HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983 Committee of the Whole Meeting Committee of the Whole Meeting
January 10, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order on
Monday, January 10, 1983, at 6: 35 p.m. , in the Council Conference
Room of City Hall . Members present : Councilmen Hansen, Schmidt,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent : Councilman Gilliam.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Proposed contract with the Clark Outdoor Spraying Company.
Mr. Nelson stated that at the Council ' s direction the mosquito
control program had been reduced by eliminating the larviciding
treatment of catch basins, which results in a savings of approxi -
mately $2900.00. The staff, pursuant to this direction, negotiated
with Clarke Outdoor Spraying and a proposed contract is on the
agenda for tonight ' s Council Meeting.
Councilman Waters stated that in reading over the proposal there
is no provision for Clarke to notify the City when they will be
making this application, nor is there any provision for them to
report back to the City with any results of the application.
elk Fred Carlson stated that when the application is made depends
upon the weather and in the past Clarke has made a telephone
call to the city advising them of the application. in the past
there has been no follow-up on the effectiveness of the application
but this could be stipulated in the contract.
The Council voted formally on this issue at the Council meeting.
Recommendation to accept a eroposal from Acme Visible Records
for a new photo identification system for the Police Department.
This proposal will consolidate the contents of five different
cabinets into one filing device in one file folder in one location.
The equipment cost is $6,455 .00, plus freight costs estimated at
$650.00 making the total estimated cost $7, 105.00.
Councilman Hansen asked if the fact that the police records were
presently being programmed into the City computer system lessen
the need for this equipment down the road.
Chief Baird stated these files consist of fingerprint cards, arrest
cards, pictures and other information that must be handled manually.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
to approve the purchase of this equipment. Yeas : Councilmen
Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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January 10, 1983
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Change Order No. 4 to the contract with P.B . Verdico, Inc. for
Phase 1 of the ECC Fountain Square Campus Building.
Chuck Cassell of Burnidge, Cassell and Associates stated that his
memo and letter under date of January 4, 1983, summarized the
construction costs to date and the content of Change Order 4.
Mr. Cassell further informed the Council that last summer they
had secured approval from the Council to have both boilers tested.
Subsequently they discovered that the results of this testing was
somewhat less than useful . Mr. Cassell stated that his firm was
going to deduct the cost of this testing, in the amount of $862.00,
from the cost of the project and they would negotiate this item
with the Testing Company.
The change orders todate represent three per cent of the contract
and the construction work for Phase 1 is proceeding on schedule
as required for classes to begin on January 17th.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve Change Order No. 4 in accordance with the Architect ' s
letter and memo of January 4, 1983. Yeas : Councilmen Hansen,
Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. Abstain : Councilman
Waters.
Proposed license agreement with the Chicago and Northwestern
Transportation Company.
Mr. Nelson stated that although this agreement had received the
approval of the Council on the basis that the City would pay
the railroad company $60.00 per year instead of a one time payment
of $600.00, the staff is now pointing out that on each anniversary
date for billing the railroad could revise the agreement . Such
revisions could include an increase in the rate, or they could
ask that the facility be removed.
Gary Miller pointed out that the $600.00 up front would not be
for ten years, but it would be forever and through the years he
had not heard of a case where a municipality had been forced to
remove a facility.
Councilman Hansen stated that he did not understand from previous
discussions that the $600.00 charge was forever, and he would be
willing to support this payment up front.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to table this item to the January 24th meeting in order that the
agreement can be revised to provide for the $600.00 payment. Yeas :
Councilmen Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Water service charges to be levied against owners of vacant land
along the recently improved section of McLean Boulevard.
Mr. Nelson stated that the staff was recommending that an ordinance
be prepared so that the costs for this work may be recovered from
the various property owners. This ordinance would be the same as
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January 10, 1983
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the reimbursement ordinance covering the improvements in Area 1 .
The property owners would not pay under this improvement until
the hooked onto the water service.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to have an ordinance prepared for the January 24th meeting. Yeas :
Councilman Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed lease agreement with the Continental Little League.
Mr. Nelson informed the Council that the proposed lease agreement
had been submitted to Bob Edwards and they indicated their approval
of same.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to place this agreement on the January 24th Council agenda. Yeas :
Councilmen Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Change Order No. 2 and final payment to Contract No. 3 with Gluth
Brothers Construction for the construction of transmission mains.
Change Order No. 2 covers final adjustments to estimated unit
quantities that were installed during the project. The unit
adjustments result in a net increase of $2,814.50 to the contract
amount .
The staff recommendation is to approve the additional $2,814.50,
making the final contract amount $595, 049.50.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
to approve the staff recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen Hansen,
Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Use of former Trykes & Cykes site, 156 South Grove, for bating
cage by teener league.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve the request of Bob Nelson, Manager of the leaner League
to use the premises at 156 S . Grove as a bating practice area.
Yeas : Councilmen Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Use of Slade Avenue Water Treatment Plant for set building by the
Independent Players.
The Council gave their approval for the aforementioned use by the
Independent Players.
Volunteers presentation for assisting homeless Elgin citizens in
the recent flooding.
Mr. Nelson asked permission to have these volunteers present at
the January 24th meeting for recognition of their assistance during
the recent flooding in Elgin. The Council approved same.
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January 10, 1983
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Adjournment
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole meeting and to go into
Executive Session to discuss (a) acquisition of property; (b)
litigation; (c) appointments to boards and commissions and (d)
personnel . Yeas : Councilmen Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 7 : 10 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
February 14, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Verbic on February 14, 1983 at 6:40 p.m. , in the Council Conference
Room of City Hall . Members present : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent :
Councilman Schmidt .
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Proposed contract with Stetson Pools, Inc. to operate the Wing
and Lords ParlZ Po6Ts.
The Council reviewed the proposed agreement and were informed
by the staff that the contract provides that Stetson will
operate the pools this summer, providing managerial and lifeguard
staff, and performing ordinary maintenance such as cleaning and
minor operating adjustments to equipment . The city will do
extraordinary maintenance, such as response to major equipment
failure. In short, the city will be responsible for major
physical plant maintenance and repair.
The Finance Department has analyzed the contract expense and the
city ' s projected associated pool expenses for 1983 against our 1982
actual expenses and has forecast a savings of $ 19, 000.
Mayor Verbic asked what the loss amounted to for last year.
Mr. Nelson stated it was $60, 000, and the Parks and Recreation Board
is currently considering several options to increase this revenue.
They expect to be able to make a recommendation to the Council on
this in early March.
Councilman Hansen asked what department would be monitoring the
performance of the proposed agreement with Stetson.
Mr. Nelson stated that the entire cashiering procedure would be
under the direction of the Finance Department and the balance
of the program would be under the Parks and Recreation Department .
Councilman Castillo asked if this agreement would also cover the
operation of the concessions .
Mr. Nelson stated this would remain separate from the pool operation
and that the same firm who had the concession operation last year
has shown an interest in obtaining the same this year.
Councilman Castillo asked if any injuries occurred during the time
that Stetson was using the facilities for their own gain would the
city be liable for such injuries .
Dan Blondin, Assistant City Attorney, stated any injuries would
come under the city ' s insurance coverage.
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February 14, 1983
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Councilman Waters referred to Article V of said Agreement
which provided for aquatic instruction. Such instruction
program to be at the Manager ' s option. Councilman Waters
stated he would hate to lose this type of program.
Mr. Nelson stated that this program would be subject to the
weather and the attendance at classes .
Councilman Waters also pointed out that he would hope the
Manager would hire the lifeguards and other employees in
Elgin.
Joan Schaffer, General Manager of Stetson Pools stated this
had already been discussed and in most instances they would
be hiring personnel who worked for the city last season.
Mayor Verbic stated the city had been looking for alternatives
in order to reduce the losses and this looked like a step in
the right direction.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Rauschenberger to place this agreement on the February 28th
Council Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request for funds by Messrs . Doug Steensland and Robert Frisch
to underwrite approximately one-half of the cost of four summer
band concerts at Wing Park in 1983 .
Mayor Verbic asked what the attendance was like last year for
these concerts .
Mr. Steensland stated that if the weather is good the attendance
is good and also it does give high school and college students
the opportunity to play.
Councilman Hansen stated that it might be more worthwhile to
sponsor this program than the fireworks .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
to approve underwriting one-half the cost of the four concerts.
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed use of Federal Aid Urban Funds for various roadway
improvement projects, including Phase d Engineering for Big
Timber Road from Randall Road to State Street and a recommendation
to seek engineering proposals to complete preliminary engineering
design work for McLean Boulevard from Larkin Avenue to Bowes Road.
emk Mel Dahl advised the Council that the Federal Government has given
the Kane Urban Council of Mayors approximately $ 1 , 000, 000 in
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February 14, 1983
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additional roadway funds in fiscal 1983 , which must be spent
in fiscal 1983 . The Council will be meeting to prioritize
the projects and Mr. Dahl asked for the Council ' s permission
to submit the following projects:
Five projects, three involving construction and two for Phase
I Engineering. The two projects which involve Phase I
Engineering are Big Timber Road and McLean Boulevard from
Larkin to Bowes Road. The construction projects are the
widening and resurfacing of McLean from Royal to the C & N W
tracks ; the resurfacing and curb and gutter replacement on
Wilcox from South Street to Chicago Street and the resurfacing,
replacement of curb and gutter and storm sewer on Wing Street
from State to Garden Crescent .
Mr. Nelson stated there is $290, 000 in the budget and the
FAUS monies could be matched. It is encouraging to have
this money available to us and the city should take advantage
of this.
Mayor Verbic felt this was a tremendous opportunity and the
staff should proceed.
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters to have the staff proceed to request funds for the
aforementioned projects . Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to accept a proposal from Soil and Material
Consultants, Inc. to conduct materials testing for the Big
Timber Road and National Street Commuter Parking Lot projects .
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters to have this proposal placed on the February 28th Council
Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request from certain employees that the Council adopt the ICMA
Retirement Corporation ' s deferred compensation plan as an
alternative to the current PEBSCO deferred compensation plan.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to offer the ICMA compensation plan to the employees . Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to acquire a telephone monitoring system for
fire and ambulance calls.
Chief Van De Voorde advised the Council that Fire Stations #1 ,
#2 and ##4 have the ability of monitoring incoming fire and
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February 14, 1983
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ambulance calls when they are received by Communications . This
has been a tremendous asset and response time has been
significantly reduced for those companies with the monitoring
capability.
The original installation was at Station #1 and then expanded
to Station #2 and #4. This work was done by Illinois Bell .
When station #2 and #4 were added, the quality of the message
received in the fire stations was materially reduced and we
were told that Illinois Bell could not exand the system to
Station #3 and #5 .
When gathering information for the consolidation of Station
#1 and #3, we found that Scan-Am of McHenry, Illinois, could
not only supply us with an intercom for the new stations, but
they could also provide the ability to monitor incoming emergency
calls at all five of our fire stations .
The Department would agree that an approved item such as fire
hose replacement be deferred for another year so that we might
proceed with this valuable and needed capability. The cost
would be a little more than $6, 000 and we have $8, 200 budgeted
for fire hose. It is a difficult choice to make, but the value
of the monitoring system is extremely important . Time is a
critical consideration in supplying emergency service and this
( system will give us that valuable time.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to authorize the staff to acquire the subject system. Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed parking lot lease with the Elgin Community College
for the parking lot located between Futon and Prairie Streets .
Mr. Nelson stated that the agreement covering the subject lease
was on the Council ' s Agenda for formal vote tonight, and unless
there were questions by the Council no action would be required
at this meeting.
West Dundee Water Agreement
Mr. Nelson stated a further draft of this agreement provided
for the following the changes . West Dundee would like to have
the agreement extended for twenty years to commence in August,
1983. The language relating to the boundary agreement eliminated.
The provision that the agreement did not include West Dundee selling
water to any other community. That West Dundee would have the
right to re-negotiate after twenty years for the 775 gallons
of water.
Mayor Verbic asked if they have the money available for the
pipeline.
Mr. Nelson stated they have indicated they have the money set
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and they are expecting financial help from Homart .
Mr. Nelson stated the staff would try to have the revised
contract language ready for the next Committee of the Whole
Meeting.
The following items were distributed to the Council :
1 . Memo from Ery Jentsch relative to the case involving the
Elgin National Bank, as Trustee, et al . -v- A. Corilla
Rowcliff, et al . (Complaint which sought to subject
otherwise exempt property located in Special Service
Area Two ( Spring Street Parking Facility) to special
service area taxes .
The only further relief in this matter available to the
plaintiffs is to petition the United States Supreme Court
to review the matter. Review is rarely granted and such
a proceeding must be commenced within ninety days.
2. Memo from Ron Zegers relative to plans for using the Fox
River for water supply purposes beginning the week of
February 14th.
emik 3. Police Department annual report .
4. Municipal Financial Health Study of Elgin, prepared by
the Illinois Department of Commerce and Community Affairs
at the Council ' s request.
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to adjourn the meeting to go into Executive Session to discuss
acquisition of property, litigation, appointments to boards
and commissions and personnel . Yeas : Councilmen Castillo,
Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 7: 55 p.m.
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February 28, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Verbic on February 28, 1983 at 6 : 35 p.m. , in the Council
Conference Room of City Hall . Members present : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor
Verbic. Absent : Councilman Waters .
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Public Hearing date for the proposed Comprehensive Plan.
The Community Development Department passed out to the Council
the entire package representing the Comprehensive Plan together
with a brief summary of how the plan should be presented to the
citizens of Elgin.
Renard Jackson, Chairman of the Elgin Planning Commission stated
that his Commission would like to hold a formal hearing on the
proposed Plan on March 16, 1983, at 8 :00 p.m.
Roger Dahlstrom advised the Council they would have ninety days
following the hearing to adopt or reject in whole or in part
the submitted plan.
The Council indicated their approval of the March 16th date
and agreed to make a formal motion of same at the regular
Council meeting .
Illinois Department of Commerce and Community Affairs report
on Elgin ' s Financial Health Report.
Leo Nelson stated that last Fall the Council had asked for such
a report and Richard Rynke from the Illinois Department of
Commerce and Community Affairs, author of said report was present
to go through the report and answer any questions.
Mr. Rynke stated that the data source for the information
compiled in his report came from the City' s annual audit of
statement of revenue and expenditures. Mr . Rynke' s report
covered revenue indicators, expenditure indicators, operational
position indicators, debt indicators and enterprise fund indicators.
In going through his report Mr. Rynke indicated that real estate
taxes had decreased in 1979 and in subsequest years had increased
between 7% and 5%. State Income Tax had declined just one year
and these amounts are determined by population and average about
$ 18.00 per person. Sales tax has declined for the last three
years. Motor Fuel Tax shows a decline. Revenue Sharing Funds
''" shows a decline and intergovernmental income has remained constant.
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Mr. Rynke concluded his report by stating that the report does
not draw conclusions as to the financial condition of Elgin.
The responsibility of actually interpreting the data properly
rests with the municipal officials because they are in a better
position to reach conclusions than individuals outside the
community.
Adjournment of Committee of the Whole Meeting to commence
Regular Council Meeting . - 8: 10 p.m.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Rauschenberger to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting
and commence the regular Council Meeting. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened at 8 :40 p.m.
Review of proposals for survey work associated with the
acquisition of property for the Tyler Creek Detention Facility.
Gary Miller advised the Council he had been contacted by the
firm of Burnidge and Westphal , Inc. , regarding the survey work
for the subject property. They indicated their firm had been
e hired by Burnidge Bros . Farms to survey the properties adjacent
to the Tyler Creek Detention Facility and they could perform
the survey work for the City at a much lower cost since they
were to be in the immediate area anyway.
The Burnidge and Westphal , Inc. proposal amount is $4,821 .00
and a proposal from W. A. Rakow and Associates amounts to
$ 12,460.00. The staff recommends that the bid from Burnidge
and Westphal be accepted.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to place these bids on the Council Agenda for formal action.
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed water purchase agreement with the Village of West
Dundee.
Mr. Nelson stated that Bill Sommers, Mayor of West Dundee, had
received a copy of the latest agreement and he indicated any
changes might be just editorial .
Councilman Castillo asked if the city could not forsee problems
in the future if and when other communities might want to use
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Mr. Nelson stated that the State of Illinois had issued the
permit to Elgin to use the river water and if other communities
were to apply for the same use, he assumed it would be on a
case by case basis and if there were any problems they would
be down river from Elgin.
Mayor Verbic stated that the city would continue the use of
their deep wells because there were some dry years when you
could walk across the river.
Councilman Schmidt stated that the West Dundee Newsletter
indicated they were leaning toward using their shallow wells.
Leo Nelson stated that they have asked to have until August,
1983 to enter into the proposed agreement because they are
still looking into other alternatives.
Councilman Rauschenberger stated that Carpentersville is
operating on their shallow wells and they seem to have adquate
water.
Mayor Verbic stated that if West Dundee goes into this agreement
he could see them becoming dependent on our water supply.
Mr. Nelson stated that if the Council had no further revisions
to the proposed agreement he would meet with West Dundee and
then have the agreement placed on the Council Agenda.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to have the proposed agreement placed on the Council Agenda if
it is found to be satisfactory with West Dundee. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Request from the West Dundee Police Department to have the Elgin
Police Department participate in its second Annual Law Enforce-
ment Appreciation Day at Spring Hill Mall .
Chief Baird pointed out to the Council that there would be no
overtime involved nor any depletion in the regular shifts if
they are allowed to participate in this event.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to approve the aforementioned request. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo,
Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Past Due Water Accounts
The Council reviewed a memorandum from Jim Bolerjack who pointed
out that current economic conditions, increased water consumption,
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folk increased water rates and more consumers would normally increase
the amount of delinquencies in water receivables.
The city maintains an active follow-up on past due water accounts.
Many of our customers have rarely been delinquest and we make
every effort to collect the bills rather than discontinue water
service or file liens against their property. A phenomenon that
is also hampering the collection process is the increased number
of bankruptcies. While we continue to collect on these accounts,
the process takes longer.
As the economy improves the number of delinquent accounts should
decline. In the meantime, the City is collecting a larger
amount of past due penalties as reimbursement for lost investment
income and collection costs.
Status report on the Spring Street streetscape project.
Mr. Nelson stated that a meeting had been held between the
Engineering Department and the property owners. The property
owners were offered the same cost breakdown as the Douglas
Avenue Streetscape, with a payback of ten years.
Gary Miller stated the project would include resurfacing of
streets, curb replacement, trees and paving brick. The
Engineering Department has already received eight agreements
back from the property owners.
Mr. Ally stated the entire project would run around $210, 000
and the city would be ready to bid within six weeks.
Request for use of the Slade Avenue water treatment facility
by the Independent Players group.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Rauschenberger
to approve the aforementioned request. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo,
Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Park Development at the Elgin State Hospital Site.
Mayor Verbic stated that he had recently met with Leo Nelson,
Bob Malm and Phil Bennett regarding the development of the subject
park and he felt very strongly about the way the City of Alton
was developing their park. The Mayor also met with George Burger
and Bob Hoffer relative to setting up a commission made up of
dedicated people who would seek out both money and volunteer
work donations.
Mr. Hoffer and Mr. Burger indicated they would give full support
and the Mayor indicated there was already one donor who did not
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want his name made public at this time.
Mayor Verbic suggested that the Council submit names of people
whom they felt might be interested.
Mayor Verbic felt that if a town like Alton could produce the
park they did, the same could be done in Elgin and it would
relieve the burden on the taxpayers.
Bluff City Cemetery
Councilman Schmidt stated that he had received a call from
Don Sleeman and it would seem that the Legion is ready to
expend some sums of money and they have a project in mind
for Bluff City Cemetery. Councilman Schmidt suggested that
Mr. Sleeman be invited to speak to the Council regarding
this project.
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting and go into
Executive Session. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 26 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
March 14, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Verbic on March 14, 1983 at 6:36 p.m. , in the Council Conference
Room of City Hall . Members present : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent :
None.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Change Order No. 6 to the contract with P.V . Verdico, Inc. for
ECC ' s Fountain Square Campus.
The Council reviewed the subject Change Order which provided
for 15 changes and resulted in a net increase to the contract
of $958,000. 49So.o0
Charles Cassell , architect for the project, stated that the
present status of the project reflected the cost to be $300,000
less than the original estimate.
Mr. Cassell also stated that the contract with Verdico provided
for liquidated damages, and although the contractor did not
complete Phase 1 by January 15th, there was no delay in opening
ECC ' s classrooms and no one was hurt financially. Mr. Cassell
further stated that the contractor has done an exceptional job
and he would ask that the liquidated damages be waived in this
instance.
The Council indicated their approval of Mr. Cassell ' s recommendation,
and agreed to waive the liquidated damage clause in the contract
for Phase 1 .
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to approve Change Order No. 6. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo,
Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None. Abstained: Councilman Waters .
Proposed agreement with Adventures Unlimited for selected
recreation programming services .
The staff advised the Council this firm provides a wide variety
of programs on a contractual basis to cities and park districts.
The idea in employing such a firm is to have their broad base
of offerings available to a community without the local agency
having to expend substantial resources to make the same number
or quality of offerings.
Mr. Nelson stated this firm has programs that we cannot offer
because of lack of equipment or employees. The firm would only
receive a fee when enough people sign up for the programs. The
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City Recreation Department would establish the cost of the
programs and this firm would be paid x amount of dollars for
each person attending a particular program. The programs
would have to pay for themselves .
Phil Bennett stated this proposal had been presented to the
Parks and Recreation Board and they indicated their approval
of same.
Councilman Rauschenberger stated that in reading the newspaper
he had seen an ad for lifeguards by Stetson Pools and yet when
the contract for the pools was awarded to Stetson they indicated
they would keep the help that the city had hired the previous
year.
Jim Aydt stated they have other pools under contract and they
could be hiring help for these other places . Mr. Aydt stated
he would contact Stetson and see what the status is .
Councilman Schmidt asked if any other communities were using
the services provided by Adventures Unlimited.
Mr. Bennett stated they had checked with four park districts
who use these services, namely, Aurora, Lyle, Streamwood and
rm. Hanover Park.
Councilman Hansen asked if there would be any staff labor savings.
Mr. Bennett stated the purpose of the proposal would allow his
staff to expand the offerings without expanding any manpower.
Councilman Hansen stated that he would have a problem with
an outside management coming in and competing with local people,
such as the YMCA.
Mr. Nelson stated that in order to participate in the programs
offered by the YMCA you have to be a member. The city would be
careful not to overlap these programs.
Councilman Hansen stated that he liked the concept but thought
it should be handled so it would not compete with the private
sector.
Councilman Waters stated he would be concerned because this is
a profit making firm and he would hope the community would not
be priced out of participation in the programs because of the
fees.
Councilman Castillo stated he had the same concern and the city
really needed a place for the children to go.
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Mr. Nelson stated the city will still offer other programs,
these programs cannot be offered by the city.
Councilman Castillo stated that was not the impression he
got from reading the memorandum.
Mr. Bennett stated the staff does not intend to drop anything.
The intent was to expand offerings without expanding personnel .
Mayor Verbic stated the city had nothing to lose and we should
try this arrangement to see how it worked out.
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen to have the agreement placed on the next Council Agenda.
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed agreement with the RTA for the continued fundin• of
e Daratransit program operate. .y P us, ncorporate• .
This item is H ( 10) on the regular Council Agenda.
Proposed agreement with the Mid-America Chapter of the American
Red Cross.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to place this agreement on the next Council agenda. Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed agreement with Kane County for the improvement of Big
Timber Road from Route 31 to Randall Road.
Mr. Nelson stated this improvement had been discussed previously
with the Council and the County is interested in participating.
The work would be done in two phases and the city' s share would
be 122%.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Rauschenberger to place this agreement on the next Council
agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request from the Elgin Junior Women ' s Service Club that the
Police Department be authorized to be a co-sponsor with the club
for the purpose of receiving funds for the acquisition of
infant safety seats.
Mr. Nelson stated that this project is being financed by 50%
from the Women ' s Club and 50% by IDOT. The infant seats would
be available through St. Joseph Hospital for rental to those
people who cannot afford to purchase same. The city would not
emb. be contributing any funds nor any time involving police personnel .
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Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve this request and that a letter of appreciation be
sent to the Women ' s Club for asking the city ' s participation
in this project. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Review of our 1983 contribution to NIPC .
Mike Sarro advised the Council that during the budget review
there was considerable discussion as to what the 1983 NIPC
contribution should be. Based upon the 1982 payment, the 1983
estimate presented in the proposed budget was $5100, which the
Council reduced by one-half. Since the actual request is only
$4638, the staff has some question as to the amount the Council
wanted contributed.
Mayor Verbic stated he thought it was the intent of the Council
to contribute $2319, which is one-half of the actual request.
The Council concurred with the Mayor and the staff indicated
they would place this item on the next Council agenda.
Proposal from Motorola, Inc. for radio equipment.
The Council reviewed a memorandum from Mike Sarro which provided
a description of the equipment requested by each department,
current pricing, negotiated amounts and the available funds .
The negotiated amounts reflected a 10% across the board discount
from Motorola ' s current pricing, which is consistent with
previous agreements .
This item is on the regular Council agenda for formal action.
Proposed removal of existing parking restriction for Sherman
Hospital .
The staff advised the Council that Sherman Hospital had requested
they be allowed emergency parking north of the exit from their
parking deck. The Traffic Committee members feel this is a
reasonable request. It will not hamper traffic movement and
it will alleviate a problem for those who use the emergency
room of Sherman Hospital .
Elgin Police Officers will not be able to monitor the use of
this parking space and Sherman Hospital officials have agreed
that their security guards will assume this responsibility.
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen to place this matter on the next Council agenda. Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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Request that the Elgin chapter of the VIP Council of Illinois
"" that the City waive the cost of labor for the 'Council' s two
events scheduled for March 23rd and May 3rd.
Mr. Nelson stated the two events consist of a card party and
an arts and crafts exhibit. In previous years the labor cost
has been waived.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt to waive the cost of labor for these two events .
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Status Report from the Central Elgin Corporation
Jack Shales reported to the Council that Don Wauchope, who
is presently involved in computer systems and word processing
equipment, has accepted an offer from Joseph Spiess for the
purchase of the Penny Building. Mr. Wauchope would use the
first floor for the sale of computer and word processing
equipment and would rent the second floor out.
Mr. Shales stated he is presently concentrating on the Woolworth
Building and contacts have been made with Walgreen' s because
they are once again placing their stores in downtown areas.
flow The Council was also furnished with a written report from
Harry Seigle, Secretary of Central Elgin Corporation, which
report reflected a distillation of the major efforts and
activities of CEC since January, 1982.
Unfinished medical building on Airlite Street
Councilman Hansen stated that he had received several calls
regarding this building and it was pointed out to him that
in it ' s present condition it could be regarded as a hazard.
Mr. Hansen if anything was being done by the city to
eliminate this situation.
Counsel Jentsch stated that the developers of the medical
building had been tied up in the courts for several years
and it was his understanding some settlement had been reached
and construction could be completed within the next couple
of months.
Capital Improvement Program
Councilman Hansen requested that this project be placed
on the Council agenda after the April election.
Committee of the Whole Meeting recessed for the regular meeting
of the Council - 8 : 1O p.m.
ew Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to recess the Committee of the Whole Meeting and go into the
regular Council Meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
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Page 6
Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened at 8 :35 p.m.
Consolidated Fire Station
Mr. Nelson stated the staff was at a point where they needed
some direction because he felt the city would soon be bombarded
by architects who would be interested in the project. Mr.
Nelson asked the Council if they would prefer to stay with
a local architect .
Councilman Schmidt stated he would like to see at least
two from outside Elgin and four from the Elgin area, with
experience in the development of a fire station.
Councilman Hansen stated he would like to see four and four
proposals from firms within Elgin and outside Elgin.
Mr. Nelson stated the staff would ask for a proposal and
fee structure and Chief Van De Voorde could investigate
firms who have designed other stations.
Dedication of Riverside Water Treatment Plant
C Mr. Nelson advised the Council the dedication will be held
on Saturday, April 9th commencing at 9:30 a.m. A tour is
scheduled followed by a luncheon. Tom Corcoran is the
speaker and a open house will follow.
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into
Executive Session to discuss acquisition of property, litigation
and appointments to boards and commissions. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at
9 :00 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
March 28, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order on
March 28, 1983 at 6 :40 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room
of City Hall . Members present : Councilmen Castillo, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters. Absent : Mayor Verbic.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Summary of the Comprehensive Plan.
Renard Jackson, Chairman of the Planning Committee, stated
that the Council had been furnished with a Summary of the
Comprehensive Plan, minutes of the public information meetings,
transcript of the public hearing and other related materials,
and he was present tonight to answer any questions the Council
may have. Mr. Jackson also pointed out to the Council that
they would have until June 14th to either reject the Plan or
act upon it.
Councilman Rauschenberger asked if the requests from the
Sanitary District had been taken into consideration.
Roger Dahlstrom stated these have been incorporated into this
document.
Councilman Hansen asked if it would be fair to say that the
Planning Commission, Sanitary District and the Community
Development Department were in agreement on the proposed Plan.
Roger Dahlstrom stated yes .
Councilman Waters asked Mr. Jackson if after all the various
sessions this document represented his final determination.
Mr. Jackson stated yes .
Councilman Gilliam felt a special meeting should be scheduled
just to discuss the summary Plan.
Mr. Nelson asked if the Council wanted to wait until after the
election for such a meeting.
Councilman Rauschenberger stated that he had about eight questions
to raise concerning the Plan.
Councilman Waters stated that since a new Council will be
implementing the Plan, they should also be a part of approving
said plan, and it would seem more appropriate to wait until after
the election.
Councilman Hansen stated that at the time the appointments were
made to the Council , the Council had agreed that any major issue
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would be put off until after the election. Mr. Hansen further
stated that he would still be interested in hearing Councilman
Rauschenberger ' s questions.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to delay the meeting on the Plan until the new Council was
seated. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Hansen, Schmidt and Waters .
Nays : Councilmen Gilliam and Rauschenberger.
Recommendation to remove parking meters in front of 310 and 321
Division Street.
The Council reviewed a staff recommendation to remove 2 meters
at 310 Division and 1 meter at 321 Division Street . These 3
meters serve a minor protective role, so the impact on parking
revenues will be negligable.
Mr. Nelson stated that the neighbors are in favor of the
removal , although one of the disadvantages is other people
will park there.
Jeff Holmgren, who resides at 304 Division Street, stated that
he is unable to park in front of his residence without putting
money in the meter, and his neighbor who was unable to be present
tonight has the same problem. Mr. Holmgren suggested that these
meters be removed also.
Mr. Nelson pointed out that this might not solve the problem
because someone else may park there.
Mr. Holmgren suggested that the meters be removed and a parking
permit be issued to the resident, with signage that resident
only parking was allowed in this area.
Mr. Nelson stated that this arrangement would not be enforceable.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
directing the staff to prepare an ordinance for the removal of
4 meters west of Tennyson Ct. , on the north side of Division,
and 1 meter west of Tennyson Ct. , on the south side of Division.
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Schmidt and Waters. Nays : None.
Proposal to amend the Human Relations Ordinance and final approval
of a cooperative agreement with the State Human Rights Department.
The Council reviewed the proposed amendments and Walter Blalark,
Human Relations Coordinator, stated that he had received a letter
from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which
indicated that the present ordinance is not equivalent to the
federal laws (Title VIII ) because of the language difference
between our ordinance and the Title VIII 1968 fair housing laws.
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Page 3
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
authorizing the staff to prepare an amended ordinance and place
this and the Cooperative Agreement with the State Human Rights
Department on the April 11th Council Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters.
Nays : None.
Recommendation from the Park Board that the City enter into an
agreement with the Elgin Public Museum Inc. for the operation
of the Lords Park Museum.
Nancy Epping, current manager of the Museum and several members
of the Museum Advisory Board, proposed to the Council that
The Elgin Public Museum Inc. , would like to enter into a contract
with the City of Elgin to take over the general operation of
the Elgin Public Museum.
Phil Bennett advised the Museum operation and maintenance costs
for 1982 were about $ 15, 700 and under this proposal from the
Board the city' s obligation would be roughly $ 12, 000, or a
savings of $3, 700. More importantly an enthusiastic, well
organized group of volunteers could be on their way to total
operation and support of a very fine public facility.
The Park Board has considered this proposal and recommends it
to the Council for its approval .
Councilman Hansen stated this looked like a positive step and
he liked the volunteer basis.
Mr . Nelson asked the Council if they would like to have the
agreement brought back to them in final form.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
authorizing the staff to draft an agreement and bring it back
to the Council . Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters. Nays : None.
Recommendation from the Park Board to replace the season pool
passes with a discount coupon system.
Mr. Nelson stated this matter had been discussed with the Council
previously during the negotiations with Stetson Pools Inc. The
Park Board felt that eliminating the season pass and implementing
the coupon book system to be the most economical procedure. Mr.
Nelson further stated that he had talked with people who did
not like the system but in talking with season pass holders from
last year they did admit this system would be more equitable.
Councilman Hansen stated that in view of the $58, 000 loss from
last year this was worth a good try.
Councilman Waters stated he had some concern with the proposal
because last year the season pass for a family of two was $40.00,
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with $ 1 .00 additional for each additional family member. This
coupon system will have some families paying considerably more
than they have in the past and we could be pricing the larger
families out. Mr. Waters said he would like the staff to develop
some kind of family package.
Mr. Nelson and Mr. Bennett pointed out that in the past the city
had problems with parents signing up neighborhood children as
their families to get more use from the passes . The city
institued a photo identification system last year to verify
the swimmers, which worked well but was an expensive item.
Mr. Nelson stated that he did not think the low income families
were the purchasers of the season passes.
Councilman Hansen stated that he agreed with Mr. Waters ' concerns
but on the other hand the city is providing the swimming and
lifeguards for about 62 , which amounts to playing a video game.
Councilman Rauschenberger asked how a family package would be
monitored.
Councilman Waters suggested staying with the photo system.
Councilman Rauschenberger stated the staff has said this was
expensive and we are trying to reduce the $58, 000 lost last year.
Mr. Bennett stated he could not give actual figures on the cost
of the photo identification system.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve the Park Board' s recommendation for a coupon system.
Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger and
Schmidt. Nays : Councilman Waters .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
directing the staff to prepare a proposal for $60.00 per year
for a family pass in addition to the coupon system. Councilman
Castillo asked that the staff also bring back the costs for the
photo identification system. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters. Nays : None.
Review of the proposed street improvements on Alfred from a point
south of Demmond to Wing Street and on Demmond between Aldine and
Wing Park Boulevard.
Mr. Nelson reminded the Council that this project was brought to
the Council because Wally Rakow, who was a resident in the area,
had secured over one-half resident signatures indicating they
approved participating in this improvement.
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Page 5
Gary Miller stated that his department had completed the design
work for the project which includes curb and gutter, new pavement
and storm sewer.
The breakdown of costs for these improvements is as follows :
Property Owners $ 157,653
Public Benefit 29, 222
Total Cost $ 1b6,875
The average cost of the project is approximately $4,600 per
property owner.
Mr. Miller stated he would like to be able to schedule a meeting
with the property owners to explain the details of the agreement
and have them signed.
Mr. Nelson stated that even though we have the signed petitions
there may be some objectors and should the city be prepared to
tell them that if they do not go along on the voluntary basis
the project may become a special assessment.
Councilman Hansen stated that at least one-half of the residents
should be on board, they have to make that judgment. The staff
should sell them on the cheaper cost of doing it on a voluntary
basis and find out how many are willing to go along with it.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
for the staff to proceed to negotiate the agreements for this
improvement. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters. Nays : None.
Review of a water main project along Dixon Avenue from St.
Charles to Cookane, north along Cookane to Bluff City Boulevard,
and east on Bluff City Boulevard to Ludlow extended.
Gary Miller informed the Council the Engineering Division has
completed the construction plans for this project. The estimated
cost for this project is $211 , 151 .32, and includes the cost of
in-house design and construction inspection.
Permits for this work are in the approval stage with the Division
of Water Resources . The Illinois Environmental Protection Agency
permit was just received and we expect all permits within the
next 30 days. After the permits are received, we will proceed
with the bidding for the creek crossing and pipe.
Mr. Nelson stated this was merely a status report to the Council
on the project.
Committee of the Whole Meeting recessed to go into the regular
Council Meeting - b :05 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened - 8 :56 p.m.
North End Bridge
The Council was furnished with Progress Report No. 12.
Status Report on the City ' s current medical insurance program.
The Council was furnished with a report prepared by the Personnel
Department reflecting the expenditures and percent changes in
medical insurance costs from the current and prior budget years.
Mr. Nelson stated the insurance committee would be looking into
other cost savings medical programs.
Report relative to the staffing of the Lord and Wing Park Pools
by Stetson Pools, Inc.
This report was prepared by Jim Aydt in response to concerns raised
by the Council in response to an ad placed by Stetson Pools for
lifeguards .
Contact was made with Joan Schaffer regarding the hiring process as
it related to last year' s staff and the ad.
Mr. Schaffer stated that last year' s staff will be considered not
only for the Elgin pools but for the staffing of other pools or
services managed by Stetson. The ad had been placed because
in addition to the Elgin pools they staff 12 other pools ; provide
a substitue guard service and they conduct swim lessons at several
other pools.
Mrs. Schaffer will provide the city with a report as to the placement
of last year' s staff when this has been completed the latter part
of April .
Resolution of appreciation to members of the Planning Committee
Councilman Waters stated that he had asked that this resolution
be prepared and placed on the Council Agenda because he felt that
this Committee had made a significant contribution of their time
and expertise in the development of the Comprehensive Plan.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to send each member listed in the resolution a copy of same. Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt
and Waters. Nays : None.
Law Enforcement Accreditation Program for the Elgin Police Department
Chief Baird informed the Council that Elgin has been slected as one of
five test sites in the nation for accreditation of law enforcement
eft agencies. The purpose of the testing is to determine what nationally
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accredited standards will be applied to departments nationwide
and the net effect would be to improve efficiency, reduce burglaries
and increase apprehensions of suspects.
Contract No. 2, Section I River Intake
The Council reviewed a cost estimate from Ziegler to furnish two
additional differential pressure switches in the screen and wetwell
bubbler cabinet at the River Intake. The cost of the work is
estimated at $3,800. The two alarms are necessary to monitor ice
build-up and/or trash build-up across the rotating bar screens.
Councilman Rauschenberger asked why this was not done when the
plant was built.
Gary Miller stated he believed it was an oversight .
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve the above change order. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo,
Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters. Nays : None.
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss acquisition of property, litigation, and
appointments to boards and commissions. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters.
Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 10 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
April 11 , 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at 6 :40
p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall . Members
present: Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent : Councilman Schmidt.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Recommendation from Speer Financial , inc. for approval of a
comfort resolution in favor of Universal Chemical and Coatings,
Inc. , for the issuance of industrial revenue bonds.
The Council reviewed a recommendation from Speer Consultants
dated April 4, 1983, which could make the financing acceptable
if a letter of credit was provided from a reputable financial
institution which would provide a guarantee of timely payment
of principal and interest on the bonds .
Universal has made arrangements for such a letter of credit
from the First Wisconsin National Bank of Milwaukee. As of
June 30, 1982, the First Wisconsin reported total assets of
$3.5 Billion and combined capital , surplus, and undivided profits
of $ 182 Million.
eft Allan Carroll of Carroll Financial Group, representing Universal
Chemical , stated that this project may go as high as $4 Million
and no bonds would be sold until the letter of credit is issued.
Counsel Jentsch stated that the resolution authorizing the
Memorandum of Agreement is on tonight ' s Council Agenda and said
resolution provides for not exceeding $4 Million in revenue bonds
and the Agreement is subject to receipt of the letter of credit.
Mayor Verbic asked if the bank will guarantee the bonds that
will be issued.
Council Jentsch stated this was correct and he had no problem
with the foregoing terms .
The Council agreed to act upon the resolution at the Council
meeting.
Recommendation from the Parks Board to offer season swimming
pool passes.
The Council reviewed a recommendation from the Park' s Board that
we sell family only Photo I .D. Season Passes at $75 .00, that they
be sold on 2 Saturdays only, the dates and times to be established
by the staff.
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Marilyn Burge of 871 Highland stated that coupons will encourage
people who are only occasional users of the pools to come more
often, but for those who use the pool a lot, larger families, or
single parent families using coupons would mean not being able
to go nearly as often.
Mrs. Burge suggested the following fee schedule:
Families $50.00
Children 25.00
Adult 35 .00
Councilman Waters stated that he had no problem with a $60.00
family pass, but the staff should publicize the fact that these
passes would only be sold on 2 Saturdays from 9:00 A.M. until
4 :00 P.M.
Mayor Verbic asked if the staff had any figures yet on the
photo I .D. cost.
Phil Bennett stated it averaged about 94 per card and most of
this is the cost of labor.
Councilman Gilliam stated that he could live with the $60.00
pass.
Councilman Hansen stated he also could live with $60.00 but he
wondered what the Park' s Board rational was in recommending
$75 .00.
Phil Bennett stated they wanted to reduce the costs and encourage
the coupon use.
Mrs. Gross stated the city is asking for a 50% increase and
since this is a program for children it should be subsidized.
Councilman Castillo made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to offer the family pass for $60.00. Said passes to be sold on
two Saturdays only and a notice reflecting same be placed in
the newspapers . An Ordinance providing for these changes is
to be prepared for the next Council Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Mr. Nelson stated the staff would also send out notices to last
summer' s season pass holders .
Recommendation to accept the proposal for Phase 1 Engineering
for South McLean Boulevard from Larkin Avenue to Bowes Road.
Seventy-five percent of the project cost ($25,858.83) will be from
FAU funds through the Kane Urban Council of Mayors . The twenty-
five percent share by the City ($8,619.61 ) will come from the
resurfacing program.
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A request for proposals was sent to four engineering firms and
the staff is recommending the firm of Hampton, Lenzini & Renwick
to complete the work at a cost of $34,478 .44.
Councilman Hansen noted that each firm that was contacted had
asked the city to furnish different information and he wondered
if this made any difference in the cost .
Mr. Nelson stated that the city has aerial photographs, traffic
counts and field surveys available so there would be no additional
work in this area.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to direct the staff to place this proposal on the next Council
Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to accept the proposal for Phase 1 Engineering
for North McLean Boulevard from Royal Boulevard to the Chicago
and Northwestern railroad tracks .
Seventy-five percent of this project cost ($4, 125) will be from
FAU funds through the Kane Urban Council of Mayors . The twenty-
five percent share by the city ($ 1 , 375) will come from the
resurfacing program.
The staff advise that again proposals were sent to four engineering
firms and the staff recommends the firm of Hampton, Lenzini &
Renwick to complete the work at a cost of $5 , 500.00
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to direct the staff to place this proposal on the next Council
Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Status report on the proposed bus station facility on the west
side of the Fox River between Highland Avenue and Chicago Street .
Mr. Nelson stated this report was just a matter of information
and although all along our people have been told there would be
no problem with funding, now that the project is ready to bid,
the RTA has advised there is a shortfall in approved funding
for the facility .
The RTA further advised that additional funds have been programmed
in Fiscal Year 1983 and a grant application will be submitted within
the next few weeks to the federal and state governments for additional
funding. Although they are proceeding to go out for bids, awarding
of a contract will have to wait until full funding is approved.
Mr. Nelson stated they may ask the city to go to the Kane County
Council to seek some of the gas tax money to meet the construction
cost of this facility.
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Change Order No. 1 to the contract with Ryan Inc. for the lime
residue lagoon project.
The staff advised the Council the proposed change order contains
two items with a total decrease of $3,080.00 in the contract
amount, and it will decrease the total amount of Contract No. 3
from $861 ,000 to $857, 920. The change order also includes a
time extension to the project .
The Council requested that this item be placed on the next
Council Agenda.
Award of approximately $ 165, 000 from the Department of Conservation
for the artial develo ment of the softball facility at the Elgin
Menta Hea t Center site.
The staff advised the Council that as a result of the jobs bill
the Conservation Department notified the city we had been awarded
$ 165,000 based on an amendment to the city ' s initial application
for funds to develop the State Hospital ball fields.
Mr. Nelson stated the city had also been told they might be
considered for another grant in July if we could scale the grant
application down. Receipt of these funds is based on our ability
to match the grant and complete the work by October, 1984.
Mr. Nelson suggested that in order to match the funds the city
could use the $ 105, 000 in federal revenue funds put aside to
convert the city fleet to natural gas and by the next meeting
the staff could advise the Council where the balance might come
from.
Mayor Verbic stated he thought this might be a good start to
obtaining the ball fields about which the city had so many
complaints, and he would concur with using the $ 105,000 for
this project because of the way the natural gas prices are rising.
Councilman Waters stated he was not ready at this point to give
up on changing the fleet to natural gas .
Councilman Hansen stated he shared Councilman Water' s reluctance
to give up on the fleet conversion and felt it only reinforces
that all capital projects be prioritized before making fifty
cercent commitments if we happen to get two grants.
Mr. Nelson stated we could take this one and stop. If we don' t
act on this one they may give it to someone else.
Councilman Gilliam stated we should go ahead with it because we
have made a commitment to the Elgin Health Center and we should
take advantage of any costs that could be defrayed.
Councilman Hansen stated he would be opposed to this because he
has always been opposed to a 400 acre park at an estimated cost
of $3 Million and in addition the maintenance and operating costs .
The Council has never looked at this as a total impact on capital
resources .
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April 11 , 1983
Page 5
Councilman Waters stated he felt there was a great need for
these facilities in the community, we should accept this grant,
apply for the second grant in July, and the staff should invite
the officers of the baseball leagues to help with the planning
and possible additional revenue.
Councilman Waters felt it was premature to think about the total
impact cost of the entire project at this time.
Councilman Hansen asked if the staff was aware of any additional
funding.
Phil Bennett stated the league members have said they would be
willing to help construct the diamonds, providing cash, labor,
which can all be counted as in-kind contributions.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Castillo
to accept the proposed grant. Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Hansen.
Status report on the Wing Street project from Route 31 to Weston.
Gary Miller informed the Council that when the city was informed
by the Kane Urban Council of Mayors that money would be available
for miscellaneous street improvements initial field work was done
on Wing Street as a simple resurfacing job with an estimated
cost of $400,000.
The City has now been advised that in order to qualify for federal
money the following would have to be addressed:
Three intersections along Wing Street (McLean Boulevard, Garden
Crescent Drive and State Street require a capacity analysis,
which is usually performed by a traffic engineering consultant .
A survey is necessary to determine if the existing street lighting
meets current Federal standards.
The C. & N.W. Railroad grade crossing, just west of State Street
will have to be improved with a rubberized material . Also the
warning signals for the tracks should be upgraded.
The staff is unable to proceed with the project in-house due to
the additional work as outlined above. The options include the
services of a consultant, or simply drop the project. The staff
recommends that a request for proposal be prepared such that
engineering proposals could be reviewed and then the city could
decide to proceed with Phase 1 Engineering Studies (with 75%
Federal participation) or drop the project.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Castillo
to authorize staff to request proposals for engineering . Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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April 11 , 1983
Page 6
Mr. Nelson distributed the following for the Council ' s
information:
1 . Annual natural gas usage report for 1982 for the City
Hall and Hemmens Building.
2. City' s Youth Soccer Brochure for the Spring Program.
Adjournment
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting and go into
Executive Session to discuss personnel , Boards and Commissions,
Litigation and Acquisition of Property. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 7 :55 p.m.
Marie Yearma , City Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
April 25, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at 6: 35
p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall . Members
present : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger,
Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent : None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff.
Change Order No. 1 to the contract with Irving Construction
Company.
The Council reviewed the proposed Change Order and Mr. Nelson
stated that Chuck Cassell was present to answer any questions
the Council may have.
Included in the proposed Change Order, revision of the ceiling
treatment in Classrooms 2, 3,4 & 5, from exposed ductwork and
pendant lighting to a new lay- in ceiling system with recessed
lighting. This change also includes a change in the type of
insulation specified.
The construction contract requires that the General Contractor
provide a temporary meter and pay for the electrical power used
during the construction. Due to the unanticipated, high cost of
the temporary metering, it is recommended that this requirement
be eliminated, and that the General Contractor pay ECC $500.00
for the power used during construction.
The electrical engineer has suggested that the fluorscent fixtures
in Classroom #1 and Single Skills Labs #1 and 2 be changed from
the standard 4 lamp to 2 lamp fixtures .
The contract sum will be increased by this Change Order $4, 512.00
and the new contract sum including this Change Order will be
$727, 362.00.
This Council took no action because this item appears on the
regular Council Agenda for approval .
Proposals for work to be completed at FCC ' s Fountain Square
Campus.
The Council reviewed the following proposals for work in addition
to the construction contract :
Ricter Awning Company - $5, 226.00
This work was originally part of the Phase 1 construction contract
but was deleted by change order so that the installation of the
awnings could be deferred until completion of the Phase 11 window
replacement .
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April 25, 1983
Page 2
Automatic Fire Systems, Inc. - $ 11 ,444.00
This proposal includes the sprinkler work necessary to complete
the system for the second floor of the north wing which was
installed as a part of Phase 1 . This work was not included in
the Phase 11 bidding to avoid having two sprinkler contractors work
on the same system which would negate the guarantee.
Councilman Schmidt pointed out that it would make good sense not
to have to awnings installed until after the streetscape work
was completed because of the amount of dirt and dust that would
be created.
Mr. Cassell stated this was a good point and he would talk with
the contractor regarding this matter.
The Council approved the foregoing proposals .
Well motor repairs and replacements .
The Council reviewed a recommendation from Ron Zegers to proceed
with the following well repair expenditures :
Well 5A $29, 123
Well 3A 9,493
Well #6 including rebuilt motor 37, 141
Spare Motor and Pump 19, 296
$95, 053
Councilman Hansen asked if there would be a maintenance problem
with the wells out of service.
Mr. Zegers stated that by using river water the production from
the wells will be reduced, and there should not be any problems .
Councilman Rauschenberger made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen to approve Mr. Zeger ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
An Ordinace creating a Park and Reclamation Commission.
Mayor Verbic stated that this ordinance spells out what is needed
to get this project going. The Commission will advise, assist and
recommend policy guidelines to the Council for the reclamation
and development of this park land. The appointments to this
Commission can be discussed later in Executive Session.
Councilman Waters asked if it was the Mayor ' s intent to act as
m. Chairman of the Commission.
Mayor Verbic indicated this was his intent because he thought
this would establish better communications, which is very important
to other Council members .
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April 25, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Hansen stated that his position on the park re-
development had not changed because he felt that the city
had embarked upon this program without any financial plan
and now they were ready to go into a financial feasibility
plan, without knowing what the city ' s contribution would
have to be.
Mayor Verbic stated the city must act quickly in order to
qualify for the grant programs .
Councilman Hansen stated he thought the idea of the commission
was fine but a hurried plan is not always the best plan and
there is no free lunch.
Mayor Verbic stated that he agreed with Councilman Hansen but
he felt the grants were necessary as a stimulus to the project.
Councilman Schmidt stated he hoped this project would not get
bogged down like the Old Main did.
Councilman Waters stated that he was encouraged to see these
people who have come forward and he was looking forward to
working with the commission and the development of this park.
The Council agreed to act formally on this ordinance at the
regular Council meeting
The Housing and Community Development Block Grant Hearing
Committee ' s recommendations for 1983.
Councilman Gilliam stated that he thought this discussion
should be brought before the new Council .
Mr. Nelson stated the Council would not have to make a decision
tonight, but a decision would have to be made on May 9th and
the new Council might want to consider a special meeting.
Mayor Verbic stated that this matter will require a lot of
questions and discussion and the Council might want to set
up a special meeting for this purpose.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Rauschenberger to postpone discussion on this matter until
May 9th, when the new Council would be seated. Yeas : Councilman
Gilliam and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen Castillo, Hansen,
Rauschenberger, Schmidt and Waters .
Councilman Castillo stated that he had a question to ask of the
Chairman of the HCD Block Grant Hearing Committee. Mr. Castillo
stated that the notice for the first public hearing stated it
was at this time proposals from individuals and groups would be
heard and the Committee closed this hearing by stating that no
further proposals could be submitted after the April 4th hearing.
Mr. Castillo stated it was his understanding that a proposal was
submitted and accepted after the April 4th hearing.
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April 25, 1983
Page 4
"'' Margaret Krueger, Chairman of the HCD Hearing Committee stated
that she would defer that question to Roger Dahlstrom.
Roger Dahlstrom stated that he had contacted each of the
Committee members by telephone and had asked them if they
would be willing to accept the late proposal from the Elgin
Housing Authority providing for emergency housing sites . Mr.
Dahlstrom stated that each member indicated they would be
willing to do this .
Councilman Castillo stated there were other groups who wanted
to come in but could not because they were unable to prepare
their proposals by the deadline set by the Hearing Committee.
Committee member Ed Schock told the council the late proposal
was accepted because of its apparent need and because the deadline
was not legally binding but had merely been set by the committee.
Councilman Rauschenberger stated that either you have rules or
you don ' t have them.
Attorney Jerry Braska stated that he was told the proposal could
be submitted because it was for emergency housing .
Joan Abram, of the Elgin Housing Authority, stated the request
r for funding came from a need for emergency housing in Elgin. At
the present time there are no facilities for this type of housing
and many times people have to be referred to Aurora.
Mayor Verbic stated that this type of funding would be a deviation
from prior years , when these funds have been used for capital
expenditures . The Mayor stated that in July the Job Plan Program
would be implemented and the Elgin Housing Authority should be in
a position to ask for a grant.
Ms . Abram stated that the Job Plan Program would not help because
this provides for an expansion program of existing facilities and
not the establishment of a facility.
Councilman Castillo stated that the Council in the future should
review all the city commissions to make sure they are responsive
to the Elgin people because it looks like the community development
block grant program is turning out to be an arm of the United
Way. Each year more come in to be considered, taking money from
the Neighborhood Housing Services to give to agencies who have
other avenues of revenue. Low income families can ' t get money
for housing rehabilitation any other way.
Mayor Verbic thought perhaps the Council should set a special
meeting for discussion of this matter.
'' Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
for the Council to hold a special meeting on May 4, 1983, at
7: 00 p.m. , to discuss the foregoing matter. Yeas : Councilmen
Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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April 25, 1983
Page 5
Proposed agreement with Charles H. Schrader & Associates for
grant writing services .
Councilman Hansen stated that he was still opposed to sending
tax dollars to Springfield and Washington and then hiring somebody
to get it back.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to have staff prepare a resolution authorizing the agreement
with Schrader & Associates . Yeas : Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam,
Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Hansen.
Abstained: Councilman Rauschenberger.
Committee of the Whole Meeting recessed to go into Executive
Session. 7: 58 p.m.
Councilman Castillo made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Rauschenberger to recess the Committee of the Whole Meeting
and go into Executive Session to discuss acquisition of property,
litigation and appointments to boards and commissions . Yeas :
Councilmen Castillo, Gilliam, Hansen, Rauschenberger, Schmidt,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened - 9: 12 p.m.
Police Awards Presentation
Chief Baird asked the Council ' s permission to make award
presentations to men in his department at the May 9th Council
Meeting and the Council indicated their approval of same.
Letter from Ted Clark, the City ' s Labor Relations Attorney,
regarding various collective bargaining bills currently being
discussed in Springfield.
The Council reviewed a memorandum prepared by Mr. Clark which
set forth the provisions of three bills which have been
introduced during the current session of the General Assembly,
and deal with public sector collective bargaining.
Senate Bill 536 - a comprehensive bill sponsored by Senators
Collins, Dawson, Smith, and Rock that would cover the entire
Illinois public sector.
House Bill 1530 - a bill sponsored by Representatives McPike,
McCauley, Stuffle, Greiman and Bullock that would cover the
entire educational sector.
House Bill 767 - a bill sponsored by, among other, Representatives
Marovitz and Stuffle that would cover "peace officers" employed by
all units of state and local government.
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April 25, 1983
Page 6
elm Mr . Clark stated that two of the three bills discussed in the
memorandum would have a direct impact on the City of Elgin.
Bill 536 is a comprehensive act which would cover all public
employers in the State of Illinois, including the City of Elgin.
Bill 767 would cover the police department and provide for
compulsory arbitration, among other things .
Councilman Hansen stated that the city' s concerns over these
proposed bills should be made known to our legislators .
Councilman Waters stated that the Illinois Municipal League
may have additional information and it might be well to know
what their position might be.
Mr. Nelson stated that the League has constantly opposed
collective bargaining, but up to now they have not been able
to offer any substitution.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
that a letter be prepared by the Mayor, stating the city ' s
opposition to the proposed bills, and that the same be sent
to the State Legislators and the Sponsor of the bills . Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to adjourn the meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
The meeting was adjourned at 9: 25 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
May 9, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6 : 35 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Blondin and members of staff.
Request for Water Show on the Fox River on June 26, 1983,
between the hours of 1 : 00 p.m. and 3: 00 p.m.
The Council reviewed a request from Galen Knaak, Commodore of
the Elgin Marine Club, for permission to hold a water show on
the Fox River at the Club site on the above specified date and
time.
Mr. Knaak ' s letter stated that insurance would be provided,
security police and a clean-up crew.
The Council approved this request.
Recommendation from the Parks Board to accept a proposal
submitted by Leisure Concepts and Design to prepare a site
plan and plans and specifications tor fhe construction of
the proposed softball complex.
Mr. Nelson supplied the Council with copies of a resolution
and contract with Leisure Concepts and Design,and stated that
if the same met with Council ' s approval , this item could be
added to the Council Agenda this evening.
The Parks and Recreation Board recommended that Leisure Concepts
be employed to do the necessary design work for the ball fields,
and stated their fee structure of $64, 720 was competitive and its
references were the best of those firms making proposals.
Mayor Verbic stated that it would have helped the Council if
the contract could have been given to them when the agenda
was sent out and he asked that in the future the Council
be given all the details prior to the Council meeting.
Councilman Schmidt asked who was going to design the ingress
and egress .
Mr. Nelson stated that the roadways would be the last thing to
construct because you would not want people in there until the
diamonds were completed.
Councilman Hansen noted that the cost of the baseball complex
was now down to 12 million and he still wanted to know where
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May 9, 1983
Page 2
the money was going to come from.
Mayor Verbic stated that we know we now have $330,000 because
of this grant and hopefully in July there will be an additional
$ 180,000 in grant money. A committee has also been established
to seek financial aid and volunteer work in meeting construction
obligations .
Councilman Hansen stated the city is still matching these grants
in the amounts of $ 165,000 and $ 185,000.
Mayor Verbic stated that he knew the city will be short but he
hoped the grants and pledges will eliminate any tax money for
the project. The Mayor also pointed out that the ball players
come from all the trades and they are more than willing to
donate their time and equipment.
Councilwoman Shales asked if their time and equipment could be
used as a contribution in kind.
Mr. Nelson stated this could be done but it all must be
documented.
Councilman Hansen pointed out that the city spent $60, 000 for
the master plan, which included baseball diamonds and he
wondered why this was being duplicated.
Phil Bennett stated the city has a rough site plan but we need
something more detailed.
Mayor Verbic asked if there was anybody locally who could do
this design work.
Mr. Bennett stated not that he was aware of.
Councilman Schmidt asked if non-union people would be able to
work from this plan.
Mr. Nelson stated this will have to be considered when the work
is bidded out.
A majority of the Council asked that this item be added to the
regular Council agenda.
Report relative to a request for sanitary sewers along_ Lyle
Avenue and Second Street in the McIntosh subdivision.
Fred Carlson provided the Council with a status report of
residential sewage disposal systems along South Lyle and
Second Street . Said report reflected that except for two new
homes, all of the residences along South Lyle and Second Street
are 30 to 35 years old or older. Most homes were equipped with
a well in the front yard and a septic tank with seepage pit in
the rear yard.
Seven homes have currently failing septic systems and eleven
homes were classified as having setic systems with potential
problems based on frequent tank pumping due to slow fixture
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May 9, 1983
Page 3
draining or present or past periodic flooding of lots .
Mr. Harold Holtz of 181 Second Street submitted a list of
residents who are interested in having sanitary sewers . Some
of these property owners are within the City but are not in
the Sanitary District .
Mel Dahl stated that out of 57 homes 32 have agreed to participate
in having sanitary sewers installed. Mr. Dahl stated this would
involve a special assessment project and at this point he did
not have any cost estimates .
Mayor Verbic stated that over the years he had received numerous
complaints about the flooding in the area and the unhealthy
situation that exists with the septic systems . The Mayor
felt this project should be pursued. The Mayor also pointed
out the increase in property values that would be accomplished
by this undertaking .
Councilman Hansen asked if there were any figures available as
to the cost of the preliminary engineering and if this project
had a higher priority than Area 2.
Mr. Dahl stated that the preliminary engineering could be done
in house.
Mr . Nelson stated that he would meet with the Sanitary District
to establish some costs and to see if they would be willing that
the resident not be charged until they actually hooked onto the
line.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
for staff to proceed with this project. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed storm sewer along Maple Street from Larkin Avenue
south to the proposed Otter Creek Detention Area.
The staff advised the Council that IDOT is in the process of
preparing plans for widening Larkin Avenue between McLean
Boulevard and the Route 20 By-Pass . Construction is scheduled
to commence during the latter part of 1984.
The staff requested authorization from the Council to pursue a
joint City/ IDOT drainage modification whereby a storm sewer
will be installed along Maple Street, from Larkin Avenue south
to the Otter Detention Area that is presently being designed
in house.
Mr. Nelson stated that this is something that will have to be
done anyhow but we could try to get some help from the State.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
giving the staff authorization to negotiate this project with
IDOT. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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May 9, 1983
Page 4
Recommendation to retain the firm of Hampton, Lenzini &
Renwick to complete Phase 1 engineering for the improvement
of Wing Street from Route 31 west to Weston Avenue.
The firm of Hampton, Lenzini & Renwick have submitted a proposal
in the amount of $9, 600 to complete Phase 1 engineering for this
project. The City participation amounts to 25% or $2,400. Federal
participation of 75% amounts to $7, 200, and the staff is recom-
mending this firm be given the contract, subject to the receipt
of Federal funds .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to retain the firm of Hampton, Lenzini &
Renwick to complete Phase 1 engineering for the improvement
of Big Timber Road from Route 31 to Randall Road.
The engineering and constructions costs for this project will
be split 75% FAU, 12.5% County and 12.5% City, and the County
concurs with the selection of Hampton, Lenzini & Renwick to
perform the engineering services because of their experience.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Status report relative to the proposed street improvements to
Alfred and Demmond.
Mr. Nelson stated that out of 31 property owners which would
be included in the project only 10 have signed agreements with
the city for the project to proceed. Mr. Nelson said it would
be necessary for the Council to decide if they would want to
go ahead with the project on a special assessment basis, or
they could wait for May 28th, which is the deadline for returning
the signed agreements .
Councilman Schmidt suggested that we wait until May 28th because
some of the people could be out of town.
Mayor Verbic asked how much higher would the project be if it
was to go special assessment.
Dave Jepson stated it would be almost $60, 000 more.
Councilman Hansen stated he felt uncomfortable threatening this
amount of majority and the city should wait until May 28th
before making any decision.
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May 9, 1983
Page 5
Councilman Hansen asked what the cost per homeowner would be
under the agreement arrangement.
Ralph Ridley stated it would be $4200.00 per homeowner and this
amount could be spread over a ten year period.
Mr. Nelson stated he would bring this matter back to the Council
at the first meeting in June.
Request from H. W. Lochner, Inc. to select either the City ' s
Preferred Alternate or the Bypass Design Variant for the North
End Bridge project.
Mr. Nelson stated the question is not whether or not the bridge
is going to be built, but the consultant needs to have an answer
on the route in order to finsh the environmental impact statement.
Bernie Guentner of H.W. Lochner stated there is a 22million dollar
difference between the City' s Preferred Alternate and the Design
Variant.
Mayor Verbic stated in order to have a better aesthetic approach
the Preferred Alternate, which provided for the elimination of
the railroad tracks and Elgin Salvage. The Mayor stated that
he had talked with Mr. Roth and Mr. Roth stated that thus far
no one had contacted him regarding any move. The Mayor felt
that someone should talk to the various individuals who might
be involved to find out what their needs might be.
Councilman Hansen stated that he remembered be told by the
consultant that since the Federal government would be putting
up the largest sum of money, they might want to have their say
as to what route should be taken.
Mr. Guentner stated this was true and it might be that the
city would have pick up the additional expense if they chose
the more expensive route.
Councilman Hansen stated if this meant that the city would
have to pay the 375, 000 additional for the more expensive
route without any help from the county, it would effect his
vote on the project.
Councilmen Hansen and Shales indicated a concern for other
businesses in the area that might have to move and Councilman
Hansen asked if this matter could be placed on the next agenda
in order that the consultant could work out cost estimates on
the route variance.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to table this matter for two weeks . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
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May 9, 1983
Page 6
Request from H. W. Lochner, Inc. for additional compensation
to comelete all work on Phase 1 engineering for the North
End Bridge project.
The Council reviewed the request for additional compensation
from Bernard Guentner. The original engineering agreement for
$ 165, 520 would be increased to a total of $ 183, 836. The city
would pay 15% or $2, 747.40, Kane County would pay $2, 747.40, while
the Federal share would be $ 12,821 .20.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve the request for additional compensation. Yeas:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request from the Kane County Forest Preserve Commission that
the City waive its right in favor of the Commission to acquire
that portion of the Chicago and Northwestern Transportation
Company ' s right-of-way being considered for abandonment.
Mayor Verbic stated this would be a good opportunity for a
bike path which will go all the way into McHenry County, with
no cost to the City of Elgin.
Mr. Nelson stated he and the Mayor had met with Phil Elfstrom
regarding this matter and there were several items that needed
to be checked into. To make sure we have the rights for
watermains, also the Slade Avenue buildings might be in the
right-of-way and we would not want to land lock ourselves .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to have this item placed on the next Council Agenda providing
the above mentioned restrictions have been resolved. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting recessed to go into the regular
Council Meeting. 8: 00 p.m.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to recess the Committee of the Whole Meeting and to
commence the regular Council Meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays:
None.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened at 10:42 p.m.
Recommendation to retain the firm of Professional Service
Industries to perform material testing services for the Spring
DuPage and Fulton Street Streetscaping project.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
to accept the proposal from Professional Service Industries
for $2, 398 .91 . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
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May 9, 1983
Page 7
Recommendation to use "trench backfill " where necessary for
the Big Timber Commuter Parking Lot project at an estimated
cost of $5,400.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed agreement with the Illinois Deeartment of Transportation
for the maintenance of state highways within the City.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve the proposed agreement. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Recommendation to renew the farm lease on the EMHC property
with Collins Brothers .
This item appeared on the regular Council Agenda and was
approved.
Audit
Mr. Nelson passed out the annual audit report and advised the
Council the auditors would be here on May 23rd to address their
report and findings .
Home Builders Association of Greater Chicago
Mr. Nelson advised the Council this Association has completed
their report on the City Code (building regulations) and they
would submit same to the Council on May 23rd.
Comprehensive Plan
The Council scheduled a meeting on May 16th at 5: 00 p.m. , to
review the comprehensive plan and tentatively set June 13th
for passage of the Plan.
Capital Improvement Program
The Council scheduled a meeting on June 6th to review the
capital improvement program. Said meeting is to commence
at 5: 00 p.m.
Collective Bargaining Bills before the State Legislature
Mayor Verbic was requested to send letters to all local
representatives opposing the various collective bargaining
bills.
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May 9, 1983
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Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to
go into Executive Session to discuss acquisition of property,
appointments to boards and commissions, litigation and
personnel . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : The meeting
was adjourned at 11 : 10 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
May 16, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
5: 15 p.m. , in the E . O.C . Room of City Hall . Members present:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Absent : None.
Also present : Nelson, Yearman and members of staff.
Proposed Comprehensive Plan
Roger Dahlstrom stated that he would try to keep the discussion
brief and that he and Doug Dotson would try to answer any
questions that the Council may have. Mr. Dahlstrom pointed
out that the Plan is an analysis of where we are, how we want
to go and how we are going to get there. The idea in a sense,
is to set up a framework for the Council ' s decision making.
If there are going to be revisions to the code, if we are
going to implement programs, it ' s very beneficial for the
Planners to know what kind of an approach to take.
telk The Plan provides to strive for a sound tax base and a strong
diversified local economy; to improve existing housing and provide
and adequate supply of varied housing types, as well as providing
a suitable living environment for all Elgin residents ; to
preserve and enhance the natural aesthetic qualities of the
community and develop a more favorable community image and
identity; to develop an efficient street and transportation
system for movement of people and goods within, as well as
to and from the community ; to provide a healthful community
environment and a full range of municipal of public amenities
and services that will meet the needs and requirements of both
present and future residents of Elgin; and to develop a pattern
land use which is based on appropriate relationships among
land uses, as well as on environmental factors and criteria
of community-wide efficiency, compatibility, harmony, function
and scale.
Mr. Dotson walked the Council through the following exhibits :
The Community Planning Process
Household Trends
Elgin ' s Growth in retail sales - 1970 through 1981
Residential construction in Elgin - 1970 through 1981
Housing affordability in Elgin - 1970 through 1980
Park and Open Space System
Elgin Water System Plan - 2000
Sewerage System Plan - 2000
Percentage increase for Transportation-Related Variables
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May 16, 1983
Page 2
Thoroughfare System Plan
Mass Transit and Freight System Plan
Bicycle and Pedestrian System Plan
The Urban Village
The Neighborhood
Neighborhood Center
Urban Neighborhood Boundaries and Treatment Areas
Planning Subareas
Generalized Land Use Plan
Land Management Plan
Mr. Dotson stated that we need to have an efficient long
term capital improvement program. A plan to attract new
businesses and retain present businesses . Preservation of
the character of housing stock in the old neighborhoods .
Establish a city-wide energy conservation program. Preserve
the riverfont as a recreation source and improve entryways
to the City.
Councilwoman Shales stated that under the Transportation
System Issues there were some inconsistent views on the need
for the North End Bridge.
Mr. Dahlstrom stated that the Plan neither recommends or
disapproves the bridge, but the Plan would recommend that
if the City is going to spend the money for a bridge, then
it should maximize the benefits by looking more closely at
design and location before proceeding .
Councilman Waters asked if once the Council votes on the Plan
is this the official Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Dahlstrom stated this was true, but the Plan was not cast
in stone and he did not think this Council or any other Council
has the ability to commit the City to anything twenty years
down the line. There is an implied level of commitment otherwise
there' s no point in going through this process .
Councilman Hansen stated the Plan is a wish list and it ' s going
to be the job of the legislative body to implement the parts
they feel the citizens want and to try and commit to everything
in this document is an impossibility.
Councilman Schmidt asked if anyone had responded to the letter
received from South Elgin regarding the proposed Plan.
Mr. Nelson stated that the Mayor has the letter on his desk
for his signature. (Mr. Nelson passed out copies of said
response)
Councilman Waters stated he thought the letter should also
contain the fact that this particular part of the Plan was
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May 16, 1983
Page 3
already adopted over a year and a half ago.
(ow Mayor Verbic agreed that this should be explained to them.
Councilman Gilliam stated that most of the information being
presented tonight had already been furnished through numerous
other meetings and he was ready to move that the Council accept
the Plan.
Mayor Verbic stated there were new people on the Council and
they should have the opportunity to ask questions .
Councilman Waters questioned the policies set forth on Page 46
of the Plan relating to the maximum employment opportunities,
such as the establishment of municipal job training and summer
employment programs and cooperating with public and private
institutions and firms in assessing job training need and in
developing vacational training programs . Councilman Waters
pointed out that these needs have already been established
and are being provided by an educational institution.
Mr. Dahlstrom stated that some of the things within the Plan
are subject to the availability of money and nothing in the
Plan is cast in bronze.
Councilman Waters indicated he hoped that once the Plan is
(ow. adopted it would not be disgarded and that it would be kept
up to date.
Councilwoman Shales asked if the Plan provides the type of
guidance that is needed.
Mayor Verbic stated that this is a guide to go by but he would
hope the Council would not let the developers think that every-
thing is cast in stone because it must be flexible.
Councilman Hansen objected to a policy statement on Page 56,
which reads as follows : "A city-wide systematic housing inspection
program should be conducted in Elgin" . This could be viewed as
an invasion of property rights and we should take a neighborhood
at a time as it is needed.
Councilman Waters said it is the Council ' s responsibility to
address neighborhood concerns .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to remove the words "City-Wide" . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Mr. Nelson stated that he could put the Comprehensive Plan on
the Committee of the Whole Agenda scheduled for May 23rd and
if the Council had any other changes or questions they could
be brought up at that time.
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May 16, 1983
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Mr. Nelson also pointed out that the Plan would have to be
adopted at the June 13th Council Meeting.
The Council agreed to discuss the Plan further on May 23rd.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt to adjourn the meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 7: 15 p.m.
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June 2, 1983
The Elgin City Council met on June 2, 1983, at the David C .
Cook Publishing Company. Members present: Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent:
Councilman Schmidt .
Representatives of the David C. Cook Publishing Company present:
David C. Cook, Lee Vance, Donald Kruse, Joseph Bayley, Lee
Lueck, Larry Awie and Dave Mehlin.
Purpose of Meeting :
( I ) Introduction and explanation of David C . Cook Company.
(2) Explanation of concerns regarding the North End Bridge project.
(a) Truck traffic - already heavy and will increase with loss
of railroad use. Cost of paper would increase when
delivery is made by truck.
r (b) Parking for employees - would eliminate 80 to 137 spaces,
need to keep employees from parking in street, need for
convenient and safe parking space. Loss of cafeteria.
(c) Financial impact - loss of parking spaces, cost to
replace $ 163,000. Moving cafeteria is $35, 000 and will
lose more parking space if cafeteria is moved onto
existing parking lot. Cost of erecting a parking
garage $200, 000, plus cost of land.
(3) Question and answer period with representatives and employees
of the D.C . Cook Company regarding their concerns about the
bridge, it ' s location, impact on Cooks and the Northeast
Neighborhood.
(4) Lunch with the David C . Cook officers .
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
June 6, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at 5 : 25
p.m. , in the E .O.C . Room of City Hall . Members present: Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman and Members of staff.
Review of proposed Capital Improvement Program for 1984- 1988.
The Council reviewed a summary of capital improvement proposals
and improvement financing for the years 1984 through 1988. The
staff also furnished the Council with a 1984 capital improvement
projects priority list as follows :
Communications Center
South Grove/Outlet Mall Redevelopment
Chicago Street Commuter Lot
Otter Creek Detention
North End Bridge
Prairie Path Improvement
Street Lights at Intersection
Street Lights at Mid-Block
Tyler Creek Detention
Wright Avenue Park Rehabilitation
Morningside East Subdivision
Land Acquisition for Public Works Expansion
Lords Park Manor Park Development
Councilman Hansen stated that in looking at the overall proposals
there are some 84 projects being proposed and before these could
be considered it would be important and necessary to have a 5
year plan and some indication of the funding for these projects .
Mr. Hansen suggested that perhaps the Council could look at the
requests from the Police, Fire and Public Works Departments , as
a start .
Councilman Gilliam stated there is more to the City than Police,
Fire and Public Works and the Council should look at everything
that is going to cost money.
Councilman Hansen stated in that case we need a comprehensive list
covering the next 5 years .
Mr. Nelson suggested that with the limited amount of time for the
preparation of the 1984 budget the Council might want to look at
the 1984 improvement list and decide if they would want to include
the funds for the communication center in the bond issue for the
consolidated fire station.
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June 6, 1983
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Councilman Waters stated that a number of the projects call for
GOB issues and it would be helpful to know what the impact of
these issues would be and also it would be helpful to know if
there is a possibility of revenue from some other source.
Mr. Nelson stated the staff could prepare a debt schedule and
show the various tax rates .
Councilman Hansen stated that with this information the Council
could decide how much local funding to finance through bonds,
taxes and HCD funds and then fit the capital improvements into
the funds that are available. The Council should find the
revenue first.
Mayor Verbic stated that the revenue income could only be estimated
because nobody knows what will be coming in.
Councilman Hansen stated that if we do get less then we should
lower our expectations .
Councilman Hansen asked why the Morningside East Subdivision was
given more priority than the ambulance bay at Station 5 .
Mr. Nelson stated the Morningside property consists of approximately
4 acres behind the fire station on Big Timber, This land is not
needed by the City and the proposal was to subdivide the land into
lots and sell same to generate revenue.
Mayor Verbic thought the land should be sold as is and let someone
else subdivide it.
Mr. Nelson stated that if the Council would looked under the budget
requests they would see the Morningside project was not recommended
for 1984.
Mayor Verbic asked who decided the point system allocated to the
1984 priority list.
Mr. Nelson stated that this was done by the Planning staff and the
budget committee was not involved.
Councilman Waters said the staff should be given time to give
information on needs , which projects have financing, which would
raise their priority.
Councilman Hansen said we need to know what we are committed to now
in dollars, when these commitments will drop off, the staff ' s best
estimate on grants, and then we can see what kind of a tax levy we
want to improse on our citizens .
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June 6, 1983
Page 3
E. Mayor Verbic stated he had been around here for ten years and he
compared this project with the Comprehensive Plan. The Mayor
pointed out that the Communications Center and South Grove/Outlet
Mall Redevelopment will be difficult to assess for 5 years or
even 1 year.
Councilman Gilliam asked if the Mayor was saying that we should
take 1 year at a time.
Councilman Hansen stated that when you deal with emergencies that
crop up you lose sight of whats going to happen down the road and
this is an important policy making function of the Council .
Councilman Waters stated he agreed with Councilman Hansen and
the program will also give some general direction to the staff
in pacing projects and financing.
Mr. Nelson stated that if you have a capital improvement program
in place you have something to measure by.
Mayor Verbic stated that it would be impossible to estimate the
cost of the South Grove/Outlet Mall and the North End Bridge,
which would also make it difficult to prioritize. The Mayor
said he was willing to go along with the program but he just
wanted to point out the pit falls .
Councilman Hansen stated he did not know if the South Grove/
Outlet Mall should really be on this list because if there is
no developer there would be no need to accomplish this .
Councilman Waters stated that this could be phased so its not
all done in 1984.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters
for the staff to be allowed from 4 to 6 weeks to complete a 5 year
plan, using the Nominal Group Survey Process, providing for revenue
and debt financing, predicted amount of HCD, revenue sharing and
grant funds . The Council is to prepare a list of their individual
priorities and turn this information into the staff. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Review of proposal for the next phase of the Tyler Creek Detention
Facility.
Mr. John Guillou reviewed the following proposal with the Council
for the next phase of the Tyler Detention Project :
1 . Agreement must be reached with the Chicago and North Western
Railroad regarding protection of their embankment on the north
side of the detention reservoir.
2. An environmental assessment of the reservoir site needs to be
accomplished to support application for a Section 404 permit
under the Clean Water Act.
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June 6, 1983
Page 4
(Pk 3. Soil borings need to be completed to finally evaluate the
borrow area, and to more adequately define the foundation
conditions at the embankment and spillway.
4. Application should be made to the Chicago District of the
Corps of Engineers, for the Section 404 permit .
The estimated cost of the proposed work is $28, 900 and is broken
down as follows:
Chicago and North Western Railroad $ 7,800
Environmental Assessment Report 3 ,500
Soil Borings and Location Survey 11 , 250
Section 404 Permit Application 6, 350
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to proceed with this project and place this proposal on the next
Council Agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Consideration of changing the Corporation Counsel ' s position
from part-time to full -time.
Mayor Verbic stated that he had asked the City Manager to place
this on the agenda for the Council ' s consideration after looking
at the costs involved with special assessments, bond and industrial
revenue issues .
Councilwoman Shales stated that she had four questions : Would the
change provide better service at a reduced cost. Would this provide
better quality of service. What would a full -time counsel do that
the part-time counsel is not doing now, and what qualifications
and salary are being considered for a full -time counsel .
Mayor Verbic stated that a full -time counsel could provide more
availability, more efficiency, which is needed in view of the
size of our city and the number of suits pending against the city.
Councilman Gilliam asked if there had been any lack of response
time on the part of the present counsel .
Leo Nelson stated not to his knowledge and he was not aware that
there were any problems .
Mayor Verbic stated that a full -time counsel could address our
current problems and the increase in population and case load.
Councilman Hansen suggested that the Council look into the financial
arrangements . We have lost industrial revenue bonding because of
the front end costs, including attorney fees, which is unknown. Mr.
Hansen said he knew of three instances where companies would not
row go ahead with the bonding because of the fees and one who stated
they would not do it again. Mr. Hansen felt these costs should
all be under one umbrella, which would provide better relationships
with citizens in assessment districts and it would also save money
on other bonding issues .
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June 6, 1983
Page 5
Councilman Gilliam pointed out that the present counsel ' s salary
averages out to about $40, 000 per year. What kind of salary is
the Mayor considering.
Mayor Verbic stated that $50, 000 would actually be $90, 000 to
someone in private practice when you figure in their overhead,
or $60, 000 would be $ 105,000.
Councilman Schmidt asked what the fringe benefits amount to.
Councilman Hansen asked if the counsel was a part of the salary plan.
Mr. Nelson stated the counsel is not under the salary plan and
there have been changes over the years as far as retainer and
fringe benefits .
Mayor Verbic stated that the last agreement he remembered seeing
was in 1975, and he did not recall any discussion since then
regarding these items . Mayor Verbic also stated that for the
last three years at budget discussions he has asked to Council
to consider a full -time corporation counsel .
Councilwoman Shales stated she would rather wait and see a new
budget provide for a full -time counsel .
rik Councilman Waters stated that it has not been demonstrated there
is need for additional time on the part of the legal counsel and
he could not see any economy in having a full -time counsel . Mr.
Waters also stated it was his firm belief that the Council did
not consider this as a full -time position until they were advised
the corporation counsel works under the City Manager.
Mr. Waters said the he had a list of names and if any of these
individuals were proposed to take the position of corporation
counsel , then this is the hidden agenda.
Mayor Verbic stated that he did not think Mr. Waters had listened
to the list of cases that are now pending against the city and
the Council should look at the trial load and economics .
Councilwoman Shales stated that she was not against a full -time
counsel but felt a need to plan for this and she would vote no
on the issue this evening.
Councilman Schmidt suggested a salary of $52, 500 for a full -time
counsel .
Councilman Andersen agreed that this figure was in the ballpark .
Councilman Gilliam said he would like to keep it on a part-time basis .
Councilwoman Shales said somewhere between 50, 000 and 65, 000.
Councilman Hansen said between 50, 000 and 65 ,000.
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June 6, 1983
Page 6
folk Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to have an ordinance prepared changing the position of the part-
time counsel to full -time counsel , with a salary range between
$50,000 and $65, 000. All bond issues , special assessments and
court time to be considered as regular duties. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen
Gilliam, Shales and Waters .
Committee of the Whole Meeting recessed - 8 : 10 p.m.
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to recess the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into the
Regular Council Meeting. Councilman Gilliam stated he would
have to leave to attend a school board meeting. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened 9: 20 p.m.
Proposed agreement with the Elgin Public Museum Corporation for
the operation of the Lord ' s Park Museum by the Corporation.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve the proposed agreement and to have same placed on the
next Council agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt,
rft Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request from Larkin Home that the City adopt a resolution waiving
the City' s rights to apply for certain grant funds .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve this request and to have a resolution prepared and
placed on the June 27th Council agenda. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Status report on the proposed Alfred-Demmond street improvement
project.
Mr. Nelson stated that there is only one couple who have not signed
agreements to join in this project and they are an elderly couple
who have said they do not have the ability to pay the costs . They,
did say, that if everyone else signed, they would in order to avoid
the additional costs if the project went into an assessment district.
Lois Rakow stated that majority should rule and there is a flooding
problem and she would like to see the Council approve this project.
Mr. Nelson stated he would have the staff talk to this couple again
and advise them it is the Council ' s intention to proceed.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
rft to have the agreements placed on the next Council agenda for
acceptance by the Council . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
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June 6, 1983
Page 7
Proposed Change Orders #2, 3 and 4 with Irving Construction Co. ,
for Phase 11 work at the Fountain Square Campus Facility.
The Council reviewed the following proposed Change Orders :
Change Order No. 2 - to be reimbursed by E .C .C. $ 13, 292.00
Change Order No. 3 - to be reimbursed by E .C.C . 1 ,430.00
Change Order No. 4 2, 679.00
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve Change Orders 2, 3 and 4 with Irving Construction Co.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. Abstained: Councilman Waters .
Chan e Order to the contract with P.B. Verdico, Inc. for the
completion of Phase 1Painting to be completed at the Fountain
Square Campus Facility.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve Change Order No. 7 to the contract with P.B . Verdico.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. Abstained: Councilman Waters .
Proposed revisions to the Residential Rehabilitation Rebate Program.
The Council reviewed a staff memorandum from the Planning Department,
which recommended the following changes to the rebate program:
$2, 000 grant at 80% of very low income and $3,000 at 60% of very low
income. The $ 1 , 000 grant provision would remain unchanged and apply
to those households at 100% of the very low income category.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters to
approve the requested changes and an ordinance prepared for the
June 27th Council agenda. Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Designation of hearing body and date, time and place for the public
hearing required by the additional H.C . D. funds that the City will
receive under the Jobs Bill appropriation.
Mr. Nelson noted the Council acted upon this matter in the regular
Council Meeting. The Council would act as the hearing body, the
hearing will be held on Wednesday, June 22, 1983 , commencing at
5: 00 p.m.
The Council indicated they would like to try and include under
this program some of the projects deleted from the original HCD
program, such as resurfacing in the southeast area, energy
conserving projects and the NHS exterior painting. Councilman
Hansen suggested that the staff prepare a list of projects that would fall within the Jobs Bill appropriation.
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June 6, 1983
Page 8
Request from the Police Department that we allocate approximately
$3, 100 to acquire appropriate signs for the Neighborhood Watch
Program.
Chief Baird stated he was requesting an advance of $3100.00 to
acquire the appropriate signage for existing and future Neighborhood
Watch areas. The Department proposes to sell the signs at a
nominal fee to the areas involved. The signs will act as a
deterrent and will be useful in expanding the Neighborhood Watch
areas .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve this request and for staff to report back to the
Council in one year regarding the status of this program. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Request by Mr. Jack Collins that the City contribute $500 to the
Scholarship Fund for the Miss Illinois Pageant to be held at the
Hemmens Auditorium.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve this request. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Status report on the North End Bridge project.
Mr. Nelson stated that he had spoken briefly with Bill Carter
regarding any additional costs that the County may pickup should
the city decide to take the preferred bridge route. Mr. Carter
stated he thought a meeting would have to be set up for all
parties concerned.
Mr. Nelson also pointed out that a meeting with Mr. Guenter should
be scheduled to discuss appraisal costs .
Mel Dahl is to contact an individual at the Tollway office who
has some expertise in the appraisal field.
Mayor Verbic asked that the staff establish a line of communication
with Cook' s Publishing Company on the progress of this project.
Executive Session Minutes
Councilman Hansen asked that the Executive Session Minutes be
placed on the next Council agenda for the approval of same.
Adjournment
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into a Board
of Local Improvement Meeting . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. The
meeting was adjourned at 10: 00 p.m.
Marie Yearman, City Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
June 27, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order on
Monday, June 27, 1983, at 6: 45 p.m. , in the Council Chambers
of City Hall . Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , and Mayor Verbic. Absent: Councilman
Waters.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Discussion of the State ' s proposed closing of the Elgin Mental
Health Center.
Mayor Verbic: The City has received letters regarding this
matter from Mr. Herb Gross , who is present tonight , and from
the Elgin Chamber of Commerce , and members of the Council have
received letters and telephone calls . As you probably know
several years ago there was talk of this facility being used
as a minimum security prison. At that time the Council members
and myself wrote letters to the Governor and to the individual
in charge of the Mental Health Operations and we objected to
the proposed closing. We talked in terms of the jobs factor
at the hospital at that time and we vigorously opposed the closing
of the Mental Health Facility and the proposed minimum security
prison.
After this was done it appears that decisions were made whereby
two additional State prisons were built in Danville and Carbondale
and nothing more was heard about closing the facility here in Elgin.
I know that a majority of you people here tonight are employees
of this facility and you have been there for a long time. You
are concerned with the State ' s directive at this particular time,
which states they were going to think in terms of closing the
facility and transferring patients to other facilities . As you
probably know this is a State decision, one that we can vigorously
oppose and we can decide on a policy to be followed. I have
already spoken to the State Senator and State Representatives
regarding this matter. I have had no communication from anyone
in Springfield in regard to what they intend to do.
I would like at this particular point for your spokesman to come
up and talk to us relative to your concerns .
Herb Gross, 833 Prospect: I want to thank the Mayor and the
members of the City Council for giving me this opportunity to
speak.
I am a homeowner and I have been a resident of Elgin for over
19 years . I am here to ask you to pass a resolution requesting
the State of Illinois and the Department of Mental Health to
keep the Elgin Mental Health Center open.
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June 27, 1983
Page 2
risk First let me say that I am not here in any official capacity to
speak for the State of Illinois, the Department of Mental Health
or the Elgin Mental Health Center. Originally I was going to
speak in my own behalf, but since then I have been asked by
several employee organizations to speak for them as well , although
there may be other people here who wish to speak.
Most of you may be aware of the Department of Mental Health
position which was stated in a June 1st article in the Courier-
News. I have included a copy of this article. The information
given by the Department contains some partial truths which are
misleading. I would like to present some additional information
which can easily be verified through official sources . I will
first read the original statements .
Mr. Belletire said: "The Center has not been accredited since
1974 and its current fiscal year budget is 25 .9 million."
Numerous proposals to meet standards for accreditation have been
consistently rejected by the Department of Mental Health. Of
the 25 .9 million more than 22 million is spent locally in salaries
and purchases of commodities and supplies from local businessmen.
From a fiscal standpoint it is important to understand that this
22 million represents new outside money coming into Elgin. We
are different from most hospitals and local businesses in which
their expenditures reflect mostly recycled local money. The 22
million we spend comes from outside and it stays here. The
withdrawal of this large amount of money, in such a short period
of time, especially at a time when our economic climate is so
hard hit, will seriously hurt Elgin.
This money will not even be saved by the State of Illinois . Most
of it will simply be transferred to other communities such as
Manteno, or Chicago. Only some of our former patients will be
left behind, because of accelerated discharge procedures as the
State Hospital closes .
Senator Friedland acting under information supplied by Mr.
Belletire said: " If plans go ahead with the phasing out of some
programs , employees will be given ample time to make applications
for transfers within the system. "
There will be almost no positions for employees to transfer into.
During the last few years there have been repeated layoffs from
State facilities in Northern Illinois . The Elgin Mental Health
Center was able to absorb only 50 of the employees who lost jobs
due to layoffs and readjustments . Most were put on recall lists
in this general area. If openings should become available they
would have to be given to employees who are already waiting, and
even their prospects are bleak.
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This will mean just one thing for Elgin, a greatly increased
unemployment rate. According to the State Labor Department, as of
April 30, 1983 , Elgin had an unemployment rate of 12.5% based
on a workforce of 31 , 503 with 3 , 923 unemployed. An addition
of 935 laid off Mental Health Center Employees would make the
rate climb to 15 .5%. This would be one of the highest in the
area and very high nationally.
Even if employees could transfer to other parts of the state,
it would not help Elgin. Just think of the effect on the housing
market if a large number of homes should go up for sale during
the same period of time. New housing starts would also be affected.
It should be understood that over 90% of our employees live within
15 miles of our hospital , 70 to 80% with the corporate limits of
Elgin. These figures can be checked to the state personnel files
or through our hospital personnel files .
Mr. Belletire stated the Department " is spending 30% of its budget
in Community based programs which reduce institutionalized care."
This has not been reflected in our admissions which, excluding
the discontinued alcoholism program, have not changed significantly
in the last 10 years . The Ecker (formerly Fox Valley) Mental
Health Center, which does a really excellent job, despite under-
funding by the State, really helps those with less severe problems .
Those needing residential care are on our grounds .
emk In terms of community residential facilities , approximately 25% of
the people we consider ready for placement are totally rejected
by these facilities . Of those accepted, at least 30 to 35% are
returned to us in less than a year.
Mr. Belletire implies that the cost of Mental Health care would be
less with more emphasis on community treatment. The Douglas Hotel
was one community based facility where because of the Department ' s
emphasis and budgetary constraints we were forced to discharge
many patients to seek treatment in the community. If it were not
for the action by this City Council , we would have increasing
numbers of people living under those unsuitable conditions . We
don ' t think that Elgin or any community needs more. Elgin is not
unique in taking this action. Right on our grounds is a 10 bed
halfway house maintained by Northwest and Leydon for people they
don ' t believe should be in their community.
I would like to give some additional information about an
industrial park. There have been many rumors that if the Center
is closed down the property may become an industrial park. Even
if this were so the development would not take place until long
after economic conditions had deteriorated. It would also have
to be an unusual industrial park to replace over 900 jobs and
23 million dollars of new money.
I think that all of you have seen the 1983 directory from the
Chamber of Commerce that was put in the Courier a week before last.
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Page 4
On the flyleaf you will see they put a statement that during
the last 5 years, because of the work that they did, they had
encouraged 1 , 123 additional jobs in Elgin and I think they stated
it was 17 million nine hundred additional payrolls . I have been
around a long time and I have seen the Elgin Commerce and I think
they do good work, if our hospital closed it would close out 5
years of their work because our payroll is at least 20 million
and we are talking about 930 jobs .
The fact is that there is very little liklihood of an industrial
park being developed. According to state laws the disposition
of surplus real property is rather stringently defined. This is
why surplus property previously has gone to U-46 for storage, the
City of Elgin for recreation, the State Department of Transportation
and to a non-profit corporation for a rehabilitation workshop.
The laws state that surplus real property must first be offered
for free transfer to any other state agency requesting it. There
are currently two other state agencies on the hospital grounds,
the Racing Commission and the Department of Children and Family
Services . If either of these agencies want part of all of the
land it must be transferred.
Next it must be offered to local government units for their
purposes . This includes cities , townships , school districts ,
and even library districts . This is how Elgin and U-46 received
Mental Health Center property previously.
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Next it is offered for public sale but it has been the practice
in the past to give priority to not-for-profit or charitable
agencies , such as AIDS for a rehabilitation workshop. Currently
there are three not-for-profit organizations using our grounds .
The Ecker ( formerly Fox Valley) Mental Health Center, Respite
Center, the Leyden and Northwest Respite Center and across the
Route 31 Highway in our former superintendent ' s house is a
branch of CCADA. Because of all of this use and interest, the
liklihood of it becoming an industrual park is somewhat remote.
In summary, I would appreciate it if you would vote for a
resolution to keep the Mental Health Center open. If not just
for the residents so that they would have adequate care, rather
than to be thrown out on the streets , and it is not just for our
employees , whose loss of jobs would cause massive unemployment,
but it is of great importance to the City of Elgin to prevent
economic decline.
In the Courier ' s local report this evening there were two
comments of people who felt the hospital should be closed and
the reasons they gave. The reasoning is such a distortion that
I thought I might bring it up this evening because I am sure that
other people must believe similarly. One person said that if the
closing of the Center will help Elgin ' s downtown by not having
a lot of patients lingering in the Mall , it would be a good idea.
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Page 5
Our patients don ' t linger in the Mall because they are on our
grounds . Now maybe there are some of our ex-patients , if this
is the case, there have been numerous laws regarding the civil
rights of patients and of all people, that can sometime hinder
what you are trying to do. Unless you can show that a person
is virtually an immediate danger to himself or to others , or
totally unable to take care of their needs, this does not mean
not having a job, this means not being able to feed themselves
or something like that. If they don ' t want to be hospitalized
they cannot be held in the hospital against their will .
Every Friday we have a court on our hospital grounds and they
rigorously discharge people who according to the law cannot be
held against their will . The people lingering in the Mall are
not ours and I think the solution to that problem has to be
found elsewhere.
Another person said I understand there are about 600 patients
and 2000 employees , I wish this was true because maybe there
would be less accidents involving the employees and patients .
Bill Condell : I have worked at the Elgin Mental Health Center
since 1965 and have been a renter in Elgin for 9 years . I am
director of the community linkage which is a team that follows
along recipients that have left the hospital independently.
To close the hospital in my opinion will be the greatest dis-
service to the clients from the Fox Valley area and the north
suburban county area. My team of four follows patients who
come in independentialy with the emphasis to get them back
into their home community. It has taken approximately ten
years as a centralized team to develop person to person relation-
ships . My hands go out to the community agencies now that are
working with the clients , but you need both programs in order
to have an efficient out-patient program. You need strong
hospital based programs and relationship. The system will be
in a shambles if they close Elgin Mental Health Center.
Jean Person: I am a former employee of the Elgin Mental Health
Center and I am here tonight at the request of many of the
patients at the Center, to represent some of their views in
regard to the closing.
The Elgin Mental Health Center has one of the lowest per diem
rates in the region, in terms of patient care when you compare
like services . It also has one of the lowest per diem rates in
the State, particularly when you consider the fact that the Elgin
Center has an acute treatment facility and a very good medical
services section as opposed to Manteno, which has been one of the
places that has been suggested for transfer of patients . In other
words despite what one can read in some newspapers it is one of
the most economically run facilities in the State. It also has
one of the lowest after patients ratios in the State.
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June 27, 1983
Page 6
eimb. In regard to the unemployment rate to which Mr. Gross referred,
in the Elgin area there is a 17.6% rate of unemployment in the
manufacturing end of Elgin and only a 8% unemployment rate in
the service area, which would led me to believe that the idea
of a industrial park, would be a difficult thing to achieve.
Many of the patients feel that their feelings, their rights in
this issue are not being considered. I think it is very difficult
for me ever to have understood some of the crass attitude of the
Elgin community towards a lot of the patients in reference to the
so-called hanging around the Mall and just simply blaming a lot
of Elgin ' s problems on the presence of the Mental Health Center
being in the area.
I think it is important for all of us to realize that anyone of
us , whether you are City Council people, or whether you are anyone
in this room, or anyone in the community, we could be in the
position that those people are in out there. It is a service
that Elgin has provided for many years which the community should
be proud of and not ashamed of.
By transferring these patients to other facilities you negate
a lot of the very fine treatment that they do receive there.
You would be sending them to overcrowded and understaffed
facilities , perhaps many away from their homes , families and
support groups , all the things that we ourselves value, because
these patients are seen as non-human by the community.
It is important to keep the facility here and to encourage some
educational process which would make people much more aware of
what really does go on out there and not what rumors abound in
terms of what people think goes on out there.
Sharon Hoyle: I am a registered nurse at the Mental Health Center
and President of the Local Unit of the Illinois Nurses Association,
representing over a hundred nurses at the facility. I was born
and raised in Elgin and I have spent the last 20 years working
at the Elgin Mental Health Center.
As a registered professional nurse, I am very much concerned
about the care that the patients will receive going back into
the community. I work the Admission Units , I see them going
back to the communities and they come back to us because the
communities cannot provide the necessary follow-up care. We
are the only group of professional people out there that provide
twenty-four hour per day, seven days a week care. We are very
much concerned about the safety and welfare of the recipients
going back into the community .
Councilman Hansen: I have a question for Herb Gross . Does your
group support the idea that was submitted by the Chamber of
Commerce to have a public informational meeting. I get the
feeling that a lot of your concerns and questions should be
addressed to the State elected officials and administrative
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June 27, 1983
Page 7
personnel and I think that forum would permit you to do that and
I am just asking if you would support a meeting of that nature.
Herb Gross : Yes, I would, although I think there should be a
public hearing before any place would be closed or before there
is any radical change in the personnel or programs of an
established institution. The State House has just passed a
House Bill 619 and 620, requiring legislative oversight and
approval of future facility closings and giving them the authority
to stop it if they don ' t like it, this is currently in before the
Senate and I have written some letters and made some phone calls
requesting that this be done.
I feel that unless we can find out what the political reasons
for closing the facility are, the concerns we bring to this
meeting will not change their decision, and I don ' t know what
the political reasons are.
Councilman Shales : If not a public informational meeting then
what.
Herb Gross : No, I said I would like to see this .
Councilman Shales : We should have the people who are responsible
for this decision come and say in public, with everyone there,
including the press , to hopefully hear the same thing, saying
why they want to do it and what they plan to do, if they can
convince us that is the best course of action, with all of the
things that we have left such as unemployed people, empty land
and boarded-up buildings .
Councilman Gilliam: I think we should do a couple of things .
One, I think we should have a public meeting , but I think they
are going to tell us what we already know that they are going
to make an attempt to close this , but I think we should take it
a step further, that the City and the staff should act as a
catalysis and send letters to all our representatives, Zwick,
Kirkland, Friedland and Grotberg, expressing our concern and
to the Governor, and also I think we should try and get a meeting
with these individuals on a face to face basis , if we have to
go to Springfield or have them come up here.
1 think that in conjunction with that, that we as a body should
go to the representatives along with the people from the business
community and also some representatives from the employee groups,
and express our concerns and do some arm twisting and make them
do some soul searching and put some pressure on them. I think
that is the name of the game.
Councilman Shales made a motion, secondered by Councilman
Andersen, to conduct a public informational meeting and to
rft. include in such meeting the Governor, and local representatives ,
so that they may be present to answer questions regarding the
future plans for the patients, unemployment of the personnel
and the economic blow to the community. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
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June 27, 1983
Page 8
Councilman Gilliam left the meeting at 7: 40 p.m. , to attend
a school board meeting.
Lisa Martin of International Systems , Inc. re renewal of the
Grant Assistance Program offered by International Systems .
Ms . Martin pointed out that the terms are the same in the
renewal agreement and their services are limitless,and they
will now be looking into private foundations for funds .
Mayor Verbic stated that since there are two new members on
the Council it might be appropriate for International to
submit a summary reflecting the number of grants sumitted,
the amounts of those grants and the specific grants which
have been approved.
Ms . Martin stated she would be happy to furnish this material
to the Council .
Proposed weight limit for vehicles using Bent Street between
St. Charles and Villa Streets .
The Traffic Committee advised the Council that an excessive
number of heavy trucks , including semi -trailers , are using
Bent Street as a bypass to go east in order to avoid the
traffic signal and take advantage of the shorter travel distance.
Bent Street goes through a residential area and the street was
not designed to carry a large number of heavy trucks . In order
to prevent structural damage to the street and for safety reasons ,
a load limit of 5 tons is recommended on Bent Street between
Liberty Street and Villa Street .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve the recommendation and to have the appropriate
ordinance prepared for the Council agenda. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Proposal from Kane County to participate in a Hydrogeologic Study
to investigate potential shallow Groundwater resources for future
development.
The Council reviewed a proposal to conduct a shallow groundwater
resource investigation in Kane County. Elgin ' s share of the
proposed study is $24, 119 and this amount would be spread over
two years .
Ron Zegers stated the value of the study for long term planning
and a basis for economical analysis of water supply would be a
benefit to the City of Elgin.
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June 27, 1983
Page 9
The short term advantage of finding shallow groundwater supply
for immediate development is not a priority unless the barium
sulfate precipitation problem that is occurring in Well 3A cannot
be controlled and the problem developes in the other wells .
Mr. Nelson stated that the City previously turned this project
down and the County is now asking that we reconsider it because
we should not be the only municipality to not participate, and
there may be some long range benefits .
Mayor Verbic pointed out that Elgin has expended funds to see if
the river water is feasible and they could look to us for this
information. The Mayor also recalled that Elgin joined in with
Aurora for the study on waste and nothing came of it.
Councilman Hansen stated that by the time we would need this
information it would be old and outdated and we should wait
until the information is needed.
Councilman Schmidt recalled that in 1982 the staff did not
recommend that Elgin consider this study.
Ron Zegers stated that he would support it now and he did not
feel the information would become obsolete. The study would
provide a tool to locate water.
Councilman Hansen stated he did not perceive needing this
information for the next 25 years .
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
not to participate in this project. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposal to enter into contracts with three companies for the
Fall Performing Arts for Young People Series .
The Council reviewed the following proposed productions for
the Fall Performing Arts for Young People Series:
The Ring of The Fettuccines (The Brogue Opera Co. ) Fee - $2, 740
The Ice Maiden (Joffrey Ballet Concert Group) Fee - $5, 500
Sara Crewe, The Orphan Princess ( Part Foundation) Fee - $3,800
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve the aforementioned productions . Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposal to modify the City ' s Pavement design and construction
specifications in new subdivisions .
Gary Miller advised the Council that the staff believes the
requirement that construction be 75% complete before the streets
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June 27, 1983
Page 10
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are finished is a sound engineering practice. Repairs due to
damage or failure are made prior to the placement of the final
bituminous course and a longer lasting pavement results . However,
no one anticipated such a lengthly housing construction slowdown
and the negative aspects which are beginning to materialize.
The staff requested that the City Council review the pavement
construction requirement in view of the building slowdown and
that consideration be made to reduce the 75% completion
requirement in specific situations where deemed appropriate.
The staff could be flexible to help the developer, while at the
same time achieving a high quality new street system. Any
disagreement between staff and developer, should they arise,
could be resolved ultimately by the City Council .
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Councilman Hansen asked when the Council would be discussing
the Greater Chicago Area Builder ' s Report.
Mr. Nelson stated he did not think the staff had the opportunity
as yet to review this matter.
Mayor Verbic stated that perhaps the staff could get this done
and a meeting could be scheduled to review this report.
Recommendation to remove the prohibition of left turn movements
by westbound Highland Avenue traffic onto southbound Crystal
Avenue.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt , Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None .
Status report on the North End Bridge Project.
Leo Nelson advised the Council that Mel Dahl and Gary Miller
had met with representatives from the FHWA, IDOT and Lochner,
and as a result of said meeting it would appear that the project
under the City ' s Preferred Alternate cannot receive design approval
unless the C&NW track is abandoned. The C&NW must serve their
existing customers (mainly Elgin Salvage and Wholesale) . However,
Elgin Salvage cannot be acquired for the project, until the project
receives design approval .
It was determined it would be almost impossible to proceed with
the City ' s Preferred Alternate, given these constraints . Even if
the City relocated Elgin Salvage and convinced the railroad to
file for abandonment, the abandonment procedures could take a
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June 27, 1983
Page 11
long time. Additionally, the ICC could approve the abandonment
and legal action by some user could tie it up in court for an
additional amount of time, perhaps years .
Mr. Nelson further stated that he had met with Bill Carter and
Mr. Shoop and they indicated they were in full support of the
project and they would be willing to schedule a meeting to
discuss financing .
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the City has the following options .
Total withdrawal of the project. To proceed with the Preferred
Alternate, in which case the City would have to pick up the
entire cost of removing Elgin Salvage, or to proceed with the
by-pass design variant.
Mayor Verbic stated that it looked like the only choice was
the design variant.
Councilman Hansen stated he was disappointed that the consultant
has spent some $500,000 on the project and they did not come up
with this decision until now.
Mel Dahl stated that if the Council could decide on the design
tonight the consultant could complete the EIS in two weeks .
Mr. Nelson stated it was really important that the Council
make a decision tonight .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to proceed with the design variant. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Approval of Executive Session minutes of various meetings .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt
to have the Executive Session minutes for 1982 placed on the
Council agenda for approval . Councilman Hansen also suggested
that approval of the subject minutes be made by the Council on
a regular basis , perhaps every six months . Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays: None .
Adjournment
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss acquisition of property, appointments to
board and commissions and litigation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays:
None. The meeting was adjourned at 11 : 05 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
July 11, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at 6:37 p.m. in the
Council Conference Room of City Hall. Members present: Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: Councilman
Schmidt.
Also present: Nelson, Roll, Jentsch and members of the staff.
Committee of the Whole Meeting Recessed
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen, to go into
Executive Session. Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting Reconvened at 7:39 p.m.
Councilman Gilliam stated he would have to leave to attend a school board
meeting.
Review of Proposed Sludge Disposal Facility at McLean Boulevard and Route 31
Lyle Brown, attorney for the Sanitary District of Elgin, asked for the support
of the City of Elgin for a pollution control facility at the intersection of
McLean Boulevard and Route 31. The Sanitary District proposes to use the
site for approximately 20 years, at which time the restored site will be
conveyed to the Forest Preserve District of Kane County.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen, to support
the proposed Regional Pollution Control Facility proposed by the Sanitary
District of Elgin at McLean Boulevard and Route 31. Yeas: Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Review of Services Offered by the National Center for Municipal Development
Barbara McCall of the National Center for Municipal Development discussed
the services provided for cities by her organization. She stated that her
organization will spot federal fundings, identify potential problems and
opportunities reflected in upcoming legislation, establish relationships
between the City and congressional representatives and provide information
and technical assistance. She stated her work is an extension of the City
staff by searching for ways to maximize City resources.
Mr. Nelson stated that the significant difference between the National Center
for Municipal Development and ISI is that the National Center does not assist
in writing grants.
Mayor Verbic stated that the Council will probably make a decision on this
matter at its next regular meeting.
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Change Order No. 5 for Phase II Work at the ECC Fountain Square Campus
Chuck Cassell stated that the project was progressing on schedule. There
were some electrical changes that needed to be made in order to stay on
schedule.
The Council authorized Change Order No. 5.
Review of Proposals for the Design of the Proposed Fire Station on Summit Street
The Council reviewed the proposals for the design of the new fire station. The
lowest proposal was from John A. Wabich, who has had experience in the design of
approximately 40 fire stations to date since 1974. He stated he will work
directly with the fire department to achieve the precise results the City of
Elgin desires. Mr. Wabich anticipated that this project will be ready for bid
by October 1, 1983.
Councilman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen, to place the
proposal of John A. Wabich on the regular City Council agenda. Yeas: Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Request from the Human Relations Commission to Send a Delegate to the National
Urban League Convention in New Orleans
el` Mr. Nelson stated that from time to time board members have gone to conferences.
It is not done often, but does require the approval of the City Council. The
National Urban League deals with youth, housing problems and other human needs.
The Human Relations Commission feels it is important for a delegate from Elgin
to attend to assist in the organizing efforts of an Urban League of Elgin.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters, to send a
delegate from Elgin to the National Urban League Convention in New Orleans.
Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays:
None.
Discussion of Bid for East Side Water Transmission Main
The City Council reviewed the bids for the east side water transmission main.
The low bidder, Neri Construction Co. , Inc. , received some unfavorable recom-
mendations concerning their past performance in other cities. It was the
concensus of the Council to invite Neri Construction Co. , Inc. to attend its
next regular meeting so the Council may discuss the proposed project and
determine if they are the lowest responsible bidder. The item will be tabled
at the regular Council meeting.
Committee of the Whole Meeting Recessed - 8:40 p.m.
Councilman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen, to recess the
Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into the Regular Council Meeting. Yeas:
Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Shales Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting Reconvened - 11:30 p.m.
Discussion of Proposed Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance Relative to Off-Street
Parking Lot Requirements
The City Council discussed a request from the Planning Department to bring an
amendment of the off-street parking lot requirements before the Planning
Committee. The staff cited that the requirements of the parking lot ordinance
may place an unnecessary hardship on owners of older, vacant commercial and
industrial properties.
Councilman Hansen stated that he favored more stringent control on new structures,
but less stringent control on rehabilitated structures. He stated that the City
has to be willing to be flexible in the administration of its parking lot code.
The staff must be encouraged to recognize exceptions or in the alternative amend
the form of the ordinances.
The Council directed the staff to make recommendations to the Planning Committee
for their review.
Review of Recommendation to Use City Funds for Phase I Engineering on
North McLean Boulevard
Mr. Nelson stated that originally the City of Elgin planned to do the engineering
in-house, so Phase I engineering was not included in the request for FAU funding.
The project became more complicated and cannot be performed by City staff. The
staff requests that the Council authorize Phase I engineering with City funds,
then the City will request funds from FAU for Phase II design engineering in
August.
The City Council authorized the utilization of City funds for Phase I engineering
on the North McLean Boulevard improvement.
Discussion of Maintenance of Passenger Platform and Shelter at the Almora Station
Mr. Nelson presented a letter from the Northwest Suburban Mass Transit which
requested that the City maintain a passenger platform and shelter at the new
Almora Station. The District will construct and own the facility if the City
will agree to maintain the facility.
Councilman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam, to accept
the responsibility of maintaining the facility. Yeas: Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Miscellaneous
Mr. Nelson informed the Council of a communications system by Motorola for
police and fire departments. The Council directed Mr. Nelson to invite
representatives from Motorola to its August 8th meeting at 5:00 p.m. for a
review of the system.
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Adj ournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen, to adjourn
the Committee of the Whole Meeting. Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None. The meeting was
adjourned at 11:58 p.m.
Nancy -Roll, -Acting City Clerk
rik Committee of the Whole Meeting
August 8, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order on Monday,
August 8, 1983, at 6: 45 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of
City Hall . Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch and members of staff.
Proposed street improvements to South Weston from Larkin to Van.
Mr. Nelson stated that several weeks ago Councilman Schmidt had
inquired as to the possibility of creating a Special Agreement
project for the above street improvements . This proposed project
would be similiar to the Alfred-Demmond improvements and would
include a storm sewer and street improvements .
Gary Miller stated that if the Council directed this one block
could be isolated from the Area II project. There would be
fourteen lots involved and the preliminary estimate of cost'
amounts to $ 108, 000. The cost would amount to roughly $72 per
front foot. However, the cost for each parcel would be determined
on an individual basis and would vary as they did on the Alfred-
Demmond project.
Councilman Schmidt stated that at one time there was mention of
making a cul -de-sac in this area, and in talking with some of the
people residing in the area they indicated this would be their
preference.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to have the staff proceed to conduct meetings with the residents
in this area to ascertain if a special agreement for the improvements
could be accomplished and at that time also discuss the dul -de-sac
proposal . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Request for traffic control devices at Elm and Washburn Streets .
The Traffic Committee advised the Council this request was made
through a letter from Michael Horwitz, a resident of 334 Elm
Street. The letter was followed within a few weeks by a petition
with 25 signatures from residents close to the intersection.
Both of these streets carry low traffic volumes - 200 vehicles on
Elm and 400 vehicles on Washburn per day. Accident records in
the Police Department indicate there was only one accident in each
of 1981 , 1982, and up to the middle of the current year. All the
accidents were minor in nature.
This matter was discussed twice at the Traffic Committee, and both
times the committee members denied the request . The installation
of Stop or Yield signs at Elm and Washburn would serve as a justi -
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fication for similar signs at any of the surrounding intersections,
which the Traffic Committee does not believe to be necessary.
This matter is being brought to the attention of the Council since
it has generated so much interest to the neighbors .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to support the staff ' s recommendation and deny the request. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Recommendation to accept a proposal submitted by Donohue & Associates,
Inc. for the television inspection of selected sanitary and storm
sewers .
The 1983 Budget includes a figure of $24, 000 for cleaning and
televising sewers in various locations throughout the City. It
had been estimated that approximately 24, 000 feet of sewer could
be televised in order to determine if repairs or replacement was
necessary.
The proposal submitted by Donohue & Associates , Inc. , provided
for the sewer cleaning and televising at the unit prices of $0.200
per foot and $0.345.
The staff recommended to the Council that the proposal from
Donohue be accept and that they be permitted to expand the project
and televise additional lengths of sewer utilizing the unit price
of $0.545 per foot up to a maximum total of $24, 000.
The Council indicated their approval of the staff ' s recommendation.
This item appears on the Council agenda for formal passage.
Proeosed temporary access easement to the Willard Avenue Detention
Basin.
For the last six months the staff has been negotiating with
McGrath Buick to obtain a temporary access easement to the east
side of the Willard Detention Area. The staff has now obtained a
signed agreement from the McGrath attorneys and they are
recommending approval of same.
The Council indicated their approval and will give formal passage
to same at the regular Council Meeting.
Change Order No. 3 to the contract with William Zeigler & Son, Inc.
for the construction of the river intake structure.
The Council reviewed the proposed Change Order covering seven items
with a total increase of $5, 122. 24 in the contract amount. The
Council indicated their approval of same and noted this item is
on the Council Agenda for formal approval .
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Discussion relative to the proposal submitted by International
(ow Systems, Inc. and the National Center for Municipal Development.
Mr. Nelson stated that the Council has had the opportunity to
appraise the contracts submitted by both companies and to talk
with their representatives . One of the major differences is
that International Systems does provide the City with grant
writing service, while National Center for Municipal Development
does not.
Mayor Verbic stated that if the City could assume the responsibility
of writing the grant applications he felt the National Center firm
could provide a more personalized service in Washington. The Mayor
went on to say this firm ' s representatives are very close to our
elected representatives and they could be very effectual in lobbying
for various grants . The Mayor insisted the money is there but it
takes a good job of lobbying with our local representatives to get
anything.
Councilman Hansen stated that he felt that International Systems ,
who work on a contingency basis , had sought funds for projects ,
which the City should not even start because they cannot afford
them. If the City would write their own grant applications it
would enable the City to apply for those grants which were affordable.
Mr. Nelson stated that without reflection on the City ' s staff, they
do not write grant applications . Mr . Nelson pointed out that when
the City first started with International Systems they were sending
each Council member correspondence which indicated the status of
grants that were available and they asked for direction from the
Council as to which grants the City felt were applicable to their
needs .
The then Council asked that this correspondence be stopped because
of the volume of mail that it entailed.
Councilman Hansen felt these directions from the Council were
necessary and there should be some communication on the selection
of grants to be sought.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to continue with International Systems for one year. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : Councilman Hansen.
Councilman Hansen stated that it might be a good idea to hire
National Center also because if they were successful in obtaining
money for the North End Bridge it would be worth the $25,000 fee.
Mayor Verbic felt this would be a duplication of service, but
the National Center proposal should be held in obeyance and
looked at in the future.
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Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to engage National Center for one year on a trial basis . Yeas:
Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt. Nays ; Councilmen Gilliam,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Proposal submitted by Tom Skiles & Associates to continue the
Employee Assistance Program.
Mr. Skiles informed the Council that after 12 months his association
has provided assistance to 21 city employees . Of that total the
breakdown is as follows : Alcoholism ( 7) ; Marital (4) ; Emotional
(4) ; Drug Abuse (3) ; Financial /Legal ( 1 ) ; Medical ( 1 ) and Family
( 1 ) . Four of these individuals were supervisory referrals , one
came directly from the Personnel Office, and the remainder were
self-referred through use of the 24-hour hotline.
Councilman Gilliam asked if these individuals were referred to
other agencies .
Mr. Skiles stated that they are first evaluated and then referred.
Councilman Schmidt asked why a majority came from one department.
Mr. Skiles stated this was an indication of stress in the department
because of the nature of the job. Mr. Skiles also pointed out that
there is a need to intensify the role of supervisors and to teach
them how to deal with these problems . Supervisors will again be
trained in how to use the Assistance Program.
Councilman Waters asked if any of the referral agencies had been
contacted to see what feelings they had relative to this referral
system.
Mr. Nelson indicated this had not been done.
Councilman Waters felt there was very little accountability shown
and these agencies should be contacted and their imput made a part
of this report.
Councilman Hansen asked if there was any documented material as
to days off or less days off as a result of this program.
Mr. Aydt stated this would be hard to measure because they could
only do this in a case where the individual required supervisory
monitoring. Those in the program who remain unidentified would
fall in a questionable area.
Councilman Hansen stated that he liked Councilman Water ' s idea
and in addition he would like to see some figures as to the amount
of time off in 1981 and 1982 for those individuals referred by
supervisors .
Mayor Verbic asked Mr. Skiles if it would be possible to charge a
fee just for each employees who is assisted in the program as
opposed to basing the fee on the total number of city employees .
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Mr. Skiles stated he would bring this information back to the
rCouncil .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to table this matter until such time as the requested information
is available. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recess of Committee of the Whole Meeting - 8 : 05 p.m.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to recess the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into the
regular Council Meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting reconvened - 11 : 05 p.m.
Status report on the Communications Center.
Mr. Nelson advised the Council the meeting with the Motorola
representatives had been re-scheduled to August 29th at 5 : 00
p.m. The staff is seeking a negotiated cost and they have
been advised by Motorola there is a possibility the equipment
could be available by the end of the year.
Councilman Schmidt asked where the proposed center might be
rm. located.
Mr. Nelson stated the location will be somewhere within the space
which will be vacated by the Fire Department . Chief Van De Voorde
has indicated if their move has not taken place when this equipment
is installed, his department would work around it .
Status report on the Fire Station project.
Chief Van De Voorde advised the Council there is a twelve man
building committee working with the Architect, who anticipates
a bid opening around November 1st and the commencement of
construction the last of November or the first of December.
Chief Van De Voorde reviewed with the Council preliminary designs
for the new fire station.
Report on the composite ranking of the Capital Improvement Projects .
Mr. Nelson handed out an updated City Council Composite ranking
of capital improvement projects . Mr. Nelson stated this item
would be discussed at the August 29th Committee of the Whole
Meeting.
General Fund 1984 Budget Projections and Tax Levy requirement.
The Council reviewed a memorandum from the Finance Department
which reflected the General Fund 1983 property tax requirement
is projected at $4, 592, 000 compared to the 1982 levy of $4,531 .60.
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This represents an increase of $60, 240, or 1 .3% from 1982 to
1983. The property tax requirements for other funds (Police
and Fire Pensions , IMRF Pension, Public Benefit and Bonds and
Interest) are being reviewed and will be submitted in a separate
report.
Truth in Taxation Tax Levy Information.
The staff advised the Council the Truth In Taxation Act requires
the publication and a public hearing, if the tax levy (excluding
debt service) will exceed , 105% of the previous year ' s tax levy.
Current projections show 1983 tax levy requirements of $6,613,030
or 103 .8% compared to $6, 369, 050 levied in 1982. Therefore, no
publication nor public hearing should be required in 1983.
Request from Home Federal Savings & Loan to remove the No Parking
Zone on the south side of Highland west of Spring Street .
The staff advised the Council the pavement is 36 feet wide at
this section of Highland. There is parking allowed on the north
side, which takes about 8 feet. If parking was replaced on the
south side, there would be about 20 feet remaining to move traffic.
It would give us two 10 foot lanes , which is rather narrow and less
than what is recommended.
This section of Highland is still a State highway and so IDOT
would have to be consulted in anything we do should the Council
decide to replace the parking.
Councilman Schmidt and Councilman Andersen felt the no parking
should remain as it is because Home Federal has a parking facility
right across the street.
Mayor Verbic stated it is a convenience for people to run in and
complete a small transaction.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve the request from Homes Federal Savings & Loan. Yeas :
Councilmen Gilliam, Hansen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
Councilmen Andersen and Schmidt.
Elgin Historic District
Mr. Nelson furnished the Council with newspaper articles that
appeared before and after this year ' s Historic Home Tour . This
second annual home tour celebrated the placement of the Elgin
Historic District on the National Register of Historic Places .
National Street Parking Lot
Mr. Nelson stated that back in September, 1982, the Council
discussed charging people to park in the commuter lots . At
""'' this time both the National Street lot and the Almora lot were
discussed, but the parking fees proposed at that time were to
be allocated to the Almora lot only.
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Through a misunderstanding, Mr. Bolerjack thought the commuters
at the National Street lot were to be charged also and to date
17 spaces out of 81 have been rented.
Mr. Bolerjack pointed out that most of the other communities do
charge for parking in the commuter lots and since the maintenace
of these lots are the city ' s responsibility, the parking fee would
help to off-set this expense.
Councilwoman Shales pointed out that many of the commuters would
use the streets to park on in order to avoid the fee and it might
create problems in an another area.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
not to charge a parking fee at the National Street lot. Yeas :
Gilliam, Shales and Waters . Nays : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt and Mayor Verbic.
Councilman Waters pointed out how difficult it would be to enforce,
requiring additional staff to do so and the income might not cover
the cost of administration.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to reconsider the previous vote. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman
Schmidt.
(Pk Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
not to charge a parking fee at the National Street commuter lot.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Schmidt.
The following items were given to the Council for their review and
comment:
1 . A letter from Speer Financial relative to the Industrict
Revenue Bond issue for the Sherman Hospital project.
2. A Memo relative to the revisions to Sherman Hospital ' s parking
lot south of Slade Avenue.
3 . A progress report on the North End Bridge project.
Mayor Verbic requested that Gary Miller meet with Bernie
Guentner for more updated material . The report submitted
this evening represents work completed through April 29, 1983.
Discussion re certain conditions at 102 South State Street .
Councilman Schmidt stated that he had received several calls from
the residents of 102 South State Street complaining about the heat
in the halls and the leaks on the 10th floor. Councilman Schmidt
eink stated he paid a visit to this housing facility and the ventaliation
was so bad that the temperature in the hall was over a hundred
degrees .
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Councilman Schmidt also confirmed the leakage on the 10th floor,
and he stated he thought the Council should call these conditions
to the attention of the Housing Board.
Mayor Verbic stated that he had also received telephone calls
and had talked with several of the Board members . The problem
seems to be a lack of funds , but the Board members stated they
would look into this situation.
Councilman Hansen stated the Board is accountable to the Mayor.
Councilman Schmidt stated he would like the staff to check into
this matter and report back to the Council .
Chicago Area Homebuilders .
Mr. Nelson reported that he and members of the staff did meet
with the Chicago Area Homebuilders Committee. Mr. Nelson
wondered if the Council wanted this Committee to meet with
the City' s Building Commission, or if they wanted them to
come directly to the Council .
Mayor Verbic stated he thought the meeting should be with the
Council and the City ' s Building Commission should be invited
to said meeting.
r Councilman Waters stated the Building Commission should be furnished
with a copy of the Homebuilders ' recommendations prior to the
meeting.
Councilman Gilliam felt the Council should not by-pass the process
just because we may hear something we do not like and that matter
should be discussed by the Building Commission prior to a meeting
with the Council .
Councilman Hansen stated he would like a copy of the report and
recommendations given to the Building Commission for their review,
and then invite them to attend the meeting with the Builder ' s
Association.
Elgin State Hospital
Councilman Gilliam stated he would still like to see a meeting set
up with all of the up coming election candidates and the Governor,
to discuss the possible closing of the Elgin State Hospital .
Mayor Verbic stated that he had been in contact with the Governor' s
office, but as yet nothing definite had been achieved. The Mayor
said he would renew efforts to arrange such a meeting.
Special Service Area II Property Tax Requirements .
(ow Mr. Nelson furnished the Council with a memorandum from the
Finance Department setting forth the revised projections of
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tax rates and levy requirements for 1983- 1989, together with
an explanation of the revised projections .
Adjournment
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss acquisition of property, appointments to boards
and commissions and litigation. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays:
None. The meeting was adjourned at 12:45 p.m.
Marie Yearman, ity Clerk
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
August 29, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at 5:40
p.m. , in the E .O.C . Room of City Hall . Members present:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Councilman Hansen arrived at 7: 15 p.m. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Jentsch, Yearman and members of staff.
Presentation by Motorola, Inc. , to provide a new communications
system for the Fire and Police Departments .
Mr. Bernie Schaeffer and Dennis Harding, representatives from
Motorola, reviewed with the Council their proposal for a new
communications system. Mr. Schaeffer stated the present system
was unreliable, had an overworked frequency, crowded and insufficent
dispatch center, the age of the system technology and the manual
status changes which require time and effort to update.
Mr. Schaeffer then pointed out the advantages provided in the
new proposal such as , city-wide coverage from a portable radio,
exclusive frequencies , automatice status updating, police unit
ID and emergency, fire dispatch processor, fire paging, police
motorcycle operation, and security voice privacy adapters in
administrative vehicles .
All dispatch consoles would communicate on the following channels :
both police channels , fire channels , fire mutual aid, police point
to point, police data channel , and Elgin Public Works .
Councilman Gilliam asked what the anticipated life span for this
system would be.
Mr. Schaeffer stated from 10 to 12 years .
Mayor Verbic asked what changes in technology would be expected.
Mr. Schaeffer stated he saw no technical changes during this time
period.
Mayor Verbic asked for the names of some other municipalities
presently using this system.
Mr. Schaeffer stated Palatine, Hoffman Estates , Joliet, Calumet
City. There are close to fifty systems throughout the Chicagoland
area.
Councilwoman Shales asked who would instruct the city personnel
as to the use of this equipment.
Mr. Schaeffer stated that Motorola would train the personnel .
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Councilman Schmidt asked if these other systems were as elaborate
as the system being proposed.
Mr. Schaeffer stated that some are and some do it piece-meal .
Councilman Schmidt asked what happens to the old equipment.
Mr. Schaeffer stated that if it is salvagable he would suggest
that it be turned over to the Public Works Department and then
some of the equipment can be adapted to the new system.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt,
to approve the staff ' s recommendation as outlined and to have
the staff negotiate and bring back a firm contract. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposal from Poison Architects to conduct a Needs Assessment
andPresue of space currently occupied by Fire Station #1 for
the Police Department.
Mr. Steven Polson advised the Council that his firm deals with
law enforcement centers only and he indicated the most successful
police facility is one developed as a tool for daily operations .
This proposal would provide a layout for the immediate development
of an improved communications center as well as the subsequent
expansion of police space.
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the communications center will be
ready for installation prior to the Fire Department moving to
their new station. However, the Fire Department has indicated
they would be able to make room and work around the center.
Councilwoman Shales asked if the city would be furnished with
architectural drawings .
Mr. Polson stated no, these would not be construction plans , but
they would be area plans which are visible and could be reviewed.
Councilwoman Shales stated that it would then be necessary to
obtain construction plans .
Mr. Polson stated this was correct and this was the reason the
fee for his services was low.
Councilman Schmidt noted that the Poison firm also provided for
architectural design and he asked what rates might be anticipated
for these services .
Mr. Poison stated the rates could be the same per hour or they
could be based on a lump sum.
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Page 3
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt,
to accept the proposal from Polson Architects for specified services
at the rate of $40.00 per hour, with the total fee not to exceed
$6, 240.00. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Report from A. S . Hansen, Inc. , on the results of valuation for the
Police Pension Fund.
Mr. Larry Dowling of A. S . Hansen reviewed with the Council the
results of their valuation of the actuarial status of the Police
Pension Fund as of January 1 , 1983 . This valuation is based upon
employee statistics as of that date, appropriate actuarial methods
and assumptions, and the schedule of benefits provided in the
Illinois Pension Code, Illinois Revised Statutes .
Mr. Jepson pointed out that the levy for the police and fire
department pension funds have been reduced $447, 000 as a result
of these studies .
Proposal for an actuarial valuation of the Firemen ' s Pension Fund
Mr. Dowling of A. S . Hansen submitted a proposal for an actuarial
valuation of the Firemen ' s Pension Fund. The cost of doing this
study would be between $2, 500 and $3,000.
eft. Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve this proposal . Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed downtown business assistance demonstration project using
Block Grant Funds .
Roger Dahlstrom advised the Council a total of $75, 000 is in the
budget for business incentives and building rehabilitation. During
the past three months the city staff has been working with Central
Elgin Corporation and officials of the First National Bank to
formulate an HCD funded reduced interest rate loan program applicable
to downtown Elgin.
The program would provide loans at an effectively reduced interest
rate through the principal reduction technique. Such loans would
be available for business start-up, expansion or building rehabili -
tation. The program would allow for the establishment of maximum
borrowing costs to begin and operate a business as well as creating
potential for code complaint availability of low rent floor space
for new small business ventures .
Applications which meet the criteria would be reviewed by a
committee consisting of members of the financial community,
associated with Central Elgin Corporation, city staff and a member
of the Planning Commission.
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Mr. Dahlstrom further stated that Al Berg, who plans to open
Al ' s Ice Creamery, will be the first recipient of the new loan
program.
Joe Giambelluca, owner of Beer n ' Brat Deli did not feel it was
fair to just pick one business for this type of break because
there were others who would like the opportunity to participate.
Mr. Dahlstrom stated that CEC had handled this request and
the 1st National Bank felt the request fit the criteria. Mr.
Giambelluca, or any other business owner in the target area
can submit requests to see if they meet the specifications .
Mayor Verbic stated this would be a shot in the arm to many
small business ventures and he suggested that Renard Jackson
be appointed from the Planning Commission to serve on the
Review Committee.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to approve this project and appoint Renard Jackson to the Review
Committee. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Recommendation from the Traffic Committee to install stop signs
at certain intersections along Blackhawk Drive.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam
to approve the Traffic Committee ' s recommendation. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Request by the Greater Elgin Senior Center for authority to
secure a $30,000 loan by placing a mortgage lien against the
property at 101 South Grove Avenue.
The Council reviewed a request from the Greater Elgin Senior Center
to reinstate the $30, 000 loan from the First National Bank. The
original loan was temporarily repaid to the First National Bank
with a questionable grant from the Region II Area Agency on Aging .
This loan repayment savied considerable interest costs to the
Senior Center. However, Region II should make a determination
on the grant before October 1 , 1983 and there is a strong possibility
that the grant was made in error.
If the grant was made in error, the Senior Center will need a
$30,000 loan to repay this grant . The First National Bank has
requested a resolution from the City for the Senior Center to
acquire a loan for this repayment.
Councilwoman Shales asked how the Senior Center would repay this
loan.
Bette Schoenholtz, Executive Director of the Senior Center stated
they have three fund raisers slated for the Center and they felt
they could pay the loan off in three years .
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Page 5
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt,
to approve the loan application and to direct staff to prepare
the necessary resolution. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposal to enter into a lease agreement with Elgin Dodge for
an Administrative vehicle.
Included in the Transportation Department ' s 1983 capital budget
was a replacement vehicle for Ray Moller. Instead of a purchase,
the RTA authorized a 3-year lease of a vehicle at a cost of
approximately $275.00 per month.
The recommendation is to award this lease agreement to the low
bidder, Elgin Dodge at the monthly cost of $229.09/month, this
amount is completely reimbursible through our RTA Operating Grant.
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen,
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Discussion relative to the accreditation of the Elgin Police
Department.
Chief Baird informed that Council that representatives from the
National Commission on Police Accreditation will be in Elgin on
Monday, September 12, 1983 , for purposes of test site evaluation
of the department. Chief Baird reminded the Council that Elgin
was one of five communities nationwide selected to participate
in this program.
The program is designed to evaluate the presenting operating
procedures and promote a more efficient police department.
Chief Baird also pointed out there would be no cost to the
City for this evaluation and a public hearing was scheduled
for September 12, 1983 at 9: 00 a.m.
Recommendation from the Fire Chief and Police Chief relative to
the need for a full -time director of the Public Safety Communications
Center.
The Council reviewed a recommendation from Chief Van De Voorde
and Chief Baird, relative to the communication system. Said
recommendations consisted of the following: ( 1 ) That a new
city department, to be called the Department of Communications ,
be created; ( 2) That a full -time director be hired to manage
the Department of Communications ; (3) That the director be responsible
for all aspects of public safety communications for the City of Elgin;
(4) The director would report directly to the City Manager, or his
designee, for matters of a routine, supervisory, and/or Adminis-
trative nature; and (5) In matters of procedure or policy jointly
involving both public safety agencies , the director would report
to and receive guidance and direction from a Communications Policy
Board, to be comprised of members of the police and fire departments
and city staff.
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rThe salary for the Director of Communications would be in the
f range of $26,448 to $32, 532, exclusive of benefits . These figures
correspond to salary range 43 C of the City of Elgin Management
"C" Group Salary Plan.
Councilman Gilliam asked if this position would be included in
the 1984 budget process .
Leo Nelson stated that it could be.
Councilwoman Shales stated that she liked the idea of this being
a separate department and felt that it would avoid a lot of
problems .
Deputy Connors stated that the Council has voted to go ahead with
the new Communications system and it was also important to have
proper control of said system.
Councilman Gilliam stated that he looked favorably upon this
recommendation but he preferred to look at it in total budget.
Mayor Verbic stated that he assumed that one of the present
operators might be qualified for this position, with additional
training.
Councilman Gilliam questioned if this would take the individual
away from other duties they might be performing presently.
Councilman Hansen stated he thought with the installation of the
new system that it might help reduce the manpower needed to
operate same.
Councilman Gilliam felt the Council should wait to look at this
in the context of the forthcoming budget .
Mayor Verbic stated the Council should look at the overall assess-
ment and the total impact on the budget .
Councilman Andersen stated that each time you create a department
it is escalated to hiring an assistant and an assistant to the
assistant, etc.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam,
to approve the idea of a non-uniform person to be in charge of
the communications systems and to have the City Manager bring
back a proposal with the budget process , reflecting any increase
in personnel and salaries . Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Shales
and Waters . Nays : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt and
Mayor Verbic.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion to evaluate the position and
r prioritize same at budget time. Councilwoman Shales seconded
said motion. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam Shales and Waters . Nays :
Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic.
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August 29, 1983
Page 7
eft Recommendation to amend certain sections of Chapter 18 of the
Municipal Code relative to subdivision regulations .
Mel Dahl advised the Council that the staff had met with the
representatives of the Home Builders Association of Greater
Chicago to review their comments relative to the City of Elgin' s
Building Codes , Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance.
As a result of said meeting the staff prepared a memorandum
containing 27 recommendations , which the Council also reviewed.
Councilman Gilliam stated that these changes should be referred
to the Building Commission for their imput before any action
is taken by the Council .
Councilman Hansen stated he thought that after the staff met
with the HBAHC representatives they were going to meet with
the Building Commission to pass on this imput.
Councilman Hansen asked how the city could avoid taking un-
developed park land, which it could not afford to develop or
maintain.
Roger Dahlstrom stated we could ask for a smaller conveyance of land,
request that said land be improved, and/or cash donations .
Mayor Verbic stated that he would like to see the problem of
detention land that is donated to the city addressed.
Roger Dahlstrom stated the city could consider what the cost of
developing the land might be, the cost of maintenance and then
decide whether or not they wanted to be the owners of said land.
Councilman Hansen stated that he would prefer not owning the land.
Mayor Verbic stated that perhaps staff could come back with further
recommendations regarding the donation of park and detention area
land. Staff was also requested to furnish the Building Commission
with all the imput received thus far.
Proposal to prepare a comprehensive amendment to the parking lot
ordinance.
Mr. Nelson stated that the Planning Department has prepared a
conceptual framework for a comprehensive amendment to the parking
lot ordinance, and the staff is at the point where they need
direction from the Council regarding the various elements of
their conceptual proposal , and regarding the timing of a compre-
hensive amendment in view of other on-going planning programs
and the Agenda for Action for the Comprehensive Plan.
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August 29, 1983
Page 8
Mayor Verbic stated that he has received many complaints about
the curb island requirement because of the upkeep factor and
perhaps this should be eliminated except for approaches and
access drives .
Councilman Hansen stated the city should protect the health and
welfare of it ' s citizens , but he felt since this is private
property the market place should decide whether they want the
curb islands .
Mr. Nelson stated the staff is asking for general directions
as to how the changes should be made.
Mr. Anthony A. Bonavolonta, developer of Tyler Creek Plaza,
stated that he definitely was against the curb islands , which
were costing $ 100,000 more in landscaping.
Mr. Nelson stated that relief could not be granted in this
instance unless the ordinance is changed.
Councilman Waters stated that he was comfortable with the
proposed changes, as outlined in the staff' s memorandum.
Councilman Hansen pointed out that if the curb islands are not
eliminated there is a good possibility that the Eagle Store
scheduled for the Tyler Creek Plaza will not situate there.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen,
to delete from the ordinance the requirement for interior curbing,
islands and landscaping thereon. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen
Gilliam and Waters .
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
to have the Planning Department present the recommendations made
to the Council this evening to the Planning Committee. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : Councilmen Gilliam and Waters .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen
to have the staff prepare the recommendations to the parking lot
ordinance on a high priority. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen Gilliam, Shales and
Waters .
Proposed 1983 G .O. Bond Issue.
The Council reviewed the following list of items proposed by staff
to be included in the 1983 G .O. Bond Issue:
Fire Station and Site Acquisition $ 950, 000
Communicaton Center Equipment 770,000
Alterations to Police Department 200,000
Alfred-Demmond Street Improvement 140,000
Ladder Truck - final payment 100,000
Financing costs 20,000
$2, 180,000
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August 29, 1983
Page 9
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen,
for the staff to proceed with the bond issue as herein set forth.
Yeas ; Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None.
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss acquisition of property, appointments to
boards and commissions and litigation. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays:
None. The meeting was adjourned at 11 : 05 p.m.
Marie Yearman, City Clerk
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
September 12, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6: 35 p.m. , in the Conference Room of City Hall . Members present:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Jentsch, Yearman and members of staff.
Authorization for Home Federal Savings and Loan to collect
payment Tor water bills .
The Council reviewed a recommendation from staff to give Home
Federal Savings of Elgin the authority to receive payments
for Elgin water bills . At the present time Gromers is the only
outside authorized agent to receive water bill payments . Gromers
may also charge the customer an additional 10 per bill and
Home Federal would like the same authority. This is particularly
beneficial since the City is no longer open on Saturdays .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales,
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas: Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Change Order No. 1 to Contract No. 5 with Seagren/Shales , Inc. for
improvements to the West Side Water Treatment Plant.
The proposed change order contains five items with a total increase
of $36,818.00 in the contract amount. The approval of Change Order
No. 1 would increase the total amount of Contract No. 5 with Seagren/
Shales, Inc. , from $758, 200 to $ 795, 018 .
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters,
to approve the subject Change Order. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Abstained: Councilwoman Shales .
Proposed agreement with Central Elgin Corporation.
The Council reviewed the proposed contract which provided that the
City would agree to pay C .E .C . $ 1 .00 for every $ 1 .00 raised by
C .E .C . from funds received through voluntary contributions , from
financial institutions , owners of property and retail merchants
for the purpose of aiding continued economic productivity of the
central business district.
Mr. Nelson stated that to date they have indicated they have raised
$ 14, 325 and they expect to raise that to $ 18,000. They have a
receivable with the city of $ 16, 500 and if we wrote them a check
for $ 16, 500 they would then pay the receivable.
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September 12, 1983
Page 2
Councilwoman Shales stated that she felt there was a need for
better representation of Elgin people on the C .E .C . Board and
she furnished the Council with a proposal for the formation
and function of said Board. Mrs . Shales further stated that
she would not be willing to support this Board unless something
was done.
Councilman Waters stated that some of the proposed members to
the Board might have a technical problem in qualifying.
Roger Dahlstrom pointed out that the Statutes require that members
either own or lease property within the district.
Mayor Verbic complimented Mrs . Shales on her proposal and felt
some good ideas had been expressed. The Mayor asked Mr. Nelson
to call a meeting with CEC members and present this proposal to
them, and to have the Legal Department check out the legality
of suggested board members to hold such office.
Councilman Hansen stated that he felt the accountability of
this committee was lacking and at the present time there are
5 such groups working with the central business district, with
no direction or unified structure.
e Councilman Waters stated there are two Councilmen and the City
Manager on the CEC Board so he did not feel there was no
accountability.
Councilman Schmidt stated the Council has taken most of the
initiative as far as the development of the South Grove area.
Mayor Verbic felt that maybe more people should be involved
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters,
to fund the C.E .C. Corporation as proposed by staff not to exceed
$ 18,000. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen Andersen and Hansen.
Continued discussion of the Capital Improvement Programs .
The Council reviewed a memorandum from staff wherein the Council
ranked the top 20 projects of the 40 projects submitted by
department heads to form the 5 year Capital Improvement Program.
The staff also included the projected bonds issues and special
assessments, projected annual debt requirements and long term
debt projections .
Councilman Hansen stated that in addition to this information he
would be interested in a comparison of the tax levy, tax rate
and G .O. Bond issues for the last 5 years , because he felt this
would be helpful in deciding where the Council wanted to go with
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September 12, 1983
Page 3
rates in the future. Councilman Hansen said that he feared if
we spend all the money now it will deprive future Councils and
generations of any capital improvements they may want.
Councilman Waters stated he would agree except that if you looked
at this plan only the first year ' s projects would be implemented
and the balance of the projects would not be cast in stone.
Mr. Nelson stated that he felt the Council was looking at a
spending level and he could bring in a schedule of how the
projects could be finances with a not to exceed amount to be
levied for capital improvements . Mr . Nelson stated this data
could be available within two weeks .
The Council agreed to re-discuss this matter at the Committee
of the Whole Meeting on September 26th. Said meeting to
commence at 5 : 30 p.m.
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters ,
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting and go into
Executive Session to discuss acquisition of property, appointments
to boards and commissions and litigation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Committee of the Whole Reconvened: 10: 15 p.m.
Discussion re parking in downtown area
Councilman Hansen stated that he had been approached by a citizen
who wanted to bowl at Schneider' s on a week night and was unable
to find a parking space and the Spiess Deck was closed. Mr. Hansen
said that since we have just spent $265, 000 to repair the deck
he felt the deck should be kept open in the evening for parking.
Mr. Nelson stated he would check into this .
Councilman Schmidt asked if the students using the lot across
from Schneiders were being ticketed.
Mr. Nelson stated they must be parking there during the day,
staying beyond the meter time and not feeding the meters because
the metermaids are not out in the evening.
Councilman Andersen also pointed out that the students are parking
in private lots and they may find their cars being towed out.
Someone at ECC should pass the word out at the school as to the
proper parking.
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September 12, 1983
Page 4
Councilman Hansen stated that two years ago he proposed that
the city eliminate all the parking meters , and he was making
this proposal now.
Councilman Andersen stated that then there would be a problem
with employees taking the spaces and parking all day.
Councilwoman Shales stated why would the employees take these
spaces away from customers .
Mayor Verbic stated that it would be necessary to look at dollars
and cents and the impact on the parking deck and controlled lot.
Councilman Hansen pointed out that in another year the Council
will have to deal with the parking deck because it is not going
to generate enough revenue to pay for maintenance and other costs .
Mayor Verbic suggested this matter be brought up for consideration
during the budget process .
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam,
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting and reconvene the
Executive Session. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None. The
meeting was adjourned at 10: 25 p.m.
Marie Yearman City Clerk
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
September 26, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6: 00 p.m. , in the E .O.C . Room of City Hall . Members present:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, and members of staff.
Discussion of the five year capital improvement program.
The Council reviewed Exhibit 1 which ranked the top twenty
projects to form the Capital Improvement Project. The projects
were listed in the order selected by the Council , but the year
each project is to be constructed is substantially that
recommended by the department heads . Several projects were
contingent upon the City receiving grants from the federal ,
state and county governments . However, only the City ' s share
of the cost is shown.
Using the project list from Exhibit 1 , the projected annual
debt requirements are on scheduled on Exhibit 11 . The annual
debt requirements are scheduled differently for 0.0. Bonds
and Special Assessments , so these are shown separately. All
debt matures over ten years at 8% interest
The projected annual long term debt requirements including
both existing debt and new debt were shown on Exhibit 111 .
In addition the estimated tax rates and projected assessed
valuations are shown. This exhibit provides an overview
of future property tax levies by year.
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the Otter Creek project will have
to be included in the proposed bond issue for the new Fire
Station and Communications Center, because instead of completing
this project in 1985, it is now necessary to complete it in
1984 in order to facilitate the State work on Larkin Avenue.
Mayor Verbic asked how much money we were talking about adding
to this bond issue.
Mr. Nelson stated $720, 000.
Councilman Hansen asked if Exhibit 111 reflected any contributions
out of the General Fund for the Capital Improvement Fund.
Mr. Bolerjack stated no, this does not go into the five year plan.
Councilman Hansen noted that five years of projects financed over
a ten year period would increas the tax rate to 64 cents by 1987,
and might prevent future councils from have much room to move,
if a five year plan is established.
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September 26, 1983
Page 2
Mayor Verbic stated that this just gives you an idea of what
the projects are but it is not cast in stone because in any
given year it ' s going to depend on the economy and things
could change as you go along. Two years from now you may
back an entirely different view of what is a priority.
The Mayor further stated that the South Grove Redevelopment,
Mid-Block Street Lighting, North McLean Blvd. , improvements,
Wing Street Improvements , were all committed priorities at
this point in time.
Councilman Hansen suggested that the Council decide what tax
rate the public could afford in these times , since we are up
to 292 cents already.
Councilman Waters stated he was not sure the average figure
is accurate of what the public is willing to bear and he
was not willing to stay below what is considered average
and delay projects .
Councilman Gilliam stated he thought the Council would pick
out four or five projects to be spread out over two or three
years and he felt five years was to long a period.
Mayor Verbic stated the Council could look at this each year
because we must look at the sign of the times and the money
that is available.
Councilman Hansen stated that we should also stop any staff
time or consulting time on projects that are not affordable.
Councilman Hansen further stated that he was not comfortable
taking one year at a time, but that he liked Councilman
Gilliam' s suggestion to look at two or three years .
Councilman Waters stated that perhaps the staff could sort
these projects out and show funding levels for a ten year
period.
Councilman Gilliam asked that the staff identify the items .
Mr. Nelson stated the staff could provide a list of the items
and show the various rates which would be incurred.
Councilman Hansen stated the Council should have the final
selection of these items .
Mayor Verbic stated the Council could use the staff recommendation
and then they would decide the spending level .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters,
to have the staff establish a tax schedule from 31 to 35 to
cover a ten year period and to project out which projects
could be included at different funding levels . Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Committee of the Whole Meeting
September 26, 1983
Councilman Hansen made a motion to make the Bay for Fire
State 5 a high priority. The Council indicated their approval ,
but no roll call was taken.
Recommendation to amend our agreement with the State in order
to secure an X-Ray Flurescent Instrument for the Lead Poisoning
Prevention Program.
The staff advised the Council that research by International
Systems determined that grant monies are not available for
the purchase of a monitor, but the State could put a monitor
on full loan if we assumed responsibility for the $ 1 , 200
yearly maintenance cost.
Councilman Waters asked if there was any financial commitment
beyond the $ 1 , 200.
Mr. Nelson replied no.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen,
for the staff to proceed to the loan of this monitor under
the terms provided herein. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Additional information relative to the claim for payment by
the Richter Awning Company.
Councilman Andersen stated that he raised the original question
on this matter because he was confused as to why we offer
something for bid and then we accept something less and if a
change was necessary why was this not done in the form of a
Change Order.
Councilman Andersen stated this was not fair to the other people
who bid and the actual cash difference, with no labor, was
$423 .54.
Mr. Nelson stated the city did not bid this item because the
general contractor took the proposal for awnings out of Phase
1 because of the street work which was taking place. The
architect recommended this work be handled through a city
purchase order.
Councilman Waters felt the issue had been resolved and he
did not think payment should be withheld.
Councilman Andersen stated there is $453 .84 difference in the
material used and in fairness to the other bidders this should
be deducted.
Councilman Hansen asked when this was taken out of the Verdico
Contract, who was responsible for the material and installation.
Mayor Verbic replied the architect.
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September 26, 1983
Page 4
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam, to pay the Richter bill less $ 158 . 16, said amount
being the difference quoted by the architect . Yeas :
Councilmen Gilliam, Shales, and Waters . Nays : Councilmen
Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen to pay the Richter bill less the $423 .54. Yeas :
Councilmen Hansen and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales and Waters .
Councilman Gilliam asked Councilman Andersen where he had
obtained the $425 .54 figure.
Councilman Andersen stated this was from the second lowest
bidder.
Councilman Gilliam did not feel the Council should take
the figures from someone who has lost the contract.
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt, that Cassell and Burnidge should appraise the
matter and establish the difference in cost of the materials .
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales ,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Discussion and review of the preliminary annexation agreement
submitted by the developers of the airport property.
Roger Dahlstrom submitted to the Council the following summary
of unique requests by the petitioners in connection with their
proposed annexation to the city:
1 . Relocation and improvement of Airport Road at no expense
to the developer, from the State Route 31 intersection
through the subject property, east and south under the
tollway bridge to West River Road.
2. Improvements to the State Route 31 /Airport Road intersection
at no expense to the developer.
3. Abatement of the City ' s portion of the property tax until
the issuance of individual occupance permits .
4. Rebate to the developer of a presently unspecified percent
of all retailers ' occupational taxes , service occupation
taxes , and hotel /motel rental taxes for a presently un-
specified period of time.
Mr. Dahlstrom stated that the State will only tell you the
sales tax which is paid when fifty or more sale ' s tax licenses
are applied for and this present agreement does not address
this fact.
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September 26, 1983
Page 5
Mr. Nelson stated that if these concessions were considered
it would be setting a policy for other developments .
Mayor Verbic stated that we must be careful not to set a
precedent and there is a need to see a financial impact study
to see what income there will be to the city. The Mayor also
pointed out that what is fair for one is fair for all .
Councilman Hansen stated that as a government unit we have a
responsibility to provide roads and utilities and he would
think that the State would also be involved with Route 31 .
Mayor Verbic stated that all you had to look at was Spring
Hill wherein the developers bore the cost of the intersection
improvements, and after the Woodfield development I . D.O.T.
stated they would not finance any more accesses for shopping
centers .
Counsel Jentsch stated there is a great deal of doubt as to
whether the concessions relating to the tax abatements could
be accomplished legally and this should be researched. This
could take a great deal of time and he would not want to do
this unless it is determined that the project is going to
proceed.
Mr. Nelson stated that in any case only 25% of the property
tax could be abated.
Charles Burnidge stated there are 185 acres here being
considered for commercial , research and development and
industrial use and he would urge the Council , staff and
developers to set up discussions in an effort to work out
these matters . Mr. Burnidge stated that Barton & Aschman
are developing a financial impact study for the project.
Councilman Waters stated that he agreed we would be setting
a precedent, but the city should be open to this type of
project and we have to be willing to make that precedent.
Councilman Hansen stated that he was comfortable with the public
works aspect because we have provided arterial streets to other
developments and we should try to get some help from the State.
Mr. Hansen further stated that he did have problems with the
other requests because of legistics in dealing with other
developments .
Mayor Verbic stated he felt the financial impact study and
legal research was needed in order for the Council to come
close to any decision regarding the project.
Mr. Burnidge state he would furnish the Council with the
impact study as soon as it was available and he would have
Attorney Heimberg contact Ery Jentsch.
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Spetember 26, 1983
Page 6
Communications Center
Mr. Nelson advised the Council that a meeting was scheduled
tomorrow with Sachs/Freeman to discuss the specifications
for the communications center and he was going to stipulate
to the consultants that either Sachs/Freeman or the low
bidder for the project accept responsibility for the overall
system once it is installed, and also that a performance
bond be posted as a guarantee for such performance.
Councilman Gilliam stated he would still like to see the
city go with Motorola because he felt they will still be
the low bidder and we will not find anyone who wants to
guarantee a piecemeal system.
Special Council Meeting
The Council agreed to hold a special meeting on October 31 ,
1983, at 7: 00 P.M. , to open the fire station bids .
Halloween Hours
The Council agreed to set October 31 , 1983, for Halloween
Trick or Treat and to suggest to the parents that 9: 00 p.m. ,
end said activities .
Adjournment
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen, to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting
and go into Executive Session to discuss acquisition of
property, appointments to boards and commissions and
litigation. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
The meeting was adjourned at 9: 30 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
October 10, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6: 40 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Shales , Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Councilman Schmidt arrived at 7: 28 p.m.
Absent: Councilmen Gilliam and Hansen.
Also present: Aydt, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff.
Recommendation relative to the proposed sanitary sewer for
sections of Second Street and Lyle Avenue in the McIntosh
Subdivision.
Gary Miller advised the Council that a meeting was held on
July 14th to discuss this project with the property owners .
Thirty-five property owners attended this meeting and prior
to the start of that meeting, staff received a petition
signed by twenty-four owners who were opposed to the sanitary
sewer project.
A considerable amount of time was spent attempting to explain
the overall project, including cost estimates , pay-back plans
rk and procedures , but the staff was confronted with much
criticism and opposition, but did receive some support for
the project from those in attendance.
The staff is now recommending that the project be scaled down
to deal with only twenty property owners , of which only two
object at the present time. We could eliminate one-third of
the failing septic systems , which are in the low area and in
most need of a remedy. More importantly we will have completed
a major portion of the ten inch downstream sanitary sewer,
which could then be extended at a later date as owners become
more receptive to the concept of a sanitary sewer project.
The preliminary cost of this modified sewer project totals
$97,451 .00 and the City' s share could amount to approximately
$48, 725 .00 as public benefit.
Councilwoman Shales asked what the property owners objected to.
Mr. Miller stated money seemed to be the main issue and then
there were some who had just installed new septic systems .
Mr. Aydt stated that the smaller proposal would take care
of those who really needed the relief.
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters , to approve the staff ' s recommendation and proceed
with the modified plan. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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Page 2
Recommendation to proceed with additional engineering for
the eroposed improvement to South Weston Avenue between
Larkin and Van.
Mr. Miller advised the staff had a meeting with the residents
in this area and 12 of the 13 residents attended the meeting.
The majority of the property owners are in agreement that
they would like to have the street improvement completed.
The staff discussed the two possible design varients : ( 1 )
leave the street open as it is , or ( 2) install a cul -de-sac
at the north end of Weston Avenue. A vote was taken and it
appeared there is a 50-50 split for and against the cul -de-sac.
Mr. Miller recommended that the Council authorize staff to
proceed with the preliminary engineering and cost breakdowns .
The staff would also like to prepare a questionaire and poll
the surrounding area affected by this project, and bring
same back to the Council .
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters , to proceed with the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays :
None.
Recommendation to retain Fluid Conservation Service of Austin,
Texas to conduct a water leak survey.
The staff advised the Council that proposals were sought from
two firms who do leak survey work by the method of sound level
measurements . Based on previous work three areas of the
distribution system have been selected for the initial survey
consisting of about 300, 000 feet of watermain. It is believed
that these areas have the greatest potential for leaks .
The proposals consist of two phases of work, the first is the
sound survey of approximately 300,000 feet of watermain and
the second is the pin pointing of leaks where indicated by
the sound survey.
Fluid Conservation Service submitted a proposal in the amount
of $9,890 and Associated Technical Services submitted a
proposal of $ 10, 160.
The staff recommended that Fluid Conservation be authorized to
proceed based on their proposal . There is $ 10,000 in the 1983
budget for leak survey.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales,
to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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October 10, 1983
Page 3
Report from Charles Cassell relative to the difference in
cost between 3/4" I . D. pipe and fittings and 1 " I . D. pipe
and fittings for the ECC Fountain Square Campus Awnings .
The Council reviewed a letter from Charles Cassell in which
he stated that the total cost savings of using 3/4" I . D.
pipe is as follows :
Pipe $ 158. 16
Fittings 70. 20
Total $228 . 36
Mr. Cassell further stated that he had discussed these costs
with Richter Awning and while he agrees with the estimate, if
it will help resolve the issue, he is willing to deduct the
greater amount of $423 .54 from his contract, the $423 .54 is
the amount discussed at the previous Council meeting.
Councilman Waters read the following prepared statement:
"The Council has now publicly debated the isue of the contractor
for the awning at Fountain Square Campus on at least 3 occasions
since the opening of the new facility. In addition, Council
members have gone to the press to provide additional information
for additional exposure. This Council committed over $4.5
million to the renovation of a vacant department store, a
project which created a broad base of enthusiasm in the
community. Now that the work is completed, what has the
Council focused public attention to, what has the Council
conveyed to citizens of Elgin in terms of its reaction ? A
negative hassle that represents less than 1 / 10th of 1% of
the total project.
Nearly everyone who has toured or now utilizes the new facility
has been simply amazed at the renovation, especially those who
remember the building in the latter years of Sears ' occupancy.
FSC has become a source of community pride in the downtown area,
and a radiating source of influence on the owners of buildings
surrounding it. It is a job well done that must be recognized
even by those who may have opposed it in the first place. It
is a project this Council should share with others , a pride in
accomplishment.
An yet where have been the acknowledgments and accolades ? When
did the Council publicly thank the firm of Cassel and Burnidge
for their vision and innovation ? When has the Council publicly
thanked the contractors who worked double duty to meet the short
time constraints while maintaining concerns for quality workman-
ship ? When did the Council congratulate the manager and his
staff for a job well done ? When did the Council convey to its
public their pride in the project ?
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October 10, 1983
Page 4
Instead of these acknowledgments, the Council has focused
the public attention upon its criticism of a sub-contractor
whose only error was he worked in good faith and cooperation
with the architect supervisor in trading off improvements
rather than demanding change orders which again would have
represented less than 1 / 10th of 1% of the total project. Not
content with publicly damaging this person' s reputation once,
the Council has kept the issue alive with spurious figures and
accusations which have been provided by the man ' s competitor,
the competitor who is sore because he didn' t get the bid. I
do not know Mr. Richter personally, but I am convinced that
the actions of this Council have cost him far more than what
some feel he has gained by building his project under speci -
fications .
In my opinion, the Council should be gratefl to the supervising
architects for exercising of their professional judgment in
weighing the trade-offs between the dimension of pipe and the
added end pieces and support brackets . Hindsight says a change
order should have been made, but in the time frame considered
and within the context of the size of the contract compared
with the total project, it is understandable why judgment was
exercised instead. The Council should be thankful that Mr.
Richter cared enough about the project to offer adjustments,
based upon his experience, which improved the plans drawn up
by the architects . We showed our gratitude by entertaining
a motion to deduct from Mr. Richter ' s contract an amount
flippantly suggested by his competitor. We have show our
gratitude by keeping the issue alive, by further sullying
the professional reputation of Mr. Richter. What more could
a competitor ask for ? And why ? Because we want to make an
example ? Because we believe all persons working for the city
are intent upon cutting corners and now we have an example to
say, "See I told you so ?"
Fellow council members, please, enough is enough: We have
cheapened ourselves in the eyes of others and we have damaged
too many others enough . I won ' t ask that an apology be extended
to all I personally believe deserve an apology, but I implore
you to put this to rest, to end this charade, to end this abuse
of authority, and pay the man his full due. The example has
been made, if this is the issue, and there is nothing more to
gain, but lots to lose."
Mayor Verbic stated that he felt there was a valid issue to
this matter and in the future any variation of the specifications
should come to the Council in the form of a change order.
Councilman Andersen made a motion to pay the Richter statement
deducting the $423 .54 as proposed in Mr. Cassell ' s letter. (This
motion died for lack of a second. )
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October 10, 1983
Page 5
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to pay the full amount of the contract with Richter
Awning. Yeas : Councilmen Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : Councilman Andersen.
Recommendation from Mel Dahl to replace sections of curb,
gutter and sidewalk and driveway approaches as part of the
Bluff City watermain project .
The staff advised the Council this work was required in
connection with the installation of the watermain. Two
quotes for this work were received from Quindell Construction
for $2, 985.00 and Zimmerman Construction for $3, 011 .00.
Mr. Dahl asked permission to award the contract for this
project to Quindell Construction.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to award the contract to Quindell Construction for
$2, 985 .00. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Shales , Waters and
Mayor Verbic.
Recommendation for painting the trim on Fire Station #5 .
Acting on the Council ' s direction to solicit proposals for
painting the exterior of Station #5, the city received the
following proposals :
Michael T. Joy Painting & Decorating $3, 285.00
Ron Baker Painting & Decorating 3, 350.00
The staff is recommending that the contract be awarded to
the low bidder, Michael T. Joy Painting.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters , to award this contract to Michael T. Joy Painting.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Proposal to replace the concrete pad over the fuel tanks at
the Crystal Street Bus Garage.
Based upon the RTA ' s letter of authorization, the staff
requested that the Council authorize a contract with the
low offeror, Wayne E . Zimmerman Construction, for a total
cost of $4,490.00 for the replacement of the concrete pad
over the diesel fuel tanks at the Bus Garage.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales, to award the contract to Wayne E . Zimmerman Construction
for $4,490.00. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Shales, Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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October 10, 1983
Page 6
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Halloween Trick or Treat Hours
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to set 8: 00 p.m. as the curfew for trick or treating
on Halloween. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Groundbreaking for new RTA Transportation Facility.
Mayor Verbic announced this groundbreaking for this facility
would be held on November 2nd, at 10: 00 a.m.
Special Council Meeting Schedules
The Council agreed to meet on the following dates :
Thursday, October 20, 1983 at 7: 00 p.m. , for preliminary
discussion on the airport property annexation.
Monday, October 31 , 1983 at 7 : 00 p.m. , for the opening
of the new fire station bids .
Adjournment
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to
go into the regular Council Meeting . Yeas: Councilmen
Andersen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic . Nays :
None. The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 00 p.m.
Marie Yearman City Clerk
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
October 20, 1983
A Special Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order
at 7: 10 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Schmidt,
Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: Councilman Hansen.
Also present : Jentsch, Yearman and members of staff.
Preliminary discussion of annexation agreement submitted by
the developers of the airport property.
Charles Burnidge stated that after meeting with the staff,
the Mayor and Mr. Nelson, he felt the Council should meet
to go over the changes proposed in the annexation agreement
which is set for public hearing on October 24th. Mr. Burnidge
also felt the Council should know more about the depth of the
project.
Mr. Burnidge explained that the Melvin Simon Company, which
is the second largest owner of shopping center businesses, with
businesses located in eighteen different states , is to be the
prime investor in this project.
Mr. Burnidge displayed a preliminary draft of the project which
reflected the proposed sites for a hotel , restaurant, reasearch
and development, light industrial and commercial development,
for a total of 250, 000 square feet.
Negotiations have been completed with the Elgin Sanitary District,
and the developer, Dr. Sullivan, and the Simon Company would like
to have the first phase of the project consisting of 120, 000
square feet completed by next Fall .
The project should generate $400, 000 in sales tax annually. The
land and improvement costs to the developers is from nine to ten
million.
Mr. Burnidge stated that the developers were looking for the
following relief from the City:
( 1 ) The redesigning and improvement of the intersection at Route
31 and Airport Road. The approximate cost to the City $400,000,
unless the developer could buy the Wonder Bread distribution
center, which would provide an ideal location for the intersection,
then the costs are estimated at $700, 000.
( 2) Relocation and construction of the present Frontage Road to
take it through the development at an estimated cost of $ 1 . 2
million to $ 1 .4 million.
(3) That the City would endeavor to have the State widen Route
31 into a four- lane highway up to the improvements which have
been made at the Chateau Louise Resort.
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October 20, 1983
Page 2
Mr. Burnidge stated that he had asked why the State had not
included this stretch of highway when the improvements were
made to Route 31 north of Elgin. Mr. Ziejewski of IDOT
informed Mr. Burnidge this had not been done because the
City of Elgin had discouraged this because of Spring Hill .
Mr. Burnidge asked that the City induce the State to install
these improvements in order that the traffic from the north
would have a good highway to travel to the proposed project.
The developer would furnish the up-front money for these
projects , excepting therefrom the Route 31 improvements ,
and they would ask the city to reimburse them over an extended
period of time out of tax revenues from the project.
Mr. Burnidge stated that at this point in time they were
proposing 100% reimbursement, but they would be willing to
negotiate the amount of the reimbursement and the period
of time for same.
Mr. Pat Ryan of Baird and Warner advised the Council that his
firm had mailed out nationally 25, 000 brochures to corporations
showing what Elgin has to offer. Mr. Ryan stated that Venture
is interested in the site and they are presently trying to
market the property to a major hotel chain such as Sherton,
Hilton, Mariott or Stouffers, and to large corporations .
Councilman Schmidt asked where the money would come from to
provide such services as police and fire protection if the
city agreed to the 100% reimbursement.
Mr. Burnidge stated that was the reason for the meeting tonight,
to try and satisfy the needs and perhaps they could talk about
a longer payback period.
Councilman Schmidt stated he would like to see the reimbursement
reduced and the payback period extended.
Mr. Burnidge stated the impact study reflected the employment
of 5700 employees with 100 to 300 needed to build the project.
Mayor Verbic stated that the Council needs to ask themselves
if they are willing to participate in the improvements and if
so how much and for how long.
Councilman Schmidt stated this would really blow the South
Grove Redevelopment to the wind.
Mr. Ryan pointed out that if Venture does not go into this
project they will go to Spring Hill .
Councilman Waters stated that he would be willing to participate
and that he was excited about the project.
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October 20, 1983
Page 3
Mayor Verbic stated the Council should look at this concept
step by step. The Annexation agreement is set for Monday
evening and there will be revisions to that agreement. Does
the Council want to participate in the requested improvements
and how much participation, and does the city want to set
this precedent for other developers .
Councilman Schmidt indicated the city should participate to
some extent.
Councilman Gilliam stated he was at zero participation but he
would be willing to discuss or negotiate this matter.
Councilwoman Shales stated that she was willing to discuss
the matter.
Councilman Andersen stated that the Council has been stampeded
into decisions they have lived to regret and he was not going
to give away the farm.
Counsel Jentsch stated that the Council would be holding a
public hearing for an annexation agreement which would have
to be revised and in view of this the public hearing could
be opened and closed and a new date set for a hearing on
the revised agreement.
Mayor Verbic stated that the Council had been supplied with
all the latest information and it would now be up to them as
to how they wanted to proceed.
The Mayor called for adjournment of the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
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Marie Yearman, ity Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
October 24, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6 :40 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff.
Discussion regarding the hardship being created by the
application of the city' s sign ordinance to the proposed
relocation of the McDonalds sign.
Attorney Peter Bazos stated that he was representing Jerry
Bear owner of the McDonalds franchise at 1480 Larkin Avenue.
Mr. Bear has been notified by IDOT that as part of the
widening of Larking Avenue, the Illinois Department of
Transportation has determined that the McDonald ' s sign
will overhand the widened right-of-way, and therefore they
plan to condemn the sign.
Mr. Bear would like to move the existing sign so that it will
not overhand the public right-of-way, but under the existing
provisions of the city' s community graphics ordinance, the
movement of this sign is not permitted.
Mr. Bazos suggested the following as a solution to his client ' s
problem:
1 . The abatement provision in Section 19.45 . 260 should be
repealed. This would grandfather in all signs which were
in existence prior to the adoption of the ordinance and
which are not in conformity to the ordinance as lawful ,
non-conforming uses .
2. Section 19.45 . 260 ( the non-conforming use provision) should
be amended to provide that a non-conforming sign can be
moved to another location on the same parcel when the
sign in its existing location becomes subject to condemnation
through eminent domain.
Jerry Deering from the city ' s planning staff, submitted the
following summary in a memorandum dated October 24th:
The existing nonconforming Larkin MacDonald ' s sign is 393
square feet in surface and 32 feet in height . The sign
ordinance permits a sign 80 square feet in suraface and 22 feet
in height .
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October 24, 1983
Page 2
The abatement provision must undoubtedly be eliminated.
However, the elimination of the abatement provision should
be accompanied with a re-evaluation of the continuation of
nonconforming graphics provision for the purpose of reinforcing
the eventual elimination of all remaining nonconforming graphics .
It should be noted that the overwhelming majority of free-
standing signs on Larkin Avenue between Airlite Street and
McLean Boulevard are in conformance with the sign ordinance,
and that the Larkin MacDonalds will receive damages for the
condemnation of the subject sign. The damages will cover
the cost of a new conforming sign.
Mr. Bazos stated that his client wants to retain the present
sign because of business visibility and he is not interested
in the compensated damages .
Mayor Verbic stated he would be inclined to go with a text
amendment to allow the removal of the sign as a variation.
Councilman Hansen stated he could support the Mayor ' s suggestion
but he would also like the staff to work on the sign ordinance,
and bring their recommendations to the Council .
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Hansen
that a text amendment to the ordinance be recommended to the
Planning Commission. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Waters .
Abstained: Councilman Gilliam.
Proposed traffic signals for Illinois Route 25 ( Liberty Street)
and Park Street.
Mr. Nelson stated that the State is ready to proceed with this
project next year and the staff has prepared a list of nine
comments and questions relative to the project, which they
will pursue with the State. The staff agrees that all parking
along Liberty Street between Lillie and Addison should be
eliminated and that the city should proceed with this project.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt,
to proceed with this project. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Proposal for an adult crossing guard at Lawrence Avenue and
Jackson Street.
Approximately 25 children use the cossing on Lawrence at
Jackson four times a day and with the volume and speed of
traffic as well as the street curvature it is extremely
difficult for the children to cross the street.
The Traffic Committee is recommending that an adult school
crossing guard be placed at this intersection.
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October 24, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters, to proceed with the Traffic Committee ' s recommendation.
Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. Abstained: Councilman Gilliam.
Proposal from IDOT to install a new traffic signal at Illinois
Route 25 ( Liberty Street) and Bluff City Boulevard and to
modernize the traffic signal- at Illinois Route 25 (St. Charles
Street) and Bluff City Boulevard.
The Council reviewed the foregoing proposal which provided
for the city ' s participation in the amount of $ 12,000, ( Ill .
25 Liberty and Bluff City Blvd. , $6, 000 and Ill . 25 St.
Charles and Bluff City Blvd. , $6,000) .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales , to have staff proceed with this project. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Discussion re proposed changes in the Dahlquist annexation
agreement.
Attorney Frandsen stated that his clients were asking for a
delay in recording the annexation for eighteen months . The
purpose in requesting this delay is to give his clients the
opportunity to seek financing and to market the project.
Gary Miller stated that the objections he had raised in his
October 17th memorandum had now been satisfied and he had
no problem with the revised agreement.
Mayor Verbic stated it was his understanding that construction
would commence this Fall .
Mr. Dahlquist stated the project was scheduled for this Fall ,
but because of delays in getting the matter approved by the
Council , and problems in obtaining the easements , this was
not possible.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen,
to proceed with the amendment to the annexation agreement to
provide that the actual annexation and zoning would not occur
until the earlier of 18 months after the agreement is signed
or 21 days after a certified request from the owner. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed agreement with Kane County authorizing the City to
provide for snow and ice control on Big Timber Road between
Route 31 and Randall Road.
Committee of the Whole Meeting
October 24, 1983
Page 4
Kane County is again asking Elgin to provide snow and ice
control on Big Timber Road from State Street to Randall
Road. The county reimburses Elgin for material , labor
and equipment costs .
The staff have experienced no operational difficulties the
past two winters and recommend that the city enter into an
agreement for this service this year.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters , to approve the staff' s recommendation. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed sto. signs at Waverly Drive and Hunter in the
Parkwood subdivision and Jamestown Lane at North Lyle
Avenue in the Williamsburg subdivision.
The Council reviewed a recommendation from the Traffic
Committee to install Stop signs at the aforementioned
intersections .
Councilman Schmidt made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to approve the Traffic Committee' s recommendation.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales ,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed adoption of the BOCA fire prevention code and the
BOCA basic mechanical code.
Mayor Verbic stated that it was his understanding that this
would go to the building commission first for their evaluation.
Deputy Knust stated that his department would like to have
the revisions as they relate to electrical , plumbing and
building reviewed by the commission members who have the
expertise in these areas .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam,
that the revisions be reviewed by the Electrical , Plumbing,
Building commissions , together with representatives from
the Greater Chicago Home Builders Association at a joint meeting.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Signage relative to drunk driving.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gilliam,
to mount signs at the entrance to the city indicating the city
11 is involved in the State DUI Program. The signs are to be
furnished by the State. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
October 24, 1983
Page 5
(lib‘ Offer to purchase city property behind Fire Station #2
The Council reviewed a letter from Leo Goldschmidt in which
he indicated an interest to purchase the 4. 7 acres owned by
the city to develop either with townhouses as an addition
to Tyler Bluff, or with single family homes .
Mr. Nelson stated that the city has always followed the
statute in selling any real estate by using the bidding
process .
Counsel Jentsch stated that on previous occasions the
city has had the property appraised and has used that
appraisal figure as the minimum bid.
Councilman Gilliam stated we should do it as has been
done before. Have it appraised and put out for bid.
The remaining council members agreed with Councilman
Gilliam.
Mr. Nelson stated he could include the property on Congdon
and Hiawatha, which is also surplus and have staff work
up a minimum bid.
Capital Improvement Program
Mr. Nelson furnished the Council with Schedule 1 of a Capital
Improvement Program using $0.31 / 100 A.V . property tax levy and
Schedule II using $0.35/$ 100 A.V . Property Tax levy.
Adjournment to Executive Session
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman Schmidt,
to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting to go into Executive
Session to discuss acquisition of property, litigation, appoint-
ments to boards and commissions and personnel . Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor
Verbic. Nays : None. The meeting was adjourned at 10: 20 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
November 7, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order
at 6 : 20 p.m. , in the EOC Room in City Hall . Members
present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic . Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman and members of staff.
Budget briefing on the proposed 1984 Budget.
Mr. Nelson and Mr. Bolerjack reviewed with the Council
the proposed 1984 budget, including means of financing,
sales tax receipts , general fund expenditures , general
fund budget summary, general fund personal services ,
general fund workforce, property tax process , property
tax information, tax rates and tax levies .
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the recommended 1984 General
Fund budget totals $ 17, 359, 780, or 4. 1 percent more than
the one adopted for 1983 . Mr . Nelson stated that in
the preparation of said budget the staff had tried to be
very conservative.
Community Development
Councilman Hansen questioned the proposed part-time staff.
Jim Aydt stated a full -time typist had gone part-time and
there were plans to have a part-time intern next year.
Councilman Hansen asked if the purchase of a microcomputer
and printer would reduce any employee hours .
Roger Dahlstrom stated that presently he had to reassign
duties in order to get the clerical work done.
Councilman Hansen stated he could support the project in
view of the projected plans to computerize an inventory
of all the businesses in town.
Mayor Verbic asked if there would be any possibility of
putting the Economic Development Commission within the
management of the city.
Mr. Nelson stated that Community Development is doing a
large part of this work now and there is a need to
coordinate this with the Chamber of Commerce, and this
type of change would necessitate another staff person.
Committee of the Whole Meeting
November 7, 1983
Page 2
Councilman Hansen stated that when the Council is listening
to the Chamber presentation they should consider that the
city is presently giving the Economic Development Commission
$21 , 000, the Chamber of Commerce $25 , 000 and $ 10, 000 to the
Central Elgin Corporation.
Councilman Andersen stated the Council should also consider
that the Chamber also works for towns outside of Elgin, such
as Dundee and South Elgin.
Mayor and Council Group - no questions
City Manager ' s Office
Councilman Hansen asked what the proposed increase was
for the non-contract people .
Mr. Nelson stated 4% across the board.
Councilman Schmidt asked if there was any possibility
that the Council members could be included in the city ' s
hospitalization plan.
Mr. Aydt stated this could be done.
Councilman Schmidt asked that this be looked into.
Mayor Verbic asked the Council how they felt about
increasing the Council ' s salary in 1985 since we are
the lowest in the area.
Mr. Nelson stated the staff could bring back figures
as to what is being paid in other cities of similar size.
Purchasing
Councilman Hansen noted the regular employee earnings was
up 6 .4%.
Mr. Sarro stated he has one employee who is in range and
is also entitled to a 52% increase under contract.
Mr. Hansen stated if this employee is described as a
purchasing assistant it sounds like she should be in
the salaried group.
Mr. Nelson stated this position has always been in the
Clerical /Technical Group.
Personnel
Councilman Waters asked if there were any competitive
companies who offered testing for the police and firemen.
Chief Baird stated these prices are comparable and the
vendors are selected by the Police and Board Commission.
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November 7, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Andersen stated this reminded him that the
Council had said they wished to meet with the Police
and Fire Commission.
Mr. Nelson stated he would arrange the meeting.
Mayor Verbic noted $4,000 budgeted under Personnel /
Legal Services .
Mr. Aydt stated these are services rendered in connection
with labor relations and it was more appropriate to show
this in Personnel as opposed to showing it under Legal
Department. The contract with the employee groups will
start again next year and as yet the full ramifications
of Bill 536 are unknown.
Councilman Hansen mentioned that he thought the handling
of the workmen ' s compensation matter should be through
the personnel department as opposed to the purchasing
department handling same.
Councilman Hansen also noted that he has never seen
a position posted for help wanted.
Mr. Nelson stated in the past couple of years there
have just been openings for part-timers and notices
have been sent out to the departments for these positions.
Mr. Aydt stated only two civil service examinations had
been given this year and these lists are good for one year.
Councilman Hansen stated that there doesn ' t seem to be
a big turn over of personnel and since there are three
people in the personnel department there may be room
for some cost reductions .
Mr. Aydt stated the receptionist takes care of all the
telephone and in person informational matters and in
effect works for the entire city staff.
All of the day to day health insurance claims are handled
through the personnel assistant.
Legal Department
Mayor Verbic questioned Personal Services Recovered.
Mr. Nelson stated this is for work charged back to
other city departments .
Councilman Hansen stated there was no longer any fee
charged in connection with industrial revenue bond issues .
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November 21 , 1983
Page 4
Mr. Nelson stated that is correct.
Councilman Hansen stated he would be in favor of a word
processer for the Legal Department because all of the
lawyers sueing us have them at their disposal .
Mr. Nelson stated that further on in the budget the
Council would see that the staff is suggesting this
equipment for the Finance Department but it would also
be available to the Legal Department.
Human Relations Commission
Councilman Waters stated that under the Special Events
Expense there is an increase of $840.00 and when this
was set up last year the Council was told the revenue
would exceed the expenses .
Mr. Nelson stated this request comes from the Commission.
Councilman Waters stated he would still like to see the
staff at the Hemmens handle these events .
Mayor Verbic stated he would like to know more about the
programs .
Councilman Gilliam suggested that the Chairman of the
Commission and Walter Blalark be asked to address this
matter at a meeting .
Finance Department
Councilman Hansen noted a 14. 3% increase in personal services .
Mr. Nelson stated this provides for the upgrading of the
vacant Programmer position to that of Analyst/Programmer
and the filling of that position.
Councilman Hansen stated that unless you are turning out
more data, why another body.
Mr. Nelson stated there is need for technical assistance
in planning .
Adjournment
The Council agreed to meet at 5: 30 p.m. on November 14th,
for further discussion of the budget. The meeting was
adjourned at 9: 30 p.m.
Marie Yearman, ity Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
November 7, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order
at 6 : 20 p.m. , in the EOC Room in City Hall . Members
present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman and members of staff.
Budget briefing on the proposed 1984 Budget.
Mr. Nelson and Mr. Bolerjack reviewed with the Council
the proposed 1984 budget , including means of financing,
sales tax receipts , general fund expenditures , general
fund budget summary, general fund personal services ,
general fund workforce, property tax process , property
tax information, tax rates and tax levies .
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the recommended 1984 General
Fund budget totals $ 17, 359, 780, or 4. 1 percent more than
the one adopted for 1983 . Mr . Nelson stated that in
the preparation of said budget the staff had tried to be
very conservative.
Community Development
Councilman Hansen questioned the proposed part-time staff .
Jim Aydt stated a full -time typist had gone part-time and
there were plans to have a part-time intern next year .
Councilman Hansen asked if the purchase of a microcomputer
and printer would reduce any employee hours .
Roger Dahlstrom stated that presently he had to reassign
duties in order to get the clerical work done.
Councilman Hansen stated he could support the project in
view of the projected plans to computerize an inventory
of all the businesses in town.
Mayor Verbic asked if there would be any possibility of
putting the Economic Development Commission within the
management of the city.
Mr. Nelson stated that Community Development is doing a
large part of this work now and there is a need to
coordinate this with the Chamber of Commerce, and this
type of change would necessitate another staff person.
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November 7, 1983
Page 2
Councilman Hansen stated that when the Council is listening
to the Chamber presentation they should consider that the
city is presently giving the Economic Development Commission
$21 ,000, the Chamber of Commerce $25 , 000 and $ 10, 000 to the
Central Elgin Corporation.
Councilman Andersen stated the Council should also consider
that the Chamber also works for towns outside of Elgin, such
as Dundee and South Elgin.
Mayor and Council Group - no questions
City Manager ' s Office
Councilman Hansen asked what the proposed increase was
for the non-contract people.
Mr. Nelson stated 4% across the board.
Councilman Schmidt asked if there was any possibility
that the Council members could be included in the city' s
hospitalization plan.
Mr. Aydt stated this could be done.
Councilman Schmidt asked that this be looked into.
Mayor Verbic asked the Council how they felt about
increasing the Council ' s salary in 1985 since we are
the lowest in the area.
Mr. Nelson stated the staff could bring back figures
as to what is being paid in other cities of similar size.
Purchasing
Councilman Hansen noted the regular employee earnings was
up 6.4%.
Mr. Sarro stated he has one employee who is in range and
is also entitled to a 52% increase under contract.
Mr. Hansen stated if this employee is described as a
purchasing assistant it sounds like she should be in
the salaried group.
Mr. Nelson stated this position has always been in the
Clerical /Technical Group.
Personnel
Councilman Waters asked if there were any competitive
companies who offered testing for the police and firemen.
Chief Baird stated these prices are comparable and the
vendors are selected by the Police and Board Commission.
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November 7, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Andersen stated this reminded him that the
Council had said they wished to meet with the Police
and Fire Commission.
Mr. Nelson stated he would arrange the meeting .
Mayor Verbic noted $4, 000 budgeted under Personnel /
Legal Services .
Mr. Aydt stated these are services rendered in connection
with labor relations and it was more appropriate to show
this in Personnel as opposed to showing it under Legal
Department. The contract with the employee groups will
start again next year and as yet the full ramifications
of Bill 536 are unknown.
Councilman Hansen mentioned that he thought the handling
of the workmen ' s compensation matter should be through
the personnel department as opposed to the purchasing
department handling same.
Councilman Hansen also noted that he has never seen
a position posted for help wanted.
Mr. Nelson stated in the past couple of years there
have just been openings for part-timers and notices
have been sent out to the departments for these positions.
Mr. Aydt stated only two civil service examinations had
been given this year and these lists are good for one year.
Councilman Hansen stated that there doesn ' t seem to be
a big turn over of personnel and since there are three
people in the personnel department there may be room
for some cost reductions.
Mr. Aydt stated the receptionist takes care of all the
telephone and in person informational matters and in
effect works for the entire city staff.
All of the day to day health insurance claims are handled
through the personnel assistant.
Legal Department
Mayor Verbic questioned Personal Services Recovered.
Mr . Nelson stated this is for work charged back to
other city departments .
Councilman Hansen stated there was no longer any fee
charged in connection with industrial revenue bond issues.
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November 21 , 1983
Page 4
Mr. Nelson stated that is correct.
Councilman Hansen stated he would be in favor of a word
processer for the Legal Department because all of the
lawyers sueing us have them at their disposal .
Mr. Nelson stated that further on in the budget the
Council would see that the staff is suggesting this
equipment for the Finance Department but it would also
be available to the Legal Department.
Human Relations Commission
Councilman Waters stated that under the Special Events
Expense there is an increase of $840.00 and when this
was set up last year the Council was told the revenue
would exceed the expenses .
Mr. Nelson stated this request comes from the Commission.
Councilman Waters stated he would still like to see the
staff at the Hemmens handle these events .
Mayor Verbic stated he would like to know more about the
programs .
Councilman Gilliam suggested that the Chairman of the
Commission and Walter Blalark be asked to address this
matter at a meeting.
Finance Department
Councilman Hansen noted a 14.3% increase in personal services .
Mr. Nelson stated this provides for the upgrading of the
vacant Programmer position to that of Analyst/Programmer
and the filling of that position.
Councilman Hansen stated that unless you are turning out
more data, why another body.
Mr. Nelson stated there is need for technical assistance
in planning .
Adjournment
The Council agreed to meet at 5: 30 p.m. on November 14th,
for further discussion of the budget. The meeting was
adjourned at 9: 30 p.m.
Marie Yearman, ity Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
November 14, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order
at 5:40 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hal ) .
Member present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None
Further discussion re proposed 1984 Budget.
Police Department
Councilman Hansen noted a 27% increase in photocopy cost,
Deputy Heine stated there had been a substantial increase
in the basic rental of this machine and the useage of the
machine by other departments has increased. Deputy Heine
out the $21 ,000 in revenue for copying reports .
Mr. Nelson stated these funds go into the General Fund
and the fee does not cover labor or the paper.
Mayor Verbic noted the amount set aside for civil defense.
Chief Baird stated this was just a minimal amount to start with
Fire Department
Councilman Waters asked if there was not a hazardous material
unit on the state or federal level .
Chief Van De Voorde stated these units of government will
furnish advice, but it is up to the local fire and police
officers to respond immediately and get the job done.
Councilman Waters asked if there was any current information
on larvaciding.
Chief Van De Voorde stated that Fred Carlson would have this
information and he was unable to be present tonight.
Councilman Hansen noted the request for a new van for the
Bureau of Inspection.
Chief Van De Voorde stated this was replacing an old van
which they now have.
Deputy Knust stated the van was used to haul all their
equipment and it could also be used by the Fire Department
personnel .
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November 14, 1983
Page 2
Public Works
Mayor Verbic noted a 37% increase in meeting and conference
expense.
Mr. Nelson stated the cost depends on where the conferences
are held. The person attending these meetings is still only
allowed $ 15 .00 per day maintenance.
Mayor Verbic stated this should be addressed as well as the
current gas allowance.
Review of bids for the proposed fire station.
Mike Sarro reported to the Council that things were beginning
to look more optimistic. By eliminating the basement, using
an alternate fill material and lowering the elevation of the
building, a substantial amount of money could be realized.
Mr. Sarro stated that the staff is asking permission to
continue to negotiate the construction contract.
Mayor Verbic asked what the estimated savings was to eliminate
the basement.
Mr. Sarro stated it was in the neighborhood of $ 100,000.
Mayor Verbic asked what use had been planned for the basement.
Chief Van De Voorde stated a museum for fire equipment
memorabilia, tours and space to make equipment repairs .
Verbic and Councilman Hansen stated they did not llike
to see the basement eliminated. The city is eliminating an
83 year old fire station and if this new one is built Hight
it should stand 80 or 90 years .
Mayor Verbic suggested that general revenue sharing funds
could be used on this project because this has been done
in the past.
Councilwoman Shales stated that she would prefer that the
basement be included.
Mike Sarro pointed out that the city would have to look for
$ 100,000 from some other source of revenue.
Mr. Nelson stated landscaping, fences and equipment would
probably call for another $50,000.
Mike Sarro stated he did not have the figures for the alternate
fill and the elevation changes .
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November 14, 1983
Page 3
Mayor Verbic suggested that the staff develope the costs after
determining the changes for the fill and elevation, and include
the basement.
Mr. Nelson stated he would bring this matter back after staff
has had the opportunity to obtain this information.
Petition from a group of businessmen requesting a 30 minute
parking zone on both sides of Spring Street from the Chicago'
and Northwestern Railroad tracks south to Fulton Street.
Mr. Nelson stated that he had received a letter from Dr. Charles ,
who requested that the Council delay a decision on this matter
until a meeting with the school officials and businessmen could
take place. Said meeting could be scheduled for this week.
Mr. John Schalz of John ' s Market stated that he had a petitipn
signed by all the merchants on Spring Street requesting that a
change be made in the parking arrangements along South Spring
Street. Students are parking on Spring Street while they attend
Elgin Community College and there are no parking spaces available
for customers . Mr. Schalz asked that the City not wait for ;any
meeting with ECC because they needed the help now.
Councilwoman Shales stated that there are plenty of spaces for
longer parking and she was in favor of 30 minute parking on
Spring Street.
Councilman Hansen stated he would also prefer the 30 minute
parking because these signs are presently available.
Councilwoman Shales stated the Council could make this decision
tonight and then still talk to the ECC officials .
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman Andersen,
to have staff prepare an ordinance to provide for the 30 mi ute
on both sides of South Spring Street. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Hansen, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. Abstained:
Councilman Waters . (Councilman Gilliam left the meeting at 7: 25 p.m. )
Recommendation from the Chief of Police to appoint two Reserve
Police Officers .
The Council reviewed a memorandum from Chief Baird recommending
that Elizabeth Rivers and William Linder be appointed Reserve
Police Officers .
Mr. Linder is on the current police eligibility list for appointment
as an Elgin Police Officer. He has been employed as a Community
Service Officer for about 3 years .
Mrs . Rivers has served as a Community Service Officer for the past
22 years . Prior to that assignment she served as a Parking
Control Officer for 14 years .
The additional two officers will bring our reserve strength to
22 personnel .
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November 14, 1983
Page 4
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales,
to approve the recommendation and to have staff prepare the
appropriate resolution. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen;
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Pro?osal from Tom Skiles & Associates to continue the Employee
Assistance Program.
Mr. Nelson pointed out that the revised proposal provides f6r
a fee of $5800.CO, payable monthly, instead of a fee of $6900.00.
Councilman Hansen asked that of the 21 referrals how many were
instigated by supervisors .
Mr. Skiles stated that 7 were supervisory referrals and 14
were self-referrals .
Mayor Verbic asked what the major problems were.
Mr. Skiles replied alcohol .
Councilwoman Shales stated there are several agencies who
handle this type of problem, but this program would provide
education to the supervisors , which would help make them
aware of employee problems .
Councilman Hansen stated there are already agencies here
providing these services and if the supervisory employees
are doing their job they should have a handle on this .
Mayor Verbic stated that supervisory employees are not trained
to recognize these problems and he would like to see the program
continued for a second year.
Councilman Waters stated he would consider another year, bit
he would like to see if this money could be obtained elsewhere,
and he would like a third party audit of the program, one
independent of the city staff and Tom Skiles Associates .
Councilman Hansen stated he would go along with the program
for one year with the suggestion made by Councilman Waters .
Approval of Executive Meeting Minutes
The Council agreed to review the executive session minutes
semi -annually or in January and June of each year.
Report on the final costs for the public improvements on Alfred
and Demmond.
The staff reported to the Council that this project has been
completed and the final payment has been made to the contractor.
As expected the project was completed for less than the estimated
cost. The Estimated Cost $ 186,875 .00 and the Actual Cost of
$ 141 , 533.88.
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November 14, 1983
Page 5
The staff recommended that the City Council direct the Finance
Department to adjust the original assessments to reflect the
lower costs for each property owner.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman Waters ,
to approve the staff ' s recommendation and assess the actual
costs . Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales ,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. (Councilmen Gilliam
returned to the meeting at 9: 55 p.m. )
Proposed contracts with various artists for the Performing,
Arts for Young People Spring 1984 series.
The Council reviewed a staff recommendation to book the
following programs for the Spring Young People Series :
T . Daniel in Fantasmia
Producers Association - The Wind in the Willows
Elgin Symphony Orchestra Family Concert
Danny Orleans The Magic of Spring
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen, to approve the proposed contracts . Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic.
Christmas Decorations for downtown
Mr. Nelson stated that the Greater Downtown Commission had
requested an expenditure of $2, 000 for Christmas Decorations
in the downtown area. The Commission and the City to share
this cost on a 50 - 50 basis .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam, to approve this request. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic .
Nays : None.
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales , to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting and
go into Executive Session to discuss acquisition of prope ty,
appointments to boards and commissions and litigation. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays: None. The meeting was adjourned at
10: 05 p.m.
arse Yearm , City Clerk
Committee of the Whole Meeting
November 21 , 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6: 15 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: Councilman
Schmidt.
Also present: Nelson , Yearman and members of staff.
Continued discussion re proposed 1984 Budget .
Public Property, Parks & Recreation
Mayor Verbic suggested that an explanation of the conference
and meeting expense be made for the benefit of the new Council
members .
Mr. Nelson stated these expenses cover attendance at the local
meetings and conferences which are held out of the city.
Councilman Gilliam noted the budget provided the swimming
pool operations would continue to be contracted out and he
asked if some of the complaints from this summer had been
resolved.
Mr. Nelson stated that most of the complaints dealt with the
restroom and dressing room facilities and the staff had met
with Stetson regarding these problems . The city will be
asking for additional personnel in the restrooms .
Councilman Gilliam stated that some of the complaints he had
dealt with the fee structure and the quality of the water.
Councilwoman Shales stated she had turned in a list of the
complaints she received to the staff.
Councilman Hansen suggested that because of the extremely
warm weather there may have been overloading in the pools ,
which may have caused some of the problems .
Mr. Bennett stated that he could not recall having to close
off admittance at any time due to overloading.
Councilman Hansen asked how the city stood financially on the
pool operations .
Mr. Bennett stated that the loss in 1982 was $60, 000 and this
year there was a $24, 000 loss . There was a 13 , 731 net gain
in attendance and the sale of the coupons was very successful .
Councilman Hansen noted that the unusual hot weather would
account for the gain in attendance.
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November 21 , 1983
Page 2
Mayor Verbic asked the staff if they were pleased with
Stetson ' s services .
Mr. Bennett stated that Stetson was very responsive to the
problems which arose and the staff was basically satisfied.
Councilman Hansen asked if Stetson employed any of the
employees previously hired by the City for the pool operations .
Mr. Bennet replied yes .
Mayor Verbic stated the Council should set up the fee structure
for next year and then provide a longer period of time for the
public to purchase passes .
Mayor Verbic noted that it would be nice if the City could
find some organization to finance and operate the annual
fireworks display. (The budget provides for $5, 700 for this
event) .
Mayor Verbic asked how the Valley Fox Trot event did financially
this year.
Mr. Nelson stated the revenue was $9, 014 and we spent $6, 798.
Councilman Hansen asked if the 1984 budget included any
maintenance expense for the new ball diamonds .
Mr. Bennett stated that these diamonds will not be open in
1984 and they did not anticipate any labor costs .
Councilman Hansen asked if the Parks Board had considered the
fee for ball players who live outside Elgin.
Mr. Bennett stated that presently non- residents are paying
an additional $ 10.00.
Councilman Hansen noted the increase from 33% to 50% the amount
of the Mall Coordinator' s time charged to Hemmens Auditorium
operations .
Betsy Armistead stated that due to the increase in programming
at the Hemmens this change was necessary.
Councilman Hansen asked if there was any revenue to offset any
of this expense.
Mr. Nelson replied no and pointed out that the Hemmens operations
have never been selfsupporting .
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November 21 , 1983
Page 3
Mayor Verbic asked if anything could be done to put some
playground equipment in the Zayer ' s Park. The Mayor stated
he has been getting numerous complaints from a resident
about this matter.
Mr. Bennett stated that swings and slides could be provided
for approximately $ 10,000.
Councilman Hansen stated that from the beginning he has been
in favor of neighborhood parks and he asked if there would
be any support to spending $ 15 , 000 for this park.
Mr. Bennett state he could buy modified version of the equipment
at the Ryerson Park.
Mr. Nelson pointed out that this site is earmarked as a future
park site in the Master Plan, but it is not a park at the
present time and the Council should consider the possibility
of a 72" storm sewer having to go through this site.
Mayor Verbic suggested that perhaps $5 , 000 could be spent
for some equipment just to start with.
Councilman Hansen stated he would like to make a motion that
something be put in this budget not to provide for landscaping,
but just equipment.
Mr. Nelson asked that the staff be allowed to bring back some
figures on this matter.
Councilman Hansen asked what the projected income for the
Hemmens Building was .
Betsy Armistead stated in 1983 it is $72, 000 and $86,000 is
anticipated for 1984.
Councilman Hansen stated that as we use it more the loss
should decrease.
Mr. Bennett stated that it was .
Mayor Verbic stated we must be careful not to price outselves
out of the market and if the building had a capacity of 2, 000
it might pay for itself.
Mayor Verbic asked if the North end of the building pavement
might be finished this Fall .
Mr. Nelson stated the Hemmens ' Advisory Board had opted to
wait until Spring.
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November 21 , 1983
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Boards & Commissions - Elgin Economic Development Commission
Edward Kelly, Executive Director of the Chamber of Commerce,
a division of the Elgin Economic Development Commission,
represented to the Council the economic development in Elgin
from 1977 to and including 1983 . Mr. Kelly reviewed the
increase in firms , additional jobs , more payrolls , more retail
sales and additional property taxes .
Mr. Kelly stated the need to strengthen the program for
recruitement of firms , retention of firms and in connection
therewith the following budget was adopted by the Commission:
Marketing $50,000
Assistant 30,000
Office staff 15, 000
Other expenses 5 , 000
74% of this expense would be paid by the Chamber of Commerce
and 26% by the City.
Councilman Gilliam stated it looked like the Commission was
asking for $ 13, 500 in addition to the $21 ,000 proposed in
the budget .
Mr. Nelson stated that the Central Elgin Corporation Board
has indicated their $ 10, 000 provided in the budget could be
funneled to the Economic Commission, but this amount would
not be matched by the City.
Mayor Verbic stated the Council should consider the degree
of accountability to the City from the Chamber ; the formation
and structure of the Economic Commission; and the number of
meetings by the Economic Commission should be increased.
Councilman Waters stated that one of his concerns was the
Chamber should take more leadership in meeting the challenge
to the flank to the east of Elgin.
Councilman Hansen stated he had been concerned that five
organizations are doing the same thing and if this was
going to be reduced he felt it was a step in the right
direction. The program is also committed to encourage
development for the entire city and the Commission should
be willing to show outside downtown property as well as
downtown property .
The Council should also have further discussions with the
Commission on how to improve the business climate by eliminating
costs in connection with the issuance of industrial revenue
bonds .
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November 21 , 1983
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Councilman Hansen stated he would also like to know to
whom the assistant would report to and to what committee
he was accountable.
Water Department
Councilman Hansen stated that he was suprised that with
the high technology machinery provided in the new water
treatment plant there were no labor savings reflected
in this proposed budget.
Councilman Hansen asked what funds remained in the water
bond issue.
Mr. Bolerjack stated there was $480, 000 which would be
used up in 1984, and then the plants would be operating
out of revenues .
Mayor Verbic asked if the city were only using river water
what would the anticipated electrical charges be.
Ron Zegers stated that he hoped to maintain 60% river and
40% well water and he anticipated the annual electrical
charge between $350, 000 to $400,000.
Mayor Verbic asked how many employees were at the
Riverside Plant.
Ron Zegers replied there were 4 employees .
Cemetery Department
The staff advised the Council the upkeep of the cemetery
had continued to improve, however, revenue was down because
of less lot sales and less burials .
Bob Malm suggested that the Council might want to take another
look at contracting the sale of lots to a private party.
Golf Fund
Mr. Nelson stated the city has had another good year and
$50, 000 will be transferred to repay a portion of the $305 ,000
loan from the General Fund. However, the principal and
interest payments on the golf course bonds will be paid with
the investment income from the Corporate Bond Fund.
Councilman Hansen objected to this form of accounting because
the taxpayers were not supposed to be involved in the support
or function of the golf courses , which were supposed to be
selfsupporting.
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November 21 , 1983
Page 6
Adjournment
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen to adjourn the meeting. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen,
Hansen, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Councilman Gilliam
left the meeting at 8: 15 p.m. The meeting was adjourned at
9:40 p.m.
Marie Yearman City Clerk
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
hr December 5 , 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
5:40 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None .
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff.
Continued discussion of the proposed 1984 Budget .
Transportation Department
Mayor Verbic asked how many bus shelters were now available and
did the RTA plan to add any more.
Ray Moller stated we presently have 8 shelters and there are
only two other locations where these would be desirable.
Councilwoman Shales asked if there was any possibility of
the system obtaining smaller buses.
Mr. Moller stated that the larger buses are needed during the
peak hours .
Councilwoman Shales stated that additional smaller buses could
be used during the peak hours because the public is irritated
when they see the empty large buses .
Councilman Schmidt asked if the overtime was also picked up by
the RTA.
Mr. Moller stated this was paid by the RTA.
Non-Departmental - no questions
Human Relations Commission
Mr. Nelson stated that Mr. Gus Vaughn, representing the Human
Relations Commission was present this evening to answer any
questions regarding the Commission ' s proposed cultural heritage
events .
Mr. Vaughn stated that the programs involve youngsters in school ,
providing them with exposure to the different ethnic and back-
grounds.
On February 2nd a program featuring Ella Jenkins and the Clemente
Steel Band, will be presented to the children attending 3 Elgin
Schools, and it is anticipated enough revenue will be generated
to cover all costs of the program. Field trips on school time
are also being planned.
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December 5, 1983
Page 2
Mayor Verbic wondered if the City should be involved in this
type of programming , or should it be within the jurisdiction
of the school system.
Mr. Vaughn stated the Human Relations Commission should promote
good positive relationships .
Councilwoman Shales stated he had no problem with the programs
as long as they strived to make them pay for themselves .
Councilman Waters stated that he did not disagree with the
Commission ' s intent, but he was concerned when the Commission
becomes the Contractor, when the city already has an experienced
staff to do this .
Mr. Vaughn stated that the Commission was only requesting a
budget appropriation of $ 1600.00, which they thought would be
sufficient to cover special events expense.
Mayor Verbic thanked Mr. Vaughn for his presentation.
Chamber of Commerce Visitors and Convention Bureau.
Marianne Nelson reviewed with the Council the Economic Impact
of Elgin Convention Visitor Business 1983 Recap of Major Events
Bringing in Outside Dollars, which indicated an estimated
economic impact total of $969, 500.
These figures were calculated by multiplying number of attendees
by estimated expenditure per person (e. g. whether they stay
overnight, number of meals , etc. )
For the total economic impact on the Elgin area the multiplier
of 2.8 times the primary dollar is used. This is because the
original dollar spent at the motel , restaurant , etc. , is spent
again and again. The total economic impact shown in said review
$2, 714,600.
Mrs . Nelson and David Harman, Chairman, Elgin Convention/Visitors
Bureau proposed the hiring of a consultant, Wayne C . Dunham of
Dunham/Nikolich Communications , Inc. , to increase convention
usage of Hemmens Memorial Building. The consultant would target
100 association and organizations that could meet in Elgin' s
Hemmens Building and from these 100, convince a minimum of three
to hold a convention or trade show in the facility. Mr. Harman
stated that $200, 000 could be projected from just one trade show.
The cost of hiring such a consultant is $7500.00.
Mr. Nelson stated that with this additional amount it would
bring the Conventions/Visitors fund to $28 , 000.
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December 5, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Hansen asked what the projected revenue was for
hotel /motel tax.
Mr. Bolerjack stated $90,000.
The Council indicated their approval of the $28, 000 request.
Special Revenue Fund
Spring Street Parking Deck - Mr. Bolerjack advised the Council
that all of the bond proceeds would be used up in 1984 and
the Council might want to look to an increase in parking fees
in order to prevent a shortfall .
Councilman Hansen stated that if the place is not filling up
now the market would not call for an increase and somewhere
down the road the city is going to have to find $308 ,000
yearly to pay the interest.
Councilman Hansen suggested that this matter be reviewed at the
time the Council considers the parking meter situation.
Federal Revenue Sharing Fund
Councilman Hansen stated that ongoing upkeep and improvements
should be included under each Department ' s budget and figured
into the capital improvement list.
Review of the bids , including various alternates , for the
proposed fire station and a recommendation to proceed.
The Council reviewed the following summary:
Alternate 1 Alternate 2
Original Bid $ 1 ,069,825.46 $ 1 ,069,825.46
Assured Reduction - 104, 782 .69 - 104, 782.69
Leave basement unfinished - 41 , 110. 17
Eliminate Basement - 89, 047.60
$ 923 ,932 .60 $ 675,995. 16
Brick Construction Option 7,000.00 7,000.00
Option total $ 930, 932.60 $ 882,995. 18
In addition to the construction cost, a total of $ 130, 500.00 has
been spent on soil boring, purchase of the land, and architect
fees ; and, an additional $40, 000 is needed for landscapting,
cabinets , kitchen appliances, furnishing, fencing and construction
testing. Therefore, total project costs are:
Alternate #1 Alternate #2
$ 1 , 094,432.00 $ 1 ,046,495 .00 or
or
$ 1 , 101 ,432.00 with brick option $ 1 , 053 ,495.00 with brick option
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December 5, 1983
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The Council requested a comparison of brick vs . block construction
cost. To construct the station with exterior brick and a com-
bination of brick, painted block, and paneling for the interior
walls instead of the specified decorative block would add
$7, 000 to either alternate.
Councilman Hansen indicated he wa disappointed in the plans
and estimated costs and that he did not go along with the
original score, but as long as the city was in this deep he
was not for constructing a cheap station and for the amount
of money the city is going to have to expend they should
have a building that will stand for 90 years .
Mayor Verbic stated that he agreed with Councilman Hansen.
Councilman Hansen stated that we need a quality brick structure,
with the basement and additional fill . We did not have the
mechanism within the staff and consultant to estimate the cost
of such a structure and we should find the money for this project.
Councilman Gilliam stated that the Fire Chief and staff are
satisfied with the proposed building and he was concerned
about spending an extra $ 100, 000 unnecessarily.
Councilman Waters stated he would go with the block construction,
eliminate the basement and get the additional fill .
Mayor Verbic stated he would consider keeping the basement and
leaving it unfinished.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion to go with Alternate #1 ,
with the decorated block for $923, 932 . ( said motion died for
lack of a second)
Councilman Hansen made a motion to go with Alternate #1 , with
brick construction and the additional fill . (said motion died
for lack of a second)
Councilman Gilliam made a motion to go with Alternate #2 for
$875, 995. 18. ( said motion died for lack of a second)
Councilman Hansen made a motion to go with Alternate #1 , with
brick construction and additional fill to the street grade.
Councilwoman Shales seconded said motion. Yeas : Councilmen
Hansen, Shales and Waters . Nays : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Schmidt and Mayor Verbic.
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman Shales
to amend Councilman Hansen' s motion to eliminate the brick
construction. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales ,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Hansen. Present:
Councilman Andersen.
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December 5, 1983
Page 5
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt to go with the original bid and include a finished
basement for $965,000. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Schmidt
and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen Hansen, Shales and
Waters . Present: Councilman Andersen.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam to go with Alternate 1 , with brick construction
for $923, 932. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Schmidt, Shales,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Hansen. Present:
Councilman Andersen.
Information relative to the proposed sale of Fire Station
Sites .
The Council reviewed a staff memorandum setting forth
a summary appraisal for 1083 Hiawatha, 1097 Hiawatha,
1084 Iroquois, and 1098 Iroquois ; Morningside Drive and
820 Dundee Avenue.
The staff pointed out that in order to realize some of
the values it would be necessary to consider rezoning the
property.
The Council asked the staff to consult with the people
across the street from the Congdon properties relative
to rezoning that property to R-3 , and to leave the R- 1
zoning on the Morningside property.
The staff was instructed to proceed with the sale of these
properties .
Additional information relative to the proposed traffic signals
to be installed at the intersection of Liberty and Park.
The staff advised the Council that total cost breakdown for
this improvement is as follows : Federal $ 182, 752, State
$23 ,624 and City $ 17,824. The ordinance which eliminates
parking along Liberty Street must be passed before signing
a formal agreement with IDOT, and because the project is
within a "Historical Area" a one year delay may result in
obtaining design approval .
The Council approved proceeding with the above project in
accordance with the conditions set forth in IDOT ' s letter.
Information relative to the cost and installation of play
equipment at the Zayre site.
The Council reviewed a staff recommendation that we consider
one slide and two swings for the above site. Installation
by a contractor could be between $5500.00 and $6400. If
the work was done in house the cost would be about $5, 000.
There is $3700.00 in the budget for park equipment.
The Council approved the staff ' s recommendation for equipment,
and requested that the installation be done in house.
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December 5, 1983
Page 6
Status Report on Communications Center
Mr. Nelson advised the Council the staff had met with
Sachs/Freeman last Thursday and they expect the final
specifications to be ready on December 15th, and the
bids could be opened in February.
Approval of gifts and gift certificates for board and
commission members and City employees .
The Council approved the expenditure of $7,650.00 for
employee gift certificates and fruit baskets for members
of boards and commissions .
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Waters to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting .
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None. The
meeting was adjourned at 11 : 05 p.m.
Marie Yearman, City Clerk
%•-•-•AA An Executive Session was not held on this date.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
December 12 , 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
5 : 50 p.m. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Absent: None.
Also present: Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff .
Continued discussion of proposed 1984 budget.
Illinois Municipal Retirement Section - no questions .
Motor Fuel Tax Section - no questions
Corporate Bond Fund Section.
Councilman Waters stated that he thought the golf fund would
be retired this year with the interest that was earned.
Mr. Nelson stated that over the years money has been loaned
to this fund from the general fund without any interest and
these funds are now simply going from the golf fund to the
general fund.
Councilman Andersen asked how many more years there were to
go on the Mall debt.
Mayor Verbic replied 20 years or 1995 .
Councilman Hansen asked if any legal inquiry had been made
of Elgin Community College to see if they have submitted an
application for a 10 year lease. If this has not been done
Councilman Hansen suggested that same be followed up. The
orginal agreement specifies the College would apply for the
10 year lease and if this was not approved they would then
request a one year extension.
Counsel Jentsch stated he would follow through on this .
Capital Improvement Section.
Councilman Schmidt stated that he thought $200,000 was a
realistic figure for the sale of the three fire station
sites .
Mike Sarro stated this figure could change because the city
must consider rezoning at one of the fire station sites .
Councilman Waters asked if there was any danger that the
city would not receive the advance paid on the Tyler Creek
project from the State.
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December 12 , 1983
Page 2
Mr. Nelson stated that the consultant has made application
for these funds and it is his understanding that the funds
are locked in
Councilman Hansen asked what the city could accomplish with
35 /$ 100 property tax levy over a 12 year period.
Mr. Nelson stated the South McLean Improvement ($78, 000) ,
EMHC Ball Diamonds ($74, 000) , Wing Street Improvements
($ 17,000) , and North McLean Improvements ( $8, 000) .
Mr. Nelson further stated that the staff had worked out
schedules for 30c and 35 , but the Council did not adopt
either plan, and if we followed either schedule South
Grove Avenue would have to go until 1987 .
Councilman Hansen stated that if we were realistic about
the 35 schedule we would preclude any other projects .
Mr. Bolerjack stated this does not include any public benefit.
Councilman Hansen stated that he was concerned about spending
all of our money early on one years capital improvements and
tying our hands for 1985, 86 , and 87.
Mr. Nelson stated this would be the case if the Council
adopted the 35 schedule.
Councilman Hansen stated the Council should address this
and make a final decision because it is germain to this
budget.
Parking Meter Operation Section.
Councilman Hansen stated that Spiess should still be responsible
for the $ 1300.00 yearly income from the Deck even though he
plans to move in the Spring .
Mayor Verbic stated he thought they would retain the corporate
headquarters here and there was mention of other plans for
the first floor of the store.
Councilman Hansen stated the city should find out what his
intentions are for the parking deck and the income therefrom.
Mayor Verbic stated that he and Leo would discuss this with
Mr. Spiess .
Councilman Hansen stated he recalled asking the staff to
evaluate the metered parking.
Mayor Verbic stated that most of the loss is in personnel .
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December 12, 1983
Page 3
Councilman Hansen noted that $60, 000 is taken in off the
lots and streets , but a good share of personal services
are spent in the production of that revenue. Councilman
Hansen suggested that taking the meters out would improve
the image of downtown and we would still need help to
mark the tires and enforce the parking .
Mayor Verbic stated this is food for thought, but the staff
still needs to bring in additional information.
Councilman Hansen stated that the day will come when the
city may have to declare the Spring Street Parking Facility
a public benefit.
Councilman Andersen stated that if we had proper enforcement
people would be parking in this facility.
Councilman Hansen stated he was all for taking the meters
out.
Mayor Verbic stated he would like to see an impact report
from the staff first.
Pension Fund - no questions .
Risk Management Fund - no questions .
Municipal Garage Fund
Councilman Andersen asked if there was any miscellaneous
income.
Mr. Nelson stated about $300.00.
Transportation Fund.
Ray Moller stated that the RTA has provided for a 10%
reduction in rail fares and an increase in bus fares ,
which will probably decrease the use in ridership.
The RTA has scheduled a public hearing for December 20th,
at 4: 30 p.m. , in the Kane County Government Center.
Mr. Nelson stated the Council may want to prepare something
to present at said meeting.
Mayor Verbic suggested that the staff call Aurora to see
what they are going to do and then we could take a position.
Proposal from the Elgin Jaycees to develop the Hawthorne
Hills Camp into a tacility which would provide recreation
and education programs for children and other community
activities .
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December 12, 1983
Page 4
Mr. Nelson: We have a proposal of the Elgin Jaycees , I think
you have all had the opportunity to read the material that was
sent out with your agenda.
Mayor Verbic: I congratulate the Jaycees for their interest
in the city and the youngsters , but we have had discussion
in the past about the expendability of this piece of property.
At the time it was purchased it was half city money and half
federal money and during initial discussions it was thought
that it would be nice if we could get permission to sell the
property and put it back on the tax rolls . As you know we
do have a lot of parks within the city itself, with another
400 acres being added.
Councilwoman Shales : I know there are costs involved, but
do we know what these would be.
Mayor Verbic: I don' t know the current conditions of the
buildings but I do know they need a lot of work from what
I have been told.
Roger Klemm: It is pretty laid out in the proposal as to
what exactly needs to be done. The building interior is
in fairly decent shape and structurely the building is
quite sound.
Leo Nelson: We could probably get a pretty good handle
on most of these repair costs , the difficult one is Item 5 ,
to continue to pay for an provide all utilities . We have
talked to people at the utility companies and that would be
a difficult one.
Phil Bennett: For the furnace, hot water heater and windows
approximately $4600.00.
Councilman Schmidt: The thing that bothers me with all of
the repairs they expect the city to take care of and the
cost to do that when here a few months ago we were able
to have someone come in there, an archaeologist group, that
was going to take care of all the repairs at no cost to the
city, and we turned it down.
Mayor Verbic: One of the thoughts at that time was the
possibility of selling this property to a developer. I
talked with Mr. Nelson about this and we could sell the
property but one-half of the cost would have to be used
to pay for another comparable piece of park property.
Roger Klemm: Do not consider $4600.00 a lot of money in
order to utilize the property. Other organizations have
indicated interest in camping and seeing it developed.
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December 12, 1983
Page 5
Councilman Hansen: Before the city acquired this property
another local organization owned it and they were in the
business of providing camping, but they saw fit to dispose
of the property. If they couldn ' t make a success of it
why did they abandon it.
Mr. Nelson: They bought a larger piece of property.
Mayor Verbic: Thinking about the 400 acres at the Elgin
Mental Health Center and would like to see all of this
activity under one roof. A new building could be put up
there for this type of program.
Roger Klemm: How many years are we talking about.
Mayor Verbic: Not a matter of years , matter of selling this
property and putting it back on the tax rolls and then using
the money for a new building.
The Council directed the staff to prepare a report showing
the cost of upgrading the facility, utility costs and
program costs . Said report to be ready for the December
19th meeting .
Councilman Hansen stated he would like the legal staff to
investigate the possibility of whether it is legal or not
to dispose of that property, and the conditions of the grant.
Councilman Andersen stated he would like to see these people
come back next week with a list of potential users of this
facility and the kind of income it is going to generate.
Proposal to install sanitary sewers in certain sections of Lyle
Avenue and Second Street in the Mclntosch subdivision.
Mr. Nelson: I think that most of you remember this project
started many months ago with a larger area and I think Mel
Dahl ' s memo attempts to summarize the status of the project
and the meetings that we have had with the residents in the
area, and we have tried to scale it down to make it manageable,
although apparently not everybody at this point agrees . I
don' t know what will happen if we do as we have done with
these other projects where we would go into special agreement
in lieu of a special assessment, to use that as pressure from
the other residents for those who are yet reluctant to join in
this project to get the sanitary sewers at least started out
there.
Mel Dahl : We would like to suggest a change also. Since my
memo we had a system sewer that should be on Lyle going to
the north toward Larkin Avenue. I believe there are two
existing houses and one vacant lot and we would like to
provide them with the same sewer service.
Mayor Verbic: I would like to see this approached like we
did with Alfred/Demmond. This would save them a lot of
money and be a real benefit to them in view of the failure
of their septic systems .
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December 12, 1983
Page 6
Recommendation to change the City ' s method of payment to the
State Unemployment Insurance program.
Mr. Nelson: I think that most of you are aware that State-
wide, business sector, private sector and the unions across
the State of Illinois , have arrived at an agreement as to
how to pay for all the unfunded and borrowed money from the
federal government to keep the program afloat in Illinois ,
and it has been drawn on for many years and it is now time
to pay the piper, and that includes us .
We are suggesting that we move off this contributing employer
payment plan and go to the reimbursement plan which we believe
will be cheaper. In spite of the fact that our costs did go
up in 1981 /82, when we had to lay off a number of bus drivers ,
but that would be the only reason our costs under the reim-
bursement program would go up.
Mayor Verbic: I think the reimbursement method is the best
bet. It will save you money in the long run, we are faced
with doing something , and I think this is the best approach
to take.
Recommendation to obtain an easement and construct a 10 inch
storm sewer from the east end of Cherry Street east for
approximately 180 feet to an existing manhole.
Council indicated their approval .
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt, to approve the staff ' s recommendation. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales ,
Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
The Hemmens Advisory Board ' s recommended increases in rent
and equipment charges at the Hemmens Building for 1984 and
1985.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen, to approve the recommended increases . Yeas :
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
Shales , Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
The Park and Recreation Board ' s recommended golf rates for
1984.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen, to approve the proposed golf rates . Yeas:
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Shales , Waters and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Schmidt.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
December 12, 1983
Page 7
Recommendation for added insulation for New Fire Station #1 .
The staff advised the Council that after meeting with the
architect in an effort to increase the energy efficiency
of the new Fire Station there are two alternatives for the
Council ' s consideration.
We can increase the R-Value of the outside walls from 8 . 25
to 13. 25 by changing the type of masonry block used for all
the exterior walls to a new thermal insulated block. Further,
we can increase the R-Value of the roof from 12 to 20 by
increasing the insulation thickness from 12" to 22" , to 24
by increasing the insulation to 3" .
Councilman Waters made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen, to go with Alternative #2, providing for the R-Value
of roof with 3" insulation, added cost of $7900.00, and annual
fuel saving of $660.00 or 9%. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales, Waters and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Present: Councilman Andersen.
Further discussion of proposed 1984 Budget
Planning Department
Mayor Verbic stated that he would be in favor of the purchase
of a microprinter and computer, since this equipment would be
used in conjunction with the Economic Commission to keep an
up dated list of all the businesses in the City of Elgin.
Councilman Hansen stated that he could also support this purchase.
Cable TV Franchise Fee
Mayor Verbic asked if there would be any possibility of increasing
this revenue.
Counsel Jentsch stated the city would have to attempt re-negotiating
the present 20 year agreement, which is in force until 1987 and
has an option to renew.
Medical insurance coverage for elected officials .
Councilman Schmidt asked if the present Council and future
elected officials could not be covered under the same policy
providing coverage for all city employees , and if so what
is the approximate yearly cost.
Mr. Aydt stated that this could be done and the cost would be
approximately $ 13 , 260 per year.
Councilman Andersen asked if this might not be construed as
voting ourselves a raise.
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December 12, 1983
Page 8
Mr. Nelson stated this would be adding to the existing package
now carried by the city, and it would not be increasing any
salary.
Councilman Hansen stated that if other cities are doing this
he could support it.
Added compensation for elected officials in 1985 .
Councilman Hansen stated this would not impact the present
budget and it should be discussed at a later time.
Codifying ordinances in house.
Mr. Nelson stated this could not be done until the city obtains
a word processor.
Counsel Jentsch stated this was only part of the job, there
would be the printing and placement in the code. It would
also be necessary to have some done in house and some outside
until the city' s system was completed.
Mike Sarro stated there is revenue generated through the sale
of the code books by local attorneys .
Capital Improvement Fund
The Mayor suggested that this could be reduced by $250, 00,
either by removing the CAT Program $38, 000, the Television
Sewer Program $25 , 000, Laurel Street Improvement $ 100, 00 and
the dredging of the lagoons $50,000, or let the City Manager
make the $250, 000 reduction at his discretion.
Councilman Gilliam agreed to the reduction but felt the staff
should make the choice.
Councilman Schmidt questioned the overtime which he stated ran
between $6, 000 and $7, 000 over and above salary.
Councilman Hansen stated he would like some idea of the overtime
cost.
Mr. Nelson stated $651 ,000 .
Councilman Andersen asked if it was true policemen were working
out of their homes on the accreditation program. Councilman
Andsersen also asked if it were true that two policemen and one
captain were devoting fulltime to this program.
Chief Baird said he had one man working at home who was presently
"' disabled .
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December 12, 1983
Page 9
Councilman Andersen stated that when the Chief brought this
program to the Council he told them it would not cost anything.
Councilman Hansen suggested that the Police Department bring
in a report covering the cost of labor involved in the
accreditation program.
Mayor Verbic stated he would like to see a concerted effort
to bring down the overtime 10%.
Chief Van De Voorde stated that with the new consolidated
station he expected to reduce his overtime by $75, 000 in
1985.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to reduce the overtime hours across the board by 5%.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilmen Gilliam and Waters .
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt, that the budget be cut $250,000 at the City
Manager ' s discretion. Yeas : Councilmen Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : Councilman Waters .
Present: Councilman Andersen.
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen, to adjourn the Committee of the Whole to go into
Executive Session to discuss acquisition of property, appoint-
ments to boards and commissions, litigation and personnel . Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales , Waters
and Mayor Verbic. Nays: None. The meeting was adjourned at
10:40 p.m.
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Committee of the Whole Meeting
December 19, 1983
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called to order at
6 :40 P.M. , in the Council Conference Room of City Hall .
Members present: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Absent: Councilman Waters .
Also present : Nelson, Yearman, Jentsch, and members of staff.
Continued discussion of the Jaycees ' proposal for the develop-
ment of Camp Hawthorn Hills as a day camp and facility for
other community functions .
Mr. Nelson stated that in accordance with the Council ' s direction
the staff prepared a list of immediate needs for occupancy which
amounted to $8976 .00, this would include ordinary maintenance
for the first year of operation. The annual cost of maintenance
would be approximately $3900.00.
Councilman Gilliam pointed there was no provision for manpower
to maintain or staff.
Mr. Nelson stated the memo provided by the staff included a
contingency of $ 1000.00, but there would be no staff for the
programs .
Roger Klemm representing the Jaycees stated they hoped to gain
public support by community recognition of a site that a lot
of people in Elgin don ' t even know about. The day camp is only
one phase of what they want to do. The facility could be used
as a meeting site for other organizations .
Councilwoman Shales asked Mr. Klemm if the Jaycees had looked
into the American Camping Association standards .
Mr. Klemm stated he thought they would be able to get such an
accreditation.
Councilwoman Shales pointed out that if this was not the case
the Easter Seal Foundation would not be able to use the facility.
Councilman Schmidt questioned if $ 11 , 000 was spent in 1982 to
repair the lodge.
Mr. Klemm stated this was spent over a two year period, 1981 -82.
Mayor Verbic expressed concern over the past history of vandalism
and he did not feel the proposed project would end the vandalism.
Mr. Klemm stated that if you make people aware there is activity
going on there will be no vandalism.
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December 19, 1983
Page 2
Mayor Verbic asked if Counsel Jentsch had been able to
determine whether or not the city could sell the property
without purchasing a like piece of property providing for
the same intended use.
Counsel Jentsch stated that he was in the process of
corresponding with the federal agency in Washington and he
did not think he would have this information before sometime
in January.
Councilman Schmidt asked if this proposal would be contingent
upon a year to year basis .
Councilman Gilliam stated he preferred that it be on a year
to year basis .
Councilman Gilliam stated we already have $ 122, 000 in the
site and for another $8, 000, it may become a useful site
for community use.
Councilman Gilliam stated he would make a motion to proceed
with the Jaycees proposal . Councilwoman Shales stated she
would second the motion.
Mayor Verbic stated he preferred to await further information
relative to the possibility of the city selling the property.
Councilman Hansen stated he would make a motion to table the
matter until the Corporation Counsel can advise what can be
done relative to the sale of the property. Councilman Andersen
stated he would second this motion.
Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Hansen, Schmidt and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : Councilmen Gilliam and Shales .
Councilman Hansen stated he was concerned with the following:
( 1 ) If we went into a full blown park what would be the cost
for police protection; ( 2) What would the insurance coverage
cost be, and ( 3) We already have the Lord 's Park Pavilion
available for group meetings .
Mr. Klemm stated the parking is poor at the Pavilion.
Councilman Hansen stated the Hemmen ' s Building also afforded
meeting rooms .
Counsel Jentsch stated he would have further information for
the Council in January.
Proposed amendment to the engineering agreement with Hampton,
Lenzini and Renwick, Inc. for Phase 1 engineering of South
McLean Boulevard between Bowes and Hopps Roads .
The Council reviewed a memorandum from staff indicating that
IDOT had required that the southerly limits of this project be
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December 19, 1983
Page 3
extended south to Hopp Road. Kane County has suggested a
joint agreement between the City and County and that the
County would be responsible for that portion of the work
along McLean Boulevard between Bowes Road and Hopp Road.
The staff recommended that the Council pass a resolution
authorizing Amendment No. 1 for an increase of $ 10,004.08
to the original contract amount of $34,474. 13 with Hampton,
Lenzini and Renwick. It was also recommended that the staff
prepare a joint agreement between the City and Kane County.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt, to approve the staff ' s recommendation and proceed
with this project. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to install a voltage loss detection system.
at the Riverside Plant.
The Council reviewed a letter from Black & Veatch, together
with staff recommendation for the proposed installation of
two separate voltage loss detection systems for the above
plant. It was their opinion that the addition of these
dection systems is the best method for resolving the
operational problems due to the momentary voltage surges
or losses from the Commonwealth Edison power supply system.
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales to approve the recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Memorandum from Ray Moller summarizing the RTA ' s proposed
1984 budget.
Mr. Moller pointed out that the two key issues that effect
Elgin and Kane County in the budget are the possibility of
a fare increase during peak service hours and the loss of
accumulated surplus restricted funds .
Mr. Nelson stated the hearing on the budget is scheduled
for December 20th at the Kane County Government Center. Mr.
Nelson said the last word he had from Aurora concerning
this matter was they were not going to appear at the hearing
and they did not care about the increase.
Mr. Moller stated the budget includes the fare increase and
in Elgin the impact will fall on students and senior citizens ,
or riders who are locked into the peak hours .
Mr. Moller indicated he would be attending the hearing and
from what he has learned other counties who have a surplus
are being very vocal .
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December 19, 1983
Page 4
Councilman Hansen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Schmidt, to oppose the two tier fare increase, leave the
fare rate as it presently is , and oppose the lifting of
restrictions on tax funds and removal of said funds to
other areas . Yeas: Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Recommendation to increase auto allowances and per diem
meal allowances .
Mr. Nelson stated it has been 5 years since there was any
change in mileage and meal allowances . A survey made by
Mike Sarro reflects that Elgin is among the lowest of
the area governmental units .
The recommendation provides that Elgin increase its
allowances to 20 /mile and/or $20 per day meal allowance.
Councilwoman Shales made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam, to approve the recommendation. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays : None.
Proposed change order to the contract for insulation of
the Hemmens Building.
The Council previously awarded a contract to Larry Koesche
Builders to construct a wall with l2" thick insulation for
the west wall of the Hemmens Auditorium from the stage floor
to the bottom of the steel facia.
Since the west wall is the only one where scaffolding is
required, the staff requested Koesche ' s Builders to submit
a price for extending the insulated wall to the roof line
since scaffolding is required for his contract anyway.
The staff recommendation is to approve Change Order #1 with
Koesche Builders for $ 1 ,604, which will reduce the payback
period for the entire project by one-half year.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen, to approve the staff recommendation and proceed
with this project. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam,
Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Appointment of an auditing firm for 1984.
Mr. Nelson stated that the city has used the firm of Fox &
Company for the last five years , and we currently have a
proposal from them for another three year term. Mr. Bolerjack
would prefer to stay with Fox for an additional year and then
solicit the market for a three year bid.
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Councilman Gilliam indicated he would go along with keeping
Fox for one more year, but after that he thought the city
should change companies because five years is long enough
with one company.
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Hansen, to approve the one year extension with Fox & Company,
and then obtain proposals for the following year. Yeas :
Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and
Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Proposed sale of the Police Department ' s Data General
computer.
This equipment ceased to be operated when the Police
Department stopped using their Data General computer
when they converted on- line to the City computer in the
Finance Department.
Mr. Bolerjack advised the Council an offer of $2, 000 to
purchase the computer and peripheral equipment was made
to the City of Elgin by the City of Springfield. They
will also pay all shipping costs and acquire federal approval
to transfer the equipment.
Councilman Andersen made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Gilliam, to sell the computer equipment to the City of
Springfield. Yeas : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen,
Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic. Nays : None.
Summary of Mosquito Control Program - 1983
The Council reviewed a memorandum from Fred Carlson which
outlined the 1983 mosquito control program. Mr. Carlson
remarked that larviciding ' is still the best means of control .
Councilman Gilliam asked that staff check into the contract
with Clark to see what could be terminated for the forthcoming
year.
Proposed contract with Stetson Pools
Councilman Gilliam stated that judging from the content and
number of calls he received this past season he felt the
city was getting second best.
Mayor Verbic felt that a lot of individualization is lacking
and the contract should be re-addressed.
Mr. Nelson suggested that the Council table the resolution
authorizing the contract tonight and he would bring in the
Stetson people on January 9th for further discussion of
the contract.
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Discussion of the model resolution for Taxpayers Relief Act
Admisory Referendum submitted by the Coalition for Political
Honesty.
Ed Kelley advised the Council that the Illinois State Chamber
of Commerce is opposing this proposition because the proposal
would significantly harm Illinois competitive economic position
with other industrial states and would more accurately be
characterized as the Anti -Jobs Act of 1984.
In order to place this proposition on the ballot for a local
referendum, the Coalition must gain approval from the various
local city councils or county boards , or provide signatures
on petitions requesting a local referendum.
Councilman Hansen stated he was opposed to this form of
proposal , but he would hope future councils might consider
alternatives .
Mayor Verbic felt the General Assembly should be the one
to address these situations .
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Shales , to put the referendum on the primary ballot. Yeas :
None. Nays : Councilmen Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt,
(pow Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Adjournment
Councilman Gilliam made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Andersen to adjourn the Committee of the Whole Meeting,
to go into the Council Meeting. Yeas : Councilmen
Andersen, Gilliam, Hansen, Schmidt, Shales and Mayor Verbic.
Nays: None. The meeting was adjourned at 8: 00 p.m.
Marie Yearman City Clerk
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