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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 9, 2009
The regular Committee of the Whole meeting was called to order by Mayor Schock at 6:00 p.m.
in the Council Chambers. Present: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren,
and Mayor Schock. Absent: Councilmember Gilliam.
Approval of Minutes
Councilmember Steffen made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Kaptain, to approve the
minutes of the August 26, 2009, regular meeting. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers
Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
Consideration of Presentation and Acceptance of Engineering Study Prepared by Carroll
Engineering & Associates, Inc. Relative to Flooding Issues in the Preston, Cooper, Bellevue
Avenue Area
Councilmember Steffen made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Kaptain, to remove the
item from the table. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge,
Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
General Services Director, David Lawry, gave a review of the study. He explained that the
reasons for the study were to determine what was causing the problem and what potential
solutions were available. It was found that both the storm and sanitary sewers run at full
capacity, even in dry weather, and that portions of the sewers run flat or even “belly” in spots.
He identified a possible solution to be trying to remove flow from the system, to plug one
possible sewer line, to divert storm water further north, and to possibly lower a detention pond.
He indicated that staff would like to try a few of these possible solutions to see how they would
affect the flow.
Councilmember Dunne stated that this problem was due to the in-fill of residences in the area
and wondered if the developer would be responsible for any of the corrections. Mr. Lawry stated
he could not answer the question without knowing what developer was involved. City Manager
Stegall asked how long the conditions had existed and Mr. Lawry stated they had existed for
decades. Councilmember Dunne disagreed, stating that he had talked with many of the residents,
although not all. Councilmember Dunne then asked when the detention pond had been converted
for park use and Mr. Lawry thought it was in the early 1970’s. Councilmember Dunne asked if
the city would be responsible for restoring the detention pond to its original depth and Mr. Lawry
replied yes, that was his understanding. Councilmember Dunne asked that if the sewer lines
were running at 100%, then somewhere along the line should a developer have picked up the cost
of increasing capacity and did this problem exist anywhere else in the city. Mr. Lawry said he
was not sure what developer Councilmember Dunne was referring to and he stated there had
been very little development to that area. Councilmember Dunne asked about adding a three or
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four story building to the line or adding a new subdivision. Mr. Stegall stated that he did not feel
there was enough information available to draw any conclusions about the effects any recent
development would have had on the flow in the lines. Councilmember Dunne said that an
engineer had been hired and that he wanted to know what the report stated and did any other
problems exist anywhere in the city. Mr. Stegall stated again that there was not enough
information available to provide an answer. Councilmember Dunne stated he wanted Mr. Lawry
to answer the questions and Mr. Stegall stated that he himself had already answered it.
Councilmember Dunne asked if the city approved developments without knowing what the
impact would be on the city. Mr. Stegall said he was not saying that.
Mayor Schock remarked that the report referred to the bowl effect at Cooper and Preston that was
inadvertently created when Lords Park Manor was built. He stated that the report notes that the
sewer system was installed in 1907. He also mentioned that the building referenced by
Councilmember Dunne is not a new building, but one that has been there for decades.
Councilmember Dunne stated that he believed more waste was being discharged into the system
now than before the back fill projects were constructed. Councilmember Kaptain noted that a
considerable amount of waste was discharged into the system when the building was utilized as a
dairy. He stated that the sewers were constructed in the early 1900’s and that society has
changed its uses through the years. He felt the report was a classic example of an aging
infrastructure. He stated that sewers are full during dry weather because of infiltration; i.e. water
leaking in through cracks and gaps in the pipes. Councilmember Prigge asked what the latest
developments were in that area and Lords Park Manor and Blackhawk were mentioned.
Councilmember Dunne mentioned that the former shoe factory had been converted to condos.
Councilmember Kaptain acknowledged that sewer systems are designed differently today, and
said that it is an aging system that exists in that part of town.
Mr. Stegall said that staff will monitor what effect the proposed changes have and the system,
and will report back to the Council by early winter. He also noted that Fox River Water
Reclamation District and the city will be working together regarding the entire system.
Councilmember Steffen asked if staff will be trying to stop the leaking into the system. Mr.
Lawry said no, that the diversion of flow will be explored first. Councilmember Dunne asked if
monitoring will also take place to ensure that the diverted flow does not flood other areas and
Mr. Lawry assured him this would be done. Councilmember Warren asked if the residents in this
area would be eligible for the overhead sewer program and he was told they would be.
Consideration of Renewing a Purchase of Services Agreement with Kane County Child
Advocacy Center
Councilmember Kaptain made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Prigge, to approve an
agreement with Kane County Child Advocacy Center in the amount of $35,000. Upon a roll call
vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock.
Nays: None.
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Consideration of an Agreement with Illinois Water and Wastewater Response Network to
Provide and Receive Intrastate Mutual Aid
Councilmember Kaptain made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Steffen, to approve an
agreement with the Illinois Water/Wastewater Agency Response Network (ILWARN) to receive
and provide services via an intrastate mutual aid agreement. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas:
Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
Consideration of Amendment No. 1 with Wills Burke Kelsey Associates for Phase 1 Design
Engineering and Construction Engineering Services for Spartan Drive Reconstruction
Project
Councilmember Steffen made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Warren, to approve
Amendment No. 1 with Wills Burke Kelsey Associates in the amount of $228,185.28 for
additional Phase 1 design engineering services and construction services for the Spartan Drive
Reconstruction Project. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Steffen,
Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None. Councilmember Prigge abstained due to conflict.
Consideration of Amendment No. 2 with Crawford, Murphy & Tilly for Highland Avenue
Widening and Reconstruction Project
Councilmember Kaptain made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Steffen, to consider
Amendment No. 2 to an agreement with Crawford, Murphy & Tilly in the amount of $38,691 for
additional Phase 1 design engineering services for the Highland Avenue Widening and
Reconstruction Project.
Councilmember Warren asked if these funds were to be used only to complete the engineering
study. Mr. Stegall confirmed that statement and said that this was not to be seen as a go ahead
for the project itself. The completed study will assist in applying for other funds, if available.
He said that any potential widening of Highland Avenue would involve much more conversation
with both the Council and the public.
Councilmember Dunne asked if the township had been asked for matching funds and Mr. Stegall
stated he was not aware of any conversation with them.
Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and Mayor
Schock. Nays: Councilmember Dunne.
Consideration of the Sale of Multiple Spaces at Bluff City Cemetery
Councilmember Kaptain made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Warren, to approve the
purchase by the Institute of Islamic Education in the amount of $630,000 in revenue for a new
section of burial spaces at Bluff City Cemetery.
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Councilmember Prigge asked what qualifications are needed to be able to purchase multiple
spaces. Mr. Stegall said it was the ability to pay. Councilmember Prigge questioned if anyone
could make a purchase such as this and Mr. Stegall answered yes. Councilmember Dunne asked
what discount had been offered in the past. Mr. Stegall answered stating it was thirty percent.
Councilmember Dunne asked if the same rate had been offered to the local synagogue and Mr.
Nowicki replied that it had. Mr. Dunne then asked what interest rate was being charged. Mr.
Nowicki replied that they were being allowed to pay over time at zero interest.
Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and
Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
Consideration of an Amendment to Chapter 11 of the Elgin Municipal Code, Entitled
“Vehicles and Traffic”
Councilmember Steffen made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Kaptain, to remove the
item from the table. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge,
Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
Councilmember Steffen stated that although he understood the need of the odd/even parking ban,
he did not see the need for it during the summer months. He would like to see it in effect from
November 1 until May 1. He said that he would be voting against the proposal as it currently is
presented. Councilmember Kaptain said that he agreed with Councilmember Steffen, but that he
saw a problem with re-educating the public each fall. Councilmember Dunne said that Chicago
heavily advertises its parking restrictions and that if the city were to do this, it would assist with
the education issue.
Mr. Stegall said that there were pros and cons to every proposal. He felt this area should have a
year-round ban due to the dense neighborhoods, narrow streets, and safety issues that have been
presented to Council in previous meetings. Councilmember Dunne asked why waivers regarding
street widths were issued to new developments. Mr. Stegall stated no waivers had been issued
since he had been city manager. Councilmember Dunne responded that since Mr. Stegall had
only been city manager since July and since that there had been no annexation agreements during
that time, then he would be correct.
Councilmember Prigge mentioned that he had talked with several police officers and had been
told that it is easier for them to maneuver on wider streets. Mayor Schock brought up the fact
that wider streets may promote higher speeds. An example would be on Randall Road. He said
he had received several comments about how much traffic has slowed down on Wing Park
Boulevard since the installation of the median. Mayor Schock said that he would like to see
other alternatives brought forward. He stated he was not in favor of the odd/even parking, but
that he wants to see this issue resolved.
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Councilmember Kaptain made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Prigge, to approve an
amendment to Chapter 11 “Vehicles and Traffic” of the Elgin Municipal Code. Upon a roll call
vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays:
Councilmember Steffen.
Consideration of a Contract with Casey Equipment for the Rental of Wheel Loaders for
City’s Salt Storage Facilities
Councilmember Warren made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Steffen, to approve a
contract for the rental of two wheel loaders for the 2009/2010 winter season at a cost of $39,000
with Casey Equipment. Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge,
Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
Announcements from Council
Councilmember Kaptain asked staff to research the video gaming law and its possible effect on
the Grand Victoria Casino. He feels this is also a moral issue. Councilmember Dunne asked to
include any negative impact to the city. Mayor Schock said there is no urgency to make a
decision as the Gaming Board has been charged with the responsibility of formulating the rules
and regulations and they currently have no staff or funds to do so. Mr. Stegall said that several
communities have already voted against it as they are opposed gambling.
Announcements from Staff
Public Information Officer, Sue Olafson, announced upcoming events.
Councilmember Dunne announced he would be leaving the 911 ceremony early due to another
commitment.
Adjournment
Councilmember Steffen made a motion, seconded by Councilmember Kaptain, to adjourn to
Executive Session for the purpose of Appointment to Boards and Commissions (Exempt Under
Section 120/2(c) (3) of the Open Meetings Act). Upon a roll call vote: Yeas: Councilmembers
Dunne, Kaptain, Prigge, Steffen, Warren, and Mayor Schock. Nays: None.
The meeting adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
s/ Diane Robertson September 23, 2009
Diane Robertson, City Clerk Date Approved