HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 20, 1993 COW COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
NOVEMBER 20, 1993
The special Committee of the Whole meeting was called to order
by Mayor VanDeVoorde at 9 :00 a.m. in the Council Conference
Room. Present: Councilmembers Fox, Gilliam (arrived at 9 : 07) ,
Popple, (arrived at 9: 12) , Schock, Walters, Yearman, and Mayor
VanDeVoorde. Absent: None'.
Discussion of Chanqes in the Code Administration Program
Joel Webb, Director of the Department of Code Administration
(DCA) , in his opening remarks stated that when he became Elgin's
Director of Code Administration he was requested to prepare
proposals for changes to the code enforcement ordinance and to
find funding to administer the program changes. He stated that
the staff has been meeting regularly with representatives from
the United Coalition for a Better Elgin, which has also prepared
suggestions for what they would like to see in code
administration.
Rental Property Licensinq Proqram
DCA Director Webb stated that under the City' s current rental
registration program, it receives revenues of approximately
$9,000 . The cost of administering the program is $43,000, and
very little benefit is derived from the program. The staff' s
recommendation is to initiate a rental licensinq program, or
eliminate the current rental registration program. The proposed
licensing program would be an integral part of systematic code
enforcement, which would consist primarily of exterior
inspections . Interior inspections would probably only be on a
complaint basis.
Edna Kruger, 32 Woodland Avenue, member of the Board of the
Elgin Landlords Association, stated that the Board opposes
licensing of rental property, recommends repeal of the current
registration ordinance, elimination of systematic inspections,
return to the complaint-driven inspections, and training for
inspectors .
George Doscher, 220 South State Street, speaking on behalf of
the Elgin Heritage Commission, stated that the Commission has
reviewed the Department of Code Administration's proposals and
believes that licensing of rental property would be an advantage
to landlords in that it would provide inspection of the tenants '
area. Numerous times it is the action of the tenants rather
than the landlord that is the source of the problem.
Robert Butters, General Counsel to the Elgin Area Association of
Realtors, stated that the association supports the comments of
the Elgin Landlords Association and believes the City would be
better off with a complaint-driven program. He questioned
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whether a licensing program with only an exterior inspection is
he cost of administering the program. He also stated
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that the cost of the program will ultimately be borne by the
tenants .
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Charles Treadwell, 975 Street, stated that he has been
interested in city government since 1938, and the secret of good
government in those days was voluntary compliance. He believes
that the conditions in our city should not be the means of
improving the city budget. There are some things we should get
as services for our taxes without additional fees and a drain on
our pockets . He stated that his main point is "Let' s keep it
simple! "
Judy Browne, 636 Park Street, Director of United Coalition for a
Better Elgin, which represents 19 community organizations,
stated that this is a multifaceted problem. People are
literally being "stacked" in houses, abandoned cars are rampant,
there is a lack of enforcement, ordinances are out-of-date, and
there is a healthy dose of judicial inaction and inconsistency
in sentencing. She also stated, "We have to start turning our
attention to quality--not just quantity! " The Coalition is
asking for the following: Systematic and consistent
enforcement; realistic renovation schedules; training of
inspectors; City code improvement (Some codes are not
appropriate for this time and place. ) ; and continued
involvement. The Coalition also wants to start meeting with the
Planning Department. The Coalition absolutely support the
licensing proposal .
Al Cox, 600 Margaret, inquired about one and two-family
dwellings being excluded from the proposed licensing program.
Director Webb stated that those units would continue to be
registered.
Councilman Gilliam stated that he was embarrassed by the
comments made by the Elgin Board of Realtors. He also stated
that if we do what they want, the City will continue to
deteriorate. He supports systematic inspections .
Councilman Schock stated that there are costs involved by not
licensing. There is a very heavy cost when we put 16-19 people
in a building which is meant for a single family, and on which
$2400 is paid in real estate taxes, but 14-15 children are put
into school at a cost to the school district of $5000 per child.
He stated that the landlords and realtors may have legitimate
concerns, but to want to go back to what we did four or five
years ago is to ignore reality. We pay by the poor image that
is projected and the increase in crime. He supports licensing.
Councilman Fox stated that in 1988 the City Council discussed
licensing. After many public meetings, a compromise was
reached. At that time the Council felt that licensing was too
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strong, so it settled for registration. Five years later,
things have not improved, and so now we are back considering
licensing.
Dick DeBoer, 814 Jefferson, has been in real estate since 1971 .
He stated that there are 600 relators in the Elgin Area Board of
Realtors Association, and he is one of a minority who supports
licensing. However, he stated that legal support is needed in
order to do what has to be done to evict undesirable tenants .
Mr. DeBoer stated that in the past it had taken him 96 days to
evict a tenant. He wanted the Council to know that the
realtors ' board knows that this is a multifaceted problem. He
stated, "Give us the tools to get the job done! "
In response to Mayor VanDeVoorde's request that Director Webb
set forth the benefits of licensing, Mr. Webb stated that in
order to obtain a license, the dwelling would have to meet the
minimum standards set down by the Board of Public Health and
American Public Health Association. At any time the standards
fall below, the owner would have time to correct the problems .
It would be a benefit to know that every citizen has a place to
live with minimum standards . It would raise the property values
across the city. There would be a reduction in the crime rate
because of proper occupancy rates .
In response to the request to give landlords the tools to evict
tenants, Director Webb requested that the landlords and realtors
appoint committees to work with his department on the proposed
ordinance to work out possible problems and concerns . Director
Webb also suggested a Tenant School, so that tenants can learn
how to live by the minimum standards .
Councilwoman Yearman stated that the City definitely needs to
get involved in the judicial system if it is taking 96 days to
evict a tenant.
Director Webb stated that most landlords are decent people who
are being victimized by tenants. He also suggested something
like an "uninsured motorist" fund for landlords that are
victimized.
Councilman Fox believes licensing needs to include voluntary
compliance, and that the fees and paperwork be reasonable.
Councilwoman Popple hopes that the groups who were opposed heard
Joel ' s willingness to work with all people and groups . She
hopes they will all support licensing and that their fears have
been alleviated. She supports licensing.
Kathy Ward, 312 South Liberty Street, stated that she has had to
take a tenant to court and has had many conversations with Judge
Grometer concerning tenant eviction. She believes it is being
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looked at. Mayor VanDeVoorde stated that he believes the City
should 9 et involved.
Bob Sites, represents property owners association bordered by
Larkin, McLean, Bypass 20 and Lyle. He expressed his
appreciation for the City' s installing the ROPE program. The
officer has been living in the neighborhood about five weeks,
and the neighbors are already reaping the benefits.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schock,
to direct the staff to prepare a rental property licensing
program. Yeas : Councilmembers Fox, Gilliam, Popple, Schock,
Walters, Yearman, and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
It was recommended that DCA Director Webb meet with the
landlords, realtors, and coalition regarding the proposed
ordinance. Councilwoman Yearman also emphasized meeting with
the judiciary to assist landlords regarding eviction procedures .
Reinspection Fees
Director Webb stated that the department's composite hourly rate
has been established at $30 . If it is necessary to go back out
for a reinspection (not the first inspection, nor the inspection
to determine whether there has been compliance) , but after that,
and if there has been no request for additional time, a
reinspection fee should be charged. In other communities, this
has increased compliance more quickly.
Citation Fee Increase
Housing Supervisor Millikan stated that the citation fee for
'n code violations currently is 10 . If not aid within 10
housing y $ P
days, it increases to $25 . These fees do not cover the cost of
administering the citation program. The department proposes an
initial $25 fee and a $50 late fee if not paid within 10 days .
In that way we are asking the person who creates the problem to
pay for the program rather than it being subsidized by the rest
of the citizens.
Edna Kruger from the landlords association stated they would
oppose both of the foregoing proposals . The City' s goal should
be compliance--not punitive. They have asked for something that
states the landlord/owner is in compliance.
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Walters, to direct the staff to prepare ordinances to provide
for the proposed reinspection fees and to increase the citation
fees as proposed. Yeas : Councilmembers Fox, Gilliam, Popple,
Schock, Walters, Yearman, and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
Councilwoman Yearman requested that a better system than serving
warrants be investigated.
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Handicap Accessibility of Parkinq Lots
Department of Code Administration is responsible for enforcing
Illinois accessibility statutes . These statutes are not always
the same as the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)
requirements. As of 1992, parking lots were to conform to the
Illinois law. We have lots in the City that do not comply.
Director Webb suggested that a permit be required for restriping
a parking lot, and that this be part of the Property Maintenance
Code.
Raleigh Sutton, 125 Vine Street, advised the Council of his
ongoing battle with the Attorney General regarding approximately
400 complaints concerning accessibility.
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman Fox,
to direct the staff to prepare an ordinance as proposed
regarding .compliance with the handicapped accessibility
requirements for parking lots . Yeas : Councilmembers Fox,
Gilliam, Popple, Schock, Walters, Yearman, and Mayor
VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
Adjournment
The Council agreed to hold future meetings to consider the
remaining agenda topics after completion of the budget meetings .
Councilman Fox made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Popple,
to adjourn the meeting. Yeas : Councilmembers Fox, Gilliam,
Popple, Schock, Walters, Yearman, and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays:
None.
Meeting adjourned at 11 : 05 a.m.
December 15, 1993
Dolonna Mecum, City-Clerk Date Approved