property owner is on the housewalk, and would like to have a plaque before the tour. Jennifer Fritz-Williams reminded him that the application would need to be received by July 23`d 5. 380 Congdon Ave: Jennifer Fritz-Williams announced that this property owner was disappointed that her house did not receive a plaque. She noted that some of the commission's comments were not accurate and invited all of them out to her house to see the property up close. After a brief discuss it was decided to have a site visit on August 3 at 6pm, immediately preceding the regularly scheduled August meeting. x Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 4 July 6 2010 al6. Wing Mansion: Commissioner Couture mentioned that the property owner is going to landmark this house before it sells. She is working with Brian Anderson to gather documentation. G. Correspondence. Handouts. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Ristow to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m. Respectfull submitted, el/iv 'fer Fritz-Wi s Historic Preservation Planner 4) 4) City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 2n Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court, Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. *April 6, 2010 2. *June 1, 2010 3. *July 6, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *508 Ashland Ave 2. *380 Congdon Ave D. Old Business 1. Road Race marker 2. Bungalow Historic District 3. Update on Cell Phone Tour signs 4. Update on Crocker Theater façade reuse 5. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii. EAHS E. New Business 1. Rockford Energy Efficient Workshop for Historic Buildings F. Other Business 1. Fence Guidelines Subcommittee (Tabled) G. Correspondence H. Adjournment r • City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission "-" August 3, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, James Halik, Betsy Couture, Paul Durrenberger, William Ristow, and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Rebecca Hunter 3. Others Present: Dan Miller,Jose Villalobos 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams,Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: Commissioner Couture made a motion to approve the minutes of April, June and July as corrected. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 508 Ashland Avenue: A discussion was held regarding the alterations to the building. Specifically,the commissioners mentioned the front porch and the enclosed side porch. The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance,historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 6.0 Historical Significance: 6.5 Current Maintenance: 6.3 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1890, Charles Smithburg. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. 2. 380 Congdon Avenue: A discussion was held regarding the alterations to the building. Specifically,the commissioners mentioned the four window hoods painted red on the front of the building. It was decided to approve the plaque and educate the owners on removing the hoods in the future. The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 6.0 Historical Significance: 6.2 Current Maintenance: 7.5 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1936,A.& C. Stiles. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. • 0. • Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 August 3 2010 D. Old Business 1. Road Race Marker: Chairman Briska mentioned that the road race marker will be dedicated August 7 at the bank. The back of the sign will be temporary for the unveiling. A total of$4520 was raised. $300 from the EHC. Chairman Briska will pick up the podium on Friday at the Hemmens. 2. Bungalow HD: Chairman Briska reiterated that we are in the early stages of decided how to go about creating a thematic district. HCBI is a voluntary"thematic designation"that is not contingent on the title. AN e-mail from Pat Hill was discussed by the commission members and staff. She was very upset she had been left out of the discussion and thought that a bungalow thematic district would detract from SWAN's overall goal of becoming a district. Several commissioners mentioned that the bungalow theme district was going to be city wide,not SWAN specific. And this would help lay the ground work for more appreciation of bungalows,building on the past successes of SWAN and would help them in the long run. A motion was made by Commissioner Halik to create a subcommittee to research thematic district designations. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. Volunteers for the group included Commissioners Ristow, Couture, Halik, Hunter, and DRSC Chair Steve Stroud. Jennifer Fritz-Williams will send out an e-mail to coordinate a meeting. 3. Cell Phone Tour: Commissioner Couture mentioned that the sign at Festival Park at Prairie street was damaged and may need to be replaced. Jennifer Fritz-Williams apologized to the commission for the delay in getting the signs made. But that work is being done now by Signs Now. 4. Crocker Theatre: Commissioner Halik stated the letter is almost done. Staff had talked to Sylvia and ArtSpace is interested in some type of installation. She wanted to know the condition of the terra cotta. 5. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Wants pavers. ii. GPA: Housewalk. iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: vi. Historical Society: vii. DNA: E. New Business. 1. Rockford Energy Efficiency Workshop for Historic Buildings: Commissioner Halik has agreed to go to learn about this seminar so the city can promote a similar event during Preservation Month. Staff cannot make it since that is the day of the big party! Commissioner Ristow also agreed to go. 2. Monument Bike Tour: Chairman Briska proposed a bike tour of the monument markers in conjunction with the EAHS. As the end of the year approaches and funds remain available, the EHC may want to co-fund this brochure. f _ M Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 August 3 2010 F. Other Business: 1. Fence Guideline Subcommittee(Tabled): Jennifer Fritz-Williams reminded the commissioners to review the list of fences approved during the last year to discuss at the next meeting. G. Correspondence.Handouts. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Ristow to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Halik and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:06 p.m. Respectfully submitted, c fifer Fritz-Wi ails istoric Preservati• Planner rm. City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION ribk Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:00 PM North Conference Room 2°d Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court,Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. August 3, 2010 C. Plaque Applications D. Old Business 1. Bungalow Historic District 2. Update on Cell Phone Tour signs 3. Survey of Existing Historic Markers ` 4. Update on Crocker Theater façade reuse e1 5. *Fence Guidelines Subcommittee 6. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii.EAHS E. New Business 1. Publications and Cultural Tours 2. Ideas to spend $ i. Hispanics in Elgin by Alft ii. History of History by Alft iii. Flyer/map on historic sites/monuments in Elgin F. Correspondence G. Adjournment • City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission -- September 7, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:05 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, James Halik,Betsy Couture,Paul Durrenberger, William Ristow, Rebecca Hunter and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: 3. Others Present: Dan Miller 4. City Staff Present: Jennifer Fritz-Williams,Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: None submitted for approval. C. Plaque Applications: None. D. Old Business 1. Bungalow HD: Chairman Briska asked if staff had talked to council about support for this type of designation. Jennifer Fritz-Williams stated she had talked to the legal department and esk the senior planner with no objections found. She will confirm that the mayor and Councilman Steffen support the idea and then proceed to talk to other council members. Commissioner Halik suggested other districts be looked at too like catalogue. Commissioner Hunter stated that 1. We should focus on one district at a time and 2.A bungalow district would encompass most catalogue homes. Dan Miller suggested the commission write a memo to council. Chairman Briska stated that staff would take care of that. Commissioner Hunter suggested that excerpts of the Joliet ordinance be attached to the memo. Commissioner Ristow suggested that sending a memo to council now would be premature. Commission members should gather evidence and information to inform council first. Commissioners Ristow,Halik, and Hunter volunteered to gather other ordinances for staff to review and attach to memo to council. 2. Cell Phone Tour: Commissioner Wiedmeyer returned the plaque for the Public Museum because the date and some information were incorrect. Staff mentioned the new Channing Park sign is ready but need to know location. Chairman Briska would like it installed right next to other new sign. 3. Crocker Theatre: Commissioner Halik mentioned that there are grants available, like Sears Holding America Promise that provides matching funds for volunteer projects. This may qualify. 4. Fence Guideline Subcommittee: Chairman Briska started the conversation by stating that the discussion should be about the guidelines, not staff's interpretations. The central question is"Are the guidelines as written adequate and unambiguous or do they need to be revised and rbk clarified?If anyone has a problem with how the guidelines are being interpreted,they need to follow the chain of command all the way to the city manager. Commissioner Halik spoke first supporting the existing guidelines. More restrictions/hurdles will prohibit people from • Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 September 7 2010 making improvements. Some fences available at the big box Mores are acceptable and should stay that way. Commissioner Ristow agreed with Halik. Commissioner Hunter stated that as more and more mid-century modern homes become historic, our guidelines need to remain flexible to accommodate their period of significance. Commissioner Durrenberger stated that while the fences in Mr.Miller's packet looked beautiful,people's pockets are only so deep. Commissioner Ristow stated that fences can be more utilitarian, temporary, and for safety not just aesthetics. Commissioner Couture mentioned that plain picket fences are okay for vernacular homes, which is most of the properties in the districts. Commissioner Wiedmeyer stated that craftsmanship is important though. Panels on the front of 4x4's can be ugly. "Stick"built is the preferred method of fence contractors. Commissioner Couture asked if fence contractors could be added to the list distributed to owners. Staff agreed to update the list. She also mentioned that the EHC cannot control aesthetics and that fences were temporary. There were a few comments on requiring fences to be painted. Staff stated that she does not require fences to be painted since the guidelines do not control color. In her opinion it would be better for the fence to weather naturally and fade into the landscape than to become an eyesore of garish paint colors or continually peeling paint. She mentioned the house on Park Street that has painted the pickets white and the posts red, creating a candy cane effect as an example of a garish paint job. Commissioner Ristow agreed that requiring paint could have negative repercussions. Commissioner Halik stated that being less restrictive and allowing owners to use their artistic license is his preferred course of action. Commissioner Durrenberger made a motion to form a subcommittee to review fence guidelines for revision. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Couture and failed 3-4. Mr. Miller then spoke up and asked what recourse he had since he believes that Sarosh and Jennifer are not interpreting the guidelines correctly. He specifically mentioned 467 Division. Chairman Briska reminded him that the EHC had no authority over staff,that he should contact the city manager or their direct supervisors to discuss that issue. 5. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Monster Bash is coming ii. GPA: Housewalk on Saturday Sept. 11`h iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: vi. Historical Society: Fire barn Muster on Sept. 18th, Cemetery Walk on Sept. 26th, Roosevelt speaking at Annual Meeting on November 6`h vii. DNA: There will be a fundraiser at Villa Verone to raise money for Kinney's and rage's building for façade improvements. E. New Business. 1. Ideas to spend money: Commissioner Briska mentioned there is approximately$1600 left in the budget. i. Hispanic History in Elgin: This is a booklet by Mr.Alft being printed for Hispanic heritage Month in October. It will be in English and Spanish approx. 120 pages. The total cost should be about $4700 for 1000 copies. ii. Review of all historical documents: Mr. Alft would like to index all the historical documents on hand from the centennial celebration, century club, old settlers etc creating an annotated bibliography or"who's who"of Elgin history. This would be approx. 400 copies and estimated cost should be $2500. Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 September 7 2010 iii. Tours: A self guided tour of individual monuments and museums in the area like the Fire • Barn,Pioneer Statue, Dough Boy etc. Commissioner Ristow made a motion to contribute$1000 to the Hispanic History Booklet and have any remaining funds got to the"History of History"Book. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Halik and passed unanimously. F. Other Business: None G. Correspondence.Commissioner Halik passed around his brochures from the Rockford event. Both Halik and Ristow gave a brief report on the seminar. Mentioned that twice as many people came than had registered. That EHC can definitely glean content and speakers from this seminar for our use in May. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Couture to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m. Respectfully submitted, nnifer Fritz-Wi 401 s Historic Preservation Planner elluk City Clerk Diane Robertson ELGIN HERITAGE COMMISSION ribk Tuesday, October 5, 2010 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 2nd Floor North Tower 150 Dexter Court, Elgin,IL 60120 AGENDA A. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call B. Approval of Minutes 1. * August 3, 2010 2. * September 7, 2010 C. Plaque Applications 1. *510 N Worth Ave 2. *331 Griswold Ave D. Old Business 1. Bungalow Historic District 2. Update on Cell Phone Tour signs 3. Survey of Existing Historic Markers 4. Update on Crocker Theater facade reuse 5. Report from Neighborhood groups i. NENA ii. GPA iii. SWAN iv. ABODE v. ARCHES vi. DNA vii. EAHS E. New Business 1. *Landmark Application— 806 Highland Avenue F. Correspondence G. Adjournment r I City of Elgin "ik Elgin Heritage Commission October 5, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:03 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present:William Briska, Betsy Couture, Paul Durrenberger, Rebecca Hunter and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent: Bill Ristow and James Halik 3. Others Present: Dan Miller, Pat Hill, Dann Farquhar 4. City Staff Present:Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: Commissioner Hunter made a motion to approve the minutes of August and September as corrected. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: 1. 510 N Worth Avenue: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 8.8 Historical Significance:8.2 Current Maintenance: 9.0 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Couture to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1927,W. & E. Giertz. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Durrenberger and passed unanimously. 2. 331 Griswold Street: There was a brief discussion about the lack of historical detail on the property. Commissioner Couture mentioned that the city directories were not submitted along with other various original documents. A motion was made by Commissioner Durrenberger to table this plaque application for additional information. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. D. Old Business 1. Bungalow HD: Chairman Briska asked if staff had talked to council about support for this type of designation. Jennifer Fritz-Williams stated she had talked to Councilman Steffen and the Mayor, both of whom support the idea, but would like to see more details ironed out. Staff will talk to other council members as time becomes available. Staff noted that the ordinance from Joliet submitted by Commissioner Hunter did not mention thematic or bungalow districts. Commissioner Hunter said she would look into the ordinance further. • Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 October 5 2010 Additionally, it was noted that the subcommittee members should look into defining "What is a bungalow?" 2. Cell Phone Tour: Chairman Briska submitted a chart to staff of all the locations including an assessment of signs that need to be replaced. Staff will take this to the sign shop. There are currently 8 signs damaged or not installed. 6 will be replaced/installed. The signs for Trout Park and the zoo have other factors that are deterring them from being installed. 3. Crocker Theatre: No discussion 4. Crocker Theater façade reuse: No discussion 5. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Monster Bash is coming.There may be a Christmas tour. ii. GPA: Housewalk was a success with approximately 1200 people in attendance. iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: Helped Fire Barn pull off muster on Sept. 18th. Despite rain showers, it was well attended. vi. Historical Society: Cemetery Walk on Sept. 26th had the highest attendance in over 5 years, Hispanic History Book is in. Roosevelt speaking at Annual Meeting on November w 6th (also benefit and silent auction). vii. DNA:Art Salon at symphony way. Projecting signs at 4 businesses,facade projects at 216 E Chicago and 79 S Grove. E. New Business. 1. Landmark Application—806 Highland Avenue:Staff noted the following information was missing or needed clarification in the application: a. Marriage announcement for William G. and Augusta Sawyer. I saw that the library has this indexed. b. You mention Augusta was from New England, Hope Davis. Which state is that?Or was England the country?What was her maiden name? c. If the couple was married in 1864 and lived in Huntley for 22 years before coming to Elgin,where did they live from 1886 until 806 Highland was built? d. What year are you proposing for date of construction? 1893 or 1894? e. Provide a copy of the article from Dec. 30th 1893 that list W.W.Abell as the architect (Available at the library). Does the article say he has completed a residence or working on a residence? f. Can you provide copies of the city directories for the years 1893 and 1894. g. Provide a copy of the Obit for William G Sawyer(at the library). h. Provide a copy of the Obit for Augusta (check the library or the Historical Society) i. The historical society as the probate records for both William and Augusta,see if there is additional primary source material there that could expand your info on them. Did they have any children? j. Who was Frank McLean?Why did he sell so quickly? k. Minna (what was her maiden name?) married Ernest Ackemann. But you also state that Minna was the daughter of Henry and Minna Ackemann. Did she marry a cousin? Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 October 5 2010 I. This house should be qualified under 6 criteria.You only listed 4. Please add criteria D and F as this house is a significant example of Queen Anne high style architecture. Research at the library the book,A Field Guide to American Houses by Virginia &Lee McAlester. m. Sanborn Map:the one map you submitted didn't a have date, but I made copies of the 1913 and 1950 maps I have. n. The deed for a portion of lot 4 is great but what about the deed for lot 5?When did the Sawyer's buy the lot the house sits on and from whom? Can you go backwards from 1894?And forwards showing copies of the transfer each time? o. I made copies of all the building permits for the house since 1930's.That's as far back as our records go.You should include a paragraph describing the alterations to the home. The Porte cochere was removed,the siding put on,the handrails were altered,etc. I'll mail you a copy of the permits to help you. p. The photos need to be black and white, printed 5x7's. q. Can you provide a direct shot of the east side? It can be two different photos. There appears to be a balcony on the second floor hidden by the bay window. r. Please photograph and describe the stable. s. Can you provide photographs of some of the details of the house?Your shots are pretty far away and it would be great to have the specifics of the home on record. t. Can you provide any more information on Drs. 011ayos and Bangash?There are still 011ayos' in town. Are they any relation? Do they have memories they could share? The Andersons? u. Can you expand on Criteria A?How did the crash effect housing in the country and Elgin in particular? Commissioner Couture made a motion to table the application for additional information. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Durrenberger and passed unanimously. F. Other Business: None G. Correspondence. Staff announced that the Heritage Commission would be going paperless starting at the next meeting. The agenda and all applicable items will be available online for viewing. At the meeting, the overhead projector will show exhibits. H. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Durrenberger to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:06 p.m. Respectfully submitted, e nifer Fritz-Will Historic Preservation Planner 4 City of Elgin Elgin Heritage Commission November 2, 2010 MINUTES A. The meeting of the Elgin Heritage Commission was called to order at 7:04 p.m. in the City Council Chambers by Chairman Bill Briska. 1. Members Present: William Briska, Paul Durrenberger, Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow and John Wiedmeyer. 2. Members Absent:James Halik and Betsy Couture 3. Others Present: Dann Farquhar 4. City Staff Present:Jennifer Fritz-Williams, Historic Preservation Planner B. Approval of Minutes: Commissioner Wiedmeyer made a motion to approve the minutes of October as corrected. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. C. Plaque Applications: ribk 1. 331 Griswold: The plaque was scored on the criteria of architectural significance, historical significance and current maintenance, and received the following average scores in each of the three categories. Architectural Significance: 7.5 Historical Significance: 8.0 Current Maintenance: 7.25 Since the application received more than the minimum of 6 points in each category it was eligible to be awarded a plaque. A motion was made by Commissioner Ristow to award a plaque with the following inscription: 1893, A. &A. Krogsrud. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. D. Old Business 1. Landmark Application -806 Highland Avenue: Dann Farquhar(owner) presented more evidence requested by the commission, including a 5 page letter from Dr. Clare 011ayos about growing up in the house. The commissioners asked for a few more clarifications.The owner agreed to flesh out the details and resubmit in December for the public hearing on January 4, 2011. A motion was made by Commissioner Hunter to accept the application to nominate 806 Highland Ave as a local landmark. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. 2. Bungalow HD:Jennifer Fritz-Williams stated she would need definitions from the commissioners on what they thought a bungalow should be. She has not received any. . Elgin‘Heritage Commission: Minutes page 2 November 2, 2010 3. Cell Phone Tour:Jennifer Fritz-Williams noted that any day the last two signs should be completed and then all signs can be installed. She will coordinate with volunteers and other city staff to install the 6 signs. 4. Historic marker Survey: Commissioner Halik was unable to attend 5. Crocker Theater façade reuse: A draft letter was presented to the commission for review and comment. It was agreed that the facade pieces should not be a n integral element on the exterior but possibly an interior decorative piece. 6. Report from neighborhood groups: i. NENA: Monster Bash was a huge success. ii. GPA: iii. SWAN: iv. ABODE: v. ARCHES: Brendan Morse is taking the Fire barn awareness to a new level. Would like to incorporate this location in preservation month 2011 activities. vi. Historical Society: Roosevelt speaking at Annual Meeting on November 6th (also benefit and silent auction). vii. DNA: Meeting at library to develop outreach strategies. E. New Business. 1. 2010 Budget: Staff asked to be reimbursed for the cost of her ticket to attend the CPCA dinner that honored 2 Elgin's residences as "Painted Ladies", including the grand prize winner. Commissioner Ristow made a motion to pay$55 for the dinner ticket. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. A discussion was held about funding the "history of history" booklet with all remaining funds. Commissioner Ristow made a motion to fund the booklet with all remaining funds.The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hunter and passed unanimously. 2. December Plaque Ceremony: Staff announced that there are 6 houses receiving plaques. The event is December 2 at 7pm at Old Main. All commissioners are asked to bring a dozen desserts to share. 3. 2011 Meeting Schedule: Staff presented the proposed meeting schedule for consideration. Commissioner Ristow made a motion to approve the schedule. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wiedmeyer and passed unanimously. r Elgin Heritage Commission: Minutes page 3 November 2, 2010 F. Correspondence.. Commissioner Ristow presented information on the Preserve America grants available for cultural heritage tourism. He also presented a quote from Not Just Anywhere which reads, "When you bulldoze your heritage, you become just anywhere." G. Adjournment: 1. Motion made by Commissioner Hunter to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ristow and passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, nifer Fritz-Willis Historic Preservation Planner Approved on 01/04/11 esib. 1.