HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 10, 1990 COW Committee of the Whole Meeting
January 10 , 1990
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Mayor VanDeVoorde called the meeting to order at 6 :05 p.m. ,
' in the Council Conference Room. Members present : Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Absent : None .
Discussion with John Mullins regarding future development priorities
in the South Grove project .
Mr. Mullins stated that as elected officials the Council must
consider what they expect of the site and what do they feel
the community expects of the site. The City must find the right
developer at the right time and give them a sense they can
j make some money. Tenant opportunities must be identified and
the South Grove site should be defined as part of the downtown.
Mayor VanDeVoorde stated he had been through this process and
the original concept was to purchase 27 acres and have this
site developed a industrial/commercial site. The Council did
not vision this site as residential, but one of the most viable
bids received did include some portion of residences .
The Mayor stated he would not consider any low income housing
for the site and this statement was repeated by Councilwomen
vlan and Shales .
Councilwoman Popple stated the development should be sensitive
to the assets of the river and bike path.
Councilwoman Shales stated there would be nothing wrong with
light industry in a parkland setting.
j Councilwoman Moylan stated commercial nodes and mid-rise quality
residences could be acceptable, but not just residential.
Councilman Walters stated he thought it was realistic to look
at the retain space aspect .
Mr. Mullins stated there is a need to focus the community back
into the downtown area, and that one thing that is missing
is a movie theater. Mr. Mullins cited a successful development
in Dallas , consisting of a movie , restaurants , nightclub and
a small scale shopping mall concept .
Councilwoman Popple stated we need something unique to draw
the people down there. Something that will create excitement ,
attracting the local residents as well as residents from other
communities . It must be something that has not been tr,JcP,:11,
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Councilman Walters pointed out the need for open space so that
the river can be viewed.
Councilwoman Popple stated that the developer should be appraised
that this Council is committed to this project and is willing
to become partners with the developer to rid the blight , improve
the traffic and any other problems within this area.
Councilman Gilliam stated that he had heard most of this before,
but he did agree with the Council comments .
Larry Rice stated that Mr. Mullins will be here for 4 or 5
months , and we should have a planner on hand to move ahead.
A major decision will deal with how far back from the river
should be developed as open space, because this could effect
the placement of Grove Avenue.
Councilman Fox stated the Fox River Task Force is trying to
development a Urban River Plan that would deal with this issue.
Mr. Mullins stated the transportation issue is important and
must be tied into the area, and he hoped to be able to give
the Council more specifics on the project down the road.
Resolution in support of LacDuFlambeau Band of Lake Superior
Chippewa Indians Economic Development Project .
The staff recommendation requested that the Council approve
the subject Resolution at tonight ' s Council Meeting, supporting
the efforts of the LacDuFlambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa
Indians to acquire a property within Elgin and construct a
major conference hotel and bingo center.
Jerry Maulson, TribalGoverning Manager stated the Tribe is
considering the purchase of commercial property within the
City for the purpose of building a complete conference hotel.
The hotel would be in the 300 room size range, with full banquet
facilities .
As a part of the conference hotel, a bingo facility would be
operated. No other gambling would be involved. Tour groups
from beyond Illinois borders can be expected to come to the
facility on a regular basis .
Because the property would be legally held in trust by the
Secretary of the Interior, it would be tax exempt . It is understood
the facility would pay an in-lieu-of tax of some amount , and
would be subject to City amusement tax and hotel tax.
Mr. Maulson stated the bingo operation is conducted 5 days
per week and last year their operation grossed 2 1/2 million
dollars.
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Petition 78-89 - Woodbridge North.
Staff reported the following unresolved issues relative to
this project :
The Petition proposed that the centerline radius on some of
the minor streets be reduced from the required 200 foot centerline
radius to a minimum of a 50 foot centerline radius . A listing
of curves and radii are shown on the attached Woodbridge North
Preliminary Plat .
The Petition is proposing curb line sidewalks and a bike/pedestrian
pathway system to serve private streets in the R-4 District
portion of the development . In some cases the curb line sidewalks
are along both sides of the private streets , and in other cases
along only one side. No sidewalks are proposed round the terminus
of cul-de-sacs or around motor courts . This is a departure
from subdivision ordinance regulations and city policy requiring
sidewalks along both sides of all streets . Curb line sidewalks
and a pathway system were permitted in lieu of sidewalks separated
from the street by a treebank, in the recently approved Highland
Springs Planned Unit Development .
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Council agreed this matter should be continued until staff
can meet with the developer and bring the project back with
their recommendation.
Petition 77-89 - Woodbridge South
The remaining unresolved issue regarding the proposed project
is a difference of interpretation regarding the definition
of an "L" intersection and a curve. The petitioner asserts
that the streets containing curve radii less than the required
200 foot radius are "L" intersections . The Engineering Department
asserts that the proposed curves are not "L" intersections
and require a variation to the Subdivision Regulations .
Council agreed this matter should be continued until staff
can meet with the developer and bring the project back with
their recommendation.
Consideration of accepting easements from Continental Bakery
and Motel 8 for utilities in old Airport Road.
The City Council vacated the old right-of-way of Airport Road
as part of the development of the Airport property. An easement
was retained for all of the utilities in the old right-of-
way with the exception of the Continental Bakery and Motel
8 properties .
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Staff is recommending the Council approve the subject easements .
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales for staff to prepare the necessary resolution for the
recording of the subject easements . Yeas : Councilmen Fox,
Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Nays : None.
Consideration of a change in the restricted parking portion
of the Elgin Municipal Code . Installation of four hour parking
at the bike path parking lot on National Street .
The Planning Department has requested the installation of a
4 hour limit from 8 :00 a.m. , to 5 : 00 p.m. , Monday through Friday
at the subject lot .
Currently commuters are using the lot , parking up to ten hours
daily. The lot was initially intended for use by people using
the bike path. The parking restriction would eliminate use
of the lot by commuters .
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Moylan to approve this parking restriction. Yeas : Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Nays : None .
Consideration of installation of a stop sign at Grand Blvd. ,
and Linden Avenue.
Councilman Walters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Popple to approve the installation of a stop sign on the west
leg of Linden Avenue at Grand Blvd. Yeas : Councilmen Fox,
Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Nays : None .
Consideration of installation of yield signs at the intersection
of Forest Drive and Preston Avenue .
Councilman Fox made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Popple
to authorize the installation of two yield signs on Preston
Avenue at Forest Avenue. Yeas : Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan,
Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
Consideration of a request from the Transportation Department
to change the designated snow routes because of a change in
bus routes by PACE .
Councilwoman Moylan made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Popple to approve the installation of snow route signs associated
with the expanded bus routes . Yeas : Councilmen Fox, Gilliam,
Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays :
None.
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Consideration of a report regarding annexation of surrounded
areas .
Council was provided with a report identifying and describing
unincorporated areas surrounded by city limits .
The proposed 1990 budget for the Planning Department includes
$4 , 500 for professional services required to produce annexation
plats for surrounded areas . This amount should be adequate
to fund the number of forcible annexations that could be incorporated
into the 1990 work program.
Councilwoman Moylan made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales for staff to proceed to pursue forcible annexation consistent
with this report . Yeas : Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan,
Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
Consideration of a request from the Fox River Trolley Museum
regarding electrical service boxes .
This request provides that the City give the Museum the electrical
service boxes at the Woodruff & Edwards Foundry. The Museum
indicates that it maintains liability and worker' s compensation
insurance coverage.
These electrical boxes have no value to the City and would
be destroyed as part of the demolition on this site and staff
recommends approval of this request .
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman Walters
to approve staff' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen Fox,
Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Nays : None .
Consideration of schedule for Council participation in the
Elgin Expo.
Friday 6 :00 to 7 : 30 p.m. Bob Gilliam
7 : 30 to 9 : 00 p.m. George VanDeVoorde
Saturday 10 :00 to 12 : 15 p.m. John Walters
12 : 15 to 2 : 30 p.m. Dan Fox
2 : 30 to 4 :45 p.m. Sue Moylan
Sunday 11:00 to 1: 15 p.m. Cheryl Popple
1: 15 to 3 : 30 p.m. Marlene Shales
Councilman Fox made a motion, seconded by Councilman Walters
to approve the subject schedule. Yeas : Councilmen Fox, Gilliam,
Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays :
None.
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Adjournment
Councilman Walters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Fox
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss personnel, litigation and property acquisition.
Yeas : Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales , Walters
and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
The meeting adjourned at 8 :50 p.m.
Marie Yearma , City Clerk
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