HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 25, 1989 COW Committee of the Whole Meeting
May 25 , 1989
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Mayor VanDeVoorde called the meeting to order at 6 : 35
p.m. , in the Council Conference Room. Members present :
Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters
and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Absent : None.
Consideration of a request for additional water service
from Sleepy Hollow.
Council reviewed the following request :
The Village of Sleepy Hollow would like to add a second
connection to the City of Elgin Water System at the north
limits of the water system on Sleepy Hollow Road and seeks
your approval per Section 3 of the contract .
The Village of Sleepy Hollow would like to increase the
contractural maximum volume of water that Elgin currently
delivers to Sleepy Hollow from 800 ,000 gallons per 24
hour period to 1, 500,000 gallons per 24 hour period per
Section 1 of the contract .
The Village of Sleepy Hollow would like to increase the
maximum rate of delivery from 750 gallons per minute to
1500 gallons per minute per Section 1 of the contract .
A majority of the Council felt this matter should be negotiated
by members of the Elgin staff and one Council member.
Staff is to keep in mind the costly water distribution
study, which was just completed. The Council also indicated
they felt the City of Elgin' s water supply must be adequate
to serve our citizens , before selling water to other communities .
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Fox to appoint Councilwoman Moylan to serve with staff
in negotiations with Sleepy Hollow. Yeas: Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales , Walters and Mayor
VanDeVoorde. Nays: None.
Consideration of a Report Concerning the Paving Conditions
Study.
Council was furnished with a management report providing
street paving improvements by year, with an optimum cost
method.
Consideration of a proposal for a playground in Lord' s
Park.
The City Manager reported to the Council the proposed
equipment in Lord' s Park will be comparable to that installed
at Wing Park. Specifications have been prepared and bids
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will be presented for awarding at the June 28th or July
5th Council meeting.
Consideration of a recommendation to initiate amendments
to the Zoning Ordinance.
Staff furnished the following recommendations to restrict
the establishment of motor vehicle/open sales lots .
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1. Eliminate motor vehicle sales as a permitted use within
a B-3 District . The purpose of this provision is to eliminate
the confusion between motor vehicle sales , which are permitted
within a B-3 District and open sales lots , which are a
special use within a B-3 District . As all motor vehicle
sales involve the outside display and storage of motor
vehicles , the inclusion of such a use as a permitted use
within a B-3 District is in conflict with those provisions
which mandate that any outdoor display and sales requires
a special use permit .
2 . The Zoning Ordinance should be amended to provide that
no outdoor display or sales can be conducted as accessory
use to a principal use. This is prevent the establishment
of a principal use with the inclusion of outdoor display
and sales as allegedly incidental to such principal use.
3 . The definition of open sales lot should be amended
to provide design criteria which should include , but will
not necessarily be limited to, minimum lot sizes and setbacks
from residential areas .
Councilman Fox made a motion, seconded by Councilman Walters
to approve staff recommendations and to proceed to initiate
an application for said zoning amendments. Yeas: Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor
VanDeVoorde. Nays : None.
Consideration of recommended 1992 rates at the Hemmens
Auditorium.
The proposed rates indicate an average increase of 5 . 3%
from 1991 to 1992 .
Councilwoman Moylan made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to approve the proposed 1992 rates for the Hemmens
Building. Yeas: Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple ,
Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde. Nays: None.
Consideration of an agreement with Elgin Academy for maintenance
of Old Main.
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Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Fox to approve the proposed agreement with Elgin Academy,
which provides for the payment by the City to the Academy
in the amount of $950. 00 per year. Yeas: Councilmen Fox,
Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde .
Nays: None .
Consideration of the impact of improvements at Judson
College, on City Facilities .
In the agreement between Judson College and the City when
the water treatment plant was built , the City received
an easement across the Judson property for the water intake
line outflow systems and a roadway. As part of the plant
development , a line providing for temporary overflow from
filter wash water operations was extended part way across
City property and the effluent from roof drains and storm
drainage and the overflow was allowed to follow natural
contours across Judson property.
These contours were not within the easement and have created
a swale across property which is being developed by Judson
for a parking lot for the new facility being built .
Staff states the best alternative would be to cooperate
with Judson in the extension of the street running down
from the water plant to the intake. Providing for curbs
and gutters and a paved street containing the flow to
the point where it is able to enter the natural drainage
within the City's easement .
Staff has requested the Judson engineers to design the
improvements and provide an estimate of cost for our concurence.
The City Manager stated that if the Council approved the
staff ' s recommendations , he would bring back the cost
figures, which he estimated to be between $10 ,000 and
$15 ,000.
Councilwoman Moylan made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to approve the staff recommendations, to have
staff continue to negotiate with Judson. Yeas: Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales , Walters and Mayor
VanDeVoorde. Nays: None.
Consideration of a Report with regard to the River Trail.
Staff furnished the following dimensions of existing bike
paths affecting Elgin:
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In Elgin the width of the bike path right-of-way ranges
from 60 to 150 feet . The paved paths range from 8 to
10 feet in width. The bike path plans for Prairie Street
to National Street indicate the average right-of-way widths
as follows :
North 1/3 - 60 feet
Middle 1/3 - 90 feet
South 1/3 - 150 feet
The paved path itself is 10 feet wide.
From Slade Avenue north to the McHenry County Line, the
average right-of-way is 100 feet and the paved path is
8 feet wide.
The spur being developed by Kane County from the toll
bridge west to the Tyler Creek Forest Preserve has a right-
of-way of approximately 60 feet wide and a paved surface
of approximately 8 feet wide.
Further consideration of Liquor Ordinance Amendment .
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Councilwoman Popple proposed the following changes to
the Elgin Liquor Ordinance, after conversations with Peter
Carlson of the Illinois State Liquor Commission and Virginia
Cassen, Village Clerk of Oak Park:
The Elgin Code would be amended to delete the reference
of 30 as the number of A and AA licenses available. Instead,
the following wording would be substituted:
"No license shall be issued pursuant to the provisions
of this Chaper, except after review by the Liquor Commission
based on specific applications for such a license. After
reviewing .an application for license, the Liquor Commission
shall report its findings and recommendations to the City
Council, stating whether it is in the best interests of
the City to create a license in a particular category
to be granted to the application. If the Council determines
it is in the best interest of the City that such license
be issued, a license shall be created by manedment to
the appropriate subsection and said license shall then
be issued to the applicant . "
Prior to creating a liquor license , there shall be a public
hearing held after due notice, by publication. At such
hearing, both applicant and public may present testimony
as to whether said license meets the following criteria:
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A. Is deemed necessary for the public convenience at that
location; and
B. Is so designed, located, and proposed to be operated
that the public health, safety and welfare will be protected;
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C. Will not cause substantial injury to the value of other
property in the neighborhood in which it is located;
D. Nothing in this code shall permit issuance of any new
license that does not meet the requirements of then current
city codes, in cluding but not limited to Title 9 , Health
& Safety, Title 16 , Building and Construction, and Title
19 , Zoning.
As of current date, no new licenses shall be issued to
stores affiliated with gasoline operations or convenience ,
all-night stores. As such licenses are retired, they
shall cease to exist .
No new AA licenses shall be issued permitting tavern and
package sales. As such licenses are retired, they shall
cease to exist .
Councilman Gilliam (who also attended the meeting with
the Oak Park Village Clerk) stated he felt there were
too many licenses now. He did not mean the present establishments
should be closed down, but the City needs to put a cap
on the future issuance of licenses. Councilman Gilliam
further stated he had a real concern with putting taverns
in residential neighborhoods .
Mayor VanDeVoorde stated some of the Oak Park regulations
were not comparable to Elgin because Oak Park is not a
growing community, as is the case with Elgin.
Councilman Gilliam stated he was aware the proposal would
need to be worked on, and at this stage it was only a
proposal.
Councilman Walters stated he thought the Liquor Commission
should retain the discretion in issuing licenses and he
did not think it was a good idea for the Council to hear
each license application.
Councilman Walters further stated that for the last two
years the Liquor Commission has been looking into zoning,
and compliance with any and all City Codes . This procedure
is done before the liquor license application is considered
by the Commission. The Commission also employs this procedure
when looking at liquor license renewals, which has disclosed
a number of legal non-conforming uses, where a license
has been in place for many years .
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Councilwoman Shales stated she thought the Council should
review all new liquor license applications .
Mayor VanDeVoorde stated the Liquor Commission, now consisting
of Councilmen Fox and Walters , and himself, have not had
the opportunity to meet with Peter Carlson, and they would
like to have Mr. Carlson in for a meeting with them before
any further action is taken on the aforesaid proposal.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Moylan to refer this matter back to the Liquor Commission
for their further recommendations on the proposal submitted
tonight . Yeas: Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple ,
Shales , Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Discussion re 4 :00 A.M. Liquor License.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to terminate the 4 :00 A.M. License as of July
1, 1989.
Attorney Kevin McCarty, representing the Boulevard Tap,
statedthis establishment has improved their building and
lot , they are supporting 20 athletic teams , they are now
participating in the Bassett Program, and have tried to
cooperate with the authorities in everyway. Seventy percent
of their business is from 11:00 p.m. , to 4 :00 a.m. . The
licensee has expended a large investment in the establishment .
Mr. McCarty requested that the Council consider extending
the 4 :00 a.m. , license for at least another year. This
would give the licensee the time to change the format
of his business. The licensee would close at 11:00 p.m. ,
on Sundays and would discontinue promotions on Thursday
nights.
The owners of the Blue Moon requested the 4 :00 a.m. license
be retained for Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights .
Councilman Gilliam stated this late license has not worked
and needs to be eliminated, but he felt the licensees
should be given some notice. Councilman Gilliam further
stated he was not willing to extend the license for a
whole year, but he would consider extending it to January
2 , 1990 .
Councilwoman Shales stated she would be willing to extend
it to January 2 , 1990 , and she would withdraw the original
motion.
Councilman Gilliam stated he would withdraw his second
to the motion.
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Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to suspend the 4 :00 a.m. license as of July 1,
1989 , and to grant a 3 :00 a. .m. license to be in effect
until January 2 , 1990. This license would only be issued
to the two businesses who currently have a 4 :00 a.m, license ,
namely, the Blue Moon Restaurant and Boulevard Tap.
Yeas: Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple , Shales
and Walters. Nays: Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to reduce the late hour license to $600 .00 , which
is half the cost of the original license fee. Yeas : Councilmen
Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales, Walters and Mayor
VanDeVoorde.
An ordinance covering the aforementioned directives to
be prepared for the June 14th Council Meeting.
Consideration of a proposal from the attorney of Max and
Marge ' s with regard to annexation petition 73-88.
Attorney Al Anderson, representing Max and Marge ' s Inc. ,
made the following requests :
That the Council delete the property from the present
annexation petition and allow it to continue its present
operation until such time as the City' s control of the
property is necessary. As demonstrated in the transcript
of the public hearing this establishment has not been
a user of City services nor a burden to the City of Elgin.
That in the alternative, if the annexation must proceed,
have it provide the City would permit the continued operation
of the tavern with a 4 :00 a.m, liquor license for no more
than 2 years beyond the annexation date
Councilwoman Shales stated she would not vote in favor
of granting this license any different terms than were
granted to Elgin ' s two existing establishments .
Councilwoman Moylan made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to proceed with the annexation, granting this
establishment the 3 :00 a.m. , license , which will terminate
on January 2 , 1990. Yeas: Councilmen Gilliam, Moylan,
Shales and Walters. Nays: Councilmen Fox, Popple and
Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Consideration of a recommendation from the Board of Health
with regard to an ordinance regulating smoking.
Councilwoman Popple made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Fox to approve the proposed Ordinance regulating smoking,
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Yeas: Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, and Shales .
Nays: Councilman Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Councilman Fox made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to have this Ordinance effective January 2 , 1990 . Yeas :
Councilmen Fox, Gilliam, Moylan, Popple, Shales and Walters.
Nays : Mayor VanDeVoorde.
Retreat Discussion
Councilwoman Shales furnished a memorandum to the Council,
in which she requested that two items be placed on the
Retreat agenda for discussion: ( 1) Crime and ( 2 ) Traffic.
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Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to
go into Executive Session to discuss litigation, property
acquisition, and personnel. Yeas: Councilmen Fox, Gilliam,
Moylan, Popple, Shales, Walters and Mayor VanDeVoorde .
Nays: None.
The meeting adjourned at 9 : 55 p.m.
Marie Year n, City Clerk